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5:00 PM
Not something I have time for right now
 
yeah he's a Manc apparently
 
user3010322
Uh.
 
@AlexM. Manchester, England.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol, I was actually born in Birmingham and raised in Stoke. You should have heard my accent after working in Scotland for 18 months...
 
user3010322
Is there some agreed upon convention for header rows in CSV files?
 
5:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Like "God, what a moron", vs. "god, what a moron" :)
 
@MartinJames Glad I didn't
@MartinJames no offence
 
user3010322
Because I can't really... uh. Fine one...
 
@ThePhD Yes, they're usually header rows
 
user3010322
But what's the delimeter, the marker that tells you it's a header row?
 
user3010322
And empty "," at the start?
 
5:01 PM
No
It's first
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh the accent was pretty offensive:) It took me three months to understand what was being said in the pubs, and another three to talk back.
 
That's the marker
 
@MartinJames racist
 
@ThePhD psst (before it goes live)
 
Already live
 
5:01 PM
@MartinJames That's one heck of a time delayed conversation. Cheers Philae
 
user3010322
@BartekBanachewicz Yay.~
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus But I've got CSV's with no header row. ;;
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol, I actually have a 'Glaswegian' option in my app language menu, (it just defaults to English, but it's there:)
 
@MartinJames fwsauydgtiaksudyfgasjkudytgfajskduyfgasdfa
@MartinJames see I can speak it too
 
user3010322
Dumb file formats...
 
5:03 PM
@ThePhD Then read them without using first row as headers
 
user1804599
hi
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus How do I tell the difference?
 
@CatPlusPlus great
 
user3010322
or do I just not and let the user tell me somehow?
 
You don't
 
user1804599
5:04 PM
I hope Jison's lexer generator supports recursive regular expressions.
 
user3010322
This format is well-designed! \o/
 
user1804599
With backreferences.
 
I'm not sure why CSV would have a header row. Like... that's a detail of how to interpret the file.
 
It's literally bunch of values separated by delimiters
 
Isn't the header row just the first row?
 
5:04 PM
It doesn't need to be any more complicated than it is
Yes
 
user3010322
I have 2 files here, one has a header row first, another doesn't.
 
And you need logic to know what's in the file anyway
That includes whether it uses first row in any special way or not
OH COOL VIRTUALBOX UPDATE REMOVED ALL OF MY MACHINE METADATA
THANKS
 
user3010322
Kinky.
 
The Lounge Game Marmalade - 2015-03-22 (Sunday), 17-23 UTC
9
oopsie
 
When you load them into like, Excel, they get read the same way though. CSV doesn't convey any meaning beyond specifying a list of lists of strings.
 
5:06 PM
It suddenly decided that it will ignore %HOME%
 
"17-23 UTC" wtf is this
 
We call that a "range"
 
Same way XML has no meaning besides a tree of nodes with attributes.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I can actually produce hundreds of counterexamples for that, and they are not "I".
 
5:07 PM
hmm too much bold text?
yeah, better
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes My sentence does not stand up to rigourous scrutiny as an absolute
 
@Borgleader lol
 
But "Bible" ain't none of those things that you can produce
 
actually
 
Last year they both went for cheap ass subscription, now theyre just free
this is awesome
 
5:08 PM
-2
Q: New data structure for std::map or std::set

Dima00782Prompt please new or exotic structures of data for std::map or std::set. I already heard about : Red-black tree, AVL tree, splay tree and treap.

 
@Borgleader funny timing
 
^ close it
 
Does that mean I can FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINALLY build Unity players from command line
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you're funny
NOT
 
5:09 PM
UE still includes source
 
> Prompt please
Sir I have a doubt about this question — Lightness Races in Orbit 6 secs ago
 
Also gimme newer .NET for fuck's sake
 
Too on the nose?
 
Xeo
> Their pricing model apparently wasn't working, so they changed.
lol
 
user3010322
I wonder if CSV guarantees it'll have as many rows as columsn...
 
user3010322
5:10 PM
Ahh, fuck this shit it's too hard.
 
CSV guarantees nothing
Also that's a dumb guarantee and why would it
 
CSV is literally comma separated values
 
user3010322
Funny how the sciences always pick the shit formats. :v
 
except in my company they use semicolons
 
are shrimps good
 
5:12 PM
It does what it needs to do
 
Xeo
what kinda question is that
shrimps are great
 
Xeo
prawns are even greater
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus I typed that wrong: I meant that each row has the same number of columsn.
 
user3010322
@AlexM. Are you human?
 
5:12 PM
so um it's a format of some data that's separated by some characters
 
You get a file, you write logic to handle it
 
@Xeo do they taste a lot like fish?
 
Xeo
They taste like shrimps
 
@ThePhD He is dancer.
 
@Xeo so it's a specific taste nothing like fish
 
Xeo
5:12 PM
Define the taste of "fish", and I can tell you if it tastes like that, maybe
@AlexM. Every fish tastes different
well, not every
but they for sure don't all taste the same
 
user3010322
UUNFFFFFFFFF I want my string_view in this crap assignment. ;~;
 
you know like the seaweed you wrap onigiri in or w/e
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sadly Google cannot be used for case sensitive searches so it's hard to produce actual usage data.
 
it tastes and smells like sea water
do shrips have that taste too?
 
user3010322
Maybe I can just quickly port my string_view class on over...
 
5:13 PM
yeah so
 
Xeo
@AlexM. just try them
 
The ngrams viewer is case-sensitive, but it is italicisation-insensitive.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That wouldn't tell you much about the semantics without painstaking analysis, anyway
Just plotting frequency on a graph isn't going to tell you anything at all
Or, at least, it's not going to allow you to prove your nonsense :)
(And not just because you can't :P)
 
@Xeo I'll try to buy some
hope they have tiny packages
2
 
5:15 PM
I mean so I don't waste a lot of money on it if I don't like
 
sure, try before you buy
not many pimps allow that but you may get lucky
before you get lucky
if you know what I mean ;) ;)
 
I was not even aware that had any other kinds of connotations jesus christ lol
 
Oh, what about "Bibles"? Is that a proper noun?
 
Hello everybody! Would it be fine, if I'd ask a beginner question here rather than posting it to stackoverflow?
 
oh I can find connotations in just about anything
 
5:15 PM
@PeterI you already asked one
 
Well that one would not belong to so :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a pluralised proper noun, yes. Like "Smiths" or "Jacks" or "Robots".
 
are those black things on shrimps their eyes
 
> There are three Robots in this room but only one of them speaks.
 
like you eat them with eyes on
 
5:16 PM
> All the Barteks I've ever met are mental cases.
> I have three Enterprises on my shelf. They're models!
> Oh look, three Volvos!
I could go on.
 
Unity responded to UE4 lol
they released Unity 5
 
We perceive that time moves forward (we have to because of the way memories are formed), but there is no reason this must really be the case. If time really flows backwards against our perception of it then the entry to the time loop is not paradoxical at all and causality (in its reverse form) is not violated. — Michael Jan 10 at 3:34
holy shit
 
with an extra "personal" edition which is free to devs that make less than a fixed amount of money
 
and has all the engine features
I hate you Borgleader
 
5:20 PM
I just want to be able to automate the fucking build
 
user1804599
Morning.
 
Is there some kind of paper or protocol or whatever that I can take a look at regarding cell phone numbers?
Something that tells me what's the guaranteed range or numbers or whatever
 
Regarding what
No
 
imma upgrade my unity tonight
 
5:22 PM
hah I think Shog is now stripping trailing zero-width spaces from comments
 
they did well offering this stuff
now I'm less motivated to jump to UE4
 
@CatPlusPlus So it could be of any length?
 
cos I now have to write '.' at the end of them to submit them (presumably breaking his poor detection)
and yes I know you are reading this
 
and I'm less likely to do a quick and sloppy job with my game
just so I can try UE4
 
5:22 PM
I will never yield
 
Are you doing that rightfold thingy about saying "No." to everything?
 
Well that was p predictable
 
One of these days I'll try to integrate CoreCLR with UE4
 
5:23 PM
Don't let robot see that, or he'll implode
 
Pro-tip: do not open SE questions with "Hello, baguette-eaters."
 
Fuck it, I remember it was something like 16 maximum length
 
@Jefffrey pantoona, please.
 
anyway this answer is great:
lol love it.​​​ — Lightness Races in Orbit 2 mins ago
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hello Bag a' 'taters. Prepare to be assimilated.
 
5:24 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes urlplz
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Still writing.
 
Using of C++ class in linux kernel module? o.o shouldnt the answer to this be obvious?
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey No.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Must be a long URL
 
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Q: Should I capitalize "bible" in "the Christian Bible"? "the Satanic Bible"?

R. Martinho Fernandes"The Bible" is typically used to refer to the collection of holy books of the Christian faith. It's a proper noun and it gets capitalised. However, "bible" can also be used a common noun, in sentences like "TAOCP is a programmer's bible", meaning some kind of an extensive and comprehensive manua...

 
5:30 PM
Define "can I"? What are the parameters? What results are acceptable? Are you simply trying to avoid prison time, or did you have something else in mind? Be specific. — Lightness Races in Orbit 8 secs ago
@R.MartinhoFernandes so you've decided it's a proper noun :P
heyyyyy my server has been proven to be able to handle 1000 clients
yay
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, I didn't change my position. I didn't let it transpire in the question, but it doesn't contradict it.
 
well good luck
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's wrong with that? Baguettes are delicious.
 
hmm time for the other half of my second 14" pizza
I picked a helluva day to give up smoking
 
I can't wait to get the black unity theme
it was the thing I liked best about Pro
that and the profiler
silver sucks
 
5:33 PM
Fuck
 
@EtiennedeMartel TIL flashmobjeux is a thing
 
@Borgleader Yes. It is a thing.
 
Fuck fuck fuck
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Have both - put the half-pizza back in the oven for 20 minutes.
 
I thought my appointment was an hour later
 
5:34 PM
Tomorrow Crytek will announce they'll start paying people to use their engine
 
They'll also bump version number to 6
 
lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz Is this supposed to be one of those "Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo" kinds of things?
 
You titlecased it, you sneaky bastard.
 
5:39 PM
How is it 19 already
 
@MartinJames har har
@R.MartinhoFernandes wot
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't you talk about my momma that way!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If he didn't, it's just a the name of an American city repeated seven times. I assumed he meant to write a sentence there, and not just repeat a city's name seven times.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh must have been a plonked person cos I have literally no earthly idea what you're tlaking about :P
Sounds like the Buffalo game though
inb4 it's no game
 
Did anyone experience a issue with visual studio where you open a solution and when you right click the solution or project you only have "view history..."? Sync, Commit etc are missing (while I know I am not up-to-date).
 
5:51 PM
Yes
You did
 
Don't use VS SCM integration, it tends to cause more problems than it solves
 
Does anyone have a fix for this here and would he/she be willing to tell me how to fix this issue and actually tell me how to fix it?
@CatPlusPlus It did work perfectly for VS Online :( Now I open-sourced my project and switched to github and it's giving me a hell of a time
 
You probably have a wrong SCM plugin loaded
 
Hm visualstudio asked me to download "msysgit", could that be causing it?
 
god Boost documentation is SO bad
 
6:07 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It doesn't need to be documented (beyond doxygen), everything is just evident ;-)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ except when you touch asio
 
@Gizmo ^That was a joke dude!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I never get jokes :P
 
@πάνταῥεῖ where is the Boost doxygen output
on the web
 
@Gizmo I'm a sarcastic person, it's very unlikely other people find this to be funny :(
 
6:12 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Meh I never get jokes in this chat room :P So don't bother figuring out where the problem lies xD
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The docs quality varies between libraries. Some of them have pretty good docs.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You probably need to generate it yourself
 
i.imgur.com/TDimV8O.png hehehe I like such stats
 
@wilx Yes I can confirm that. Quality of documentation varies between libraries
 
user1804599
6:37 PM
I thought of this refreshing FFI: gist.github.com/rightfold/da54a2ffb01a0e024065
 
user1804599
Like, quoting JS code.
 
why did unity need a download assistant ugh
just give me the damn installer
 
user1804599
Photoshop also requires you to install an installer.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Is Vulkan anything to do with glNext?
 
@райтфолд Does your compiler have a notion of compile-time constants? Or is an int just an int?
 
user1804599
6:46 PM
@FredOverflow What do you mean?
 
@Nican It is glNext
 
user1804599
3 is a literal for an object of type Z32.
 
@CatPlusPlus Thanks!
 
1
A: Compiled C++ executables HUGE?

FredOverflowThis is one aspect of the fake C++ interview that is actually kind of true :) You know, when we had our first C++ compiler, at AT&T, I compiled 'Hello World', and couldn't believe the size of the executable. 2.1MB What? Well, compilers have come a long way, since then. They have? T...

lol didn't remember that one until I got the first upvote today :)
 
oh no 500kB
 
6:51 PM
Well, doesn't fit on all floppies...
 
user1804599
func get-user-names(): Set(String) {
    %awk(":") { { print $1 } }
    |> apply(parse-path("/etc/passwd"))
    |> to-set();
}
 
user1804599
muhahah this would be so awesome
 
@райтфолд Today, I wrote my first README.md for github :)
 
user1804599
Fascinating.
 
It was for me. I practically deflowered my github account, from a README perspective.
How does github make money?
 
user1804599
6:56 PM
GitHub Enterprise and private repositories.
 
My blog is in a private GitHub repo.
 
user1804599
GitHub is only free for public repositories.
 
So I guess I'm helping them.
 
> The license activation system is temporarily unavailable while we perform scheduled maintenance on our servers. We apologize for any inconvenience this necessary maintenance might cause you! The license activation system should be available again in a few minutes.

Thanks for your patience,

The Unity Team
well fuck :(
 
@райтфолд Curse you and your rapid edits, I was about to lay down some facts on your face and look smart and cool in front of everybody.
 
6:57 PM
> GitHub's Terms of Service does not require public software projects hosted on GitHub to meet the Open Source Definition. Therefore (and in any case) it is advisable for users and developers intending to use a piece of software found on GitHub to read the software license in the repository (usually found in a top-level file called "LICENSE", "LICENSE.txt", or similar) to determine if it meets their needs.
@райтфолд Interesting. Do your projects have licenses?
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
May I ask which one?
 
user1804599
Typically BSD license, maybe some have CC0.
 
@FredOverflow They're all throwaway projects. It's not like the license matters.
 
user1804599
I always BSD license if I don't forget to add one.
 
6:58 PM
@EtiennedeMartel But what if somebody wants to build upon pantoona's work?
 
user1804599
This is my only thing I don't want to have BSD license: github.com/rightfold/tools
 
user1804599
My other things are all BSD licensed (or unlicensed if I was lazy/didn't notice).
 

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