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2:00 AM
He has stated to me that he doesn't want to come back
He'll be on IRC if you need him
 
@ElimGarak I always thought wed lose him in a motorboating accident
 
@TonyTheLion Then we need to unstate that.
 
Well he was banned for a year
 
@TonyTheLion IRC?
 
didnt he delete his account
 
2:01 AM
@TonyTheLion Oh damn.
 
so if he does come back, it won't be soon.
 
yes #loungecpp on freenode
 
@StackedCrooked freenode #loungecpp
 
Wait, what did Scott do?
 
Impersonated a mod
 
2:02 AM
Ah, then Cicada as well? Or was it Nooble?
 
No Cicada did not impersonate a mod
Nooble made a sockpuppet to impersonate a mod
 
P sure it wasn't Nooble
 
Yeah, it was someone else. Cicada was Awan or something.
 
@TonyTheLion Was it intended as a joke?
 
Ell
Night all
 
2:04 AM
cya
 
@StackedCrooked doubt it was a joke
 
How can you even impersonate a mod. You can't get the blue color.
 
@StackedCrooked Changed his name and avatar to that of Robert Harvey's
 
Yea but you can still have the name/gravatar
Its like that time there was 10 impersonations of Puppy in here
 
No disrespect to anyone. But the ability to move on is good for your health. Don't get stuck in the past.
 
2:06 AM
or Jon Skeet :)
 
A year suspension is harsh though.
 
yes
 
@StackedCrooked Yea, they (being meta) came down on this room quite harshly
 
Yeah, it's probably the Lounge moderation climate
 
He told the mods to fuck off and to delete his account so
 
2:07 AM
RIP ScottW :( you will be misssed
 
you did that, too bby <3 minus the impersonation :D
 
Wow, what the hell.
I really missed something it seems.
 
Nah, you haven't missed anything. I hope it's over now.
 
You missed a lot of exhausting drama
 
user406009
I mean, when you ask for them to delete your account ...
 
2:08 AM
It was entirely handled wrongly from both sides, if you ask me
 
class LocationBarView : public LocationBar,
                        public LocationBarTesting,
                        public views::View,
                        public views::DragController,
                        public gfx::AnimationDelegate,
                        public ChromeOmniboxEditController,
                        public DropdownBarHostDelegate,
                        public TemplateURLServiceObserver,
                        public ui_zoom::ZoomEventManagerObserver
multiple inheritance, not even once
 
that class hierarchy
 
struct LocationBarView : LocationBar,
                        LocationBarTesting,
                        views::View,
                        views::DragController,
                        gfx::AnimationDelegate,
                        ChromeOmniboxEditController,
                        DropdownBarHostDelegate,
                        TemplateURLServiceObserver,
                        ui_zoom::ZoomEventManagerObserver
Struct has default public :D
 
still nauseating
 
Inheritance default depends on whether those things are structs or not
 
2:10 AM
Nope
 
Why doesn't LocationBar inherit LocationbarTesting?
 
Each object will have 9 pointers to vtables.
 
On the other hand you only have 1 LocationBarView?
 
Which means you don't even haven any data in the first cache line.
 
@Mikhail why dont you ask google
 
2:11 AM
That's terrible :D
 
i just want to rip out your text rendering stack chromium
why must you be so difficult
also if youve ever browsed around in chromiums source code it is MASSIVE
 
The alternative to inheritance is to use a runtime scheme like in Qt. Maybe Google thinks the compiler will de-virtualize some of them? What we need is a meta-compiler!
 
and terribru
 
I have no idea how chromium devs keep track of it all
 
2:12 AM
So if you enable two factor authentication on Github you are no longer able to git clone/pull from private repositories :C
 
Actually nevermind, that's a bad example
 
@ElimGarak Hahahaha.
It finally happened.
Someone used my meme.
 
@CatPlusPlus lol you suck
 
...
 
2:14 AM
...
 
...
 
@StackedCrooked Inheriting from nine classes. What the bloody hell?
 
@Borgleader Erm.
 
Good thing I'm not using C++
 
@Borgleader Yeah, obvious rounding to ten preferable. :/
 
@ElimGarak I count 9?
@StackedCrooked o.o something something baseclass of all evil
To be fair, Donald Trump's speeches *do* sound incredible in their original German.
 
oh my
 
user406009
@Borgleader Trump is probably doing quite well due to the recent attacks.
 
So Lounge doesn't seem to like Trump very much
 
I read Trump's book when I was 18.
 
2:18 AM
It's all your fault
 
That's 17 years ago. I thought it was interesting.
 
Damn, son, you old.
 
Making hotels. Making casinos. Making money.
 
@Borgleader lol
 
Making up content for business books like you actually knew what you were doing.
 
2:19 AM
@Jefery I like some of the things Trump has said in the past in his presidential campaign, but he has also said quite a few things I think are either 1) unrealistic (like building a wall between Mexico and US) 2) Batshit insane (fighting more wars) 3) he is not specific enough when giving purported solutions to issues. (yes I've watched interviews & speeches)
 
@ElimGarak He did succeed in his business alright.
 
@TonyTheLion (Jefery is trying to start the troll with the other Trump that streams videogames)
 
Too bad he's a moron.
 
@ElimGarak Nah, it was good once
 
Can't remember all the details, because it was a while ago I watched
@ElimGarak He wants to trump him?
 
2:21 AM
Why are even people debating Trump, has something changed and he now has a chance at winning the elections?
 
@TonyTheLion What politic is ever specific enough?
 
@ElimGarak He seems to still have quite a bit of support per polls
 
Their job is not really to deal with details anyway. Someone else makes plans and executes them. They just give the OK or KO.
 
@Jefery A good question, to which I have no answer, however it seemed to specifically catch my attention that Trump tends to overly generalize things which shouldn't be generalized. Especially wrt sensitive issues, like immigration, guns, etc
 
like Mexicans
Or he is flat out wrong when he generalizes
 
2:23 AM
Also this cat video @Borgleader <3
 
@TonyTheLion Hahaha that's adorable <3
 
user406009
I like how Trump is not as beholden to big donors as other candidates. And that allows him to call them out on pandering to donors.
 
user406009
Most of his "policy" stuff is shit though.
 
@Lalaland You mean, he's richer than all the other ones?
And is being an ass about it?
 
@Borgleader He means he's not as much of a sellout as the others
 
user406009
2:26 AM
Also, Trump is clearly not an idiot.
 
Trump is an idiot all on his own and that's an achievement.
 
user406009
He is telling people what they want to hear.
 
user406009
Which is sorta the purpose of democracy.
 
Lala, you should tell people what they want to hear. Promise people modules as soon as you're elected.
 
user406009
Carson is the only one on that stage who is probably an idiot.
 
2:28 AM
@Lalaland That's the thing though, its easy to fall for what you want to hear, but at the end of the day, its still Congress that votes in laws, and if its not the Congress with a majority in his party, then they will block him as is currently happening with Obama.
So whatever promises Trump makes, at the end of the day, he will still need Congress's approval if he were to become president
 
@ElimGarak Nooble2016 is what people want to hear.
 
@Nooble That's lounge only
 
@TonyTheLion The Lounge is the world to me.
<3
 
2:29 AM
@Nooble No, what ppl wanna hear is "Luc Danton: @Borgleader: idk why i plonkd you"
 
user406009
@TonyTheLion Correct. Most presidents have very little real power outside of two things:
 
user406009
Foreign policy and nominating supreme court justices
 
@Borgleader Luc plonked you?
 
@Borgleader hahahaha
 
Luc plonked me
 
user406009
2:30 AM
That's why I'll vote for whoever looks like they won't start wars.
 
Luc doesn't have me plonked.
 
and a host of other people he deemed unimportant to his mission of discussing C++
 
I am honestly surprised that he didn't plonk me. Every time we interact, we exhibit destructive interference.
 
@Lalaland me!
 
@ElimGarak How can you know that you two destructively interfere if you destructively interfere?
 
2:31 AM
wut
 
@Mysticial Tony observes and lets me know on Mumble :D
 
go back to HFT :P
 
Happy Fun Time?
 
High Frequency Trading
 
Wait, Tony can't observe. Tony got plonked. :P
 
user406009
2:33 AM
@ElimGarak Plonking only goes in one direction.
 
@Lalaland IOW, you can have a plonk triangle.
 
Is that like the Bermuda Triangle?
 
I trust that plonked people plonk other folks back.
 
No
I don't have Luc on my plonk list
I rarely much interacted with him
 
I have no one in my plonk list.
 
2:34 AM
he has never done anything to upset me
 
user406009
I would be really interested in seeing the plonk network for this chat, anonymized of course.
 
Well, yeah, in the case of Luc it is understandable, he posts infrequently. But usually people generate a lot of noise and you can't interact and stuff.
 
user406009
There would probably be cool patterns.
 
I have about 50 people on my plonk list
 
Yeah, Tony has endured for years here, I had quite a bit of people back in 2012/2013 on the plonk bucket.
 
user406009
2:35 AM
@TonyTheLion That many?
 
@Lalaland 5 years of lounge
 
user406009
Still, that's like a plonk a month.
 
and I had an impatient phase where I would plonk anyone with a userxxxxxx name that came in
 
I only have tel kitty plonked.
 
Cicada is inmate 703016 currently
 
2:36 AM
@ElimGarak Cicada is exempt from my plonk list <3
 
user406009
@ElimGarak I think it's sorta poetic how he is now stuck with that name.
 
user406009
After all the name shenanigans he plays.
 
hehehe
His mostly innocent trolling is quite entertaining
 
user406009
That's why I was extremely surprised he got banned.
 
user406009
Cicada knows how to toe the line so well he might as well be dancing on it.
 
2:37 AM
he got angry like a lot of other people
 
Cicada also got banned?
 
user406009
@StackedCrooked He's unbanned now. Supposedly.
 
I was surprised I wasn't suspended. I guess I was borderline polite in my dissatisfaction.
 
For what?
 
2:38 AM
Was this a new moderator wanting to try out how powers?
 
user406009
@Nooble No one really knows.
 
Some sentence with "women" and "dominance" in the same line
 
Let's just say that shit happened. The way the mods handled it was complete shit. The way we responded was complete shit. The SE staff didn't seem to give a shit. So in the end, everything went to shit.
 
@Mysticial I guess it poked you in the wrong place too huh?
 
Human behavior.
It's a song by Bjork :)
 
2:39 AM
@Lalaland sigh
 
1 min ago, by Tony The Lion
Some sentence with "women" and "dominance" in the same line
 
@Lalaland You of all people should know that deletion does nothing ;)
 
@ElimGarak I'd have been polite.
 
user406009
@TonyTheLion I wasn't able to find anything in my logs.
 
@Lalaland Because it was deleted, d'uh
 
2:40 AM
@Lalaland Get better logs
 
@TonyTheLion You bet it did.
 
@Mysticial I'm sorry :(
 
user406009
Unless? "women live longer to make up for the time spent under the dominance of men"
 
@TonyTheLion You're talking to our beloved Stargazer developer.
 
user406009
I really should have logged the writer of the messages.
 
2:41 AM
@Lalaland possibly
 
Most people don't understand that when @Cat gives you an ascii middle finger, it's an accomplishment rather than an insult.
 
@Mysticial Interesting way to look at it
 
user406009
@Nooble My current project is analyzing chat relationships.
 
user406009
So far, all I can see is that everyone talks to everyone.
 
@Lalaland In what way?
@Lalaland Yes.
 
2:42 AM
@Lalaland My new way to treat the Lounge is with love.
 
user406009
"Who pings who in the chat?"
 
@Lalaland Me and @TonyTheLion are a pair :)
 
@Lalaland YES
It was that.
 
user406009
All my graph clustering tools show a giant mess.
 
2:43 AM
@Borgleader <3
 
@Lalaland Can you say who has talked to whom the most?
Like who do I talk to the most?
 
I just want Loungers to be happy :) <3
 
Its been scientifically proven by @Lalaland that chat is messed up. RIP
 
user406009
@Nooble Yeah. I'll post the raw data dump on a gist.
 
@Nooble probably nick or nab
 
user406009
2:44 AM
Wait a sec.
 
omfg lol for you ppl good at math @Mysticial @Rapptz
 
@Lalaland That's very useful
 
@Lalaland Uh.
 
user406009
2:47 AM
I am rendering the PNG as we speak.
 
Render it faster please
:P
 
@Borgleader Well, learning stuff in school goes after that process, when it was already processed and ready for consumption, being presented to you on a silver platter. While it took Einstein to develop what was to become the general theory of relativity (name per suggestion from Neils Bohr) 10 years, you don't really need 10 years to "understand the understood". :P
 
@Borgleader idgi
 
@ElimGarak Sure there is some of that, joke still good though :)
@Mysticial Juxtaposition of years of fighting over "an outrageous theory that makes no sense" vs "guys, its obvious, how do you not get this after an hour"
 
The only thing that's missing is the part that breaks the joke. :P
 
user406009
I am still trying to do some clustering.
 
Watched a nice episode of TNG today. CGI is shit, but Picard is Picard.
 
user406009
Bus as you can see, it's a mess.
 
@ElimGarak Also, I,ll take your word with a grain of salt, because youre also one of those bastards whos good at math :)
 
@Lalaland Like 3 Cicada alts in there :P
 
user406009
2:57 AM
@TonyTheLion Yeah, I didn't bother trying to fix that.
 
Those who think they're not good at math usually are. Being "terrified" by the scope math is a good indicator. As long as it doesn't paralyze you. :D
 
user406009
It wouldn't make that much difference though, very few people change their name here.
 
@Lalaland you should prolly do it by userid rather then name
 
user406009
And that's a year's worth of data.
 
user406009
@TonyTheLion Can't. When you refer to someone by @, you don't specify their user id.
 
2:57 AM
I've been mostly wary of folks who proudly claim for themselves that they are good at math.
 
@Lalaland oh I don't know the api
@ElimGarak I suck at math, though math sucks at me too :P
 
user406009
@TonyTheLion It's extremely simple.
 
I love the hilarious people who equate mathematics "the subject at school" and mathematics. Those have the longest way to fall.
 
@ElimGarak I hit a wall at things i cant represent in my head. Like I'm reasonably good with vector algebra, but matrices dont make sense to me. Vectors have a geometric, or visual representation, matrices dont (afaik). Same for integrals, I'm ok with the ones that represent area under a curve, or a volume, but past that I hit a wall.
 
user406009
2:59 AM
Just from looking at the graph, it doesn't even appear like any clustering would help at all. Everyone talks to everyone.
 
Indeed, the really abstract shit gets too difficult to wrap your mind around
 

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