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10:01 AM
@AndyProwl Andy fancies Bartek's mum?
just admit it, it's okay ...
 
Who doesn't? So much woman in a single package.
 
love by the kg
 
metric kg
 
a wowman
2
 
what a good looking couple!
 
10:12 AM
It must be love.
 
lots of love
whole 300kg altogether
 
@chmod711telkitty Ugh. Get back to your previous avatar, woman!
 
is it because of the chicken? she's lovely isn't she?
 
He's 60kg, and she's 240kg?
I feel bad. That person in the picture is a real person. #conscience
 
I prefered the cock avatars :(
 
10:14 AM
@wilx will take another profile picture when I get to it ... carrying a chicken in ones profile picture is a bit weird >_<
 
@chmod711telkitty It fits you, though!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes thanks for taking your time to read it and for the suggestions :)
 
@chmod711telkitty Hehe. But you do have the chicken, right? How is that a sad thing? :)
 
yeah, she's alive & well ..
 
Ahahahaha how did I miss this
I was there man, if I'd have seen that title I'd have been there in an instant
 
I missed it too
 
Oh, this could be nice!
 
OMG >.<
 
10:19 AM
@fredoverflow Cultural appropriation!
 
@OMGtechy I was thinking just the same
 
@AndyProwl probably a late additional. Either that, or they did it at the same time as my lightning talk which would explain why I didn't bother looking
 
@OMGtechy The title was probably "Lightning Talks".
 
@chmod711telkitty: Or maybe I just told you you are a chick... Now which one is it...
...blabering...
 
@fredoverflow ahhhh, that would explain it, must have been the other talk session then as I didn't see it at the one I was at
 
10:21 AM
@fredoverflow he sounds like he has something up his ass
 
Oooh.
 
@OMGtechy you sound british af
I love it
 
Also good morning.
 
@AlexM. I do? xD
 
10:23 AM
Do you remember the page I pasted with feelings people have but cannot describe?
What would be the name of a feeling when you feel like Pakalu Papito (the Twitter persona) is tweeting about your own life?
 
FML?
 
I feel that watching many cppcon videos greatly inhibits my English speaking capabilities
 
@OMGtechy are you british af?
 
what is af?
 
10:24 AM
those ones are good, but I watched some others and.. err..
 
@AndyProwl as fuck
 
@AndyProwl lol
@AndyProwl That fits. I say it a lot, in English even.
 
@AlexM. very af
English to be slightly more specific.
 
cool
 
10:26 AM
Jules and Fabian also did a talk before and after me respectively, and Timur did a talk on C++ in the audio industry. We all work together in the JUCEy team ;D
Talking of conferences, do you folks know about the JUCE summit?
#shamelessplug
 
> I think passing two lambdas--one for success and one for exception--to future.then would be quite unpleasant because when both lambdas need the same captured state, they have to either make a copy of the state, which may not make sense at all or more commonly, dynamically allocate state and share a pointer to it (via shared_pointer). Both approaches have performance downsides. I like .then continuation accepting future even if it does not match the functor/monad intuition. /cc @Griwes
(from YouTube comments, in case you didn't see it)
 
^ best summit ever #iamnotbias
 
@OMGtechy nope what is it ab... ok you posted the link
 
@AndyProwl I did.
 
ninja'd
 
10:27 AM
your logo looks like Vice's logo
 
hello
 
HELLO
@AlexM. Vice?
 
The case he is talking about is actually quite interesting and I don't have an answer yet.
 
Yeah, it's not a bad point
 
@OMGtechy vice.com
 
10:28 AM
@OMGtechy What is Juce, in one sentence?
 
I'll need to think about that.
 
Did you guys see the coroutines proposal?
 
@AlexM. ah yes, that'll be changing soon to something nicer. Keep an eye out. Also, if you haven't seen the Projucer talk, you really should. Change C++ code as it's running
 
Something about it kind of confused me.
 
> JUCE is a C++ framework whose cross-platform compatibility puts it at the forefront of audio software development
 
10:29 AM
@OMGtechy I'll take a look once I get home
 
@fredoverflow An extensive cross platform open source C++ library with a strong focus on audio, but certainly not limited to that (see the feature page)
@AlexM. awesome :) thanks
Just trying to get discounts off hotels for the conference now
 
void foo(const char* str) {
    while(*str) {
        yield *str++;
    }
}

int main() {
    for(auto&& c : foo("hello")) {
        std::cout << c;
    }
}
 
Google are sponsoring it, which is nice, and sending some of their best engineers to talk there too
 
how does shit like this work
is this magic
 
@Rapptz I love the obfuscation, have a raise
 
10:30 AM
@Rapptz state machine, no?
 
@Rapptz void foo doesn't seem right...
 
er
 
what @fredoverflow said
 
auto foo
 
@Rapptz yeah
ah shit lunch time
 
10:30 AM
@Rapptz If it is, C++ stole the magic from C#.
 
tomorrow regular lunch!
 
range-based for requires begin and end on the object
which is where the confusion comes from btw
 
I don't believe that works ... it can't ... but .... I'm going to have to try it
 
@OMGtechy It's a proposal dude.
 
ahhh right
 
10:31 AM
VS2015 has it implemented.
 
@Rapptz It's a state machine
The object has .begin and .end on it
 
guessing std::begin and std::end has a specialisation for void or something?
OH, coroutines
 
do you have a link
to the paper
I just saw bits of a CppCon talk
 
I also missed this talk, dang
There were so many good ones
 
haha, "dang" looks very similar to "clang"!
 
xD it's the clang equivalentof damn it
Good old Jon Skeet
 
async/await uses the same kind of transformation
 
god clang it!
 
xD
I loved having yield in Python, so if it gets into C++ (which it looks like it will) I will be a happy guy
 
there's yield and await
 
10:33 AM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Set phasers to pun [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
 
don't think there's async
the coroutines proposal seems neato
 
@fredoverflow you're so punny
 
@Rapptz async is just an over-explicit tag anyway.
 
ye
 
10:35 AM
yield is rather easy to use without fully understanding coroutines. I guess that the rest will cause me some headaches in the future though.
 
it's not too difficult
 
@AlexM. FYI, if you go to the JUCE summit, most workplaces I know of will pay for it because they can expense it. That's the case in England anyway, don't know what it's like over there.
 
I think this is the current version
unless there's v5
 
@OMGtechy I'm not that much into C++ to go to confs anyway
 
What I find fun is that the standard library never returns containers by design (if I'm not mistaken), and std::generator will be an ideal candidate for "we want to return containers, but lazy ones".
 
10:36 AM
@Rapptz Got a question for you. What's the long term effect of human living on mars: e.g. about 0.6% of Earth's mean sea level pressure of 101.3 kilopascals.
 
@Morwenn Are lazy sequences considered containers?
 
@Morwenn There's a proposal out there (I forgot which) that returns std::vector<T>.
 
@AlexM. but ... free holiday! :D
 
@fredoverflow Not really, but I'm bad at formulating stuff :(
@Rapptz The Cairo one?
 
It's one of those TSes.
No
Screw graphics API
 
10:38 AM
Probably the networking one then.
 
found it
Japan coming in with the sensible recommendations.
 
Oh yeah, for the vector of futures :o
 
#vectorofthefuture
 
@Griwes Treat future as the FutureT (Error e) a monad stack? Or ErrorT Future e a. Whichever is right. Not interested enough right now to figure out which is which.
 
10:43 AM
 
I kinda wonder though
If yield gets added as a keyword
 
god SVN is so bad
 
what happens to std::this_thread::yield?
 
I have no idea how people using it might be against git
 
Can't add yield as a keyword.
Too common.
 
10:44 AM
@Rapptz There's a proposal to allow to use good keywords and have still them as valid identifiers depending on the context.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The point from the comment still stands, though.
 
inb4 _Yield
 
They should i as a keyword
 
inb4 __Yield
 
to fuck all of the people writing manual loops
 
10:44 AM
@Morwenn ew
 
That's triply reserved.
 
@Griwes Oh, you're right.
 
@GregorMcGregor Yours is only doubly reserved in global scope.
 
10:44 AM
_____________________________Yield
 
@BartekBanachewicz Please no, C already has I as a macro...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I started using EitherT recenly as well /cc @Griwes.
 
That's still just triply reserved.
 
why not do return yield x
 
_, _T, __
 
10:45 AM
@Morwenn oh god please no, C++ doesn't need any more craziness. Have you got a link for this?
 
@Griwes let me send you howtohumour.pdf
 
oh wait
you gave a link nvm
 
@Rapptz C# has yield return and yield break.
 
@OMGtechy You're 10 messages too late :p
 
in general don't write ErrorT
 
10:45 AM
@GregorMcGregor Your version of that seems to be misaligned with reality.
 
prefer TMCs to concrete transformers @Griwes
 
@Morwenn RACE CONDITION
 
You know what else is misaligned with reality?
 
Your mother
 
@OMGtechy That's racist :(
 
10:46 AM
std::this_thread::yield was a mistake
 
@Morwenn It is. What you gunna do about it?
 
ron_paul.png
 
#iamsohard
 
@Rapptz IIRC somebody proposed coreturn instead of yield.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sure, but not relevant. Haskell notation was used merely as a shortcut to describe a generic structure, not to mean the concrete Haskell thingy.
 
10:47 AM
@OMGtechy Nothing, I have already problems to deal with.
 
ITT best way to mingle in the lounge is to make sure everyone awares that you spoke at cppcon
 
@Morwenn time to remove them from the committee.
 
Apparently yield is too frequently used in finance industry.
return was omitted from that discussion.
:D
 
@Morwenn How about static return?
 
@Rapptz Well, it wasn't the worst keyword ever. You can even pronounce it.
 
10:48 AM
the obfuscated C++ content will love this
 
Also it's not a problem, just make it contextual somehow!
 
return 4; // actually returns 97
 
CppCon debriefing: what awesome piece of code can possibly fascinate seven expert C++ programmers this much? #cppcon http://t.co/FTIYk4foWh
 
@OMGtechy I love 97! It's the largest prime number smaller than 100.
 
@Griwes not clickbaity enough
 
10:49 AM
@OMGtechy @AndyProwl
 
@fredoverflow good to know! I just randomly picked that ... it must be evidence for a mind controlling master race
 
Yay, I found better sorting networks for size 17 to 22 than the ones generated by Batcher's odd-even sort ^_^
 
@Griwes @AndyProwl make the thumbnail sexually suggestive and you've nailed it
 
@Morwenn You can have my Turing award.
 
@fredoverflow I found them on the internet.
 
10:51 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh ok
 
in case you missed it: 1979 1987
1993 1997 1999 2003 2011 2017 2027 2029 are all prime numbers
 
1987 best birth year.
 
I was born in 1993
 
@chmod711telkitty 2003, 2011, 2017 you say? Those are all C++ standards...
 
'93 master race
 
10:53 AM
2000 best year.
 
Looking forward to C++27 :-D
 
@fredoverflow now you know why right?
 
@fredoverflow Modules!
 
@Nooble lol
 
@fredoverflow does this mean they'll start getting further and further apart as primes become sparser?
 
10:54 AM
I sometimes feel like I'm the only one around who doesn't like massages.
 
@OMGtechy I'd be totally fine with C++17 being the last C++ standard. The language is big enough as it stands.
 
@Morwenn I can understand it tbh, although I do like them
having a stranger feeling you up can be ... strange
@fredoverflow I'd be happy if they spent the next few standards just removing things, but alas I can't see it happening
 
@OMGtechy Could be... I hope it doesn't mean there's going to be an infinite number of C++ standards ;)
 
@OMGtechy It's not even about stangers. I don't like having my shoulders rubbed, whoever does it.
 
aha and infinite complexity too
@Morwenn still understandable
 
10:55 AM
@fredoverflow yeah they should start removing things alright
starting with the whole C standard library
 
nobody will notice
 
nobody sane will notice
 
@BartekBanachewicz The whole C standard library... so qsort and bsearch basically? ;)
 
@Griwes insane folks still use old compilers so they wouldn't notice either
 
10:56 AM
@fredoverflow Your mom is bigger and she still stands.
 
@fredoverflow and all str*
 
strstr
 
@OMGtechy Every time I teach strchr, my students think there's something wrong with my throat.
 
literally lol'd xD
 
Too bad the proposal to make assert a proper keyword didn't pass.
 
10:57 AM
strnstr
 
removes macros
nobody will notice
 
change the softlink to the compiler, nobody will notice
 
@Morwenn Contracts?
 
Didn't they remove or at least discourage contracts in C#? It'd be interesting to see the rationale before we add it to C++
 
C# has contracts?
 
10:59 AM
@chmod711telkitty alias gcc clang
@fredoverflow yes
 
I don't think C# ever had contracts
 

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