« first day (1334 days earlier)      last day (3617 days later) » 

6:00 PM
@sehe fine
next time I'll show you a pizza that'll make you fall off your seats in awe
 
yay, it compileth
now I can move on to the next thing without checking whether or not it actually worketh.
 
(in my case deleting twitter from my phone reduces blips and removes a bi-weekly double tap to reset "unread message" count)
 
Why would you have twitter on your phone
or at all
 
I like twitter. I just don't like my phone for anything interactive. That includes voice calls.
 
sysadmin issues "Hey we need rights to spool up VM instances on our in-house compute cloud"
"here is a useless rights-less vm I spooled up for you"
"can I install packages on it"
"no sudo rights"
fuck this is useless
@sehe so why call it a phone
 
6:03 PM
a "phone" as "a thing that can make a voice call to another phone" is dead.
a "phone" today is a computer.
 
that sure is a very broad sentiment
 
@crasic I don't, why assume?
 
Not assuming, you used the word phone ;)
 
But I didn't call it that. It was already called that :)
(inb4 pedantry about naming vs. calling. Please defer to English Language & Usage)
 
If I quote an 82 word portion of text from a book into a question, is that okay concerning copyright issues?
 
6:07 PM
yes
 
english language and usage is surprisingly informative and not as pedantic as SO
 
Also if I quote another section of that size? :3
 
Depends on context
A fully attributed citation with quote out of a book is perfectly fine
 
whenever I mentioned actual text from a book it was like this
> some medium sized or big fragment here
> Taken from <book title> by <book author>
 
YOu can't reprint a significant portion of a copyrighted work in a derivative/critical work without permission
 
6:09 PM
I'm just writing a question about the whole static/inline thing now, I've got an 82-word portion on inline and I'll look for one about static next. The book is credited, title, author and ISBN
 
and significant is up to lawyers to decide, but a quotation with citation in a critical/derivative work is perfectly fine
 
@rodit Design and implement your own programming language. Keep us posted on the progress.
 
@Aberrant This is literally the definition of fair use
 
haha alright thanks!
 
There are nuances, for instance, you can't upload a movie to youtube and simply add a 5 minute "discussion" in the beginning before showing the movie in its entirety
that will be automatically flagged
 
6:12 PM
well by now I get the impression you can't upload anything to youtube anymore
 
However, if you redub the entire film, it becomes more complicated
 
user1804599
@rodit Learn C++—oh wait, tonnes of time is not enough time for that.
 
@Aberrant You can upload whatever you want, but youtube has an backend API for content providers that basically lets them upload their content
and youtube will do a "hash" of every new video/song/whatever against that database
 
David Michael Ungar, an American computer scientist, co-created the Self programming language with Randall Smith. The SELF development environment's animated user experience was described in the influential paper [http://research.sun.com/techrep/1995/smli_tr-95-33.pdf Animation: From Cartoons to the User Interface] co-written with Bay-Wei Chang, which won a lasting impact award at the ACM Symposium on User Interface Software and Technology 2004. Ungar graduated as a doctor of philosophy in computer science from the University of California, Berkeley, in 1985. His doctoral advisor was Dav...
 
So for instance every episode of the simpsons is in that database
anyone that wants to upload simpsons clips or episodes will have that video checked against the content database
And then flagged for automatic moderation based on IP holder wishes
Only way to get around it is signficant modification
which either means A. significat original content/criticism/parody
or Typically
B. Film of clip from potato
 
user1804599
6:15 PM
Huh.
 
user1804599
TIL mscorlib is open-source.
 
From v35, Chrome can now use DirectWrite font rendering on Windows, but Unicode bananas are still not rendering for me. I'm not sure what font it's trying to fall back on, if any, but I have Symbolas installed and it's not picking it. -.-
 
@rightfold you should join apply for the company I work for.
 
user1804599
Why?
 
Nobody understands my code.
 
user1804599
6:15 PM
Me neither.
 
@crasic Ah, so that's why clips are often mirrored on YouTube :)
 
And I would like a review.
 
Well I gather that was the intent but from what I hear, people are getting flagged for the tiniest bits of copyrighted material (4 second song fragment playing in the background) and the people who flag you are actually the judge, so if you resist they just say NOPE and you can lose your account
 
@StackedCrooked What language?
 
Oh, and you get to play with fancy hardware.
 
6:16 PM
 
@Crow What. You should watch Plinkett stuff about the prequels, he says why they're terrible far better than I can articulate :v
 
@Aberrant Yes, the youtube IP partner program has faced significant criticism for this
 
@FredOverflow Tcl, Java, C++. I've been working C++ almost exclusively the last year, but it varies.
 
however its a legal necessity
 
@Lightness it doesn't fall back on anything. AFAIK, DirectWrite will not use a font you didn't ask it to use.
 
6:17 PM
It's basically one server app written in C++ with Java and Tcl front-ends.
 
okey C++ is pretty fun to write.
 
this is about covers, not trivial claims, but he explains how the flaggers are the judges
 
I found fun in it again.
 
because in this way youtube washes its hands and lets the IP holder/uploader deal with DMCAs
 
No idea why/how.
 
6:17 PM
meh, I don't get why people are so harsh on the prequels. Why even compare them to the originals? It's kinda unfair really. If they were not associated with the originals most people would think they're probably pretty good
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but it will make the ones you do want to use very pretty
 
Otherwise every IP holder would have to DMCA youtube
which would be a huge legal liability for them
 
But as of now my views about C++ are "sucky, but still fun to write in".
 
@StackedCrooked What sane person wants to do C++ code reviews? And what sane person wants his C++ code reviewed? :)
 
@FredOverflow It all depends on how they offer
 
6:18 PM
I can review your Java code right now: it probably sucks hard.
 
Because I worry about my overloads.
 
Its insane to do it for free
But for 6 figures a year
 
@StackedCrooked Then use a language without overloading.
 
I'd do it for a few months
 
@FredOverflow we call these strange people developers
 
user1804599
6:18 PM
Cool, 5555 rep.
 
@crasic I can offer you 7 Lego figures per year!
(Does figure mean what I think it means?)
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Then do not overload.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, no, it's up to Chrome to perform the fallback, but I was hoping a renderer change might have come with that crucial fucking functionality too
 
@FredOverflow I want my code reviewed all the time.
 
@rightfold Not any more
;)
 
6:19 PM
@FredOverflow It's a small library that performs serialization. Overloading is very useful here. (As a means for static polymorphism.)
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked post it on Code Review.
 
I want everyone to tell me how bad my code is.
 
@rightfold ok
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Man man man, kansloos dit.
 
@StackedCrooked A C++ serialization library? I bet nobody has ever done that before...
 
user1804599
6:19 PM
Echt kankerslecht.
 
user1804599
Je moet je schamen.
 
8 hours ago, by sehe
Woot. critters aren't pedantic at all
look at the message directly preceding that...
 
@rightfold Ik ben.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Dein Codes saugen Elefantenarsch.
 
Has anyone tried Cap'n Crunch?
Wait.
 
6:21 PM
Crap'n Church?
@FredOverflow Oooh. Sehr gut
 
Cap'n Proto I mean.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are we still talking about... cerealization? ;)
2
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz それは馬鹿によって書かれました。
 
@FredOverflow lol, I extensively researched boost::serialization and protobuf. I settled with the latter, but built a little C++ layer on top of it so that I don't need to write a proto per rpc call for simple combinations of tuple, vector, map.
 
6:22 PM
#include "milk.h"
wait this is cpp
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I looked at it.. I think I even downloaded/compiled stuff. Thing is, I really don't care for external code preprocessors etc.
 
@FredOverflow MüesliXML.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz you need ym variables for that.
 
6:23 PM
Captain Proto can travel back in time?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't really understand the diagram.
 
@BartekBanachewicz nice. they implemented time travel!
 
@BartekBanachewicz wtf
 
@FredOverflow Cap'n Proto laughs at causality
 
I guess they meant to imply (a) connections are kept alive (b) stuff is faster
 
user1804599
6:24 PM
Well, it might be possible to implement that.
 
It tells the server to use whatever the result of foo is.
 
No, it might not.
 
user1804599
But only if you can predict future requests.
 
user1804599
But in practice that never occurs because you’d have a different design anyway.
 
Even if futures/promises are part of the API, the diagram is obviously wrong
 
6:24 PM
// KATANA.cpp
#include <iron.h>
#include <carbon.h>
#include <iron.h>
#include <carbon.h>
...
 
If it's a well constrained set of possible outcomes you can implement software branch prediction basically
 
As long as the client does not need the result for anyhting other than sending it as part of a future request, it works.
 
then roll back if there is a miss-guess
 
Likewise, this. They're good at making shite up, apparently.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit BUT CAP'N WHERE ARE THE ERROR BARS
 
user1804599
6:26 PM
There is no encoding taking place.
 
To be fair, that image is accurate
but they can still do one
 
@StackedCrooked where are the offices?
 
@sehe Ghent, Belgium
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked C++のカタナはたわごとです
 
It's also entirely misrepresentative to say that no encoding takes place. What they mean to say is that they do not perform the encoding for you. If you have anything more complex than a POD, though, then you must do some.
 
6:27 PM
@sehe Was this starred for being funny or useful?
 
@StackedCrooked mmm bit too far
 
The first RPC call returns immediately some request id and you can send that id back as an argument.
 
@FredOverflow you're asking the wrong guy. But I'd go with funny
 
user1804599
I don’t mind living in Ghent.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit encoding: nanosecond-microsecond range. network-io: millisecond range. Feels like a wrong optimization.
 
user1804599
6:28 PM
Echter zal ik wel het Brabants missen.
 
I'm starting to suspect this book doesn't mention static functions anywhere at all... That could explain why I don't know how they work yet :'3
 
@Aberrant Most C++ books are shit.
 
@sehe You'd seriously consider it if it was closer? :)
 
@StackedCrooked How do you propose "optimizing" someone's internet connection?
 
@DeadMG shit AND outdated
 
6:28 PM
also outdated.
 
user1804599
I want a dynamic keyword in C++ that can be used anywhere static cannot be used.
 
@BartekBanachewicz you should try pokey fun at hokey c++
 
ok ok optimise for space
 
the title will probably cause some chuckles, C++ for Java Programmers
 
user1804599
Excentis is een obscuur bedrijf waar—in mijn ervaring—vreemde vogels werken.
 
6:29 PM
@sehe ...
 
@Lightness it generates classes that convince the compiler to generate a layout matching the desired encoding and then just memcpy.
 
@BartekBanachewicz just learn to spell, problem volsed !
 
fcuk you. :)
 
@rightfold I'd tend to agree :)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not trivially (unless they have the resources to switch to fiber). But does that invalidate my point?
 
6:30 PM
That does have its limitations, though.
 
@BartekBanachewicz bine volintoers!
 
hi
 
@Aberrant So, C++ for people with absolutely no useful starting knowledge whatsoever then
 
user3010322
konnichiwa
 
I still don't like these solutions. Yes, I do care about the programmer who mistakenly calls function<float,enabler_t{}>(42). — user2023370 9 hours ago
 
6:31 PM
@rightfold Then just recycle the static keyword?
 
to be fair I think the book is actually quite good on pre-C++11 information
 
user1804599
@ThePhD こんいちばか
 
@Aberrant Firstly, that's really not saying much.
 
2 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
ok ok optimise for space
(partially)
 
@rightfold register?
 
6:31 PM
just remember that STL!=Standard Library
 
and secondly, you hardly know shit about the language, no offense, so I find your judgement in this matter suspect.
 
user3010322
STL = Standard Library? Got it.
3
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked why are you not on the team picture?
 
> When bandwidth really matters, you should apply general-purpose compression, like zlib or Snappy, regardless of your encoding format.
 
@Aberrant C++ For Java Programmers: You already know if and while, great! Now just forget about that OO crap and let's get going...
 
6:32 PM
^ This will probably undo the speed benefit.
@rightfold I think I am.
Not sure if I've seen that picture actually.
 
@FredOverflow C++ for Java programmers is the same as C++ for C programmers. Step one: Forget everything you think you know. Step two: Learn C++.
 
user1804599
 
@DeadMG that's okay but I just figured I'd toss in my honest thoughts on the book after my snarky comment on the title
 
user1804599
You are not on it.
 
user1804599
> Affiniteit met programmeren (C, C++, Java,…) of scripting (Python, TCL,…) is een plus.
 
6:33 PM
@rightfold He cracked the camera lens the first time, so they had to reshoot.
 
@rightfold bottom row second from left. my hair was shorter then.
 
> Allround IT-Verantwoordelijke
That just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?
 
user1804599
You are fatter than I thought.
 
maybe it does if you're Dutch or Belgian
 
@ThePhD You have to capitalize the T in standard as well. Otherwise, the abbreviation doesn't make sense. STL = STandard Library
 
user1804599
6:34 PM
But so many people. :v
 
@rightfold I've gained more.
 
user1804599
I cannot work there. Too many unknown people.
 
@DeadMG Fortunately, there's not that much to forget for Java programmers ;)
 
0
Q: Could someone point me how to do what i want?

user3730613I am desperate here, we need this answer so plese keep reading :(. How can i see who likes that button? We have a problem--> We had a competition about who gets most likes. Winners get a gig at festival. We won and now they (competition manager) said that we bought our likes. We did not buy like...

 
> Affiniteit met programmeren (C, C++, Java,…) of scripting (Python, TCL,…) is een plus.
 
user1804599
6:36 PM
2 mins ago, by rightfold
> Affiniteit met programmeren (C, C++, Java,…) of scripting (Python, TCL,…) is een plus.
 
This question appears to be off-topic because it is about hiring somebody to do work. — DeadMG 20 secs ago
 
@rightfold Btw, you would apply for the BB team which is not listed on that page.
 
user1804599
What does the BB team do? Write BlackBerry apps in BBEdit?
 
@rightfold lol
 
Test Engineer is mostly Tcl.
 
6:37 PM
@crasic dat title :D
 
I see people are still showing how slow Swift is
 
Jefffrey is underselling himself
 
user1804599
> Ik ben geïnteresseerd in een baan in het BB-team.
 
user1804599
> How the fuck does he know?
 
@rightfold yep
 
6:37 PM
@FredOverflow Dat user pic though
 
@rightfold Blow my byte.
 
unregistered user and still puts on a FB glamour shot
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Dat screenshot.
 
@rightfold I'm not using the full name, don't want to trigger Google notifications
 
@crasic What is that, a female bodybuilder?
 
6:38 PM
"Byte" is suspiciously similar to "bite", which is French slang for a penis.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked OIC.
 
@FredOverflow Not sure, but they forgot leg day
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the back arrows are wrong. What they apparently mean is that it allows serializing of composed function applications then? /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
@crasic I'm disappoint. Why is it not buried yet?
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Praat niet over mij met je collega’s. :x
 
6:39 PM
Are you guys getting old?
 
user1804599
Dat is gênant.
 
@Jefffrey No, I applied FP to my body cells.
 
bump........................ — user3730613 15 mins ago
 
ITs a repost too
 
@rightfold Don't worry. They will understand. Ponies are OK as a hobby.
 
6:39 PM
-3
Q: We need help to see are the likes real

user3730613We had a competition about who gets most likes. Winners get a gig at festival. We won and now they (competition manager) said that we bought our likes. We did not buy likes and we need facebook to prove it now. Please check this site: http://www.aukusti.fi/uu_the_extraordinaire Uu the extraordi...

 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked How about tentacles?
 
@rightfold Let's keep it at ponies.
 
user1804599
Virgin is a nice customer.
 
@crasic LOL
 
user1804599
6:40 PM
We’re getting a new website this week or next week.
 
Also answers to other questions
 
dat profile pic
 
-2
A: How do I create a Like button for specific web pages within one company

user3730613Sorry for hijacking your thread, but i am desperate and i need answer. How can i see who clicks that like button? We have a problem--> We had a competition about who gets most likes. Winners get a gig at festival. We won and now they (competition manager) said that we bought our likes. We did no...

 
Welp I took broken pants today
 
6:41 PM
No wonder I hid them
I need to start throwing old clothes out
 
user1804599
Throw away broken stuff.
 
user1804599
Don’t hide it.
 
:effort:
 
Hiding them from yourself is more :effort: than just throwing them away.
 
So I just listened to this talk: channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2014/4-587
2
 
user1804599
6:42 PM
@StackedCrooked If I apply, should I wear a suit with a bowtie or with a necktie?
 
One of the questions was: "How do I do this on C#?"
 
user1804599
Is a latex costume OK too?
 
The answer was: "Why are you using C#?"
 
@Mysticial What?
 
@rightfold I applied in jeans and sweater iirc.
 
6:42 PM
Why does the guy ask about C# in a talk about native code?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Exactly...
 
Man, that is a fucking swift banhammer
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked I applied for my current job in jeans and nothing because it was incredibly hot since there was no airco in the meeting room back then.
 
you don't need to suit. it's a developer job.
A tuxedo won't convince anyone of your skills.
 
@StackedCrooked Too late, I already bought the Microsoft Office Suit.
 
6:44 PM
Yeeeeaaaaah, the luser got pwned.
 
user1804599
The interview was basically having a beer and talking about what happened since the last time I worked there, lol.
 
@crasic ahahaha - questionable keming strikes agaṁ:
 
@StackedCrooked Too late, I already bought the Ubuntu TuxEdo.
 
@FredOverflow you keep goofing up
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked How would I convince anyone of my skills?
 
6:45 PM
Btw, what is Ubuntu TuxEdo?
 
user1804599
Do they ask questions about heaps and hash table implementations?
 
@StackedCrooked It's a tuxedo featuring Tux the penguin.
 
user1804599
If they do, I’d be doomed.
 
@rightfold memorize long list of design patterns :P
 
@rightfold You have never implemented heapsort or hashtables??
 
user1804599
6:45 PM
I don’t even know what a heap is.
 
@crasic erm, I'm protected by my browser: (background: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/259904/avatar-facebook)
 
@StackedCrooked A pun so horrible it burns
 
user1804599
I implemented a hash table once and it was extremely boring.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked The only design pattern I know is called “common sense.”
 
@rightfold std::make_heap, std::push_heap, std::pop_heap
 
6:46 PM
@rightfold one question I was asked is: if you visit google from your browser what is going on behind the scenes. (I totally could not answer that.)
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow I have no idea what those functions do.
 
"I don't know, the implementation is closed"
 
and second part of the interview was more about software dev in general.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked It sends a HTTP request to Google, which processes the request and sends back a response.
 
@rightfold A heap is a binary tree where the father is greater than both its children, but the children have no special relationship.
 
6:47 PM
@rightfold yeah, that's good. then they will dig down to lower layers of network stack.
 
@rightfold you forgot about DNS, ARP queries, broadcasts etc.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked I don’t know the OSI stack, but I know what’s below what.
 
Allows for O(log n) insertion of new element and O(log n) removal of greatest element.
 
otaining an IP, ARP, routing
 
user1804599
If you say OSI layer 4 I’d have no idea what the fuck it contains.
 
6:48 PM
Great for scheduling but also heapsort, of course.
 
OSI stack is not very relevant when it comes to web
 
user1804599
@sehe ABSTRACTIONS
 
@rightfold I knew nothing. Seriously I thought HTTP header was prepended to TCP.
 
@rightfold you forgot to forget those (the question specifically said "Behind the scenes" - so how does ethernet do collision detection/QoS?)
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked lol
 
6:49 PM
@StackedCrooked Singleton sucks, Observer is ubiquitous, rest can be looked up.
 
@rightfold It's the transport layer dummy, TCP/UDP
 
user1804599
@sehe DNS is not necessarily necessary, depending on how you go to Google. :P
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus I don’t know the numbers of the layers.
 
@rightfold true enough. Then, don't forget about (automatic) proxy negotiations
 
user1804599
But I know that TCP is above Ethernet, for example.
 
6:50 PM
@rightfold ethernet is hardware, so yeah ;-)
 
@rightfold Don't focus too much on OSI. It's TCP/IP in real world.
 
user1804599
I don’t know much about TCP except that it always works when I use high-level socket APIs.
 
@StackedCrooked or at least IP and GRE
@rightfold if you paid your broadband subscription
 
user1804599
My parents pay their broadband subscription, and I use it.
 
user1804599
I had the worst soup ever today, btw.
 
user1804599
6:52 PM
Pizza Quatro Stagioni soup. Yuc.
 
user1804599
Fuck instant soup. Almost as bad as instant noodles.
 
@rightfold the fuck
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Can I also work there for free for a few months?
 
The test engineers are mostly docsis experts (the coax cable spec.) because testing cable modems is the main source of income. BB is a side-project that is much more fun.
 
@rightfold I wanted to tell as soon as you mentioned it.
 
user1804599
6:53 PM
Instant soup. Never again.
 
@rightfold I think so. You could apply for a student summer job perhaps (then you get paid and you don't have to pay taxes).
 
Cup-A-Soup is gistex pasta, not soup
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
I never really liked Cup-a-Soup, but we had nothing else.
 
What in bloody hell is that.
 
user1804599
6:54 PM
Next time I will make sure we do have something else.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked I am not a student.
 
user1804599
I currently have a job.
 
And are a student of life!
 
Oh lol :P
 
Say, if a website is blurring text from me, is there an awesome way to magically deblur it and get the real content? Without going down the whole network stack?
 
user1804599
6:55 PM
@sehe I knew something was going to say something like that.
 
user1804599
But I was obviously referring to studying at a terrible university like Rotterdam’s.
 
yeah, it was time for cheesy quotes and bubble-gum. And I was all out of gum
 
user1804599
I prefer diversity over university.
 
@rubenvb Is the blurred text an image that was sent by the server? Then probably no.
 
user1804599
Where people have diverse sets of knowledge, rather than everyone having the empty set as knowledge.
 
6:56 PM
Or you could try to take a screenshot and apply a sharp filter with GIMP :)
 
@FredOverflow Hmm I just deblurred it by removing class="blurred". Guess what it syasy?
 
@rubenvb C-S-i, tweak CSS, profit
 
> sit lorem, in sit in lorem Mattis lorem Mattis. Mattis in Mattis? Cras Mattis
Fuck them.
 
@rubenvb add more blur until it's clear
 
@sehe Sounds like it yeah. It's an odd representation presumably designed to shock and awe in comparison with the diagram of the more traditional interaction.
 
6:57 PM
@StackedCrooked ah yes, why did I not think of that?
Shouldn't you be figuring out how to install stuff on coliru ;-P?
 
Google Chrome's right-click and inspect this element might reveal the original text.
 
@StackedCrooked lol, I must have seen that context menu item a million times and never really noticed it; I always open up the dev tools and do it that way. Lame
 
I got the text. But it's not the text it should be. They never sent it through...
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked your website could use a redesign as well. The navigation bar is horribly broken.
 
user1804599
It only works if I click the text in it.
 
6:58 PM
2 mins ago, by sehe
@rubenvb C-S-i, tweak CSS, profit
/cc @StackedCrooked
 
@rightfold works-for-me
:)
 
user1804599
Meh, not going to apply.
 
user1804599
I’d probably have to make a CV.
 
I only test with Chrome and Firefox. Apparently it's broken on other browsers, but I don't want to fix that.
 

« first day (1334 days earlier)      last day (3617 days later) »