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user1804599
9:01 AM
Another jam?
 
user1804599
Noooooo.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I promised to do a chess game :/
@sehe I was afraid you would ask for my worn undies... ok gimme your home address man sob. — patlecat 34 secs ago
 
user1804599
@sehe kekwot
 
@sehe like, with AI? :O
@rightfold you don't have to participate, no one is forcing you.
 
@BartekBanachewicz well, technically any chess game that can play autonomously has AI (or AD) to some degree
 
user1804599
9:04 AM
@BartekBanachewicz phew
 
@sehe yeah well you could mean just a board with rules verification or something
I think that for a heuristic exercise Go might be a funnier and easier thing to write.
You simply build rough influence maps and act based on their position.
 
I intended it to make learning playing chess easier (as it could be more fun beating the machine since it would be slightly dumber). Also, making the machine at the same time would be fun in itself
 
user1804599
Pim-pam-pet verifier is fun.
 
I don't speak Go
 
It's very easy, much easier than Chess.
And in basic play relies more on intuition rather than strict rule-knowing and memorized patterns and prediction of opponent moves.
 
user1804599
9:08 AM
Write a curling AI.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Ah. Sounds like a game I'd hate
 
@sehe Oh, why specifically?
 
I must admit that I hate "advanced chess" for similar reasons. I like chess, in essence. But I'm opposed to memorizing shit
@BartekBanachewicz It's more fun if I can "oversee" the problem domain. If it's so ... tactical or intricate that one must rely on heuristics from the early stages, then it's too much like gambling for me.
Maybe I'm not good at games. I'm not even particularly fond of rummikub/yahtzee for similar reasons, but then again, those become more about being creative than about control.
 
Go has an a big tactical aspect, and that's indeed the most of the game for beginners.
When you progress you start also utilizing (whole-map) strategy.
 
@sehe This is why I don't do sudoku past certain levels of difficulty.
 
9:12 AM
like, you can't fit much strategy here ^
compared to that.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It seems to me that the stocks of "chips" there are rather excessive
 
@sehe These are the counts needed for 19x19 play, so indeed.
 
Oh, and chess is much more visually appealing. It naturally leans more to story telling. I guess that's also a part of it
 
If I want storytelling I play Descent.
Chess is too tryhard for that attitude most of the time, at least IME.
 
what is up with that logo
 
user1804599
9:16 AM
@sehe "Switch to Chrome?"
 
lol
 
@sehe ouch
 
@rightfold it is in chrome: race.assassinscreedpirates.com (webgl demo game)
 
@sehe My set came with one stone for each point on the board.
 
user1804599
So they want me to downgrade to IE and to Windows?
 
user1804599
9:17 AM
Baka.
 
@sehe storytelling! :D
 
Ven
FUCK CHROME.
 
@sehe it was made to showcase WebGL finally being in IE I think
 
Ven
Fuck their new extensions policy
rages
 
user1804599
@Ven Right. Chromium ftw.
 
9:18 AM
@Ven wut?
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz They disabled the ability to install non-webstore chrome extensions.
Fuck them.
 
I don't think I use any
 
Ven
I use mines
 
user1804599
Mines are dangerous.
 
user1804599
So it's a good thing.
 
Ven
9:19 AM
rightflod pls
 
@Ven Ah, the old bait-and-switch.
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz also, some softwares come with their extensions and they got disabled with this
 
ok
flodded right
 
morning
 
user1804599
Fork Chromium and remove the restriction.
 
Ven
9:23 AM
I just updated ffox
 
@DeadMG: blimey
@Ven I can't use "More Stars" any more :(
 
user1804599
I can just install non-web store extensions without problems.
 
user1804599
And after restarting Chromium they're still there.
 
Ven
is chrome's icon green :) ?
 
user1804599
There is no Chrome icon.
 
Ven
9:26 AM
the menu icon
 
user1804599
No, it's never been coloured.
 
user1804599
> Version 33.0.1750.146 (254388)
 
Ven
that maybe doesn't apply to chromium then
 
user1804599
If I want to update Chromium I have to do so via Portage.
 
user1804599
AFAIK.
 
9:28 AM
33 is very old now (lol)
 
kinda
I have 35
and 37 canary
 
Ven
Canary is the dev channel, right ?
 
yep.
I'm such a web developer.
 
Ven
well.
c++ to js, right ?
 
no
TBH I dunno what I would pick from those 2, seem equally terrible really.
 
9:34 AM
wtf you had just been to unconference & then you have decided to change your avatar?
 
@chmod711telkitty I changed it on the day I was leaving for it.
 
Xeo
Whee, power failure.
 
so the folks would recognize you when they saw you?
 
@chmod711telkitty yep.
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit still works fine :3
 
user1804599
9:39 AM
I can upgrade to Chromium 35.
 
Xeo
32
Q: Was this 4th grader's creationist quiz real?

TomOnTimeIs this 4th grader's creationist quiz real or a hoax?

2
wtf
 
Ven
RE: RE: FW: RE: FW.
skeptics layout is awful. eh.
 
user1804599
@Xeo sick
 
user1804599
Sick minds.
 
Ven
:/
 
user1804599
9:43 AM
> The average size of a dinosaur was a sheep.
 
user1804599
I knew Americans used silly units of measurement, but "sheep" is beyond silliness.
 
I think 'pinch' was a well known word for the gesture of bringing thumb and forefinger together before Apple thought of it. — Frank 19 hours ago
@Frank although I'd agree in a pinch, sadly I would not rule out Apple patenting this innovation :) — sehe 12 secs ago
@rightfold I prefer "behemoths" too
@Xeo that's old
 
Ven
@sehe hence the "RE: RE: FW: RE: FW."
 
Ah
 
Xeo
Didn't see it before, so vOv
 
9:52 AM
Gonna head for xeobar/Amadee later. They have wifi and I'm going to try playing the club lotto over skype. I suspect that latency could cost me a win:(
 
user1804599
@Xeo I like the stopavn.com ad on that page. :)
 
I knew about blind dating, speed dating, internet dating, but I should try radiometric dating
 
Is there any quality standard for which I should work towards compliance beyond ISO/IEC 25010?
 
user1804599
@sehe My father, as a geologist, is really into that. He does it a lot.
 
yes, better than noob quality would be good.
 
9:55 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Google Style Guide.
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you Herb?
 
boss decided that listing refs for W3C, HTTP & C++ standards counts sigh
@R.MartinhoFernandes pfft
 
@rightfold dat banner load time. Ah. And no cache control ?!
Seriously, stopavn.com/images/… is only 64k but loads at 3,99 KB/s. Where is this hosted? Direcly from clay tablets?!
 
> We do not use C++ exceptions.
 
> We use C++. No exceptions!
Delightful ambiguity
 
user1804599
9:57 AM
@sehe Contact them, problem solved.
 
Nah
 
user1804599
No complaints then!
 
Also, Skeptics take truth directly from the horses gaffes mouth:
 
user1804599
> Bindend leesadvies
 
user1804599
lol
 
9:59 AM
I don't use C++ exceptions 'cos my pitifully small embedded stacks cannae take it.
 
Ven
get me a stack trace :^)
 
@rightfold your boss has style :)
 
user1804599
@sehe It's not from my boss.
 
user1804599
> Dommerdje. Zo noemde gezaghebbend parlementair journalist Paul Jansen de GroenLinks-akela Linda Voortman gisteren in zijn vernietigende column in de Telegraaf. Bindend leesadvies want tout doorgeleerd Den Haag wordt loeiraak en terecht voor oliedomme onderpresterende prutsende nikskunnende stumpers uitgemaakt.
 
10:01 AM
oh well, it was worth the guess to make it more unfunny
 
@MartinJames What are you doing here? Go back to the biergarten!
 
@sehe ahhhhhhhhhhhhh that was a nice blast from the past!
(genuinely enjoyed that)
 
I reckon their hosting might be really expensive.
Slow hosting is hard to come by these days
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's not Oktober yet
 
As it happens, I am sitting outside at a bar nr. Stadtmitte. Weitzen is fine:)
 
Ah. You're deserting to the Germans
 
10:04 AM
Only till Friday.
 
@MartinJames Stand mite, you mean.
 
...whatever..:)
The point is, I an not at work. I did see one email frpm
Cu k
I HATE PHONE KEYBOARDZ!!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ? can you check? Stadtmitte at least looks more German. Standmitte, perhaps. What would Stand mite mean?
 
Xeo
It was @thecosh's way to say "Stadtmitte"
He magically made an 'n' appear in the word.
 
'Stand mite' sounds like some ho disease you get from waiting on street corners.
AKA 'Lamppost Crabs'.
 
10:16 AM
:D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D
 
@Xeo totally explains. God. How could I have missed this important cultural reference
Gosh. I forgot that "suggested edits" was a thing skeptics.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/11573
 
user1804599
Weakly-typed or is so nice.
 
What. You mean, short cut evaluation with side effects?
Oh. I get it. Null-coalescing (or rather, non-truthiness-coalescing then)
 
user1804599
@sehe That.
 
user1804599
10:22 AM
Like, undefined || 40 equals 40, not true.
 
user1804599
(Fuck you, PHP.)
 
10 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
People that like Perl should be kept as far as possible from language design as a matter of public health.
 
user1804599
Perl is a great programming language.
 
> great
well well
Perl can claim a few things. But "great"? Discredits the point, TBH
 
user1804599
I have never had a moment that I used Perl and it was not fun.
 
user1804599
10:25 AM
(No ambiguity crap plix.)
 
Ambiguity isn't crap. It's delighful. And it saves you from eternal public shame here.
 
user1804599
On the Internet, I am not ashamed of what I like.
 
hello folkes
 
user1804599
May 30 at 18:13, by rightfold
Does anyone know a good tentacle porn blog on Tumblr?
 
Per meta.english.stackexchange.com/a/364 for the use–mention distinction, please use an italic face not a bold one. It makes the page look too heavy otherwise, and furthermore runs counter to typographic convention both on this site and in scholarly works. — tchrist 15 hours ago
Woot. critters aren't pedantic at all
@rightfold Bruce Schneier's Friday Squid posts could help you in the mean time
 
Xeo
10:28 AM
@rightfold AS3 has it too: someVar ||= new Stuff();
 
user1804599
@Xeo cuuuul ||=.
 
user1804599
$scope.questions
|> map (.x)
|> maximum |> (or 40)
 
user1804599
Hello, Greek Fellows. :|
 
user1804599
em is always relative to font-size of the current element (except when using the unit on font-size itself, then it is relative to parent's font-size). % is relative to the parent's value of the specific property (width: x%; means: take x percent of the parent's width). — Harmen Mar 10 '13 at 19:47
 
user1804599
10:38 AM
TIL.
 
@rightfold is or 40 for empty set?
@rightfold in a way that Brainfuck is, I guess.
 
not bad
 
why is this a text in image form
 
take three guesses
 
because it was originally written on somebody's arse?
 
10:47 AM
There is ominous winds and rumblings. Nothing to do with last night' tacos:(
 
1
Q: Is the C++ code converted to C during the compilation process?

achedeuzotI have read that the original implementation of C++ by Bjarne Stroustrup was using a compiler named Cfront that converted C++ to C during the compilation process. Is this still the case with modern compilers ? I couldn't find a good answer using Google (or I couldn't find the right search terms).

 
> continue;
> 1> c:\code\wide\wide\semantic\userdefinedtype.cpp(370): fatal error C1001: An internal error has occurred in the compiler.
1> (compiler file 'f:\dd\vctools\compiler\utc\src\p2\main.c', line 227)
1> To work around this problem, try simplifying or changing the program near the locations listed above.
it's a continue you blind bat.
 
This will be fun
 
what the fuck is "unmantenable"?
 
lol, I was looking for "unmaintainable"
 
10:54 AM
untenable and unmaintainable are two totally different things, you idiot.
 
lol
 
user1804599
Cup-a-Soup, beh.
 
user1804599
Pizza Quatro Stagioni flavour.
 
> "calling people idiots every 10 seconds is retarded"
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz maximum [] == undefined
 
user1804599
10:58 AM
And (or 40) undefined == 40.
 
user1804599
Well, this "soup" does smell like pizza.
 

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