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user142019
3:00 PM
Dammit C#.
 
By the way... One of my retarded colleagues from uni made something that actually works. It scrapes Youtube links into web music player. Aaaand it found your link, @LightnessRacesinOrbit. tuneskyline.com/?page_id=43&id_plyty=368
 
user142019
Y u allow bar\u0066oo as a damn identifier.
 
It's only in polish right now, but works pretty intuitively. You can type any weird shit in, and it will find it ("Dodaj album" = "Add album")
 
immazed.
And the tune is pretty neat. I am untwisted now.
 
3:04 PM
it's a brilliant album
 
Well it's rather good.
But I wouldn't call it brilliant.
 
only because you would be too busy finding it brilliant to actually say anything
 
Do you know I:Scintilla? That's brilliant
 
@DeadMG Are you implying that I may be anything less than a completely stellar person?
 
@JerryCoffin You are so much* more than that!
* s/much/many/
 
3:10 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Good call!
 
@JerryCoffin Thanks, chief!
 
what's a good laptop for programming?
 
@Crowz the one that they refuse to sell to you
 
@Crowz Depends on what're you're writing.
 
@BartekBanachewicz no
bbl
 
3:11 PM
I feel like Crowz lives in a house where there are no sharp objects and all hard edges are padded.
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How do you know? :(
 
@Crowz Depends
 
@EtiennedeMartel Only, they forgot to unplug the internet
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
@Crowz for use on a boat, or just regular programming?
 
3:12 PM
Actually I cut myself on the rounded edges...
 
Xeo
// delete message
delete _message;
 
@SteveKonves Simple simple programming
 
Xeo
Thanks, Captain Obvious...
 
ooo new largest prime discovered...
(2^57885161)-1
 
@Crowz SLOWPOKE
@Crowz so it can be anything. Doesn't really matter. Programming is as much as editing text... Which even laptop from 1998 can handle, obviously.
 
3:15 PM
Ya I don't keep up with news especially science news hah
 
Xeo
Y'know, I was wondering why my message was split. Sometimes, ignoring someone confuses me.
 
@Xeo Always. Still worth it though
 
Xeo
Aye
 
@sehe Nobody's perfect.
 
@sehe Internet should be read-only for the vast majority of people
 
3:21 PM
Chromebooks. What are they?
 
@Crowz regular laptops with Chrome OS installed
 
@BartekBanachewicz Chrome OS huh? What's special about that?
 
@Crowz Well fucking nothing? Why should something be special about that?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Maaagic
 
@Crowz ¬_¬ old news bud
@Xeo Crowz?
 
Xeo
3:26 PM
Aye
Who else cut through my message? :p
 
huh, how come?
@Xeo someone I also have plonked :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz Because they're advertising it like it's something amazing.
 
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Q: C++ writing a proper function-like macro

Barney HsiaoI've been banging my head trying to write a proper #define function-like macro but am getting stuck. Here's the example I'm working with: #include <iostream> #define pMAKE(x,y,z,dest)\ (dest).(x) = (x);\ (dest).(y) = (y);\ (dest).(z) = (z); struct pt { double x, y, z; }; ...

I meant to post this. The guy is even more sick in the head than our beloved bird.
@Crowz ...
 
Xeo
Someone, bananas!
 
Waah git coloured output doesn't work
@Crowz It's called "marketing", welcome to the real world
 
3:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus why not?
 
@sehe I don't know, color.ui is auto
 
If Java, the syntax and the language, were to become a compiled strong-type language, would Java be liked by the community?
 
lol, no.
 
@CatPlusPlus I dunno. Google usually doesn't overpromise and underdeliever
 
> WARNING: terminal is not fully functional
 
3:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus I have that too. But only on winxp. Annoying. Keep typing --color=always on the CLI
 
Oh hello
 
@DeadMG :( It's a nice thought after taking a shower.
 
@CatPlusPlus That's when you do pipes
 
I just ran git diff
 
@tom_mai78101 Any thought of Java is, by default, not a nice thought.
 
3:30 PM
@CatPlusPlus Could it be that the default pager ruins the terminal detection?
 
@DeadMG Does that mean I'm naughty?
 
@Crowz what's overpromising in "they are awesome"
 
Setting color.ui to always doesn't work but --color=always does
 
@tom_mai78101 Nah, just very, very unfortunate
 
@tom_mai78101 Not it means you are chronically depressed with suicidal tendencies.
 
3:31 PM
@CatPlusPlus If you find out how come, post on SO and plink me? I'd like to know
 
Oh shi-take mushrooms.
 
@tom_mai78101 It already is compiled and strongly typed
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Shouldn't it be ui.color? Atleast that seems more logical.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I mean, like game companies are kinda like "you'll get to be a jedi and fight dragons and girls will like you!"
 
I'll finish the things I should finish today first
 
3:32 PM
@CatPlusPlus I hoped he knew. And no one would point it out
 
@Xeo No
 
@Xeo color.ui
 
@CatPlusPlus I thought it has to be compiled to bytecode and then run it along with its JVM.
 
Then you get the game and it's like "click. Autoattack. Done"
 
Xeo
O-kay
 
3:32 PM
@tom_mai78101 See, you said it yourself
 
@Xeo :) man pages
 
@CatPlusPlus Exactly. Now I'm naughty. :(
 
@Xeo There are more colour settings and they're all grouped under color.
 
I do have suicidal tendencies. :(
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus I see.
 
3:33 PM
@tom_mai78101 no.
 
I have no hopes of you people ever learning when it comes to "compiled languages"~
Stupid git is ruining my day again
 
define "you people".
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm sorry that I failed your expectations, my Father.
 
@Crowz no, that's what you hear. That's too bad you don't fight dragons and don't have a GF.
dafuq I did just write
 
@BartekBanachewicz t... tfw no gf
 
3:34 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Sounds like Skyrim.
 
@tom_mai78101 If it were to allow free functions and operator overloading, replace GC with deterministic destructors, and replace its lame generics with real templates, that would at least be a start.
 
Does anyone here have a bit of OCD-ness when it comes to coding? Does it make you feel uneasy in real life?
 
wat
 
For example, I tend to try to sort a pile of pencils when I'm thinking of a game concept.
 
Stupid VS getting line endings wrong AGAIN
 
3:37 PM
Am I the only who found Skyrim's plot and writing to be fucking poor?
 
How can you make an editor so broken jesus
 
@tom_mai78101 OCD goes with the territory
 
@CatPlusPlus I blame your source control.
 
@JerryCoffin scala is halfway
 
@CatPlusPlus I think there must be a setting ('leave as is always'). Or at least, something quite similar
 
3:38 PM
@sehe Nope
 
@EtiennedeMartel hahaha
 
Xeo
Dammit, regex can be powerful.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's not SCM job to fix broken editors
 
@CatPlusPlus Well, the only reason for VS to baulk is when line endings are mixed, in VS2010+
 
VS doesn't change line endings, it only detects if they are inconsistent.
 
3:38 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Not sure about exactly halfway, but some improvement anyway.
 
Which means someone else fucked up your line endings.
 
It inserts CRLF in a file full of LF
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, that's one big MF assumption to blame incosistent line ends on VCS
 
It's really not that hard to detect
 
@sehe Hmmm.
 
3:39 PM
Or even ask
 
@CatPlusPlus But, wait, can't you set that in the settings?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I mean, what other tools could do this
 
@CatPlusPlus Power Tools (free addon) has the feature to operate on line endings. Get it.
 
@sehe git?
 
user142019
3:39 PM
Sublime Text 2 detects line endings and indentation automatically when opening a file.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I will when at work
 
Ahahahhahahahah you need power tools for VS to insert correct line endings
Ahahahahahaha
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, obviously, when you feed it mixed line ends, I'd very much hope for it to respect them
@Zoidberg How does ST2 handle mixed line ends? Vim style (^M all over the place)?
 
@sehe That's the thing: on one of my projects, there was this guy who went a bit too fast with the git install, and as such asked git to auto convert line endings on commit.
 
user142019
@sehe I think it just uses the user's preferences when guessing fails.
 
3:41 PM
Took us a while to find out why the fuck were the endings messed up in some files.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I was responding to Etienne thanks
 
@sehetw Like a good wine, it ages well. :-) /cc @jessitron
 
Yeah, me and the cat, we're BFFs.
 
^ that's a nice, forgiving reply
 
user142019
My C# identifier parser is almost done.
 
3:41 PM
@CatPlusPlus then I'm very sorry.
 
I'm still laughing at ~Power Tools~ to make line endings correct
VS editor is FUBAR
 
... that's just the name.
 
@Zoidberg The question was, what will it do with the 'foreign' line ends? I sure hope it doesn't just junk them
 
I'm sorry, your B.O. isn't quite strong enough to make my eyes water; you'll never work in a petrol station.
 
@CatPlusPlus Simply curious: Are you using VS2012 or prior versions?
 
user142019
3:42 PM
@sehe leaves them as-is, I think. I'm not sure.
 
@Zoidberg Are you doing this for school or work?
 
user142019
@sehe for fun.
 
@Zoidberg At least with Vim it is very clear
 
Visual Studio: Maximum Lolage.
 
user142019
3:43 PM
I'm implementing C#. :P
 
I can get 2012 but I'm not sure if I need a third one
 
@Zoidberg You really need to get a job.
 
--> laid <--
 
That also.
 
$329, 11.5inch display, 4gb ram, 1.7GhZ processor... should that be enough?
 
3:44 PM
11.5" ahaha no
 
user142019
> I can't get laid in Germany!
 
user142019
Rammstein. :|
 
You wouldn't want to be found dead there (SCNR)
 
@Crowz Only if you can plug another screen on there.
 
3:44 PM
@Crowz not enough dollars
 
@Crowz the screen is obviously too small
 
@Crowz CPU could be a bit higher.
 
Needs more cowbell.
 
well, just buy a stand. $10
 
Looking for value more than anything, top priority... newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131404
 
3:45 PM
I wanted to get Unsung Hero badge, but its requirements are totally stupid. How am I supposed to get 25% of my answers 0 and accepted
@Crowz don't dump links here and don't buy samsung
 
@Crowz Get a Raspberry PI for $25.
 
Well, at least Samsung doesn't need a bit design budget, they only have to copy Apple.
 
@tom_mai78101 run a cluster of them
@EtiennedeMartel low trolling
 
even one would be enough to edit and compile code
 
Their smartphones look like iPhones, their tablets look like iPads, and their laptops look like MacBooks.
 
3:46 PM
@sehe that's pretty much true
 
@BartekBanachewicz just not run it
 
@EtiennedeMartel HP started to do that too
 
@BartekBanachewicz well, they still have to have a big budget
 
@sehe he wanted to program, not to run his programs
 
@EtiennedeMartel Their fridges look like fridges. It is a scandal
 
3:47 PM
@sehe You're missing the point.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then the monitor is really small.
 
Editing code on anything smaller than 20" is a pain in the ass
 
in JavaScript, 1 min ago, by noob1992
Your xml tags are gay
 
@BartekBanachewicz He needs at least 21'
 
Especially if you use IDEs that take up 80% of the screen on their own
 
3:47 PM
@CatPlusPlus editing code on one screen is pain in the ass
@sehe LOL
 
@CatPlusPlus alt-shift-enter, or breakout vim and be done
 
@BartekBanachewicz Just ALT-TAB, improvise.
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Your XML tags want to have sexual intercourse with XML tags of the same gender. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [no-helpdesk]
 
@EtiennedeMartel No guts
 
I have to see how VsVim works
 
3:49 PM
@CatPlusPlus it works like magic
 
@CatPlusPlus pretty nice
 
@sehe Do they even lift?
 
in JavaScript, 4 mins ago, by noob1992
Man girls don't be diggin me cuz I aint' got no job
 
@sehe I'm sophisticated as fuck.
 
user142019
@sehe alt+shift+enter?
 
user142019
3:50 PM
As in xmonad?
 
@Zoidberg or VS
 
user142019
What does it do in VS?
 
@tom_mai78101 I presume you mean levitate?
@Zoidberg try it :)
 
user142019
@sehe muh that would require me to boot my other computer.
 
user142019
3:51 PM
Will try it in the not-so-near future.
 
Ooh effort
 
user142019
It seems that named arguments in C# are a language extension. :|
 
user142019
I can't find anything about them in the standard except for named arguments to attributes.
 
Well, yes. A ECMA C# 4 language extension, if that's what you mean
 
user142019
Yes. :P
 
3:52 PM
So, get a later spec
 
user142019
It exists?
 
"Value laptops" top item: $1200... I don't think this site knows what it's doing
 
user142019
I thought C# 5 wasn't yet defined in an ECMA standard.
 
user142019
Also named params are C# 4. :P
 
@Zoidberg I'm not psychic. But either: yes, or you need to learn how to search
1 min ago, by sehe
Well, yes. A ECMA C# 4 language extension, if that's what you mean
 
user142019
3:53 PM
Oh. :|
 
user142019
Oh they stopped doing ECMA specs. xd
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Cannot assign to 'variant' because it is a 'foreach iteration variable
:csharp:
 
oh god no
I will accept your answer. — Barney Hsiao 10 mins ago
The guy is hurting himself so much
 
@CatPlusPlus Why are you doing that, noob?
 
user142019
3:55 PM
Dammit.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Because I want to transform it
 
Is USB 3.0 backwards compatible with USB2.0?
 
yes
 
@Crowz should be
 
And why on Earth can't I assign to a foreach variable
 
3:56 PM
Both ways
but there have been USB memory sticks frying motherboards in the past
 
@CatPlusPlus There's probably a reason somewhere. Here, let me Google it.
 
It's a stupid reason whatever it is
 
user142019
The C# spec from Microsoft is a fucking Word document. T_T
 
Oh. It seems to be another case of "we can't trust the programmer".
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A: Why is The Iteration Variable in a C# foreach statement read-only?

Jon SkeetIf the variable were mutable, that might give an incorrect impression. For example: string[] names = { "Jon", "Holly", "Tom", "Robin", "William" }; foreach (string name in names) { name = name + " Skeet"; } Some people might think that would change the array contents. It's reaching a bit,...

 
Many if not all specs from Microsoft are Word documents
> my annotated spec
Heh
 
user142019
3:57 PM
Microsoft y u no PDF like any sane person.
 
This just in: C# has a different design philosophy than C++.
 
It's dumb
 
@EtiennedeMartel In other news: the sky is wet.
 
Well, that "Some people might think" part here at least
It violates principle of least surprise for people who are not idiots
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, ~people~.
 
3:59 PM
Another example of kicking competent programmers in the crotch and taking money out of their wallets because we can't trust them to spend it wisely.
 

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