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10:00 PM
@ElimGarak Like, an actual actual conversation? With complete, meaningful sentences and without nervous grinning?
 
Yes... And no "Ermagherd, have you heard what <insert_subject_here> did?"
 
@Ell My best college friend always brought this "joke" in a super-gay voice: "Oh, wo ist mein Handy"
(Handy = mobile in German)
 
Does anyone here have first-hand experience with C++ Rocks!?
 
@LeviMorrison No, we were born with knowledge of C++ imprinted on us, up until C++20.
 
Hahahahaha
> It covers template changes, the new class features including the changes related to constructors and inheritance, and the changes made for Unicode support and defining custom suffixes in C++11.
Because Unicode support is so substantial in C++11
 
10:04 PM
Intense coverage of C++, Weasel News.
 
Essentially I'm looking for a book for reference or teaching material. I'm going to be teaching roughly 30 people part of C++ next semester.
It's not a "Learn C++ class"; rather they just happen to use C++ for some of it.
 
I just watched "Human Centipede 2"
 
google definitive guide c++ books stackoverflow. Investigate reference section.
 
terrible waste of time
 
@ElimGarak Thank you.
 
10:07 PM
> Please edit the accepted answer to provide quality books and an approximate skill level — preferably after discussing your addition in the C++ chat room. (The regulars might mercilessly undo your work if they disagree with a recommendation.)
Lounge, lounge never changes.
 
@LeviMorrison haha, I like the cover
 
> The team license allows you to share the book with up to 100 people for just $345.
Teach the entire team about the rich Unicode changes introduced in C++11 for only $345.
 
I've considered watching The Human Centipede 3
 
@ElimGarak whoa.
 
10:11 PM
but I guess it would be an even bigger waste of time
 
unicode is serious business, eh?
 
Why is it that all the implementations of Batcher's odd-even mergesort I find work only with powers of 2?
 
Morwenn, your obsession with sorting is starting to become unhealthy <3
 
@melak47 University Honour Code (Unicode) is serious business, yes!
 
@fredoverflow wouldn't that be unihcode? :p
 
10:13 PM
I can already imagine 80% of the team just skimming through the book saying "I know this already", without knowing it already (any book, not just that)
 
> No more 'MythBusters'; show will say goodbye in 2016
 
@ElimGarak I will solve the problem of sorting stuff :D
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
:/
 
@ElimGarak is this a digital book? or is it an actual printed book, and the license allows you to share it...sequentially
 
I was back into sorting networks. It seems that I still don't use all of the best-known ones but I'm getting closer to that.
 
Nothing like localized developer conferences. Totally makes sense.
 
> Fans can also celebrate with the Science Channel (Discovery Channel's sister channel) as it airs every episode of "MythBusters," starting on December 23 and ending on January 3. The Holiday Mega Marathon will air the episodes in chronological order, starting with "Jet-Assisted Chevy" and ending with "Star Wars: Revenge of the Myth."
@fredoverflow @AndyProwl @Jefffrey
 
@ElimGarak Wasn't there a proposal to have localized stack overflow forks a couple of years ago?
 
@fredoverflow someone once even used them
 
@fredoverflow Do wanna be Italians count?
 
10:16 PM
@AndyProwl Hey, pizzaman <3
 
Just because you eat Pizza and play Super Mario Bros. does not make you Italian.
 
look
SO in Portuguese has 5k questions in JS
4607 to be exact
really not far from the english one having 966050 questions
 
user406009
Isn't that better? I thought less JS was a good thing.
 
Those localized sites are such a dumb pile of wank
 
@BartekBanachewicz who wouldn't want to use stapelüberlauf.de
 
10:18 PM
inb4 someone defending them and the right for people to use their language
and how it empowers developers who don't know english
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz do you think everyone should standardize on one language?
 
user406009
Kill off the other languages.
 
@Lalaland last time I said that I was called mentally ill and a nazi I think.
but I mean look at that:
> Adicione a seguinte permissão no seu AndroidManifest.xml:

<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.READ_PHONE_STATE"/>
Para recuperar o IMEI do dispositivo:

TelephonyManager tm = (TelephonyManager) getSystemService(Context.TELEPHONY_SERVICE);
String imei = tm.getDeviceId();
 
@Lalaland What? Kill off Haskell?
 
Is it just me
 
user406009
10:19 PM
Haskell isn't a human language.
 
or is the code in english
 
user406009
I think we should have only one human language.
 
What the fuck does it buy them to translate half of the answer if the person still doesn't understand the other half, namely code.
 
user406009
Think of the communication benefits!
 
Do they write "getSystemService" like I would write "paraRecuperar(dispositivo)" not knowing what the fuck I'm writing?
Is that what they're proposing as a solution?
 
10:21 PM
Well, killing off Chinese and Korean would be a good start, (esp. written).
 
Having one language is better for basic communication but sucks from a cultural point of view. Different languages are better for expressing different things.
 
user406009
All human languages are equally powerful.
 
produtos.forEach(function(produto) {
...
 
@BartekBanachewicz How do I empower developers who don't know JavaScript though?
 
Guys, I am trying to pop the question, but the conversation thread is hilarious at the moment and I can't.
 
10:23 PM
@fredoverflow just power 'em
 
@Lalaland Equally powerful at expressing different things.
 
@Morwenn Yes. Chinese and Korean are good for 'HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO HANDLE ALL THESE FUCKING CHARACTERS IN MY APPS?'
 
user406009
I don't buy the culture argument.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz why? :V
 
@fredoverflow JS is insultingly dumb to learn
@Ell how about you keep reading
 
10:24 PM
@ElimGarak I'm sorry, I cannot at the present time.
 
Also, studies show that how a language is structured and how people behave relate. It's quite interesting.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak you think there is value in having a bajillion languages which make it more difficult for people to communicate?
 
JavaScript people relate to farm animals.
 
@Morwenn That would explain why the Lounge is full of nice folks!
 
Zoo animals would be too interesting.
 
10:26 PM
@fredoverflow Quick to change your mind :p
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I don't like the tone o'your speakin', boi
 
@Morwenn Well, it would have been easy to defend assholes; how else are we supposed to get rid of all that pizza?
 
@MartinJames Not my problem. I hardly ever eat pizza.
 
@Morwenn Well, yes, but that's because you live 1200km from the nearest takeaway.
 
@MartinJames More like < 1km.
 
10:29 PM
@Lalaland Most people think we should standardize on one (human) language. They just disagree (vehemently) on which language that would be.
 
@JerryCoffin It should be English obviously.
 
user406009
No, English sucks.
 
Ta-daa! It already fell apart.
Took 2 messages.
 
@Lalaland So does JavaScript, but it's popular.
 
@JerryCoffin Esperanto ftw ^lol^
 
10:31 PM
English wins. Others can suck it.
 
@VermillionAzure Is that shit still useful for anything?
 
I think there should be both a worldwide simplified communication language and specific regional languages as we already have them.
 
@LeviMorrison If you took a vote worldwide, it seems pretty fair to guess that Chinese would be the winner.
 
@MartinJames idk
 
user406009
The main issue for English is that the translation from pronunciation to spelling is nontrivial.
 
10:31 PM
I dunno
 
English is a very complex langauge and very technical
 
I think that Chinese has a big first-language base but not as big a second-language base as English.
 
But all attempts at having simplified communication langauges were not really successful...
 
there's a large number of people in ex-English colonies who speak English as a second or first language and quite a few professions like air traffic control which are conducted basically exclusively in English.
 
@Lalaland You can clearly say it: it's totally fucked up.
 
10:32 PM
@Morwenn We can't get computers to talk to each other most of the time, and they only say 0/1.
 
Esperanto was a good idea.
 
English is really the best choice and it will eventually win. Chinese doesn't have a chance as it is bloated, overly verbose and legacy, in a really bad way.
 
@MartinJames "Still" would imply that it once was useful for something. I suppose from some viewpoint, it must have been good for something at some time, but realistically, nearly any other human language would be more useful.
 
@ElimGarak Anything except fucking Chinese, 'cos character set.
 
@Morwenn balogna, tsunami, and supercalifragilisticexpialidocious all exist in the same language
@ElimGarak Chinese is also the most popular language on the planet by population right?...
 
10:33 PM
@VermillionAzure The latter should have been German.
 
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Q: When setting variable to double AND adding a double to an integer, why does an integer value come out?

AmbrosiosI'm trying to make a code that returns factorials of integers as doubles. However, every time I use the code, it does not return doubles. It always returns integers. I would like for the code to return the factorial trailed by zeroes. Ex. 5! = 120.0000, not just 120. #include <iostream> using ...

rofl why would you return a factorial from main?
 
@MartinJames blitzkreig?
 
@VermillionAzure Don't mention the war..
 
@VermillionAzure I think the deciding factor should be the amount of nations (people within nations) that speak the proposed universal language. Not a nation endorsing its own on the grounds of them fucking like rabbits.
 
@ElimGarak Population is a suitable benchmark but I agree.
 
10:35 PM
 
we should clearly endorse them based on the number of other nations they conquered in the relatively recent past.
 
However English is already standardized across the world officially more than any other language
French and Arabic are also up there.
 
@Ell You calling me "boi" is somewhat funny ;)
 
Yay. moved my computer to a more... err... sensible place.
 
@JerryCoffin Are you sure WRT the first part? I know a lot of people who think language diversity is a good thing.
 
10:38 PM
Only now I have no way of sitting comfortably in front of it and... I think that might be an... inconvenience.
 
Does your mother adhere to the Single Responsibility Principle? — DeadMG 8 secs ago
 
@Griwes How exactly do you define 'sensible' today?
 
I have too much rep.
 
lol terrible
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz it also depends on how you so the language killing phase.
 
10:39 PM
@Puppy Programmers.jpg
 
@MartinJames "Not on the only actual table in a flat" seems to be capturing the essence of it.
 
user406009
Some language killing methods are just plain evil.
 
@BartekBanachewicz the question or my comment?
 
fuck I wrote an answer on Brogamers
 
Alright... I have to wake up in 5ish hours. Hmm.
 
10:41 PM
I'm getting too used to mindless answering of dumb questions for some reason.
@Puppy Both.
 
user406009
@Griwes step one: turn off the computer
 
normally I don't make such comments as actual comments but I'm feeling tired right now
 
I should probably do this "schedule doing room cleaning stuff at some other time than 9:30PM" thing.
 
@Puppy I totally feel you there.
 
Guys, she said yes.
7
 
10:41 PM
@Lalaland I don't turn my computer off for the night, so
 
who said yes to what
DID JENNY CONSENT
 
@BartekBanachewicz The question, aparrently..
 
HAS JENNY BEEN DRINKING
ARE YOU HOOKING UP
 
(I loved the poster)
 
10:42 PM
terrible quality but hey
 
@BartekBanachewicz we can tell
 
where are the upvotes
whis is brogrammers so slow
 
@BartekBanachewicz Honestly, no. There probably are some good points to language diversity. Nonetheless, even among those who'd like one standardized language, there's a lot of disagreement over what that language should be (with most simply favoring whatever language they're most comfortable using).
 
@ElimGarak Proud of yeh, littel one
 
@ElimGarak :D Now enrich her with your graphics knowledge. Or your graphic knowledge ;)
 
10:43 PM
Frankly, I don't care what that'd be, but I agree there should be one.
 
@JerryCoffin tbh each language sort of has a flavor
 
I can learn one more language
won't kill me
 
That's like saying everyone should eat one type of starch so that it can be mass-produced reliably
 
Newspeak
 
even chinese is easier to learn than 10 others and possibly chinese again
 
10:44 PM
@AnalPhabet Did you read it?
 
@VermillionAzure everyone read it
 
@BartekBanachewicz Have fun with tones
 
@VermillionAzure Read what? 1984?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I actually never finished it
 
suck.png cinch.png
 
10:44 PM
s00ck.gif
 
user406009
The US should also switch to metric.
 
@TonyTheLion <3<3<3
 
@Lalaland already "impossible" due to infrastructure or losing millions
 
@Lalaland a.k.a. to actual units
 
Also can anyone tell me why does programmers even have language tags
if it's not about programming
 
10:46 PM
@BartekBanachewicz ...but almost any 10 others are probably easier than Chinese.
 
I thought it's about everything programmers do EXCEPT programming
 
user406009
The fact that the US can't even achieve that easy goal indicates that universal language proposals would be hard.
 
@JerryCoffin I've heard Polish is harder than Chinese.
 
@BartekBanachewicz "I cum from Java background"
@BartekBanachewicz But you're native, so you can't really tell
 
:26427056 do you mean languages or PLs
@AnalPhabet actually it was an opinion from someone from China so
 
10:47 PM
@Lalaland US is stubborn
 
@Puppy 3 ups on your comment
 
@Lalaland Already has (sort of). Officially, the base units in the US have been metric for years. All (or at least nearly all) the inches, miles, pounds, gallons, etc., are defined in terms of metric units.
 
also LMAO that question is tagged
 
user406009
I know. Perhaps I should escape to Canada. I hear they actually have someone competent in office now.
 
@BartekBanachewicz what question
 
10:48 PM
I got owned by Bendak like 16 times now. Maybe I should first ask for the bounty on him from Zax.
 
also who needs tag hierarchies right
 
the irony is literally seeping from this
 
user406009
Does anyone actually know how difficult it is to emigrate from the US to Canada?
 
I dunno, I don't think it's that hard
 
Ell
10:52 PM
why do mums on facebook never use punctuation?
 
@Lalaland I suspect easier than the other way around
 
also WD bought Sandisk
dunno if that's good news, never liked WD hardware for some reason
 
Ell
Wat
wow
that seems like a big move
I like WD
 
btw @melak47 rlemon from the JS chat has his own extension on chrome store
 
Ell
I always buy WD
 
10:54 PM
He gave me some tips on how to do highlighting and stuff
 
@BartekBanachewicz to do what
 
@BartekBanachewicz I always buy WD, none of them have failed me.
 
@melak47 change CSS to dark, do code coloring, make text editor reasonable, onebox gifv and webm
 
The last HDD to fail me was the one in my laptop and that was a Seagate IIRC
 
Don't fall asleep now
that would be a waste of time
 
10:55 PM
so p much what I wanted
 
@BartekBanachewicz Depends. At least from what I've read, Polish probably is the hardest to speak--there seems to be wide agreement that correct pronunciation is exceedingly difficult. Chinese is apparently easier to speak; the written form is (or forms are) much harder to deal with though.
 
@BartekBanachewicz "fork" it
 
@melak47 meh I like my own hacks better :D
But I can certainly steal some ideas I guess
the point is
would anyone here really use it
 
yeah an extension from the JS room...can't put the lounge stamp of a pproval on that
 
otherwise I'll just do Haskell coloring and call it a day
@melak47 I've been one leg there for the past year.
 
10:57 PM
D:
 
it's still too much C++ here for my taste
OTOH it's changing for the better
especially since Haskell room froze
 
Just unfreeze it?
 
user406009
Why did they do that?
 
It timeouted :/
Actually
 
@Lalaland No side-effects for a month probably ;)
 
10:58 PM
 
@fredoverflow actually, yes, I'm gonna do that
 
lol
 
@TonyTheLion I also talk a lot more when I'm wearing a kilt.
 

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