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14:00
I considered rowing but it's fucking expensive. And indoor it's sooo boring
what's rowing?
oh
googled
probably my compromised elbow wouldn't bear it
Ell
Ell
Rowing is hardverk
A colleague of mine does it
The ultimate goal would be to have my own home gym
But that would require owning a house as well...
I can still beat people at things like plank.
14:04
@Morwenn I hate working out the abs :(
@Rerito Haha, I never work out anything :D
I don't even know how I manage to stay rather fit. Fasting maybe?
If you don't eat much that's enough
@AndyProwl There's a real nice spot to do it very close to my home but it's so expensive I gave up the idea
@Morwenn Luck
@Rerito That's the only viable explanation I can think of.
Dunno about you @AndyProwl but I can't stand the heat anymore
14:08
@Rerito What heat?
The usual heat (I'm always in t-shirt at the office whereas everyone else wears a pullover)
oh
the more heat I get the better
I'm very Italian in this
maybe that's because you have a lot of muscles
Not so much
user3790646
Hello
as for me, I tend to be cold all the time
like, below 23 degrees is unpleasant
14:10
interesting useless fact of the day
The spacing between apps on the iPad pro (324px) is wider than the original iPhone display (320px). https://t.co/Z4PWSpvjc8
t-shirt temperature starts at 25
shorts temperature around 27
Xeo
Xeo
sunny @ 15 degrees is best
hm, no 25 is too low for t-shirt
@AndyProwl At 27 I hardly stand usual pants
@Rerito yeah, I'm a bit of an extreme case
it's also related to immunity
the colder it is, the easier for me to get supersick
so even if it's not exactly pleasant, I prefer to sweat than to be slightly cold
14:12
Plus every pants I have are tight (they're not slim)
Tightness + sweat = ewwwww
@Mr.kbok what do you think about Waveform?
It's weirdly warm in UK ATM t and shorts OK for walking Bailey, (if I jog a bit).
Xeo
Xeo
@AndyProwl My thinking is "against cold, I can do something" (wear warmer clothing, turn up the heaters) - "against heat, I am lost"
@Xeo eh, yes, but against cold I can't do anything
I mean, wearing more stuff doesn't help me much
Fight it with FIRE
14:15
..or aircon.
I wish it was like 30 degrees every day and 23 every night
Xeo
Xeo
ugh
when I will be president of the world I'll make that a law
@AndyProwl Go live on the equator or something
Coincidentally also a shitty place to live
@AndyProwl Well, I guess being overrun by insects and tropical diseases might be OK for some.
14:17
@CatPlusPlus yeah but that's way more than 30
also horrible insects and stuff
Ell
Ell
live in a greenhouse :D
I'm dying at 30
I never switch off heating
so I guess I do live in a greenhouse already
@Ell I thought we all were, now?
@AndyProwl It stays around 30
14:17
really?
30 is OK - it's what bars with a/c are for.
Tropics is where the temperatures get crazy
Ell
Ell
@Jefffrey life is short mayn
Equator is not the hottest spot
Ell
Ell
you don't have the whole of your life to be undecided I suppose
14:20
@CatPlusPlus The inside of your pizza box does not count.
I'm hungry don't talk about food
@CatPlusPlus the shops are open again, you can go
Lazy and working and lazy
@CatPlusPlus lol, saying that has never worked for me.
rip in not pepperonis
Ell
Ell
14:22
@AndyProwl or how about seville, or granada somewhere in southern spain?
It's p hot there
@Ell yeah, would be nice
valencia
@Ell lol
Ell
Ell
@Mr.kbok you've never needed to lift heavy things? :P
@edition I think it's a cool project, though your code have some issues IMO: global variables, unnecessary inline code. Otherwise the code is okay.
@Ell I do, rarely. I think the way you look is more important than the ability to lift dishwashers.
Ell
Ell
14:24
Being "toned" doesn't look bad though
I'm sure having less body fat is somehow beneficial to your health :V
Less chance of heart disease or something, idk :P
You don't have to work out for that, just watch what you eat. Added bonus for health effects not related to body fat
Ell
Ell
You have to work out for muscle
and if you have no muscle and no body fat, you're skin and bones :P which is p unattractive
it's a matter of taste really
Ell
Ell
Yeah definitely
I'd rather be with a skinny girl than with a body builder :p
14:29
@Mr.kbok Sectarism!
Ell
Ell
Idk, I'd rather be with someone with something to grab onto than a skinny girl
whether fat or muscle :P
but yeah no bodybuilders either way :L
@Mr.kbok You can look very good and be able to lift dishwashers at the same time :p
@Rerito Yeah but I'm also a lazy fuck
@Ell Well, body fat also has its benefits apparently.
Ell
Ell
yeah probably
keeps you warm in the winter :p
14:34
@Ell Also sustaining a too low bf level is unhealthy (and a pain in the ass)
I don't remember why though, but it wasn't all bad.
@AndyProwl lol, 15 deg C is perfect for t-shirts
tsk, Poles
he must be a... North Pole
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14:35
I should move there then
ba dum tschh
@AlexM. yeeeaaa
@набиячлэвэлиь Only when the weather is not windy nor rainy.
I'm from Kraków, which, IIRC, is to the south
@Morwenn weakling
14:36
@Morwenn more girly look maybe?
> IIRC
wut
It's also in your mind: if you don't try to be warm while you're out in the cold, and just embrace the low body temperature, it won't bother you as much.
@Mr.kbok Translation: more boobs
@Mr.kbok I think being obese inhibits the male hormones a bit yeah, but...
user3790646
They say coldness is psychologic...
14:38
@Morwenn no, it's just that girls have more natural body fat so you get a more girly look if you're chubby
@Andrey That....depends. Yes, when it's 15c, feeling cold is largely psychological. When it's -40, it's not psychological any more--it's truly cold.
> Body fat contains aromatase, an enzyme that converts testosterone into estrogens [...].
@Ell Keep a little bit of fat then
Random source, it may be total bullshit.
user3790646
@JerryCoffin Right, I'm not aware of any scientific evidence though
14:39
@Morwenn funny because my /dev/urandom usually outputs random symbols.
@Mr.kbok So funny ._.
> In particular, aromatase is responsible for the aromatization of androgens into estrogens.
I thought it was funny :/
user406009
@Mr.kbok That's because you are using urandom. Not random enough.
> specifically, it transforms androstenedione to estrone and testosterone to estradiol
14:40
@Lalaland Maybe I should try with a 14 year old girl
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@Mr.kbok Do I really have to remind you?
Oct 29 at 17:17, by Mr. kbok
@JerryCoffin there are much cheaper ways of getting randomness: you can, for instance, ask telkitty about finance
@Xeo That's an hell of a quote yeah
@Xeo p much the same :p
Xeo
Xeo
Or you can ask Jefffrey for relationship advice. Same level of randomness.
14:42
Has any of you done a colonoscopy?
user1804599
I'm gonna read this @Ven.
user1804599
The entire book.
Like... all of it?
user1804599
Yes.
ALL OF IT?!?
14:43
lol
@AlexM. lol
answering to elyse fyi
I know
@thecoshman Do you talk from experience?
14:45
but it's funnier like that
Hi @all from Antarctica!
user406009
Welcome.
guys, let's talk about terminology
I like terminology
suppose I have a functionnal programming language that no one knows about
I have a function f that yields a value
14:47
Earned a student badge today; thus I suppose I got 20yrs younger all of a sudden.
what is the name of the operation that makes the function actually execute and return the value? evaluation?
Ell
Ell
I would say evaluation, but in a pure functional lanuage there's no such thing, right?
I don't know :/
Ell
Ell
I get confused about this. When I'm writing about haskell, I sometimes write "when the head function is evaluated", and then I double take
because it's just an equation, isn't it?
user406009
@Mr.kbok I would call it run or resolve.
Ell
Ell
14:49
I mean I suppose you could say evaluation is replacing a function with its definition
@Lalaland I like resolve
@Mr.kbok you evaluate expressions
@Jefffrey I did
so somewhere you have to evaluate
to get anything
Ell
Ell
actually yeah evaluate
14:49
@Jefffrey I didn't. But I'll for sure have to in the future.
Ell
Ell
because you evaluate in maths even
@thecoshman Gastroscopy isn't fun either
@Mr.kbok The Lisp folks like to call that apply, and it’s one half of the eval/apply pair.
@AndyProwl How was it?
@Jefffrey Not nice but eh you survive it
14:52
With sedative?
Sure
like, you're not sleeping but your head's spinning and stuff
Do you say stuff you wouldn't say while not sedated?
Like when you are drunk?
@Ell +1, evaluate sounds better
No
at least it didn't happen to me
How long did it last?
14:54
Perhaps 15 mins?
What about pain?
It depends a lot
I gathered
my intestine is very convoluted so it hurt quite a lot
What's the pain level compared to?
14:55
but again it's not like it's unbearable
hmm
Ell
Ell
@Jefffrey probably about the same level as having a camera shoved up your butt
hard to compare
That's not a good sign
@Ell that's not actually what hurts most
what hurts is when they blow air inside of you to straighten the way
What hurts the most?
Ell
Ell
14:56
ouch >.<
Also preparation isn't nice
Ell
Ell
no eating for a few days?
You have to drink this disgusting salted water that makes you insta-evacuate
@Ell Woah what
Ell
Ell
or you take some extreme laxative I suppose
14:57
rip
@Ell Few days, no...
Fuck me
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I think just the day before
Xeo
Xeo
@Jefffrey They will.
@Jefffrey It'll be ok, don't worry
Xeo
Xeo
14:57
Hope you like it in the butt.
@Jefffrey That's more or less what's gonna happen.
I have a colonoscopy in a couple of weeks
You'll survive it just fine
@Xeo Oh you...
There's actually a 0,007% mortality rate
14:58
And about 1% complications rate (like internal bleeding and whatnot)
Xeo
Xeo
And that's exactly what you shouldn't do.
(Read up on what's coming and possible (however remote) complications)
I know
I swear I'll exercise as much as possible from then on
Ell
Ell
@Jefffrey give me a number between 0 and 100,000
15:01
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inb4 I died
Ell
Ell
You're safe :)
My number was 444,445
Wait
You meant 100'000?
Ell
Ell
sorry, I forgot that europeans use , as decimal point :P
let's try again
user406009
@Ell But you are just pulling numbers out of your ass.
Nice
Ell
Ell
15:02
@Lalaland I decided it beforehand
user406009
That has no relation to the risks of stuff getting pulled out of @Jefffrey's ass.
Ok, so from 0 to 100'000?
Ell
Ell
Yah
okay I got my number
go
Ell
Ell
my number was 404'445
15:04
It's like I'm playing the guessing game with Death
user406009
@Jefffrey The only solution is to never go outside.
And die at home of some heart disease or depression
@Xeo Your avatar is bad and you should feel bad.
Tell me about it
user406009
15:12
@CatPlusPlus Do you still have a link to that game generator? I am trying to think of a game idea.
Anyone here used a CODE keyboard?
> A student project where you generate autism any way you want.
What
> An arcade game where you challenge hats to make virtual money.
Is this for real?
Ell
Ell
@Jefffrey lol
user3790646
> A horror game where you do science on zombie nazis until you feel regret
15:14
> A turn-based strategy game where you investigate ruins with tanks.
I'd play it.
Thankfully sanity is on
user3790646
> An indie game where you share the universe with maths.
Last one
> An experimental game where you fatten game designers by changing the physical properties of things.
user1804599
> A simulation game where you grow police stations ad infinitum.
Ven
Ven
15:18
@Elyse are you patient enough?
user1804599
no
Ven
Ven
I'm not sure you'll get to page 200
@Griwes Geography isn't my best
user1804599
> A puzzle game where you solve puzzles involving hats by answering questions.
> An FPS where you burn gorillas in China.
That's it boys, we're done here.
user1804599
15:22
> An FPS where you poison jazz singers and it never ends.
user1804599
This is awesome.
Hmm... Windows Defender in Win10 thinks that Intel's hardware emulator is a trojan.
massive fail
user406009
@Mysticial To be fair, both probably use similar techniques of runtime code generation.
Disable Windows Defender
@Lalaland Exactly.
15:29
Well. Emulating hardware does make one think of emulating big hardware gifts
@набиячлэвэлиь That's one of the things on my to-do list. It's another one of those mini-fights you need to have with the OS, since MS does everything it can to prevent you from disabling it.
@Mysticial Nothing a bit of registry magic can't solve!
@набиячлэвэлиь That what I'm probably gonna need to do since I don't have Group Policy on this version.
@Mysticial Registry ≫ Group Policy
user406009
The task of detecting malware and trojans is really hard to do properly.
15:31
@набиячлэвэлиь I heard there are some things Group Policy can do which you can't in the registry. I have no idea how true that is.
user406009
There really isn't that much difference between "evil" and "normal" software most of the time.
For example, I'm trying to turn on SeLockMemoryPrivilege.
I usually do that through Group Policy. But since it's a security thing, I heard you can't through the registry.
I haven't tried yet. It's still pretty far down my to-do list.
user406009
@Mysticial For interest's sake, what are you trying to emulate?
user406009
Android?
jesus christ Spark is such a piece of shit
15:35
@Lalaland Knights Landing, Skylake Purley, and Cannonlake
A job requires 8 cores and 8GB RAM
user406009
@Mysticial Oh, other x86 CPUs. Interesting.
Cluster is literally free, 48 cores and 45.5GB free
3 workers and each can fit the entire job just fine
> 2015-11-12 16:34:47 WARN TaskSchedulerImpl:71 - Initial job has not accepted any resources; check your cluster UI to ensure that workers are registered and have sufficient resources
SeLockMemoryPrivilege isn't needed for the emulator, but I need it for other (unrelated) stuff.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking hell
@Elyse Yeah, it's not like pixel density has changed
user406009
@Jefffrey The problem is that modern mobile screen DPIs are closely reaching (and probably even past) the limits of human perception.
@Lalaland That's how I've been testing AVX512 stuff for the past year.
Yeah, and the original iPhone had a terrible resolution
user406009
If a pixel lights up but no one can see it, does it produce any light?
Ell
Ell
15:39
@Lalaland yeah it's pretty pointless imho
@Lalaland the answer is in the premise
So that post is stupidly misleading
user406009
@Mysticial But don't you lose the ability to reliably tell performance once you start emulating?
user406009
And the purpose of the AVX512 instruction set is additional performance ...
> A god game where you raise helicopters in China.
Ell
Ell
@Jefffrey why is it misleading?
15:41
@Lalaland I'm not testing for performance yet. Just testing for correctness.
Obviously I can't test performance until I get the real hardware = which is still a year away at least.
> Who's a good helicopter? You are!
And a job that takes way more resources runs immediately because
Another day without doing much productive stuff!
Yay
Aaaaaaaaa
Fucking idiots writing broken bullshit
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> A shooting game where you kill space people because, I mean, why the hell not.
15:43
Although, at this point, it's totally possible to make reasonable guesses at the performance even without the hardware.
ayyyyyyyyy
@Ell Because it shows that the iphone screen can stay between the two app icons
@Griwes inb4 Halo
inb4 Mass effect
Which is blatantly not true
@набиячлэвэлиь inb4 Texans in Space
15:44
@Griwes inb4 virtually every shooter with space in it
user406009
@Griwes There actually aren't that many shootings going on in Texas.
And when the cluster is almost fully used, THEN it can fucking assign resources
I DONT GET IT
guys tmp question
user406009
I think Chicago wins the prize of the most deaths by bullets.
Here's another way of looking at it. Original iPhone screen in the empty space between the apps on the iPad Pro. https://t.co/MwVLiwp8cL
It's not even subtle
15:45
func<param> is an expression
func<param>::type yields the actual result ie typeid of this shit == what you expect to see
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Xeo
@Mr.kbok It's a type, actually.
@Xeo I know but it's not a useful word in tmp
Ell
Ell
@Jefffrey it shows that what was displayed can fit in between
Yes, but it implies that the distance between the two is the same width of the original iPhone, which is not true.
Ell
Ell
I don't think it implies that at all
15:58
Ok
I guess I should install Haste
Yo Bartek
Have you ever done a colonoscopy?

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