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4:00 PM
@thecoshman Mention Bitcoin!
 
Ell
@Puppy Microsoft Visual Studio Professional 2013. Version 12.0.30110.00 Update 1
 
so far it's mostly "who can link to an site first"
 
Ell
@thecoshman why is that a bad thing? :P
 
@Ell Then what new version are you referring to?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's been covered already
 
Ell
4:00 PM
@Puppy a CTP or something
 
don't waste your time
just stick with 2013 until 2015 RTM
 
Ell
Okay
I'll do that
 
it's not like there are any really important C++11 features implemented there.
 
Variadics?
 
Ell
Visual studio minus CTP doesn't have variadics?
I might just get tdm gcc just in case
 
4:02 PM
2013 has variadics without CTP
but they're not terribly important really
 
@Ell why is gold standard a bad thing?
 
@Puppy If you like stuff that doesn't work.
 
Ell
@thecoshman No, why is people discussing it a bad thing
 
@Puppy What about generating move ctors?
That's so freaking annoying.
 
@Ell it's not, but I'm tired of being in it.
 
4:04 PM
gold standards?
 
They printed the C++ standard in gold ink.
 
aw nice
I mean
 
user1804599
lol
 
WTF?
 
4:05 PM
@Jefffrey It's a monetary system based on a fixed supply of gold.
 
@Jefffrey no, the discussion.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that makes sense
 
@Jefffrey it's not used much any more, if at all
 
so what's the problem?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's somewhat annoying.
 
4:09 PM
If you only somewhat write C++ every day, yes.
 
@Jefffrey ... I'm tired of hearing their back and forth based on links to web pages.
 
It's especially annoying if you're working with GCC or clang as well.
 
@thecoshman lol, I have no idea what are the pros or cons of that "method", so I wouldn't know
but it's probably safe to assume that they are both wrong considering that none of them know anything about economics AFAIK
like, I guess that states need to perform controlled inflations every once in a while
how would that even work with such a "fixed" system?
 
@Jefffrey Nice hat
 
Ell
@Jefffrey I don't think this is a safe assumption
 
4:14 PM
yours too
 
@Jefffrey No one uses a gold standard today.
 
It makes me feel like Vlad from Moscow
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what's the reason?
 
@Jefffrey HEY, JERRY'S WEARING THE SAME HAT
 
hi guys
did someone say Vlad from Moscow?
 
4:17 PM
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Q: Can i have a Vector of pointers in a Object *** p?

Diogo NunesSo here's my question. I have a multidimessional array in wich i'm trying to put some objects deriven from class Block. I have this multidimessional array declared the following way: Block ***arrTerrain; where the first '' is for the lines, the second '' is for the collumns and the third is fo...

 
if god can do anything, can he kill him/herself?
 
ewww triple star pointers
 
@TonyTheLion "self documenting code"
> where the first * is for the lines, the second * is for the collumns and the third * is for the pointer to object inside the position
 
> I have this multidimessional array declared the following way:
Block ***arrTerrain;
 
Please kill it with fire
 
user1804599
4:18 PM
Congratulations! You're a three-star programmer! — rightføld 5 secs ago
 
@Jefffrey They found the alternatives better :P
 
I would love to try this: hashcat.net/oclhashcat to see how good it really is
 
@Jefffrey I think the greatest factor might be its inflexibility, like you said.
 
I would love to know what's in the head of a masochist.
Like, how would that actually work.
 
user1804599
 
4:21 PM
If you're suggesting the use of a vector, why not use a vector from the start to represent this multidimensional array? Then again, you could become a four-star programmer and do Block****, but that's absurd. — Mohammad Ali Baydoun 14 secs ago
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the argument I'm seeing here is that the rigidity of gold stardust is a good thing... "I don't want my money to lose value just because banks can make more money"
 
Ell
I think the gold standard is a good idea
I don't like that the state can devalue my currency
 
then your probably don't understand economics well enough...
 
@thecoshman But somehow it's ok for it to lose value because they mined a lot.
 
We desperately need a matrix_view of some sort
I'm tired of std::vector<std::vector<T>>
 
user1804599
4:22 PM
Make it.
 
Ell
@Jefffrey boost::multi_array
 
I mean, in the standard
 
@Ell It's not your currency.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes well that's even worse!
 
user1804599
4:23 PM
Propose it.
 
Marry it.
 
It was never proposed before?
I'm too lazy to actually do it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "but gold is a limited resource, that's why it's valuable"
 
sbi
> Minerva was the Roman goddess of wisdom, courage, inspiration, civilization, law and justice, strategic warfare, mathematics, strength, strategy, the arts, crafts, and… you know what? They should have just named her “Miscellaneous.” – OhGodMyWifeIsGerman
 
lol
 
user1804599
4:24 PM
@thecoshman by that logic your mom's belly fat lacks any value whatsoever.
 
@rightføld yes, well
 
@thecoshman It's valuable because it's scarce.
 
wait for interstellar planets
 
Yes, it is limited, but there is a lot around to keep mining.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "exactly"
 
4:25 PM
when we'll find a gold planet
and humanity economics crashes
 
any way, home time :D
 
@thecoshman Not exactly. It's not the same as being limited.
Many resources on Earth are limited.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Which ones aren't?
Oh, wait. Stupidity. Forgot about that.
Is that an resource?
 
@sbi Some are virtually inexhaustible. Sunlight for example.
You should know.
:P
 
@thecoshman That's a pathetic selfish short-sighted argument. QE is a valid monetary tool and essential in some circumstances.
 
sbi
4:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's limited. I mean, you don't live in Portugal anymore. Just look outside! You should know.
 
Ell
@Puppy nope nope nope
QE is evil
Byeeeee
 
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Q: How could i avoid singletons in this case?

user1590636using Dart in the client part of a web app where i have an application manager that contains a List of application instances and references to services that are used by each application as in the following diagram as you can see the application manager is a singleton, so are the services that ...

oh boy
 
aaaahhhhhhhhhhh singleton managers
 
lol
 
4:29 PM
the way to hell is paved with singleton managers
7
 
and raw pointers
 
Or, in this case, singelton managers :)
 
siegelton
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Klingelton Manager.
2
 
Oh - it must be Christmastime: the wine bottle skip in the village is full-to-overflowing a full two days early.
Mebbe hell itself is a singleton.
 
4:37 PM
do you guys remember studying hegel?
 
I've heard of Hegel, not studied him
 
Dunno about Portugal/Berlin, but here in the UK it's unseasonably warm. Just been out with Bailey - it's 13C.
 
sbi
@Jefffrey I have never seen him studying.
 
sbi
@MartinJames It was the same here a couple days ago. Not totally unseasonable (it usually gets cold here in Jan/Feb), but not very common, either.
 
4:39 PM
seriously
you guys haven't studied Hegel and all those philosophers at "high school"?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That DeVille is 103 years old too.
 
Nietzsche
 
sbi
Well, I guess it's time to leave for the pub now.
See you!
 
Fuck philosophers.
 
Freud
 
4:40 PM
@sbi Viel Spaß.
 
Touch this
 
Ell
@MartinJames are you kidding!? :P
 
'Philosophy': something to ponder over while the bars are shut.
 
@TonyTheLion oh boy that one
 
Ell
4:41 PM
It's super windy and cold
 
> obviously, (...), it was the wrong music that aired
No kidding.
 
also Schopenhauer
 
Ell
must be that artic storm or whatever it was
 
Schopenhauer was nice
 
@Ell No! It's windy, but silly warm for winter.
 
4:42 PM
Kierkegaard
Jefffrey
and so on...
Locke
 
@Jefffrey The guy from Lost? ;)
 
@MartinJames more "while drinking"
@FredOverflow yup
 
@Jefffrey Where's the philosophy in hunting boars and eating papaya?
 
@FredOverflow Several characters in Lost were named after philosophers.
 
@FredOverflow black smoke monsters and polar bears
it's all a metaphor :P
 
4:45 PM
Locke, Rousseau, Hume, Burke.
 
Not Burke
 
Korzybski
 
Nietzsche: 'Who's gettin' 'em in next? I'll have a double!'
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I mean that I've never studied that one, but the rest yes.
 
4:46 PM
Ah. I was just listing Lost characters.
 
wait
wat
lol
David Hume (/ˈhjuːm/; 7 May 1711 NS (26 April 1711 OS) – 25 August 1776) was a Scottish historian, philosopher, economist, diplomat and essayist known today especially for his radical philosophical empiricism and scepticism. Having a central role in the Scottish Enlightenment, and in the history of Western philosophy, Brian Magee judged him as a philosopher "widely regarded as the greatest who has ever written in the English language." While Hume failed in his attempts to start a university career, he took part in various diplomatic and military missions of the time. He wrote The History of England...
 
Jack, Claire, Kate, Michael, Sawyer
 
Jean-Jacques Rousseau (/ruːˈsoʊ/; French: [ʒɑ̃ʒak ʁuso]; 28 June 1712 – 2 July 1778) was a Genevan philosopher, writer, and composer of the 18th century. His political philosophy influenced the French Revolution as well as the overall development of modern political, sociological, and educational thought. Rousseau's novel Émile, or On Education is a treatise on the education of the whole person for citizenship. His sentimental novel Julie, or the New Heloise was of importance to the development of pre-romanticism and romanticism in fiction. Rousseau's autobiographical writings — his Confessions...
 
Adjective: caring (comparative more caring, superlative most caring)
  1. (of a person) Kind, sensitive, empathetic.
Verb: caring
  1. Present participle of care.
Noun: caring (plural carings)
  1. The act of one who cares.
 
4:48 PM
Oh ffs.
 
Ah, always wondered.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Wow, no nonsense.
Lemme try.
 
Who the fuck is burke.
 
Noun: berk (plural berks)
  1. (UK, slang, pejorative) A fool, prat, twit.
  2. berk m
  3. berk m (indefinite plural berkë, definite singular berku, definite plural berkët)
  4. berk m (plural berken, diminutive berkje n)
Adjective: berk
  1. strong, hard, robust, violent
@Jefffrey Juliet Burke. Or Edmund Burke.
 
oh blondie
 
4:48 PM
Nope, still broken.
 
> Edmund Burke was Juliet's ex-husband, and was also her boss when she worked at the Miami Central University Medical Research Laboratory‎. He was sexually involved with the new research assistant, Sherry. When Richard Alpert attempted to recruit Juliet to work for Mittelos Bioscience, she refused, jokingly saying that the only way she would be able to leave is if Edmund got hit by a bus.
>
> Edmund was aware that Juliet was testing fertility drugs on her sister. Once Juliet announced that she had succeeded, he tried to persuade Juliet to share the results with him. After Juliet refused, he
 
Ell
Okay got gcc-4.9.2 and bash installed on linux
that was surprisingly easy!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh. Didn't remember that her husband was actually Edmund.
 
Oh God
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Q: fucntion pointers using '<' as an operator

PRPI was learning function pointers and came across a piece of code here. The '+' is suppose to work as an operator/function void FunctionA (float a, float b, float (*pt2Func)(float, float)) { float result = pt2Func(a, b); // call using function pointer } void FunctionB () { Switch(2, 5...

> '+' is a function pointer
 
sbi
4:51 PM
@MartinJames You Kant!
 
@sbi Are you at the pub already?
 
no
might go later tho
 
you guys watched lost?
I thought it was some taboo thingy here
 
I did. It's horrible, though.
 
eh
it depends
 
4:55 PM
I liked Lost
 
as a fantasy/mistery thingy is p terrible
as a journey of a bunch of adorable people is p good
 
If you stop at the point where it starts being primarily the former.
 
There's little they don't explain, but the explanation seems to be somehow even more vague than the original question.
You go from "Why is there a white bear" to "Am I alive?"
At some point the smoke monster is the less weird thing.
 
I'm fine with not explaining anything at all. But fucking around for ages for naught, and giving half-assed cop-out explanations and not giving a proper ending for Sawyer? No.
 
not a proper ending for sawyer?
 
4:59 PM
Um... spoilers, guys...
 
no function signatures in haskell make me so fucking furious
 

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