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10:00 PM
@sehe long time no stream
 
Not just the necking.
 
@JohanLarsson pfft long time no watch :)
@thecoshman deffo male. He has a moustache :)
 
yeah, I've been f5ing at a decent frequency though
 
Seriously? I have booked ~4 hours (of uninteresting stuff) today
If not more. Lemme count. ~5.5h
 
oh, I don't watch streams at work
 
10:04 PM
@JohanLarsson I think it's even supposed to automatically retry the feed once in a while
 
have seen notifications a couple of times but don't trust it
is the new job c++?
 
@sehe Is it Liszt in the background of "even more exercism"?
No it is earlier
 
@CaptainGiraffe Mmm. Not sure what I've been listening to. I suppose it could be shostakovich. What time mark?
 
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> Het ministerie van Veiligheid en Justitie (V&J) krijgt de komende drie jaar een subsidie voor de heersende doofpotcultuur. Dat heeft minister Jet Bussemaker van Cultuur bekendgemaakt.
 
10:07 PM
@sehe Schostakovich sounds right
 
@MadameElyse De Speld
 
user1804599
:)
 
@CaptainGiraffe Looking
 
@sehe Thanks. One of my favourites playing.
 
10:11 PM
Don't know the soloist really. The orchestra is nice
 
@caps the second argument is by-value (I'd recommend checking the standard anyway, something's fishy)
 
I love to listen to a specific song, but the lyrics are are so saaaaaad T___T
 
@caps What's confusing?
 
When public function names collide with private attributes is there a consensus that the attribute is underscore prefixed; begin() is privately _begin?
 
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10:17 PM
No, everybody does disambiguation in their own way
 
@thecoshman how drunk are you?
 
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Q: std::atomic_store and std::atomic_exchange do not exchange

capsAccording to en.cppreference.com, std::atomic_exchange and std::atomic_store are equivalent to a thread-safe std::swap. But that's not the behavior that I'm getting with g++ or clang++. Problem live on coliru. Why is this? Am I doing something wrong? Have I misread the documentation?

 
Prefix or postfix _ are common choices though
 
@TonyTheLion come on mumble and find out
 
@thecoshman risky
 
10:18 PM
@caps again, it’s by val
 
@CaptainGiraffe Putting _ before a user-defined name is undefined behavior.
 
@milleniumbug I know, but I'm trying to cover maaaany things :p
 
@TonyTheLion do it! do it now!
 
@LucDanton Pbfth. What good is that?
 
nobody knows
 
10:19 PM
@caps No it's not. In a ::global or std:: scope the names are reserved.
 
@caps It's a cute question. I +1ed it because it's a prototypical confusion others may have
 
@caps lol, user-undefined behaviour:)
 
@LucDanton lel. I get exactly that same urge sometimes
 
Hmmm, why do the atomic_* functions take pointers?
 
@sehe Thanks for your edit, btw.
 
10:27 PM
Hey hey
 
I know you guys keep tabs on some of the main C++ posts out there. This just came up and thought I would share it here (sorry to drop by and dump this but it seems relevant).
 
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oy vey
 
user1804599
it's moshe and travis j
 
@jaggedSpire d'awww @Borgleader
 
@Moshe Hey hey! I don't even remember what I used to help you with. It has been longer than usual this time
 
10:29 PM
@sehe Lol, probably C++?
 
Carry on ;)
 
But now it's going to be Calculus 2 starting Monday. (If you're ok with that.)
 
I often find that T.C. has similar insights as Jonathan Wakely does on specifics.
 
@milleniumbug strictly speculation, but possibly so you don’t get the order of arguments wrong
 
Interesting, seems reasonable
 
10:35 PM
Bwuh.
 
@TravisJ @Mysticial what post was that that you recently CW-ed? cf. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/315696/…
@Moshe I prolly can't help you with that (anymore)
 
That's unfortunate. :-( Maybe I'll be able to learn it in class for once.
 
@thecoshman That T looks like a penis
 
@Shoe Yer bored, ain't ya?
 
Looks like a hammer
 
10:39 PM
Being bored is for rapptzes
 
@Shoe YOU LOOK LIKE A PENIS
 
@Shoe And for Elyse too.
2632 people are bored in this Lounge.
 
I started out as a mathematician/physicist =) went through the tunnels at CERN. I guess I'm a lucky one.
 
And 3963 people are boring.
 
@CaptainGiraffe how many superpowers did that grant you
 
10:41 PM
@LucDanton None. I only saw one sign: Radiation: please walk fast.
 
@Morwenn You have an interesting way of counting. 255 of those people are all Rapptz, just to pick one at random.
 
@JerryCoffin I'm not bored enough to count.
 
@Morwenn I'm glad to hear that at least you're aware that you don't count.
 
@Ell Oh, yes it was! Sorry, I actually fell asleep for a little while after posting that, that's how zonked I was, aha.
 
@LucDanton I think I have superpowers!
 
10:43 PM
@JerryCoffin I'm throwing numbers as accurate as the ones in the news in your face. That's what I'm doing.
125
 
@Borgleader I will keep working on it: that's what this semester is about: making it the best Lua <-> C++ Framework in existence.
 
You weren't prepared for that one, right? 125!
 
the radiation must have broke out into a run and caught up then
 
@Borgleader I know what three I have to read, then!
 
@Morwenn I'm prepared for all numbers to to N bits (for some unpublished value of N).
 
10:45 PM
@JerryCoffin Can you also handle the new Mersenne prime they found a few days/weeks ago?
 
@LucDanton Thing is, I wrote code for the analysis of the huge measurement apparatus. In particular for the Goliath magnet.
 
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A: Is it possible to have these characteristics in a data structure?

JulesThe clue to finding the right data structure here is that the requirements (other than the space requirements and direct accessibility) are those of a binary tree. This got me thinking about how you could modify a binary tree to make it meet the requirements. What you can do is to effectively se...

wat
 
@CaptainGiraffe and now Dr. Doom is no doubt after you to use your secrets for his own benefit. yes, I’ve read documentaries about that
 
@Morwenn I believe I'm prepared for Mersenne primes up through at least M72.
 
Then using that, the predictions of the rays unfolded into Higgs. My lair is still a comfy secret.
 
10:48 PM
@JerryCoffin The idea is that at any unit of time you are modifying yourself, but since the world is a functional world every modification just returns a new person.
So those are all actually different people
 
@Shoe Poor tutor end of story.
 
I'm the tutor
 
@Shoe ...or else functional programming doesn't align very well with the real world. I am unanimous in voting for the latter.
 
It is a perfect hash. I might misunderstand stuff though.
 
10:52 PM
@CaptainGiraffe they say the tunnels are excellent locations to accelerate
 
Guise
 
@sehe Oh frood, bring that towel.
 
@ThePhD Unguise. Or perhaps disguise. Something like that, anyway.
 
The Magnet was at the time the best tech the world would allow. Several teslas.
 
@sehe cat lives in the proxy tunnel
 
10:54 PM
When you do auto x = std::bind( &my_class::my_func, my_class_object );, and x goes out of scope, is a copy of my_class_object destructed as well? That is to say, does bind copy the value here?
 
@JerryCoffin The latest one is M74207281.
 
@Morwenn No. It's (provisionally) M49.
 
bind always copies unless you pass in std::ref
 
That answer is pretty genius actually
 
The only thing I myself take away from that experimental run is that I Giraffe outcalculated the entire team of Japanese scientists.
I've never seen CERN since.
 
10:57 PM
@milleniumbug RIP, sol doesn't make copies q_q
 
@milleniumbug it even copies when you pass in with std::ref. That's the whole point of reference wrapper :)
 
well it copies the std::ref
 
Also, wtb std::awesome_reference_wrapper that does not have result_type typedefs on it and overloads operator.
I wonder if that paper is going forward.
 
@CatPlusPlus!!!! WHERE ARE YOU!?
 
@thecoshman Passed out drunk, mebbe
 
11:00 PM
Everything needs to special-case for references, this means they're broken
 
44 mins ago, by thecoshman
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@thecoshman Didn't see that
 
 
Last time I tried mumble nsa.buff.wow wanted to install a certificate.
 
@ThePhD std::forward<AwesomeProposal>(paper)
 
11:03 PM
@thecoshman Wot want
 
@CatPlusPlus mumble + drink... in no order, but both now
I call it mumink... or drumble
yeah, drumble
 
Good night. I love you all!
 
fuck off <3
 
@Shoe fuck on!
 
@Shoe We are all one and the same. I like necking too.
 
11:10 PM
So remember how I consider myself asexual?
I think I'm hitting puberty right now at 23 years old
 
@CaptainGiraffe Good night. I would say "make love, not war", but you probably prefer some other build system instead of make.
@Shoe Seems fair. Maybe there's still hope I'll grow up some day...
 
10 years late approximately
 
@JerryCoffin I'm forced upon gradle, ant and maven. I cry myself to sleep. make i_wish.
 
@Shoe holy fuck! why are you not on mumble?
 
@Shoe No.
 
11:14 PM
@thecoshman Why would I be on mumble?
 
To mumble.
 
It's the middle of the night, other people are sleeping
 
is this mumble thing an install or is there a web way?
 
@Shoe because we are?
 
@Shoe I don't remember that
Jan 18 '15 at 2:20, by Jefffrey
I'm asexual, remember?
but the transcript don't lie
@JohanLarsson no you need to install the mumble client
 
11:16 PM
ty ty
 
@CaptainGiraffe My sincere condolences.
 
@Morwenn chop chop
 
@CaptainGiraffe I love maven... if I say otherwise, I might start to cry :|
 
@Shoe to talk with us lovely individuals.
 
11:19 PM
@Morwenn ... yes pleas o_o
 
@thecoshman That's from the random comic generator.
 
@Morwenn I don't care, I want it!
 
@TonyTheLion what lovely individuals?
 
@Morwenn no. you
@Shoe Drumble!!!
 
11:20 PM
@thecoshman Trust me, you don't :/
 
@Shoe me, aren't I good enough for you? <3.
 
@Morwenn vOv why not?
 
@TonyTheLion lolno
 
:'(
I'll go cry myself to sleep then
 
:P
 
11:21 PM
@thecoshman Because there's a world between who I am here with my nice profile picture and who I am really am of course.
Only the occasional brutal honesty remains.
 
@Morwenn like wise, I can talk lucidly irl
lucidly?
 
if guys do it before 4pm in weekdays and after 4pm in weekends I might join
 
No idea.
 
coherently is what I meant
and who said anything about talking?
 
@Shoe wow those conditions. I could only do the weekend one
 
11:23 PM
@Shoe it is pre weekend
 
@Morwenn how about we skip the formal relationship?
aka booty call?
 
I'm not really into guys, sorry.
 
@Morwenn now that is intersting
 
Er, not really.
 
11:28 PM
It's funny how some sex-changing and sexual preference are not related
'fuuny'... odd choice of words there
 
@sehe Thanks for letting me know. Looks like I've got my work cut out for me. Defending that question is an neverending task.
 
Question.
Is there a trait that detects a smart pointer?
 
gcc: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1)
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See <file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.9/README.Bugs> for instructions.
Compile failed: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 4
ayy
 
Basically, you can consider that there are just three things: how you want to look, the role you assume in society and who you'd like to fuck with.
 
@Rapptz Up to Luc levels now.
 
11:30 PM
Of course it's overly simplified but as long as you consider that these things are separate, you just don't care anymore about many things.
 
this isn't even g++
this is gcc
this is quite impressive
 
@Morwenn I like sex...
 
@ThePhD Without a definition of what you mean by a smart pointer, there can't be any answer.
 
by which I mean sexual things...
 
@JerryCoffin unique_ptr, shared_ptr, that kind of stuff.
@Rapptz Wait. You broke C code?
 
11:31 PM
@thecoshman That's a pretty general statement.
 
How did you manage that?
 
I think I don't care that much about sex.
 
What herculean monster did you put through gcc?
 
@Morwenn it's about as specific as I can say with out doubt
 
I don't know.
 
11:32 PM
@Morwenn it's orgasmic
 
@Mysticial cheers
 
@thecoshman Lol, not always.
 
> Contrary to belief, std::unique_ptr
I need it to work for std::unique_ptr, yo.
 
?
yeah..?
 
11:33 PM
Basically, I need an is_pointer trait that works on pseudo-pointers.
 
...yes?
 
@Morwenn not doing it right :P
 
that's what that does?
 
@ThePhD is_dereferenceable
 
This is literally the NullablePointer concept in the standard.
 
11:34 PM
@ThePhD The point is, what characteristic(s) qualify them as a smart pointers? If you mean anything that overloads operator->, it shouldn't be hard to detect that with SFINAE (but I don't know of an existing trait to do so).
 
@thecoshman Not doing it straight either. Am I doing it left?
 
Which pointers and pseudo-pointers meet.
 
@Rapptz ... But the docs say that it doesn't work with std::unique_ptr!
 
had to close mumble so I wouldn't accidentally start speaking and ruin everyone's night :)
 
@Morwenn vOv do you get happies?
 
11:34 PM
Or... am I misreading things again?
 
@thecoshman Wat.
 
@JohanLarsson speak, we speak nonsense
 
Ooooooorr mmaaaybe - don't bump edits to ancient questions with very high/low votes. People can/will have favourites if they care enough. — sehe 13 secs ago
 
@Morwenn ... do you get to do things that make you happy in a very intense ephemeral way?
 
@ThePhD Hmmmmmm
 
11:36 PM
@thecoshman I hardly ever get to do anything. I guess I liked the context as much as the act, but I don't think I can relate to what you're trying to describe.
 
@Rapptz Probably because of the CopyConstructible requirement.
 
yeah that's right
where are the tablesssssssssss
 
@Morwenn ergh... I don't want to be overly open/creepy and scare you from being a friend...
 
eel.is/c++draft/… I think they changed it.
 
@JerryCoffin I mean, the only thing I need to handle is basically is_dereferencable, I guess, like @Morwenn pointed out. The reason why is I'm writing an unwrapper for generic code that transforms std::reference_wrapper<T>, T*, T&, std::unique_ptr<T>, and std::shared_ptr<T> all into ---> T&
 
11:38 PM
but look at that.
> P satisfies the requirements of EqualityComparable, DefaultConstructible, CopyConstructible, CopyAssignable, and Destructible,
So yeah std::unique_ptr is not NullablePointer per the standard.
 
That's... kinda silly.
 
@thecoshman Haha, don't worry. I'm rather used to discuss dirty things and to see half-naked (or just naked) people anyway. Also, I can't count how many times people tried to approach me on the internet anyway .____.
 
What is std::unique_ptr, then?
 
A cool class template.
 
Well. It's not like this episode is going to be marked down in the diary as " ☑ 1 painless conversion of an answer to CW today" @AndrasDeak — sehe 31 secs ago
:)
 
11:39 PM
@Morwenn I'm a flirty drunk... please don't take advantage/offense
 
@thecoshman I won't take offense, but I've no reason to take advantage either :p
 
@Morwenn irl... because you are coming to uncon :D
 
Huh. There's no std::is_dereferencable.
Guess I'd better write it. vOv
 
You can dereference std::reference_wrapper?
 
@thecoshman I really can't promise that.
 
11:42 PM
I thought you had to use get()
 
@Morwenn :P
 
> tfw std::reference_wrapper doesn't have unary operator*
... Cmon, C++. =/
 
why would it?
 
I've also found myself in embarassing situations where guys tried to approach me IRL ._____.
 
it's not a pointer
it's supposed to be a reference
 
11:42 PM
It baaaasically is.
 
It's not.
 
how it's implemented is irrelevant lol
 
aaaah good morning
 
Sob.
 
@HubertApplebaum morning
 
11:43 PM
I remember these semi-old dudes bound to a cross on the wall...
 
@Morwenn but atm, you'd only 'aim' towards ladies?
 
@ThePhD Just that you can find a part about your socks that smells like Swiss cheese doesn't mean its "baaaasically" swiss cheese
 
@thecoshman I don't aim towards anyone.
 
11:43 PM
@HubertApplebaum ¬_¬ I'm aiming for more drunkness, hoin me
@Morwenn shame, it's great fun IIRC :|
 
@набиячлэвэлиь What, I'm not even joking.
 
... Note to self: avoid taking detours through France. ;;
 
and don't confuse smart pointers with all other kinds of proxies
 
Morwenn lives in Brittany, not France
Know the difference
 
@TonyTheLion alright
 
11:45 PM
@HubertApplebaum one confuses English about it's the location, the other spawns jokes
 
@ThePhD As long as you don't enter libertine clubs, you should be fine.
 
@sehe Well, std::bind universally handles shared ptr / unique ptr / etc. stuff, so I've gotta make that stuff work too.
 
> about it's the location
yes
 
@ThePhD std::bind is pretty useless. The only value is "We apologize for not having polylambdas yet because we suck".
 
I just wanted something that worked with std::unique/shared_ptr-like classes, I guess.
 
11:46 PM
@HubertApplebaum it's off the north east coast right?
 
It's southwest of Normandy
It's been critically acclaimed as best country ever by many reputed scientists
 
@HubertApplebaum isn't it that sticky out bit?
 
see, I know places
 
Is it nice to visit?
 
11:47 PM
go on, ask me places are
 
where is your mum?
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@ThePhD The implicit conversion does it already. Also, there's customization points for this. There's a trait that tells bind how to dereference a thing AFAIK (at least for boost. I wasn't aware std::bind had it)
 
Brittany is that huge fist in the ocean.
 
Note for the ones to come: @thecoshman is, in fact, gay.
 
@TonyTheLion at home, I'd say
 
11:48 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь aren't we all
 
@набиячлэвэлиь that's a bold claim
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Looks more like some shade of pansexuality to me.
 
@thecoshman You said you were down for sex with a male
 
@Morwenn I'd go for that :\
 
And I'm not talking about having sex with pans.
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11:49 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь no, I said I was up for sexual things with a person
 
@thecoshman You said you were down for oral sex with @BartekBanachewicz
 
I'm not attracted nor disgusted by men
 
@набиячлэвэлиь no, I said I don't mind taking a dick suck
that said, they don't do anything for me
 
Omg finally we get per-room flags? No way
 
11:50 PM
Pavlov training works people
 
The problem generally isn't the dick but the rest of the owner.
 
@HubertApplebaum holy shit! that's amazing
 
@TonyTheLion KICK IMMINENT
 
whats up?
 
@Morwenn I never understood the difference between pansexual / bisexual, to be fair.
 
11:51 PM
@TonyTheLion this
 
@ThePhD Have sex with everyone instead of 2 people
 
@ThePhD it's vauge...
 
I think it's about weather or not you see a difference between genders
do you like 'both men and women' or 'people'
 
My current rational is that pansexual is that you're attracted to people based on who they are as a person and their looks/sexuality is secondary in the equation.
@thecoshman Yeah, what you said.
 
11:52 PM
@Morwenn You need some love <3 <3 <3
 
@Morwenn yeah, the dick :P
 
"Falling in love" based on looks alone sounds like a ridiculously stupid idea to me
 
I don't know how I'm supposed to handle your answer :3
 
@Morwenn me?
 
@thecoshman inb4 you have @TonyTheLion plonked
 
11:53 PM
@thecoshman Yours, and Tony's too.
 
@Morwenn I was just trying to be nice.
 
@Morwenn mine was saying how 'the dick' can refer to the person... I was being silly
 
@TonyTheLion I speak dick, you answer love. There are several ways to read that :D
@thecoshman Oooooh, right.
 
It seemed like you were distressed about something, so I thought I'd be nice and share the love. I'm sorry if it come over as weird or awkward
 
@Morwenn ah, fuck it
 
11:54 PM
@thecoshman No thanks :D
 
@Morwenn that wasn't what I meant
 
@Morwenn ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
@Morwenn well fuck you then :P
 
@TonyTheLion Oh no, don't worry, I ain't distressed about things like that <3
 
ok then
 
11:55 PM
@thecoshman Yeah, I was about to.
 
@Morwenn well as long as you get your happies
 
@TonyTheLion It's just that coming from you it surprised me a bit :)
 
@Morwenn oh
 
@JohanLarsson Repost :)
 
11:56 PM
@TonyTheLion Charles Augustus Magnussen was right: the British truly are overly apologetic all the time
 
@Morwenn he's always on about love
 
@sehe you posted first?
 
> "Thankfully an engineer came to fix it and turn it off. It seems to be some kind of electronic accident.
Yeah right
@JohanLarsson Tony IIRC (can't find it quick)
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I didn't want to upset @Morwenn
 
@sehe ok, no need for finding
engineer fixed it
 
11:57 PM
@TonyTheLion You didn't :)
 
@sehe yea I posted that earlier today
@Morwenn phew
 
PSA: The internet doesn't have to be a mean place
 
I mean, I don't think people in the Lougne are easily upset. Or maybe they're always upset.
 
@Morwenn easily something... empassioned
that's a word!!!
 
> Lougne
 
11:59 PM
@Morwenn I noticed that
 
Lougne<C++>
 
@thecoshman s/empassioned/impassioned ?
 
@sehe "Smart TV" huehuehuehuheue.
 

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