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12:00 AM
I like how they all strive to be in front (regardless of this privilege stuff), forgetting that in order to be in front, somebody has to be behind. In order to win, somebody has to lose. Everything people do is to set them apart from each other. And then they bitch and moan after the fact. It annoys the fuck outta me. It's life, get used to it, fight for yourself and remember that nobody gets out of it alive anyways. No matter how "in front" they are.
 
So is Haskell considered more of a walled garden
 
My mortgage costs me about 300 bottles of decent wines every month, it used to be around 400 bottles, then interest rate came down.
 
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@ElimGarak ^
 
Bahaha, I love the new/old mix cast. :D
 
12:03 AM
@ElimGarak You mean you like the girl :P
 
@VermillionAzure a what
 
@BartekBanachewicz Like, something about it not liking I/O so you're encouraged to stay within Haskell's purity limits or something like that
 
But man, a new KotOR would have so much more value than a movie. KotORs mean more to me than all the movies combined do. Movies about the Old Republic would be nice.
 
@VermillionAzure Then no.
 
I just find it strange that the IO part of the tutorial is going to come so late
 
12:06 AM
@ElimGarak Movies about the Old Republic, oh djesus I think the wait would drive me insane
 
I'd be curious to see a Mass Effect movie, as well. Nothing to do with Reapers and shit, tho. Just set in that Universe.
 
@Borgleader Is it still canon?
 
@VermillionAzure No.
@VermillionAzure Why should it come earlier if it wasn't necessary?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I dunno I'd figure that it's easier to play around with a language if you can supply input through a file
 
@VermillionAzure "you'd figure"? Why would that be easier than running code directly in a shell?
 
12:09 AM
> Much as Lucas had contradicted the EU in the making of the Prequels and The Clone Wars, this new trilogy would not tell stories of the Expanded Universe, and instead be completely original. On April 25, 2014, it was revealed that existing EU material would be republished under a new banner, Star Wars Legends.
 
what existing stuff falls under that?
 
@BartekBanachewicz like say I want to make a basic prefix stack-based parser. it would be exhausting to have to type out an example over and over again to test it
 
@melak47 "everything"?
 
@melak47 shitload of stuff really
Well, the whole EU
 
i was kinda hoping old republic wouldnt since its many thousands of years before the movies but :(
 
12:12 AM
@BartekBanachewicz lots of books I figure, but I mean stuff I know about :p
 
@melak47 Jaina, Jacen, whatever that extra-galactic outside-the-Force alien invasion arc was
 
@VermillionAzure That's not a beginner's exercise
 
@VermillionAzure ...???
 
Yuuzhan Vong
 
And nothing of value was lost.
 
12:12 AM
@BartekBanachewicz yeah that
 
@LucDanton BULLSHIT.
 
At least they kept Bane (where he's in like 1 episode in the Clone Wars)
 
apparently I don't know enough star wars to care about the extended universe :D
 
Old Republic -> not canon
if we're bioware
 
yeah who cares about Bastilla Shan or Exar Kun
eh I hate that decision so much
but w/e really who gives a flying fuck about what they call "canon"
 
12:14 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Honestly I don't like it when universes get way too big and I'm not with it from the start
 
@VermillionAzure If you want to do that, anyway, I suggest you set up a cabal test suite
 
It's like, if I wanna be a "good fan," I have to follow all of it and if there's already like 30 years worth of canon it's not gonna be fun playing catch up
 
@BartekBanachewicz Bastilla is love, Bastilla is life
(Satele too if I'm honest :P)
 
@GregorMcGregor Should have expected as much but the buttefly wings are a gem store item. Probably a limited-time sale like all the other wings before it.
 
Romance all the females at once. Nobody will know, it's a big ship.
 
12:15 AM
I can handle following Kingdom hearts; I can't handle following Marvel from the beginning and their various reboots and allusions to 4 or 5 past reboots and then the alternate universes and then the several characters that take on the same Superhero alias and then major events that screw everything up and then now we have the movies. At least the movies are simple.
 
@ElimGarak And I have a big engine IYKWIM
 
Also just a question: can you people tell the difference between a Polish, French, and Italian person by look
 
Source code for Intel's tile-based, work queue software rasterizer, 29x-51x faster than Mesa llvmpipe: https://github.com/OpenSWR/openswr-mesa
@ElimGarak of special interest to you maybe?
 
Already 65k additions and 45k deletions for my sorting library. I guess that I do redesign things when needed.
 
@LucDanton why the bunny ears T_T ffs its ruined
 
this looks pretty nice as well
makes all those inline code pieces actually readable
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah that's really nice
 
Ell
It looks terrible :P
 
you should totally send it to SOCO
 
12:22 AM
@JerryCoffin Eh. It doesn't appear to exist in italian, which means that our libraries don't have it. :(
 
Ell
You need a light theme IMHO
 
@jaggedSpire vOv
 
@ThePhD wb
 
They only have like Harry Potter or Lord of the rings in English
 
@ThePhD :D :D :D STAR WARS :D :D :D
oh and HI <3
 
12:23 AM
Star Wars?
 
did you not see the new trailer
 
At least it can look great on Norm and Charr. Not everyone plays Fashion Wars 2 the same way however.
 
@BartekBanachewicz hm, I think I'd prefer it in-line without the huge wasted space linebreaks.maybe measure size or density of code per line to decide :p
 
I did not, nor do I think I'd appreciate it right now.
 
@LucDanton are those Cicada's alts? buttifulbuttefly the lot of 'em
@ThePhD :(
 
12:24 AM
Decided to take a break from all the shitfuck that was my midterm
and work on sol, fixing various bugs and enhancing various things.
 
@Ell themes are gonna be changeable duh.
 
wat
 
@melak47 i was thinking about a button that toggles that on the message
 
yeah I guess that's easier :D
 
12:28 AM
Woah
Star Wars comes out 2 days before the official release here
On the 16th
 
I also have an idea for keyboard reply helper
 
@orlp This is creepy as fuck é____è
 
We'll i have a lot of ideas on how to improve this shitty ui frankly
They just need to be converted to code.
 
@orlp "Wow, that's really horri- wow, what? Jesus fucki- WHAT THE SHIT, LI-"
 
Who the fuck came up with that and why isn't he in a cell?
 
12:30 AM
A continual fucking trainwreck.
 
A traintwerk.
 
Why does that man have a vagina and one boob?
 
it's a woman with harsh voice
 
@Jefffrey Damn! Well, while I think it's a good book, I doubt I'd pay $30 for it.
 
Is that a Pink Floyd Park?
 
12:33 AM
@orlp what the fuck
@ThePhD Hey man
I'm sick and I might get sicker
I missed my midterm so hopefully the doctor's note will make up for it.
 
Bwahahaha! No homework today!
I'm a free boy!
 
@Nooble s/man/boy
 
@orlp /cc @Nooble
 
@Nooble Poor you. I'm a damned expensive man.
 
@JerryCoffin Are you saying that Nooble is easy?
 
12:35 AM
No, he's saying Nooble is free.
 
@JerryCoffin Oh, how do you get people to buy you then?
 
Jerry has a generous leasing plan.
 
Hey, I guess it's time for me to go to sleep :D
 
@Nooble The usual sales tactics (i.e., lots of bald-faced lies).
 
@Morwenn Good night.
 
12:36 AM
@Morwenn Night
 
@LucDanton Yeah I would have guessed so
 
@JerryCoffin So many people these days cant beard the truth
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@Nooble @Borgleader Thanks :3
 
@Borgleader I'm proud of that one.
 
12:38 AM
@JerryCoffin Sell me this wasp
 
Me in cat form.
 
I would never sell myself! I would only rent myself out once in a while :x ... like the rest of the people in the workforce >_<
 
@GregorMcGregor my dreams ;_;
 
@Nooble He's just wildly expensive
 
@LucDanton jesus
 
12:39 AM
obv. it’s like ~110g so I can afford it but as a wing gem store item it’ll be pervasive and I’ll be sick of looking at them in ~3 months
at least they’re moderate in size unlike the white and black feather wings
 
wildly expensive you say?
 
@GregorMcGregor did the kitty melt your heart
 
So today my school had an assembly.
 
@LucDanton it's perfect
 
12:41 AM
We had a LinkedIn representative as the guest speaker.
 
@GregorMcGregor Stripperific human female for reference
 
too much
also wow that weather
 
@GregorMcGregor Here I am.
 
I think a lot of it has to do with the night
 
What's going on?
 
12:43 AM
@orlp I see you know GoT as well
@Nooble You are so damn lucky
 
@Jefffrey jesssus
 
@GregorMcGregor pour pas cher
 
I was expecting something like that
 
well, raise prices
 
Treadmill fails are my favorite fails... People not understanding even the simplest laws of physics is just gold.
 
12:49 AM
is suspension the same as banning
is there any difference between the two?
 
@VermillionAzure Wha why.
Should I make a LinkedIn lol.
 
now to forget GW2 even exists for two more days
 
@Nooble You're in a good school that's in a good state.
Your chances at succeeding are much higher I think
 
Dude, Nooble is in a school in Harlem ahahah. He's packing a Glock in his underwear.
 
@LucDanton Periodic reminder that GW2 is a thing
 
12:54 AM
Hawaii is #24; NY is #9
 
I tried playing GW2... Couldn't get into it. :(
 
Network issues?
 
Tech and business opportunities are much less plentiful considering our state is probably business-phobic if you're not civil or tourism
 
But then again, I really am not suited for MMOs. Grinds and stuff are not for me.
 
@ElimGarak Yeah. That's because CCNY (the college) is there and my high school shares the campus.
Some real @nicka shit.
 
12:56 AM
@Nooble That's convenient
Can you take CC classes with dual enrollment?
 
They can take a CCTV class so @nickas don't steal his bike while he's at school. #SOappropriate
 
@VermillionAzure I think so, but only in the 3rd or 4th years.
@ElimGarak If a @nicka steals my bike, I'll have my @nickas chase after him. My @nickas are #SOreadytohelp
 
hahahahahaha
<33333333
 
@ElimGarak GW2 is not like that. Doesn’t mean you have to like it of course, but my first character still uses the same armour as he did when he first reached max level ~3 years ago.
 
1:01 AM
am I the only one that finds the whole #SOreadytohelp super cringe?
 
@LucDanton I believe my biggest problem is that I don't really have anyone to play online games with, in a mildly interesting way. You really need to find some folks to have fun with, most of the people I played with don't feel like doing anything... And then proceed to bitch & moan how the game is boring.
 
I get you, I only play online and only with friends these days.
 
I am jelly of folks who get their friends to play the same game, mine are terribly lazy. And when they do, it's cringeworthy.
 
@Nooble do it
 
1:04 AM
That’s my funny story about GW2. I’ve met people and it later turned out they play GW2. Sort of a moot point now that it’s F2P though.
 
@VermillionAzure But free time.
 
The only thing I remember from early WoW days had nothing to do with intended gameplay. We'd gather around and attack Stormwind. Get really deep into the city and massacre everyone (and then the guards got OP). You really don't gain anything game-wise, but there were friends and laughter and shits and giggles.
 
@Nooble If it's the same as my experience, usually they're not much harder than HS school classes at the basic levels
 
@ElimGarak If I'm playing video games, I'm playing them with friends.
 
@Nooble And time and money are related; you can spend 10 years paying off student debt or possibly spend less time and not sell your soul. Unless you have rich parents.
 
1:07 AM
It's not fun at all, singleplayer.
 
@Nooble Haven't you played a good RPG or something?
 
That pretty much shaped my singleplayer, storydriven, choice-illusion action/adventure RPG affinity.
 
I actually started a ciV singleplayer game last week-end to take my mind off GW2 though lol
 
@ElimGarak I remember one time, 80 of us ported into a secluded corner of thunder bluff (idk how the warlock got there but anyway), so we get there and we attack the city... it spawned so many guard NPCs (on top of the many players already present) it crashed the server, repeatedly, until we left
good times
 
@ElimGarak Funny, I usually played single and multiplayer games alone.
 
1:08 AM
Emergent gameplay is best gameplay.
 
@LucDanton CIV singleplayer :o
 
@Borgleader I can do that though
 
I can't enjoy CIV solo
 
@VermillionAzure I haven't :P
 
1:09 AM
Does anyone play CIV online? Do you guys die of boredom? I can only imagine how long a match lasts.
 
@Nooble It's too bad you never found the JRPG craze with Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts
 
@ElimGarak CIV with friends makes for nice weekends
 
@GregorMcGregor It’s not a good game for multiplayer :/ I’ve played a lot of it, but mostly co-op against AI (which is fun still).
 
I mean, a multiplayer session would take up the 48 hours of a weekend.
 
@GregorMcGregor how long is the list of house rules
 
1:11 AM
@VermillionAzure I like sandbox games.
 
@ElimGarak Exactly
 
@Nooble I find sandbox games kind of... boring honestly.
 
cIV and civ3 are great though (modulo time required)
 
Rise of Nations is a better alternative to CIV, tho. For multiplayer.
 
Well we usually play in fast mode so it's done in a few hours, a day at worst
 
1:11 AM
@Borgleader when?
 
Unless they have some sort of pseudo-progression system, sandboxes are boring because there's nothing to achieve
 
@VermillionAzure How are you enjoying life
 
@VermillionAzure Really? Why?
 
I thought playing games was a waste of time until I switched to reading novels - I read plenty in the past 2-3 years. Then I found out that it's probably also a waste of time - I forgot most if not all of them already.
 
@GregorMcGregor Not very much
 
1:13 AM
Fallout 4 is coming and I can't wait to see the splash screen. I love the feeling of waiting for such a game, almost as much as getting to play it.
 
@Nooble There's no story. No movement. Nothing to see. What are you supposed to do, amuse yourself? Sandboxes are only fun with others
 
@VermillionAzure I only play with others hehe.
 
I can only ride a minecart so many times or create some sort of "castle" before it gets boring.
 
Build a computer in Minecraft :P
 
@Nooble Well I guess you have friends
 
1:13 AM
I am curious why the Lounge doesn't get together and build some sort of a machine in Minecraft.
 
@GregorMcGregor Actually it might get a lot worse
 
@ElimGarak I made an 8-bit ALU once.
@VermillionAzure You don't? ;~;
 
@jaggedSpire You were supposed to be mesmerized by the puppy ;)
 
We're your friends Cinch.
 
@Nooble It's complicated.
 
1:14 AM
Friends are expensive to maintain. They have feelings and stuff.
 
@Nooble I suppose
 
@Borgleader it is extremely cute
 
Actually it's easier talking here because there's less stigma I think
 
@VermillionAzure What's the matter?
That is a possibility for all of us, just don't think about it too much. Focus on making today count and fuck everything.
 
@ElimGarak My risk is much higher given that I've already caught other ones and I'm not exactly responsible
@ElimGarak I might get kicked out and disowned should I tell my parents
 
Ell
1:17 AM
Caught other ones?
 
Where are you from?
 
@ElimGarak Hawaii
 
Well, getting kicked out is basically a theme related to sexuality. It's completely okay whatever you are. Especially here. We've got openly bi/gay folks here.
 
we do?
rightfold?
 
Yup.
 
1:18 AM
@ElimGarak I'm worried about the 1) medicine cost and 2) loss of all family support and 3) college costs
 
I will never understand families that impose conditions on love.
 
@ElimGarak Does Protestant ring a bell?
 
Ell
I can understand a very few conditions
 
@ElimGarak Who???? disgusting
 
@GregorMcGregor ahahah, you nooblet :P
 
Ell
1:20 AM
I would impose consent and practicality on my child :P
 
@VermillionAzure Hey, if it's what I think, you'll be fine
 
I will impose on my kid to join the Lounge at 13. So sehe can raise him.
 
@GregorMcGregor what do you think it is?
 
@VermillionAzure You don't like girls, you like C++ tutorials.
 
Ell
@elim do you Want to ruin its life? :P
 
1:21 AM
@GregorMcGregor and netflix
 
Ell
Growing up in the lounge will produce a sarcastic, cynical but highly technically competent child
 
@GregorMcGregor You absolutely have no idea.
 
All the tools it needs to survive in the real world!
 
inb4 ironistar
 
@ElimGarak I joined at 14!
 
1:22 AM
@VermillionAzure Oh I do
2 years back I was letting myself die of starvation in my room
 
Ell
And a child is a product of its parents. You just gotta hope it inherits sehe and robot, not bartek and nooble ;)
 
@GregorMcGregor Then you do know.
 
@Ell Sarcastic, eh? We wouldn’t want that now would we.
 
Parental controls: ☑ Plonk Bartek
 
@ElimGarak Parental controls: ☑ Plonk Bartek ☑ Plonk Cinch
 
1:23 AM
@Ell I have 15 years of experience as a senior developer.
 
@VermillionAzure But I didn't die! And I've made it through
 
@ElimGarak thick skin you mean
 
And I suck dick all day everyday
 
Ell
@GregorMcGregor that is good to know
I did think I was in hell for a while
 
told ya, thick skin is the most cost effect tool you could ever have
 
1:24 AM
Oh, that
 
Ah, it's a 6 month period, me thinks.
 
I'm confused.
 
thick skin comes in free, but maintenance cost is very high though
 
Ell
> mfw the lounge is hotel California
 
@Nooble Retardedness
 
Ell
1:26 AM
@Nooble I'm confused also but I think its a sensiuve topic
 
@Ell thought LRiO left ... but, how did he manage?
 
@GregorMcGregor Oh fuck sign me up.
 
BTW you may not want to talk of this in a public chatroom
 
Ell
So maybe no enquiries
 
@Ell Oh, I suppose so.
 
1:26 AM
@GregorMcGregor probably right
 
@GregorMcGregor Wellp, it is under a nick.
 
Ell
Take Gregor's advice WRT public
 
@ElimGarak Perhaps it's better if I switch
 
@Lalaland I need your help, could I please see the deleted messages from above if it's possible? Many thanks, just email it to: yizhang@telkitty.com
 
Get on IRC if you want to talk about sensitive stuff
 
1:28 AM
@GregorMcGregor which ones?
 
Ell
I regret saying so much shit in here :V
 
@Ell You can ask the mods to remove it
 
Ell
Hmm. I might do that. I'll have to trawl through months of transcript
Or years maybe
 
@VermillionAzure #loungecpp on freenode
 
@Ell we can help you :v
 
1:29 AM
@ElimGarak Because there's too much disagreement. If I were going to participate, I'd want to design a machine in something like Verilog or VHDL, so we could use real tools to simulate it, and (when/if we felt like it) flash it into a cheap FPGA development board so we could have real (if slow) hardware to play with.
 
@Ell I did that :D and they removed it
 
Ell
Oh cool
I did already contact a mod about deleting a room that I made
 
If it's really something that attains to your privacy they'll remove it
I got a room removed too
XD
 
Ell
But no response
It has been frozen for years though, I'm not sure if its accessible still
 
That's unusual, everytime I had to contact them they've been very quick to respond
 
Ell
1:31 AM
I ought to try again soon
Why am I awake?
How do I increase will power?
I need rare candy
 
@Ell Because sleeping would be a waste of time.
@Ell Time to buy an action replay.
 
Ell
Duck it's no such thing
 
@GregorMcGregor On the internet, nothing disappears entirely
 
@chmod711telkitty I disagree
It takes much longer, but it does disappear, eventually
 
1:35 AM
Many years ago I posted a few pictures then deleted them, nobody said anything. It was many years later, those pictures came back haunting me.
 
@chmod711telkitty lel, what could possibly come back to haunt you in the lounge? Chicken pics? :P
 
Nobody said anything for years does not mean it's gone
@ElimGarak I think ... maybe about 5 million+ things?
Remember, I got thick skin, so things would not work against me while I still got it on. But once I lose the protection of the thick skin, hell will break lose on me.
 
Ell
I wonder what it'd be like if the lounge lived in a giant house
Like the big brother house
But lounge edition
 
I would have the coolest room.
 
would the house be ultra tall
 
1:39 AM
And the router's throughput would be saturated.
 
and SE is a village
 
@chmod711telkitty no longer SE
Or... is it?
 
Oh I guess the company name just changed
 
SE not SO? ... or is it still SO? ... you get what I meant :p
 
1:50 AM
@chmod711telkitty I think SE is still SE but the company is SO now
 
Ell
Time to sleep
 
@Ell no
 
Ell
Oh balls
Cannot delete it on mobile
Feck it, too late now :P night everyone!
 
hey racial slurs in this room are MY job
night
 
@Ell night
 
2:07 AM
racial slur & sexist remarks are nothing compared to personalized attacks:
amongst many other things
 
wow you have your own urbandictionnary entry?
i'm jealous
 
many votes too
 
link pls
 
Yeah, I don't believe you
Do you want me to upvote or downvote? idk. What are we talking about...
 
just vote, I don't care
 
2:11 AM
> April 02, 2004
 
some online game I used to play ...
seriously speaking my presence on SO is most a re-live of my life in that game
and linkedin forums ... people contacted me years after I stopped going there ...
lol, internet never changes ...
I never change ...
I keep on running, but going no where
life ...
 
C'est la vie.
 
Fuck that, when we were young the internet was free and about sharing bootlegged software. Now its fucking Netflix and Reddit.
Remember IRC?
 
No.
 
Yes, it was awful.
 
2:22 AM
Much better then what I'm doing today
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can I come press the ban button? <3
 
Although to my disappointment, no one ever came to visit me in real life. And when I was traveling overseas, people there went in hiding, so I didn't end up meeting anyone in real life (except one in Sydney). My ultimate goal on the internet is then, dope someone to visit me (especially from another country) :p
 
@chmod711telkitty Welp maybe when I get older I can visit you
 
Given how you manage to piss everyone off on the internet, the only people I see from online wanting to visit you will probably be the ones who would want to do you harm.
 
@Mysticial hahaha :)
I hope that's not the case
 
2:48 AM
@VermillionAzure <3
 

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