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12:01 AM
@ScottW No big mountains but you got the red river gorge in KY
 
yeah, climb that water
I have a colleague always climbing mountains and stuff
one of her friends died smashing his head on a rock
she still climbs mountains
I'll never get people like that
 
@AlexM. Every one knows someone that got injured climbing, I also know people that have gotten into car accidents and I still drive
 
but I can't exactly tell why
 
However, as a sport it is relatively safe, but the price of a mistake can be your life
Because its there
 
for some reason that comparison seems weird
last two messages should have been swapped, and I should change this goddamn router
 
12:06 AM
@ScottW You are driving a machine with enormous kinetic energy, unless you stick to 20MPH a catastrophic failure or mistake on your part is basically death or major injury
 
um, no
 
At least in climbing, the vast majority of the time you are relying only on your abilities
not on your gear
 
if that were true, most people involved in car accidents would be dead
 
@AlexM. The vast majority of accidents do not happen at highway speed
 
> unless you stick to 20MPH
 
12:07 AM
A testament to the quality of our road infrastructure
I was being facetious, I mean not go incredibly fast
Take a country like india where the traffi fatalities are through the roof
@ScottW Thats a subjective phillosophical distinction
 
it's easier to survive by being taken in critical state to a hospital from a car accident
because you can be taken to the hospital fast enough
 
@AlexM. It depends where you are
many climbers survive injuries and accidents
I personally have participated in a heli rescue out in the woods
 
I'm a hang glider pilot. I feel safer flying than driving.
 
@ScottW If I chose not to climb, it would have a major effect on my life and would force me to reevaluate all my activities
Its the only thing that I can do consistently and keep enjoying it
it also teaches you, a lot
Of course, but I wouldn't be happy about it
 
shrug
I guess different people like different things
 
12:11 AM
Indeed
I don't suggest that everyone should climb
I do think that everyone should spend at least some portion of every year outdoors
as in for longer than a few hours
 
but to like something that could kill you so easily
 
backpacking, camping, etc.
I will rephrase
 
I dunno
I'd rather like things for which I'd like to live longer
 
@AlexM. Unless you're talking about free climbing, is climbing all that dangerous?
 
I think that while climbing is not for everyone, I think that everyone can benefit immensely from outdoor experiences of all types. And that it should be encouraged in society much more than (organized) sports
 
12:12 AM
and wouldn't stop me from doing so
 
@Chimera technical term is free solo, most people "free" climb
free just means you use your body and not tools/ladders/gear to ascend
Rope only for safety
 
@Chimera I just can't answer that without you giving me the "it's less dangerous than walking near a road, statistically"
all I say is that it's a danger that could be easily avoided
you can't easily avoid going out to... buy things
 
@crasic ok... got it.
 
even if you like climbing
you're still adding unnecessary dangerous situations to your life by doing it
 
@AlexM. I guess "living" means different things to each of us.
 
12:15 AM
Risk without reward is stupid
meaning that many people derive a significant personal reward from climbing
Very few, if any, climbers are out there because of a death wish or risk-blindness
 
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@Chimera I'd rather keep my life for as long as possible, so I avoid any extra dangers
 
bear this pain with me
it hurts to look at it.
 
hard coded paths should be grounds for murder
 
do you feel the pain?
:D
 
12:18 AM
Hello
I think that code deserves a star.
 
:D
meet my uni sample code.
 
@AlexM. My point exactly. To you avoiding danger is living, to others not participating in a sport they enjoy to avoid risk is not living life to it's fullest.
 
Please tell me it's "C++".
 
I've really no idea what it is.
I am just waiting for the flamethrower to heat up.
Do you think I should post it to Code Review? :)
 
@Chimera that's what I said too
different people like different things
@BartekBanachewicz yes
 
12:19 AM
@BartekBanachewicz It's going to be a chimera. It's going to effect everyone and spread.
I think you should do it.
 
I think they would skin me alive
 
Blood is awesome.
@Chimera That needs way more commas to be comprehensible to someone that just got here.
 
@AlexM. Lots of philosophy and literary fiction has been written on the subject , climbing is only one way to experience the outdoors, but I think everyone should experience the outdoors, regularly, in some manner that appeals to them, in order to understand its immense worth, no activity is without risk, but personal reward is impossible to acknowledge if you are so risk averse that you refuse to even try it.
Also the community of people is just fan-fucking-tastic
Very few assholes around is worth it alone
Outdoor community
I've traveled, climbed, and hiked in many places around the world
 
guys
i know this topic is shit
but... why we don't do foo (CallableAs<ret(params)> & f)?
 
@Borgleader coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/7a35b80875c15163 I took the tedious solution, I've treated this subject at least 4 times in SO answers. Maybe you can find them... :(
 
12:27 AM
it is strangely very uniform, generally through a shared philosophy , people may be different, but at the end of the day, everyone is generally nice, welcoming, and will go out of their way to help if you get in trouble
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: bloo bloo the link was wrong anyway, bring back belgium [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [c++-faq]
 
I need to go to sleep here
 
taking std::function is bad because limiting
 
std::function is callable_as
 
yeah butt
 
12:27 AM
@Borgleader note the SPIRIT_DEBUG additions (great for understanding) and reordering in value/expression (literal would parse 3, leaving +4)
 
@sehe Woah, thanks! :D
 
@CatPlusPlus what happened to belgium?
 
I meant, is there really no way to express callable contract on the interface that won't be as bad as std::function in practice?
 
HATERS KILLED IT RIP BELGiuM
 
What if I store to std::function anyway?
I still don't get it, I think :/
 
12:29 AM
last I checked it was still around, the flemish and the french hadn't killed each other yet
 
PICS ARE LIE FIGHT THE SYSTEM
There aren't much pics because everyone is butte
Gimme mail if you're not on Slack already
 
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A: c++0x std::function as a method argument

Cat Plus Plusstd::function<void(void)> is already polymorphic, that's the whole point of it. So those two last snippets will work (as long as the functor bind returns can be called with no arguments, and returns nothing, of course), without changing what you already have.

this guy called cat plus plus answered here
 
2011, most likely terrible
 
@Chimera and you, also, know a guy who got seriously injured (last year, IIRC)
 
-1
Q: WTF? Eclipse curropted my file?

MomentumGamingI was toying around trying to spawn multiple enemies in elaborate locations, then this happened http://i.gyazo.com/bfabfb6c0cb7d2f3c827dfd3e6a66471.png wow. Wut do?

^^ bad question of the day
 
12:31 AM
NOW I HAVE TO LOGIN TO FB AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa
What is with you buttes and being afraid to post your email
 
@Mysticial Did you miss the FB one earlier?
Also anyone click the link
 
@crasic FB one?
 
@CatPlusPlus I DONT GET STD FUNCTION ALRIGHT
 
dONT READ MY ANSWERS
 
@Mysticial They all got deleted, 2 questions, 2 answers all the same person
 
12:34 AM
Link?
 
answers on unrelated questions but asking the same question
yes, getting to that
searching chat history
 
Oh wait, I think I might've seen it.
 
6 hours ago, by crasic
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The one where Bill nuked all of them?
Yeah, I saw that one. aha
 
The title is priceless
why are click and like tags?
 
12:35 AM
I've drank too much and I'm surprisingly ok.
 
Me too
 
@Mysticial hehehe you aced my comment before I could
It looks like it corrupted your title as well. — Mysticial 5 mins ago
 
@CatPlusPlus I think our liver has stopped working.
 
You guys share a liver?
 
Yes
It's p2p
 
12:41 AM
Can't actually lol in the middle of the night, but that was lol-worthy.
 
So, ISIS takes over Mosul and Tikrit
Seems this syria thing was a very bad idea after all
 
no shit
 
Years of more quagmire in iraq, and all we needed to do was let it play its course
rather than try to stack the chessboard supporting one side v other
 
@user939259 Except the first 5/6 problems, I find Rosalind to be a pretty good list of interesting problems. (People will stone/lapidate me for this, so please appreciate the effort). Best regards,
 
1:10 AM
@crasic nope
my rewards are received through very low risk activities
I have no idea how you can say you live your life to the fullest
when you're essentially not minding adding extra things which could cause you to lose it
"man I love the adrenaline rush, I feel like I'm living"
a very cheap life, if it's worth not minding losing it
that's my opinion
it's meant to balance your opinion that everyone should enjoy the outdoors
 
Outdoors life is needed, every once in a while.
 
nobody in the family ever went camping or whatever
we're still alive and kicking
 
Man, I loved camping.
 
0
Q: Just rolled over to 100K and my links to Q's and A's went to zero?

BondedDustIs this a bug or a feature? Perhaps trying to give me a Zen moment? http://meta.stackoverflow.com/users/1855677/bondeddust

^^ Somebody made it to 100k without knowing about meta.
 
@AlexM. The vast majority of outdoor activities do not have an adrenaline factor
 
1:18 AM
irrelevant
 
Its not at all
 
it was just a random and unfounded opinion, just like yours
 
There is an immense health benefit to the activities
that right there is an objective benefit that provides a non-subjective reward for the risk
 
you're still way too far from proving that everyone should enjoy the outdoors
 
Death rates go down, on average, in active populations
 
1:20 AM
And here we go with statistics.
 
you're essentially trying to tell others how to live and think there's nothing wrong with that
 
The argument is officially over. Go back to your wives and families.
 
Absolutely not
@AlexM. Should here is using a different meaning, not an imposition, but advice/suggestion
I would never impose on people, but if I knew you personally, for instance
I would invite you to the outdoors with me in any number of ways
 
DON'T GO WITH STRANGERS ALEX
 
Which I have done to numerous people
 
1:21 AM
Outdoors have bugs
 
In college I was an officer in an outdoor group
4
 
the only invitation I'd accept is to the nicest cafe in town
 
part of my volunteer job was to take complete begginers
I can do that
For instance
A short overnight backpacking trip
where the goal of the trip is to have as nice a time outside as possible
 
@CatPlusPlus and wild animals
 
people took their nicest coats
competition was to cook the nicest meal as you can
One year we dragged out an entire spit grill and roasted a pig
 
1:23 AM
we have bears and wolves in the mountains here
not to mention venomous snakes
 
I am sure there are some recreation areas with a very low instance of animals
 
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There are dogs on the streets too
 
the only kind of venomous snakes in Romania
 
A romyn
 
1:23 AM
@AlexM. lol vipers
They are not even fatal.
 
There is plenty of fantastic areas west
The swiss alps are not very far
you can even stay in a very nice hotel on the way in and out
 
@crasic No internet no food
 
@CatPlusPlus Food for a few days can be fantastic and easy to make
also light
 
:effort:
 
for the price of a trip to the swiss alps I can buy a new laptop, a new desktop and a console
 
1:25 AM
So is walking
@AlexM. Not true at all, if my trip from the united states cost signficantly less than a new laptop. And that was for a month
 
enjoying trees v.s. playing Crysis 3
I THINK THE CHOICE IS SIMPLE
 
There is more than just trees
although trees can be smoked ;)
 
There is also annoyance
And bugs
 
But that is not neccesary
Goddamn it
Are you and engineer or not? There are solutions
 
I'm sorry man, it's just not for me
 
1:27 AM
The solution is not go there
 
@crasic I'm p sure they can't.
 
if I'm somehow too tired to even take a shower I crash on the couch because I can't get in my bed without showering first
I wash my hands before doing anything
 
@AlexM. goddamn it is not agaisnt you, just the bug argument is irrelevant. There are easy, cheap solutions
 
I can't stay in a forest for longer than 10 minutes
 
Yes, so do I
 
1:28 AM
Bugs are bugs. They're there
 
Yes and bug spray is cheap and works
 
No, it doesn't
Concrete works
 
Also netting in tents
 
10m of it to be precise
 
@CatPlusPlus It does.
 
1:28 AM
why are you trying so hard to convince us to like the outdoors
it makes no sense
there's no gain for you
just stop it
 
I ain't sleeping in no tent
 
There is absolutely a gain for me
 
Building with a bed or bust
 
Outdoor: great graphics, shitty gameplay, rude npcs
 
Boring gameplay
 
1:29 AM
Ok then, but at least at this point you can admit its not about risk, but just laziness and comfort
 
you're like a Jehovah's witness
trying to convert us to some religion
 
No, I hate bugs
And spiders
Everything that has unmanageable quantities of both is no-go
 
actually this could definitely save you if you want to avoid someone
"Hello sir, do you have a few minutes to talk about the wonders of the outdoors?"
 
No its just a way of thinking that I believe leads to a more succesful society. There is no religion here, just a desire for a world that functions more efficiently and leads to an increase in the quality of life
 
if you want to increase my life's quality, give me money
 
1:32 AM
People suggest that higher education is required, this is just another type of social eduction, like art in school, but it is never taught in school
 
-3
Q: Is it acceptable to modify input parameters for local use

user467947For example, I have some code below. Which method is better, method 1 or method 2? void foo(int nInput) { /* some processing here */ int nLocal = nInput; // method 1 while(/* some condition */) { nLocal = bar(nLocal); // method 1 nInput = bar(nInput); // method 2...

party ^
 
@AlexM. how i imagined it
 
lol
 
lol
 
@Borgleader Ironically in the wilderness animals generally stays the fuck away from you, its in urban areas where you have basically completely displaced them that they begin to interact negatively
I have never had a bear steal my food, for instance
Although there are plenty of bears around
partly because there are engineered solutions
like a smell-proof bin
 
1:36 AM
I so wish AoE2 HD let you change the resolution
even the original game had multiple resolution options
how the hell did they manage to fuck things up like this
what kind of sloppy coding caused the multi-resolution option to be removed
 
Boost spirit debug output for 3 + (4 * 8); -> 7750 lines or so
 
totally random and out of nowhere: is there some extra cash that Sharapova gets for moaning like she's having sex while playing?
I mean, start this video, go to where they're playing and close your eyes
or maybe it's some way to demoralize your opponent
in any case it feels so damn unnecessary
especially since Halep doesn't make a sound most of the time
 
its her battlecry
 
I'd so "accidentally" try to smash a ball in her face if I played with her and sounded like a broken siren
 
1:45 AM
maybe that's the whole trick
I downloaded Champloo ages ago but never gave it a try
is it really as nice as people say?
 
i liked it
 
man it's been ages since I last played tennis
@Borgleader oooh, it's the soundtrack that has "aruarian dance" in it
that's one awesome track
steam's marketplace is just awesome
I mean I use it a lot
it's fun
I sell what I don't need to buy what I need
Valve are just amazing at making players make money for them
they get huge amounts from players buying player made items
it's just...
I dunno
the perfect kind of business
where you outsource product creation to your own client
and it's damn attractive, it doesn't feel unfair at all
for an artist, building some armor for dota2 and selling it on the marketplace sounds very good I'm sure
 
Gamers are addictive motherfuckers and they will buy the most idiotic stuff
Of course they are a good business model
 

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