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12:00 AM
@Morwenn I did not noticed why though...
 
time to catch my buuuus
am 15 mins late already
 
@TonyTheLion LEARN TO REGEX!!!
 
@Morwenn Lasagne<C++>
 
@Shoe CopyPasta<C++>
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I think it's more that typically people fall in love based on both, while pansexuals fall in love with people based on the contents of their character almost exclusively.
 
12:02 AM
@JerryCoffin mmm<pasta>
 
CreepyPasta<C++>
So many horro stories.
@ThePhD Not really. Looks always somewhat matter too. At least at first.
 
Looks are BORING!
 
@Morwenn horro looks like homo :P
 
I'm binge watching Parks and Rec
 
@Morwenn vOv One day I'll figure this out.
 
12:03 AM
I like it
It relaxes me
 
@thecoshman Ok, so many typos tonight.
 
@Morwenn close enough
 
@ThePhD You don't need to, just go with the flow and enjoy what you want to without overthinking it.
Also note that I'm probably the last person to give this kind of advice.
 
const volatile makes my life miserable.
Can volatile be applied to arguments?
 
@BartekBanachewicz @ThePhD @Mysticial stackoverflow.com/questions/35074586/…
 
12:08 AM
I have been compared to a summer's day. But not favourably.
Somehow that's funny /cc @JerryCoffin
 
@sehe Hot and smoldering? And deliciously sweaty?
 
@VermillionAzure Sweaty and uncomfortable
 
Not everyone lives in Hawaii
 
@ThePhD I suppose it could, but it wouldn't make much sense (though a pointer or reference to volatile certainly could).
 
@Morwenn what about a small meet up some other place?
 
12:09 AM
@sehe Indeed--very nice.
 
@thecoshman I don't think I can go really farther than Paris as long as I don't have a job. I don't have that much money left :/
 
ISTG Visual Assist taking forever to instantiate a template is murdering me.
Maybe it's because my temporary data scratch disk is my not-boot-disk?
 
@Morwenn Paris smells :\ get a job! where is you? Got a sofa spare? how far to nearest airport? can you pick me up? what drinks?
 
@thecoshman Hahahaha xD
 
@ThePhD No it's because the product name has "Visual" in it
 
@Morwenn :(
 
can't be thin, make everything else fat
 
I live in Brest, the very end of the world. I live at my father's house where there is penty of place, and there is an airport nearby.
 
I want some one to listen to nice music with... your town/city has such places right?
 
Ell
Hmm. I can't change the shell for my user
 
12:13 AM
@Morwenn what airport called?
 
> > makes Barbie fatter
> > Still impossible body structure
probably, from those feet
 
Ell
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper at this weight, her skull would actually be crushed
 
@thecoshman Aéroport de Brest-Guipavas.
 
'ello, all
 
12:14 AM
@Ell Wot
 
hmm... maybe fairy... ferry... boat
 
Ell
Nah not really
 
Da fuck
 
@Morwenn what's the code?
 
@thecoshman There's a ferry to Plymouth if I drive for 30 minutes.
 
12:15 AM
@TonyTheLion d'awwwwwww
 
@thecoshman I've got no idea.
 
@Borgleader <3
 
@ThePhD what, didn't you expect me to show up? I (almost) always do, at this time.
 
@ThePhD coolio
 
@Morwenn Plymouth is well out of my way :P what about Ireland?
 
12:16 AM
@TonyTheLion That's sooooo cute :3
 
@Morwenn BES by the looks of it
 
@thecoshman Suddenly it becomes more expensive. And I don't understand a thing when Irish people speak.
 
@TonyTheLion <3 <3 <3
 
@Borgleader Next semester it's gonna be all about the compilers 'n' stuff. :>
 
@Morwenn me neither for the most part
 
12:17 AM
@Ell do you mean that her face doesn't gain any weight like the rest of her body?
 
Ell
nah I'm just trolling
well
talking brown
 
What do you call taking some T and getting its pointer?
 
@Morwenn €445 lol
 
... Oh, wait. That's called addressof. ;;
 
@ThePhD feed me all your course notes n shit :)
 
12:18 AM
@Borgleader I'll feed you more than that, sweetiepie.~
Tilde Tilde Tilde~~~
 
@ThePhD It's called reinterpret_cast<T*>(&const_cast<char&>(reinterpret_cast<const volatile char&>(arg)));.
 
OOC, anyone in here planning on having a gander at this question?
7
Q: Describing pixel format information in C++ in a way that is usable at both compile-time and runtime

molfI have a library that does operations on pixels. The pixels can by in many different formats. I am looking for an effective way to describe the formats in the library API (internally and externally). For some classes the pixel format is a template argument, for others it is a runtime argument. S...

 
well... that's next flight...
I can't work out normal flight time requests
 
xD
 
not that it really matters, but is there a good time for me to crash at yours? hypothetically speaking...
 
12:20 AM
You'll regret it if you sober up in a random plane you jumped in for whatever reason while half drunk.
 
heh my uncle got blackout drunk at an airport once
 
@Morwenn worse case I have to put more effort into getting that job
 
@jaggedSpire Nice :D
 
@Morwenn he woke up on the plane with his boarding pass stapled to his shirt pocket
 
@thecoshman Not sure. When my father is away? On the other it's his house.
 
12:21 AM
why not have unconf @ moscow, u ppl no wanna stalk vlad?
 
@jaggedSpire Did he mean to take that flight? :o
 
@Morwenn eergh, april first till forth is still 250 :\
 
@Morwenn yes, actually
 
@jaggedSpire that's some damn fine service
 
@jaggedSpire Oh, could have been worse then :p
 
12:22 AM
presumably someone dragged him to his plane when boarding time came
 
@jaggedSpire I've had a similar idea and question, I handled it the polymorphic way for a bit until I threw that shit out entirely and kept mostly to the compile-time stuff. In the end, I made copies much like OP did describing the layout at not-compile-time.
 
@Morwenn what's youre nearest boat port?
 
@thecoshman Haha, where do you live?
@thecoshman Roscoff for ferries.
 
@Morwenn Ireland :P
 
@ThePhD I'm thinking of answering with a user-defined literal type for storing those, and constexpr objects for all the base formats so they can be passed in as template parameters
 
12:23 AM
@thecoshman To think I badmouthed Irish accent a few minutes ago ._____.
 
Ell
hmm
ubuntu ejabberd is old
 
@Morwenn did you notice I said I also struggle...
 
"I see you're using constexpr," I will say. "Do you want to see what it can really do?"
 
Cherbourg <-- where that shit hole?
 
There's a direct ferry between Roscoff and Cork.
 
12:24 AM
¬_¬ and don't say france
 
@jaggedSpire True enough, you should theoretically be able to pass around a constexpr class to templates, so the classes should be identical for both... PROBLEM: they don't want to store extra memory for holding the declarations around.
 
@Morwenn really?
 
@thecoshman Normandy? Nord-Pas-de-Calais?
 
iirc Corl is a twat to get to
 
@thecoshman I remember taking one, years ago.
 
12:25 AM
That is, whether runtime or compile-time, they essentially wants to have shims that point to the compile time structures.
 
@ThePhD kinky
 
to fair, so is Rosslare
:( I'm all alone in mumble
@Morwenn keep me company whilst I keep drinking!
 
@thecoshman Sorry, I don't mumble. And I'll probably go to sleep soon enough :p
 
@Morwenn just me?
 
@ThePhD so pass as const reference?
provide alias for simplicity
 
12:26 AM
@jaggedSpire I think a solution to their problem is, essentially, this:
struct runtime_pixel_type {
    private:
       constexpr compile_time_pixel_type* backing;
    public:
       // emulate API of compile_time_pixel_type here
    };
 
oooh, cherburger is a useless place to be
 
Yeeah.
 
@thecoshman Just you?
 
@Morwenn atm
 
user406009
I think I have just seen the most crazy C implementation of destructors to date. So, my professor really wants destructors in C, but doesn't want to use C++. He decides to dynamically modify the return address in the stack frame so as to place a stub which calls his cleanup code before returning to the original return address.
 
12:28 AM
@jaggedSpire That's about as tiny of a memory footprint as they can get. You would make it be constructible only from the compile-time pixel types, and make a factory function for creating these things from the compile-time pixel types by doing compile_time_pixel_type::layout();
 
Hum, Cork-Roscoff only works between April and November.
 
Just had some fun to see how far WPF has come, rewrote a bunch of control templates to kinda match VS :D
 
You can use private constructors with friends to the compile-time types, or just leave it open and struct the user not to hate you and new up something directly..
 
@Morwenn yeah, strange... not too expensive either to be fair
It's one hell of a ferry trip though o_o
 
12:29 AM
@thecoshman I guess there aren't enough people the rest of the year.
 
@ThePhD in other words blowing the existing solutions out of the water is going to be hella fun
 
@thecoshman Well, you just sleep and it's already over.
 
@Morwenn Cork isn't exactly the fanciest part of Ireland :P
 
Ell
oh balls
 
@jaggedSpire Not if I implement it and post it before you. :D
 
12:29 AM
@Morwenn vOv I'd sleep either way
I'm a terrible person to travel with it turns out, I just fall asleep
 
@thecoshman To be honest I only remember Dartmoor.
 
@ThePhD :P Have at it. I have to knit for a few hours tonight if I want the scarf I'm working on to be done in time
 
@Morwenn ...erm...
my geography isn't A*... but fairly sure it's better than yours right now :P
 
Ugh, sorry.
 
XD
DUMBLE!
 
12:31 AM
I also visited Dartmoor and it looks like what I saw in Ireland.
 
Dore.
 
@Morwenn bleak... desolate... archaic... cold?
 
@thecoshman Windy with sheeps.
 
0
A: The question to "The Answer" about branch prediction turned into Community Wiki

MysticialAs the person who stands to lose the most from this, I feel the need to comment. You already know what I'm going to say, but I'm gonna say it anyway. I strongly disagree with the wiki'ing of the Branch Prediction question and its answers. Why? There is nothing to gain from doing so and a lot of...

 
multiple boost asio async write/read operations may lead to multiplexed data - learned the lesson in hard way.
wut
 
12:31 AM
@Morwenn that's Wales, silly
 
That's all I can do. The situation isn't really in my hands.
 
@thecoshman Are you trying to claim that there are situations in which you're not a terrible person?
 
@ThePhD The Microfacet Models for Refraction through Rough Surfaces (Walter et al 2007) deals with a cool problem, but its unintended sideffect was experimentally determining the so-called GGX distribution (used in most engines today)
 
@JerryCoffin I wasn't trying to claim that all. Does pointing out you like to drink every night mean you like to drink all the time?
 
Others are not so interesting, though. Read all of them, except the Measurement and Modeling of Finished Wood lol
 
@Morwenn yeah, flights to Paris are like €50, that's so much cheaper I imagine I could pay for you to get there :P
 
@thecoshman Impossibru, I never visited Wales.
 
@Morwenn did you see men hugging sheep?
 
@Mysticial Minor edit: s/flip switched/switch flipped/
 
@JerryCoffin s/.*/fuck shit up/
 
12:35 AM
@ElimGarak Kinky.
 
@thecoshman I didn't see men, only sheeps.
 
@JerryCoffin thanks
 
@ElimGarak I'll finish your wood
 
Kinky.
 
@Morwenn hmm... sheep not being messed with... yeah, not Wales.
 
12:36 AM
@ElimGarak F that one, just whip something up in substance :)
 
@Morwenn I am a dab hand at varnishing o_o
@Borgleader erect that thing!
 
@Mysticial Surely.
 
I've got yawns... and am past doing a hot water bottle... so I'm going to take medication and hope tonight is warm enough as is :(
 
I'm finishing my beer and going to sleep.
 
I sohuld have done that a while ago :|
yay for the happy life :\
ok, I'm done
 
12:41 AM
Wow, this is what being dicks looks like (Major Star Wars Spoilers)
 
night blue tits
 
:)
 
weet dreams :)
 
wet dreams
 
@Shoe fuck this guy
 
12:43 AM
@Mysticial You would honestly think they had better things to do than close/CW high upvoted, employer-bringing questions. =/
 
hi
 
Annnd there.
Value semantics are now in sol. Goodie goodie.
Gotta check other stuff to make sure I've got it right but we seeeeeeem to be all set.
 
@thecoshman nn
 
@ElimGarak Like a big, huge, noisy metal birb.
 
12:48 AM
The noise is there to remind the plebs that you're in a chopper, yo
 
CGI in the new x file series is awful, literally terrible
 
@ElimGarak do you like low-flying jets?
 
@jaggedSpire Yes, I do! <3
 
Ell
@MadameElyse the erlang one I like best
 
12:50 AM
@jaggedSpire That's how you deal with ground plebs! <3
 
@jaggedSpire That bird in the middle of the video is so jelly :D
 
@ElimGarak extremely so
 
You'll give up half your rep, as long as they don't reset your notifications I trust :) — sehe 28 secs ago
 
12:58 AM
@Mysticial It seemed to me there was more to be said.
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A: The question to "The Answer" about branch prediction turned into Community Wiki

Jerry CoffinAt one time there was a problem with questions being automatically flagged when too many comments were entered. As SO matured, many questions started to collect enough comments that automatic flagging started to kick in when there was really no issue for anybody to deal with. That was (largely) ...

 
SO being out of touch again.
 
lol community biki still exists
 
> I strongly disagree with the wiki'ing of the Branch Prediction question and its answers.
Typical Mysticial lobbying for more rep
 
stop calling him a whore #disgusted
 
@Mysticial I hear it'll be automatically unwikid once you learn C++
8
 
1:03 AM
together
We can all learn C++ together
 
I just played Bridge Commander again. It's fucking fun.
 
@JerryCoffin Thanks. And as always, a different perspective that is so true.
 
@HubertApplebaum You really don't want to do that. I'm so slow the rest of you would be bored to death if you were limited to my rate of learning.
 
@HubertApplebaum lol
 
@JerryCoffin You still have quite some years in front of you, believe an old man!
@Mysticial probably the mods got pissed off at you not clickling your notifications
understandably so
 
1:09 AM
@CatPlusPlus Remember, they trust their own measurements. The CW will be removed when he gets his gold badge in purrformance.
 
Or when 1000 people votes against removing CW
 
Meta listening to the community? As likely as democracy in Saudia Arabia
 
@HubertApplebaum Read again, more carefully this time. Take particular note of the "against".
 
Don't get me wrong, that's a very good answer
But holy crap
190'370 rep out of that?
That's insane
 
@JerryCoffin Read again and notice I wasn't replying to that
@Mysticial what they should have done is forfeit the unclicked rep in the notifications :p
 
1:14 AM
@Shoe Not even close. Keep the rep-cap in mind.
 
Even if it was 1/10 of that, that would still be insane
It was posted 4 years ago
and received upvotes every day since then
 
@Shoe Yup--and just as relevant and accurate now as it was then.
 
I never said it was not relevant
I said it was posted 4 years ago to explain that a lot of reputation came from it, because a lot of upvotes were had for years
 
@Shoe Sure, it generates a fair amount of passive rep.
 
Ell
1:18 AM
Can I have a volunteer pls?
 
for what
 
Actually who cares really
Let him have its reputation
@Ell Go ahead
 
Ell
and click connect with default thing
then press lounge<c++>
 
@Ell Come here and I'll sneeze on you, so you have have a few billion volunteer virus cells. :-)
 
Community Wiki-ing shit should be OPs decision, not anyone elses (imo) =/
 
1:20 AM
@Borgleader OP would never make it a wiki
It goes against his/her self interest
 
@Ell websucket never connects
 
@JerryCoffin that's intimate :')
sharing virus together <3
 
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper I'm not quite ready of the intimacy of sharing Ebola.
 
@Shoe Which makes it even worse when someone else makes the decision for you
 
Ell
@HubertApplebaum oh :/
 
1:23 AM
@Shoe If people measured self interest purely by rep points and acted purely out of self interest, they'd never make anything CW.
 
exactly
 
@Shoe Why are we discussing self interest on a site that doesn't pay you to (mostly thanklessly) answer legions of good, bad, beautiful, and ugly programming questions?
 
@ThePhD you mean you haven't heard of rep2btc
 
@ThePhD so it's self interest when you get money?
 
@Shoe Some, however, apparently care less about rep and more about question quality (for an obvious example). For them, the question is more about whether CW is actually likely to improve question quality (which I generally doubt).
 
1:25 AM
oh come on
I don't believe that one bit
but whatever really
 
what am I doing here?
 
@Shoe Which? That some people care about question quality, or that I doubt opening the question up to editing by anybody and everybody is generally likely to improve its quality?
 
writing messages on a chat
@JerryCoffin mysticial's answer to that question is not about whether wiki-ing that question is good for the world or not, it's about not losing reputation
 
@Shoe just one, I'd say
 
There's no self-interest other than the ones the user defines or fleshes out for themselves, which in this case is the production of a high-quality answer. People have been complaining for aeons that rep isn't a meaningful measure of a person's ability to properly contribute to stack overflow or that they're an expert, yet we literally have a case here where someone does get a lot of Internet Points from the system behaving as intended... only for it to be turned CW.
 
1:28 AM
@edition oh, two actually
 
how is java like capitalism? they're both class systems that tend to involve conflicts over inheritance
 
the whole argument both the mod and mysticial brought out about CW is a horrible attempt to hide jealousy and greed respectively
I just wish they were upfront about it
and yeah reflection or whatever it's called
 
@Shoe I suppose that's possible--he does offer to give up half his rep to get it left alone, but of course it's possible he could make that offer with the expectation that he'll never be taken up on it.
 
@Shoe huh. It's an argument that says "our activity bump algo needs to be tuned"
 
that thing when you accuse someone of something you did
@JerryCoffin it will never be taken up of course, there's no such functionality and SO barely puts effort in functionality that is actually required
 
1:30 AM
@Shoe It's funny when "Shoe" mentions "reflection".
@Shoe projection
 
@sehe that
 
@sehe what was that thing you twote about regarding boost and multiplexed data?
 
For Mysticial, his rep notifications are probably sublimation :)
 
yeah that too
listen I'm a bit jealous myself, sure. I understand the mod side of this. I also understand mysticial's view about this of course. But really, the whole arguments they bring up are awful.
 
@Borgleader the 2011 one? That was interleaved data. It's when you're not careful about posting multiple (composite) asynchronous operations
@gexicide You will not be ok. This excellent answer highlights the problems and links some typical solutions (having a small queue yourself is not hard to do). If you want to read more, I learned a lot from thiis mailing list thread once — sehe 16 mins ago
 
1:32 AM
"OMG we get 1 notification a month, how will we handle that???"
 
@Shoe I'm pretty sure it would be trivial for a developer to simply go in and directly edit the SQL table(s), if they actually cared to. Regardless of whether he cares about his rep or not, however, I think he's drawn the right conclusion (and the mod drew the wrong one).
 
@sehe Yes that one. Ah, interleaved is clearer than multiplexed.
 
"CW is not about me losing reputation, it's about this heart-breaking inspiration story which basically means that that answer is an inspiration not because of its contents but because it's not CW; I'm also worried many more people might edit it now, even thought that's never going to happen"
 
> Partner, cover me while I edit the SQL tables (CSI:Special Takes)
 
@JerryCoffin They would never do that
They would lose so much it's not even funny
Beginning with users trust
 
1:35 AM
@Borgleader multiplexed is a different thing. (E.g. many connections on a single wire is multiplexing. Interleaving has to do with ordered streams of data)
 
it's a blank offer, trust me
 
@sehe ah, well the tweet does say multiplexed
 
@Borgleader pretty close
 
@Shoe Make everything CW
 
1:36 AM
@Borgleader o.O I'm so great. I just auto-re-understand-turdprut that
 
reputation measures nothing precisely
 
Precisely nothing
 
It measure your Dedication To Internet Points
 
not even that
 
Prove me wrong
I'll give you 1 rep
 
1:37 AM
rep has a positive correlation with your privileges on SO, shockingly
 
someone might have given 1 popular answer and received passive reputation for like 4 years and got bored 5 minutes after posting the answer
 
He was Very Dedicated
You just lost 1 rep
 
Reputation has not correlation with your skills, you effort, the popularity of your answers, the quality of your content.
 
Example: Mysticial
 
user406009
@Shoe It sorta depends on the amount.
 
user406009
1:38 AM
The really high rep people usually have it for a reason.
 
user406009
Below 10K, there isn't any correlation.
 
Below 24.7k I'd say
 
@Lalaland I have 46k, trust me there's no correlation
My main source of reputation is an answer on how to use short-circuiting
which got popular for some reason
 
@Shoe If it was done as a "we're going to take you up on your offer", there'd be no reason for it to lead to lack of trust (or probably much of anything else).
 
some electrician
 
1:39 AM
90% of my other answers are "use std::vector or std::string or both"
Like literally
 
Ell
What should I google for if I want nginx to match the domain as equivalent to domain/ so the user doesn't have to type the / always?
 
@jaggedSpire i would never get out of the floof pit /cc @TonyTheLion
 
@Borgleader Why I quit my dream job at Ubisoft /cc @ElimGarak
 
@Borgleader this looks like happiness
 
@ThePhD Seen it already.
 
1:41 AM
@Borgleader I haven't!
 
@JerryCoffin That would be childish and would only offend a very respectable user for no reason at all other than "he challenged me". If you don't see it as a very bad move from their perspective, then I'm not quite sure how to explain it to you.
 
@ThePhD Have you seen AC4:Havana in minecraft?
 
@ThePhD Dream, job & Ubisoft in the same sentence :P
 
@Shoe I'm not saying it would be a smart move--I'm saying it would not have to lead to any loss of trust. Those are two separate issues.
 
Not to mention that it would probably be reverted back to the amount of rep it was before due to the periodic rep recalc
 
user406009
1:44 AM
@ElimGarak Well, it probably paid more than his current indie gig.
 
@JerryCoffin Suddenly seeing your reputation halfed because some moderator thought he would take your challenge and manually removed that reputation to you doesn't exactly scream "trust me, we are going to handle this reputation system fairly"
 
jefffrey are you new or what
 
It's basically bending the rules they defined themselves in order to hurt a user
How does that not make you trust them less?
inb4 I don't trust them at all
 
laffo thinking snack overflow would recognise an obvious bad move
 
user406009
We need to get someone sane like Mystical elected as mod.
 
1:47 AM
Why are we even talking about this?
 
@Borgleader Nope.
 
I'm fine with the question not being CW.
Just fucking go ahead and say you don't feel like losing all your rep.
 
@ThePhD here
 
No need for a weeping story about how that answer is really just inspiration from other users that would be thrown away if it was CW
 
1:49 AM
@Shoe I didn't say a mod, I said a developer. I'm thinking in terms of them basically talking things over with Mysticial, his reassuring them that he was really serious, them instituting the changes he asked for, then charging him exactly as both had agreed.
 
Trust me Jerry, it's a blank offer
 
> Trust me
no
 
Let's talk about this instead ^
dat beard is... wow
 
user406009
It looks really ugly.
 
user406009
His mother would probably be ashamed.
 
1:55 AM
@Shoe Probably so (I said so from the beginning)--that doesn't change a whole lot though. As for giving up half his rep: I can speak from experience. If I actually cared to, I could spend a lot more time answering questions. Anymore, however, I probably edit at least 3 questions for every one I answer (and yes, I could answer most I edit). I could easily have double the rep with less effort if I cared to.
 
His statement about giving up his rep doesn't matter a whole lot indeed. That's my point.
As for the other half of your message I'm not sure what you are trying to convey
Are you trying to say that you don't care about rep? or maybe that Mysticial doesn't care about rep because you don't? or perhaps that you both don't care?
or maybe that you don't actually care about gaining like 100 rep from an answer when you have 300k already?
 

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