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5:00 PM
once you get so high in one specific area there aren't enough knowledgeable people
so you may be as well an expert there
 
@milleniumbug Umm...so you're thinking that didn't happen 5 years ago?
 
@JerryCoffin dunno, not sure what happened 5 years ago :P
> Member for 4 years
 
@milleniumbug its already hapening
 
Hi guys, I'm getting some heap corruption while trying to update a CString& in a function passed as parameter. I assume I'm ending up referring the param to a local variable.
 
use Valgr... oh wait, Windows
 
5:08 PM
Ayyyyyyyyyyyy!
 
well you're screwed
 
Hello
@milleniumbug Dr. Memory advertises itself as Valgrind for Windows
@a4anurag GTFO with codedump
 
1 message moved to bin
 
@JerryCoffin Cheers
 
5:09 PM
It seems to be some silly issue. I though I'd as here..
 
@a4anurag If you want people to look at code, please put it somewhere else, and post a link here (and be prepared for the fact that quite a few probably won't look).
 
@TonyTheLion Yay, now do the same thing for Assange.
 
@a4anurag you’d know what you did wrong if you had read the rules
 
loungecpp.net/the-law/the-rules says I can post code if its not long..
 
5:10 PM
@TonyTheLion "recognition of his status as whistle-blower" -- is he my PE teacher or summat?
 
@a4anurag The issue has to be sufficiently interesting for anyone to care though
 
@a4anurag law abuse, criminal charges
 
@a4anurag no it doesn’t
 
@Morwenn post it here
 
I'm sorry if I misunderstood..
 
5:11 PM
@Morwenn I don't wanna work on my work and I have something to do later here so I can't go home
 
@Mr.kbok Well, it would be a 100+ lines code dump...
 
@Morwenn Do it
Well, on Coliru
But do it
 
Is it a sorting network?
 
@a4anurag You can--sometimes. If you pick a time when it's not very busy, posting code here isn't frowned up nearly as heavily. This time of day...not so much.
 
5:13 PM
And it would take a bit of time to explain what it does ._____.
 
CLion unusable for 5k LOC+ :-\
 
@Morwenn use gist!
 
@bluefog Exactly, one that doesn't work for reasons.
 
@Mr.kbok use coliru!
 
@JerryCoffin I understand..
 
5:13 PM
@Morwenn Apply some hand-picked UB until it works
 
@Morwenn Put it on coliru (or whatever) and post a link here.
 
Or just randomly edit the machine code output
@a4anurag At line seven you assign a return value of std::string::c_str(), which gets invalidated at the end of scope
 
@AnalPhabet I keep a small block of radioactive material around to assure it's random.
 
@JerryCoffin Poke it with small magnets
 
So, basically: this sorting network of size 28 doesn't work and I have no idea why.
The logic is simple: sort both halves of the array, then recursively odd-even merge everything.
 
5:17 PM
@AnalPhabet but it's passed to CString constructor which probably copies the NTS
 
@JerryCoffin there are much cheaper ways of getting randomness: you can, for instance, ask telkitty about finance
21
 
@milleniumbug does it
 
It seems that my odd-even merge doesn't work for reasons, but I was unable to find why.
 
While debugging it did called operator=
 
@AnalPhabet probably, MS says yes
 
5:19 PM
@Morwenn oh, there's your problem: this is crazy
 
@Mr.kbok I got it from old smoke detectors for free.
 
@Morwenn Will you be using them as a base case for your sorts?
 
@JerryCoffin they are radioactive?
 
@Mr.kbok Hey, I managed to get a working sorting network using a custom merge network :o
@bluefog Nope, it's only worth it with small integers and only works with random-access iterators.
 
@Mr.kbok Yes, using Alpha radiation
Smoke blocks it -> alarm goes off
 
5:21 PM
they have Americium
 
user1804599
Hi. :)
 
@Elyse ): .iH
 
@Morwenn o.o are those like neural networks?
<--- i know nothing
 
user1804599
I figured need something like Sawzall but with custom aggregators.
 
@Borgleader No, sorting networks :p
 
5:22 PM
@Mr.kbok Yes, most are. Virtually all of them use a tiny chip of Americurium.
 
user1804599
Guess I'll build something on top of Lua with ZeroMQ.
 
@Borgleader no
 
@Borgleader <3 <3
 
user1804599
Well actually Tcl would be very nice since Tcl values are laughably easy to serialize (since they're all just strings).
 
user1804599
And Tcl might have a larger standard library?
 
5:23 PM
@TonyTheLion <3 <3
@Morwenn i ... i have no idea what that is -.-;
 
@JerryCoffin And to think I paid for my bananas :(
 
@Morwenn How does it not work? Is the output completely random, or are parts sorted and other parts not, or it causes segfaults, or what?
 
@Borgleader Fixed-sized sorting algorithms that are data-independent. Every compare-exchange is sett in stone before the algorithm is run. It allows to implement them in hardware.
 
@LucDanton If you look around a little, you can get old bananas for free too.
 
iow it's branchless
 
5:25 PM
@JerryCoffin The input is totally random. The output seems to be partly sorted. In the end, the elements are never far from where they should be.
 
@Morwenn Run a quicksort/bubblesort on the output and be done
 
@AnalPhabet Lowl.
 
@AnalPhabet If they're close to where they should be, you'd want insertion sort.
 
@JerryCoffin Funnily enough, the first thing I was gonna type was "introsort"
But I decided to suggest something worse
 
@AnalPhabet "quicksort/bubblesort" lol
 
user1804599
5:28 PM
it bubbles quickly
 
Anyway, it seems that I have to go for now. I guess that I would only be wasying my time asking the question on SO. See you later :p
 
@milleniumbug _-_
 
@AnalPhabet In this case, introsort would probably be worse than quicksort--it would almost certainly use the quicksort path, but do extra work to keep track of recursion depth.
 
Got normal Firefox and DevEd theme. win-win
@JerryCoffin oh
 
Wait
 
5:31 PM
Did we, now
 
You guys told me that in your country you mainly have movies in their original language
 
depends
 
Sometimes with subtitles
 
full dubbing is quite rare
 
What do you mean with "full dubbing"?
 
5:32 PM
Subtitles are annoying on English films, though
 
As opposed to?
 
@Jefffrey deep, echoing voice FULL DUBBING!
 
@Jefffrey as opposed to having a single voice track with translated dialogs
 
By single voice track you mean?
Like a single subject in the movie?
 
@Jefffrey 1 (one) thing, where thing=voice track
 
5:34 PM
on the existing audio track you layer translated audio
where there's only one person translating
 
@milleniumbug So bad, yet so popular
 
all the voices
 
riiiiiiip so much
 
lol
never seen anything like it
Where do you live again @milleniumbug?
 
It's actually quite popular in Poland
 
5:35 PM
Poland
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Damn you look good.
 
One of the few contries that does this
 
@JohanLarsson recommended your plugin to coworkers sharing my pain, I'm really happy with it man
you just can't permanently disable that XAML shit
I've made it a habit to kill the process after every build when I work with XAMLs
 
nice
there is a kill and rebuild button
did not add a kill and build
 
5:37 PM
@Jefffrey here's an example (random movie I found by googling "film lektor")
 
@milleniumbug Dear lord
It's like the worst of all worlds
 
user406009
@Jefffrey is that for anime?
 
The map?
 
user406009
Yeah.
 
Dubbing, mixing, or re-recording is a post-production process used in filmmaking and video production in which additional or supplementary recordings are "mixed" with original production sound to create the finished soundtrack. The process usually takes place on a dub stage. After sound editors edit and prepare all necessary tracks (dialogue, automated dialogue replacement (ADR), effects, Foley, and music), the dubbing mixer or mixers proceed to balance all of the elements and record the finished soundtrack. Dubbing is sometimes confused with ADR, also known as "additional dialogue replacement...
 
user406009
5:39 PM
Oh, its just dubbing in general.
 
translate A into a butt
 
@Jefffrey here most movies aired on TV is "dubbed" this way, in the cinema it's mostly subbed.
full dubbing is quite rare, mostly with movies for children
 
@milleniumbug Thing is: how is this video not taken down already
 
@Mr.kbok We don't need that, we already got @CatPlusPlus
 
@milleniumbug However much sense that makes
 
5:42 PM
@Mr.kbok could e a scrotum
 
Oh, fun! Loading YT bluescreened me again!
~~~​**fun**​~~~
 
@milleniumbug I love that stuff
it’s like you have your friend next to you translating on the fly while you watch
 
> >it's like you have a friend
 
@JohanLarsson But upside down
Actually, it does more look like a set of balls than a butt
 
@AnalPhabet your words, my friend
 
5:43 PM
yes, it happens
 
@LucDanton Suuure.
 
@milleniumbug And it's not super-annoying at all!
 
Another problem is that there are three people (as far as I remember) that do this "dubbing", so in very short time you'll remember them all
 
@AnalPhabet Exactly!
 
@LucDanton /sarcasm
@ScottW No, but it looks hella cool
 
5:48 PM
So, all the movies have the same voice laid over (unless you get Tomasz Knapik to do it, which is quite rare)
 
@milleniumbug #SadTruth
Another fun thing: starting CoD:UO crashes both itself and Firefox!
 
@ScottW it works pretty well, but the constraints are usually not worth it
 
user406009
Eh, subs always have much higher quality voice acting.
 
also code generation sucks period
 
> sucks period
 
5:54 PM
intentional.
 
ITT code generation is a vampire
 
user406009
@Mr.kbok Well, theoretically, once the reflection proposal comes through ...
 
@Lalaland yeah! even with my lib you can do almost similar things. the only thing that you reaaaaaly can't implement as a library is identifier
 
> Well, theoretically, never ...
 
5:56 PM
must resist clicking link
Punishable by: bluescreen
 
user406009
@StackedCrooked Your GPU has a bunch of cores though.
 
I wonder how many mine has.
 
user406009
And a large server system with multiple sockets and 8 cores per socket ...
 
I don't think it adds up to 500k.
I suppose his definition of "large system" differs from mine.
 
user406009
Still, it does look like we will be staying on 4 cores for consumers for quite a while.
 
user406009
6:00 PM
Multi threading most programs is still a bad tradeoff until we get more cores.
 
@StackedCrooked Bill Gropp, he was one of my profs.
 
Oh. Cool.
 
All too familiar voice.
 
It says William Gropp though.
 
We just call him Bill Gropp.
When talking about him.
 
6:01 PM
Ah :)
 
Of course we say Professor Gropp when talking to him.
 
user406009
Does anyone know of any decentralized consensus algorithms other than the one Bitcoin uses?
 
Paxos is a family of protocols for solving consensus in a network of unreliable processors. Consensus is the process of agreeing on one result among a group of participants. This problem becomes difficult when the participants or their communication medium may experience failures. Consensus protocols are the basis for the state machine replication approach to distributed computing, as suggested by Leslie Lamport and surveyed by Fred B. Schneider. State machine replication is a technique for converting an algorithm into a fault-tolerant, distributed implementation. Ad-hoc techniques may leav...
 
user406009
Running into a wall here and Bitcoin's proof of work method is very expensive.
 
user406009
Does Paxos work even when there are bad actors?
 
user406009
6:07 PM
Darn.
 
user406009
> Processors do not collude, lie, or otherwise attempt to subvert the protocol.
 
@Morwenn o.o that... that seems odd
 
user1804599
@Lalaland Byzantine Paxos
 
user1804599
Also don't implement Paxos yourself. It's too complex. Use an existing implementation.
 
user406009
Thanks. I'll look into that.
 
6:19 PM
@ScottW No, I'm not gonna murder those jews
 
@ScottW du riechst so gut
 
@Xeo answer truthfully why is there no nekopara anime
 
Xeo
dunno
 
user1804599
@Xeo hi!
 
thou hath spokeneth the truth
such things are unknown to humans
 
Ell
6:26 PM
meh I'm not a fan of this haskell assignment
 
How do you fuck someone's life? Where's the hole?
 
Ell
implementing length in terms of foldr is so stupid :V
 
@Jefffrey ass?
 
@Ell It's beautiful
 
@Ell how would you implement it
 
Ell
6:28 PM
shh don't tell me the answer
I'll be done for plaigerism
 
user406009
foldl' is better anyways.
 
Woops
Sorry
 
Ell
:3 it's okay
 
what's const
 
Ell
thanks though :P
@milleniumbug It's a c++ thing which err
 
6:29 PM
it's probably an exercise to learn how folding works or sth :A
 
Ell
mean constness n that
@AlexM. yeah it is
 
@milleniumbug a -> b -> b
 
there would be not much point in doing
len [] = 0
len (_:t) = 1 + len t
 
it basically ignores the first argument and always return the second
 
Haskell wiki says const :: a -> b -> a Constant function.
Which is useless as fuck
 
6:30 PM
Or the other way around I guess
 
Ell
it's not uselss
 
@milleniumbug It actually comes up more often than you think
 
I mean, the documentation is useless
 
user406009
:26575897 This is wrong.
 
Ok, sorry
 
6:31 PM
@AlexM. Yup--right up there with the "create a queue from two stacks" that's constantly used in beginning algorithms courses.
 
I haven't done Haskell in a while
 
user406009
The const is incorrect in this case. I think you were thinking of the map and then sum solution.
 
hahah
 
user1804599
@milleniumbug it's a function that takes a value X and returns a function that always returns X
 
user406009
6:32 PM
Which is sum $ map (const (+1)) list
 
euphemism sounds like european feminism
 
Ell
@Lalaland It's not wrong
why is it wrong?
 
user406009
The const is incorrect.
 
user1804599
It's the only possible implementation of a -> b -> a. See ttic.uchicago.edu/~dreyer/course/papers/wadler.pdf.
 
Ell
try it out
 
6:33 PM
@Elyse Thanks. Now why this isn't mentioned in the docs?
 
I'm downloading GHC
 
> posted 44 minutes ago
720 comments
^ reddit when the underdog upsets the favorites to win the CS GO tournament
 
user406009
Oops, I was wrong. The const was correct.
 
I wonder what makes people comment after a number of comments are already in
 
@milleniumbug Whoever wrote the docs probably felt the type was enough.
 
6:35 PM
like if I add a comment now, it will be #721
 
@Ell Does it work?
 
it'll be so far back that nobody will ever see it
 
@AlexM. It's called "Hide & Seek"
It's a game you play with your coworkers
Why have I ever listened to bartek when he told me not to install the Haskell Platform
How do I even have cabal installed but not GHC
What's the purpose of life
 
@Jefffrey Life is its own purpose.
 
user406009
@Jefffrey To die well.
 
6:37 PM
No, the purpose of life is to eat good things
And drink
 
I got a nice 15 eur thanks to cs today
 
@AlexM. How?
 
while watching there are special crates dropping and you can sell the cobblestone crates for 15+ eur (not sure what the price is now)
and just at the right time there's a halloween sale on steam, free games
 
Dropping where
On yer head?
 
@AlexM. games is innocent!
 
6:39 PM
@LucDanton kek
 
@Ell Wait, Haskell assignment? Like in uni?
 
@Jefffrey Surely having sex is at least part of the point.
 
user406009
In truth, I think the purpose of life is to have fun.
 
user406009
Whatever gives you pleasure is your own life purpose.
 
I love 0xc0000005 Access Violations
 
6:47 PM
@Lalaland Makes sense
 
user406009
The main other argument I usually hear is that the purpose of life is to leave a legacy.
 
user406009
Screw that.
 
@AlexM. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck :( why do i miss out on all the good stuff T_T
 
hi
 
@AnalPhabet Surely beats the machine crashing...
 
6:51 PM
@Borgleader it's not like you have to do anything special, just watch the games on twitch
 
@JerryCoffin It's an OGL thing
For whatever reason, when I did Minecraft modding, it'd crash with 0xc0000005 Access Violation every second time
 
user1804599
@milleniumbug that's not a wiki btw
 
user1804599
that's Haddock
 
(with the steam account linked)
 
Xeo
nom nom bacon weave
 
user1804599
7:05 PM
> Awesome discussion about how we can get more women working on compilers
 
@AnalPhabet I'd blame it on Java (and Minecraft being written in Java even makes that semi-credible).
 
@Elyse laffo
 
user1804599
@milleniumbug Chandler tweeted that.
 
@Elyse Whatever "Chandler" is
 
why'd the rust circlejerk on reddit die out
 
user1804599
7:11 PM
 
@AnalPhabet Chandler Carruth, presumably.
 
@AnalPhabet no, that's not misspelled "Handler"
 
I remember when anything rust related would get like 1500 upvotes
now they barely get 100
 
user1804599
Sep 5 '13 at 22:06, by not-rightfold
@sehe what is chandler?
 
user1804599
Oct 29 '12 at 18:44, by Xeo
And wtf "fat guy"
 
7:12 PM
@Rapptz Too stable for them
 
user1804599
Is there a Perl/Ruby/Python-like language of which the implementation is actually not fucking terrible at concurrency? I.e. has green threads, parallelism and no GIL.
 
lua coroutines are okay I guess?
nothing amazing or anything
 
user1804599
Lua has two killer features: proper coroutines and proper tail call optimisation.
 
user1804599
OTOH has a standard library as small as the reciprocal of your mom.
 
I always just consider lua as a high level wrapper around C lol
not exactly right or anything but :v
 
user1804599
7:17 PM
Also lacks parallelism, which is a turn-off.
 
so doesn't turn elyse on
 
@AnalPhabet something that handles C
 
@AndyProwl nice
 
personally I don't consider Lua to be very high level at all
 
@jaggedSpire plsno takeh mah soul
 
7:26 PM
Yay, YT no longer bluescreens me
 
@AlexM. Yeah... cant really watch twitch at work
 
blocked?
it's really awkward when I see videos like this
 
@AlexM. not blocked, but i have stuff to do, they dont pay me to watch CS
 
(the championship takes place in my city)
 
@ThePhD <3 Where were you I missed you <3
 
7:32 PM
@Borgleader leave it running in the background you singleton
I see all those places that I know and I've been in
 
Evening
 
@Xeo do your cats do this imgur.com/DSCFO9B.gif
 
chuuuuu
 
Xeo
nope, they don't clean eachother (as far as I can see, anyways)
 
@AlexM. mine did
so
I feel burnt out kinda
 
7:41 PM
also dat instant fight
 
I don't feel like coding things
 
@BartekBanachewicz I wonder what they whispered to each other while licking
"I think Haskell is a pretty lame language"
fight ensues
 
I think it's because I actually did work at work today
I wrote a bash script to move our code out of svn and do all things
and moved it and sketched our git flow and
dunno I just don't feel like making things today
 
Xeo
I did tons of stupid repetitive stuff with controller input handling in menus today...
 
I did a lot of GUI work today :<
 
7:45 PM
@Xeo Sounds like a day of nightmare
 
user1804599
What is the benefit of Boost big number library vs GMP's C++ interface?
 
Xeo
It's okay-ish
 
user1804599
The former uses the latter.
 
Xeo
It feels good to see the controller handling in action
also, I've been at work around 8am for the past three days. Also skipping lunch. Feels nice to go home an hour before everyon else
or 4 days? ... I can't actually remember
 
user1804599
using value = boost::variant<
    bool,
    std::function<value const*(value const* const*, value const* const*)>
>;
 
user1804599
7:54 PM
how do you do this kind of thing?
 
what kind of thing?
 
Wait no I suck
5
 
user1804599
w/e
 

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