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10:00 AM
I am certainly going to write a Hate backend and Haskell bindings
 
@BartekBanachewicz btw... i have the crazy idea of bartek==barti^noon. please tell me i am wrong
 
Bartek pls no funposting
this is a no funposting zone
 
@starmole what
@Rapptz um, what are you referring to in particular?
 
@BartekBanachewicz sorry then :)
 
as sure as the sun rises, khronos has another craptacular logo for a new project
Who the hell designs these logos?
 
10:03 AM
@AMostMajestuousCapybara that's because you're still logged on as that too
Nice enough.
For sportswear
@Pris It's actually an illustration of the drag it creates on your project as it tries to move forward
 
Its the word "Vulkan" written in like, some super generic font with that dopey crescent thing in it
@sehe lol
 
I actually liked es2. simple baseline
extend it to get faster
 
your mother is a nice baseline
 
burn
 
she might be :) but better than dealing with 10 different custom apis
you never count max speed. it's always min
 
10:07 AM
Anywhelps, time to home
 
@starmole fucking extension hell again
some people never learn
@starmole yes, it's better to deal with 30 extensions, lel
 
Catch's when/then is behaving funny
 
I think SPIR-V is a remarkable and brightly executed accomplishment. I expect, its impact to the ecosystem to be as significant as WebGL.
@ThePhD inb4 you're going to write DX->SPIR-V shader compiler
 
wait... command buffers and command queues? that's very old gl isn't?
 
i think there is a lot of room to make es2 style stuff consistent and fast
 
10:10 AM
ES2 is dead lol
 
How about Macromedia Dreamweaver then
 
anyway, hhmmm, Haskell -> SPIR-V
 
huh, if the support glsl, I'll just stick to glsl till I have problems :D
 
someone should write that compiler
they explicitely state that it enables other languages as GPU DSLs
 
ES2 missed out on instancing, UBOs, and it has a lot of gimped stuff you need to query for through extensions
 
10:11 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Yes that's the whole goal
 
@BartekBanachewicz Why not volunteer? You are the resident OpenGL and haskell guru
 
make es2 run at 60 fps consistently
 
Note however that it won't support recursion :3
 
@Pris lol I'm terrible at Haskell
 
hardware and apis move slow
 
10:12 AM
and even worse at writing compilers
 
So guys just think about this
 
isn't there already a shader language that abstracts glsl and d3d's?
 
What were the hardware requirements for vulkan support again, btw?
 
@jalf ES 3.1
 
ES 3.1
 
10:12 AM
ES 3.1
 
ES 3.2
 
(transactional memory)
 
semantics
 
I will probably write a Haskell API generator like ekmett did with gl
 
Guys I installed clang-3.4 using apt-get but I can't see the binaries, what am I missing?
 
10:13 AM
might be that his work can be just slightly modified if they keep existing XML schemas
 
@BartekBanachewicz Call it glhf ahahahahahah ohohohooh
@Rerito The binaries
 
LLVM stirred things up quite a bit. The important thing is not to overabuse it: no python -> LLVM IR -> javascript -> again LLVM IR -> (??) -> WINZIP -> prolog -> still LLVM -> x87 asm compilation chain.
 
You write your code in JS, transpile it to C++, then transTRANSpile it to SPIR-V
 
On the bright side we're back to normal pollution levels here (ie, around ~150)
Time to go home nigglets
 
10:15 AM
@MarcoA. WINZIP made me giggle
 
@ParkYoung-Bae You're a pollution level.
 
So today my copy of C# in Depth arrived and this is how it looks like. What kind of pig handled it?
 
so beautifully out of place
 
@Rerito type in which clang
 
@AndyProwl You.
 
10:15 AM
@AndyProwl don't show it to robot
 
@Rapptz I did not!
:P
 
he'd have a panic attack
 
@AndyProwl Rip it up and ask for a refund.
 
@BartekBanachewicz it hurts
@Rapptz Do you think it's enough for a refund?
 
No that's why I suggested ripping it up.
 
10:16 AM
ah
 
(it's a bad idea don't do it)
 
does vulkan basically mean mantle and metal are both dead now
 
Have you opened up the book?
Is it wet in those spots?
I'm not sure why it's like that but the dots don't look like human hands.
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl Send it back.
 
Why doesn't C++ support structure style type declaration? Not a typedef struct, rather using typedef in a struct style: typedef { unsigned char BYTE; ... };

For example we can declare:
typedef unsigned char BYTE, byte;
typedef unsigned short WORD;
typedef unsigned long DWORD;

However why not with only a single typedef?
typedef {
unsigned char BYTE;
unsigned short WORD;
unsigned long DWORD;
};
 
user1804599
10:18 AM
In NL you can always send it back within two weeks and get a full refund if you bought it online. Probably similar where you live.
 
@AndyProwl Ugh I'd return that.
@ParkYoung-Bae wow. that was long overdue
@Pris done
 
@AndyProwl I'd try sending it back though.
 
@FatalSleep seems pointless to save typing 'typedef' a few extra times
 
@FatalSleep fuck that syntax. use using instead
 
@FatalSleep Useless syntactic sugar.
 
10:20 AM
also c++ has using x = y; which is way cooler
 
using x = y does seem cooler.
 
user1804599
You can create something like that with Boost.Preprocessor.
 
An example with using?
(I've never used it in C++ beyond including namespaces)
 
using byte = unsigned char;.
 
Ah.
 
10:22 AM
using can also be templated.
Handy for making template aliases.
 
Hmm.... very itneresting.
This syntax is more enjoyable indeed.
 
y'all think we'll get half life 3 today
 
@Pris if anything, you'd get an announcement, meaning the game won't be out until 2018 or something
 
Thanks @Pris got it now :)
 
10:26 AM
@BartekBanachewicz What if it uses the new Valve headset powered by Vulkan and its SteamBox exclusive
 
too many what ifs
 
user1804599
Vulkaanuitbarsting.
 
Did Unity make a counter announcement to UE4 yet? I heard they were going to soon
GDC is so hype
 
The Lounge Game Marmalade scheduled for 2015-03-22 (Sunday). Let's pick a format now.
@Rapptz would you be so kind
 
@Pris yeah
I'm sure they make counter announcements
10 hours after the other guys made announcements
 
10:29 AM
> You are talking about man and woman as friends. Sorry, that doesn't have any place in our society. We have the best culture. In our culture, there is no place for a woman.
 
give them some time
 
user1804599
ok so I had this wonderfuul idea
 
user1804599
> A decent girl won't roam around at nine o'clock at night. A girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy
 
user1804599
10:30 AM
Shawarma > ML Sharma
 
shit I roam at 9+ PM
wait I'm a fat fuck
I'm safe
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Seen this? youtube.com/watch?v=KQEeXmcWOxI
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lolwtf
 
@jalf Somehow not as bluntly offensive as Mr. Asshole ML Sharma.
 
10:34 AM
@райтфолд Thank you for the sample.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Absolutely agreed. My guy is just unintentionally funny :D
 
@jalf that wasn't that bad
 
"We have the best culture." is so...
I... What.
 
user1804599
@FatalSleep Don't use it lol
 
10:35 AM
I won't.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I didn't post it because it was bad, but because it made me laugh :p
 
user1804599
It's too cryptic.
 
It's weird.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes somehow makes you realize that Bartekrants aren't that bad, doesn't it.
 
It's a nice proof of concept though I guess.
 
10:35 AM
Watching the host try to keep a straight face and not burst into laughter
 
@BartekBanachewicz Did you just compare yourself with ML Sharma?
 
I prolly shouldn't
 
user1804599
In Go you can do this:
 
user1804599
type (
    T0 []string
    T1 []string
    T2 struct{ a, b int }
    T3 struct{ a, c int }
    T4 func(int, float64) *T0
    T5 func(x int, y float64) *[]string
)
 
user1804599
But this creates new types, not just aliases.
 
10:36 AM
Ah.
 
anyway, the article was a terrifying read
felt like my soul was dipped in tar is p accurate
 
@райтфолд Eh, I don't feel like going through the whole process
 
user1804599
Bring it to the bookwash!
 
oh also Unreal Engine is free @Xeo dunno if you've noticed /cc @ThePhd
 
I also noticed there is no:
using name = type , name = type;
typedef type name, type name;

I can understand typedef not having it because of the syntax:
typedef type name, name, name;

using would be nice though.
 
10:38 AM
@sehe That would mean effort + an X-day delay since I start learning this shit, which is quite urgent.
 
@BartekBanachewicz /cc @LightnessRacesinOrbit
 
And I'm afraid X would be at least 7
probably 14
 
@AndyProwl I thought you had the ebook too?
 
@jalf hahahahahah
 
@AndyProwl Also. what is so special about the content of C# in depth that cannot be found elsewhere :/
 
10:39 AM
@Rapptz Yes. It's not wet, the pages are clean
@sehe Nope
 
Bring female foreign chaffeurs! Priceless.
 
@sehe I need a book, I can't learn fast by trial-and-error + tutorials
 
@sehe People learn differently.
 
@AndyProwl I think I have it. I would share it in this special occasion :/
 
@AndyProwl maybe it's from the packaging, like some dust or something
 
10:40 AM
Ugh, I'll be outside for a moment.
 
@AndyProwl If the pages themselves are clean and not wet then it's what Bartek said.
 
@BartekBanachewicz The packaging seems ok
 
I prefer books myself. Duh.
It's just I get this disconnect when "it's urgent". Well. You adapt the plans :)
 
oh BTW my friend confirmed I have a place to stay in London so I suppose I have no way to not go to the unconference
 
@sehe I'm not going to return the book, but thanks.
 
10:40 AM
fuckers.
 
@AndyProwl :d
 
@sehe What's inappropriate with "it's urgent"?
 
you know, there are always something called hotels
 
@AndyProwl Nothing. I explained what I meant. I don't have time to repeat
 
Oh by the way when is the unconference?
 
10:46 AM
hm also I think I'll buy this Renault
 
@sehe Hmm, repeating "Well. You adapt the plans :)" would not even help. But if you don't even have time to "repeat" that, I guess "expanding" is out of question. Anyway that's fine, it's not urgent.
 
@Mr.kbok June 13th.
 
inb4 where is the unconference?
:P
 
@AndyProwl And why is the unconference?
 
lol
 
10:48 AM
@AndyProwl I wanna go back there in the future! Let's schedule it!
 
676.06 € WHAT THE FUCK
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm in
 
@BartekBanachewicz To go to London?
 
Are you going via Australia?
 
10:49 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Which means?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's the plan?
 
@Mr.kbok London, booze.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I hope it iives long and prospers ;)
 
iiving is what my ear does.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes which means I'm staying for 2 days more because it's 10 (ten) (TEN) times cheaper
 
10:50 AM
@BartekBanachewicz No, I meant which means of transportation.
 
@AlexM. fucking stop it
 
€60 right now for friday-monday
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ahaha. Well, flight
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I < 3 u
 
10:51 AM
i better buy the tickets soon. Is the 13th set in stone? When are others arriving?
 
Yes, it is.
thecosh will kill you if you suggest otherwise.
 
It's still 3 months into the future! What is with all this planning?!
 
okey. Mmm also what airports guys
 
Crazy people
 
(inb4) I'm not flying to Luton
uh well Stansted isn't exactly close either
shit.
 
10:53 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Dunno. Probably Friday-ish.
 
do we have anyone in London with a car or something, like @Ell
 
Like last year, I intend to travel a bit before getting there.
 
@BartekBanachewicz close to where? Is there a specific location we should aim for?
 
@jalf to the centre, I suppose
 
@BartekBanachewicz You should use Larnaca airport
 
10:58 AM
@jalf things tend to be cheaper if booked in advance
 
@BartekBanachewicz What "centre"?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the opposite of Luton
 
@TheForestAndTheTrees Sure, but THREE MONTHS? :D
 
The opposite of Luton is Brighton.
 
@jalf it's a few times cheaper
 
10:59 AM
(as they relate to London)
 
That's practically the distant future
Might as well book a flying car as well imo :D
 
Does the standard C11 support namespace(C11 not C++11)?
 

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