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3:00 AM
Ugh I think I'm gonna try Firefox dev edition
 
also I get lost when I can't seem to grasp WHY an operation is done or an equation is done a certain way
 
Probably rip my addons
 
@CatPlusPlus I use it :3
 
hipster
 
I want multiprocessing mostly
 
3:01 AM
also some of the simpler shit in maths gets me confused, like logarithms
 
It'll be forever until it lands in stable
 
user406009
The hardest part of math is proofs.
 
Also, I have yet to find a good explanation for Singular Value Decomposition
 
user406009
Sometimes it can be very non-trivial to get to one thing from another.
 
Proofs are the best thing ever. Especially rigorous ones.
 
3:02 AM
inb4 I have to know everything in Math
 
@ElimGarak :C
 
I'm going to bed
 
But it's only 4:04 am.
 
well its a lot later than I would usually go
 
@TonyTheLion night
 
3:07 AM
<3
 
Ugh of course it uses a different appdata folder
 
@Borgleader Ah, I can imagine you having issues with groking the multidimensional rendering integral done over a unit hemisphere above a point. :D Have you ever tried gaining some intuition by thinking of integration as a continuous variant of discrete summation? :D
 
Well yes, I know what integration "means"
I just, have a hard time reasoning about them when they dont represent something in nD where n <=3
 
lol that shitty dark theme
> Panorama (tab groups) will be discontinued starting with version 45. If you've been using Panorama, thank you for trying it out! We are refocusing our efforts to make Firefox even better.
Discontinue this!!!
No but really, ugh
 
> Panorama is shit. Sorry you had to endure it. We'll make it up to you.
 
3:13 AM
Except it's not
 
Write to them, Cat! Don't let them get away with it!
 
Yeah like that'll change anything
 
tell them they should leave it in for PC reasons
I dont know why youd remove a feature like that if it doesnt require a lot of upkeep tho
 
Hahahaha.... Oh X-Files... old man lists evils: "Cain, Lucifer... Hitler" one of these is not like the other two
 
just leave it as an option people can enable/disable
 
3:17 AM
anyone here used low level Windows Audio API's before?
 
Well, at least there's an addon implementing that already
 
@edition god no
 
@Borgleader That's the most important thing. It has many different forms of achieving the same thing. You're currently in the annoyed "trying to deal with it" phase. That elongated S symbol has so many ways of achieving the same basic notion. And your mind simply wants a silver bullet it's never going to get. :D
 
what do you mean by low level?
 
@chmod666telkitty waveOutWrite
 
3:18 AM
And it's even better because it lets you disable that stupid animation
Fuck UI animations
 
There are actually really cute books on integrals that play on that "conundrum", such as the Garden of Integrals which I learned to enjoy after actually dealing with calculus first in a more dry sense.
 
nope
are you running into some kind of problem using it?
 
> alternate_nav_url = GURL();
 
@chmod666telkitty you addressing me?
 
chromiums source code is p funny
 
3:19 AM
All I remember about integrals is 'reverse of derivative' and '+ C'
 
@CatPlusPlus I feel like UI animations make the response feel sluggish (unless it is 0.1 seconds)
 
GURL
 
@edition yes
 
@chmod666telkitty I can't seem to make a sine tone, and write the samples to my sound card using low level Windows Audio API functions such as waveOutWrite.
 
They're maybe sometimes useful for masking latency or whatever? idk, I don't like them anyway, it can die along with all the rest eye candy
 
3:20 AM
@ElimGarak I once tried watching an online calculus course hoping and different explanation would help me understand the subject better. sadly it was explained much they way id seen it the first time so it didnt help much
 
I bought a calculus textbook from a university book shop, hth
 
Well I still have mine from Uni
but Ive been through it already
 
If you want to have fun with integrals, try deriving the shadowing/masking function analytically (semi closed form) for the Cook-Torrance (also known as "modern" even though it is everything but) specular BRDF. :D
 
There's a great book that can be had for cheap that shows how to derive a lot of math things, including calculus, looking in bookshelf...
 
@ElimGarak something something small steps
 
3:26 AM
The math I felt I could pick up on and apply the best was stuff that was taught visually
 
Duplicati is so annoying
 
im big on visual learning... I get pretty impatient with super abstract stuff
 
Yeah, intuition falls off really quick as you venture deeper into the abyss that is mathematics. Richard Feynman was actually a rather visual guy. Fitting then, that we have Feynman diagrams today. :D
 
> Brandolini's Law: "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."
 
I'll figure it out.
 
3:28 AM
Sure, he needs money to fix his bike. Or car. Or both.
 
I need money to buy a condo, but i cant teach for shit :(
 
Make a killer game bby. Wait, they already made a killer game and everyone took a shit on it.
 
wat game?
 
3:31 AM
The team is actually from Poland, they have a lot of Piotrs.
 
haha, I just applied to be a codementor.
 
The CEO is dank af. Hilariously bad.
 
@AaronHall Thanks. I'll check that out.
 
@Lalaland "LucDanton": 426, lol
 
@AaronHall 271$ for a new copy holy shit...
not getting this new lol
 
3:38 AM
"Concise", "Encyclopedia" and "Mathematics" sounds like a bad idea :D
LEARN HOW TO MAKE GAEM IN 21 HOURS
 
Not necessarily
 
also here, I made it prettier
 
Concise doesnt necessarily mean skip stuff, just not having extra fluff
 
Pretty sure that price is for ... with more money than sense.
 
@Borgleader Man, you Canadians are so optimistic. :D
You should get a beer with Etienne. :D
 
3:39 AM
lol we probably work <30 min from each other
never actually met him though
 
actual retail new is probably 70
 
He's p dank.
 
what's that mean? gross?
 
How much until pirate can climb down from the plank?
 
3 litres
 
user406009
3:41 AM
@Rapptz One thing to be careful of is spaces. The sender names have spaces, the receivers don't.
 
user406009
I just strip spaces from everything before analysis.
 
stinky and potent?
 
@Lalaland this is just yours
 
I wouldn't be able to sleep if I made that game.
 
3:42 AM
I cba to do this
 
Some mass killer is going to play that game before murdering a bunch of people, and they'll get blamed.
 
@Lalaland apparently I talk to @ElimGarak, @ThePhD (RIP :(), @Puppy and @Borgleader :D
also, holy crap some of those arrows are hard to follow :p
 
Apparently, Luc Danton has never addressed @TonyTheLion :D
@melak47 check out Rapptz's prettifier :D
 
user406009
@melak47 It's easier to use the JSON when looking at individuals.
 
user406009
Sender is on the left.
 
user406009
3:48 AM
Receiver is on the right.
 
user406009
It counts both normal references and when you respond to a message.
 
user406009
The data is from the last year.
 
neat.
 
@ElimGarak well
 
@LucDanton ...in the last year
 
3:51 AM
I'm actually surprised that I talk to Luc the most this year.
 
Yeah, most of those are '13, I think. But still, I said "never", which is not true :D
 
Also poor LRiO.
We talked a lot too.
 
@Rapptz look into your heart and who do you see
 
you obv
Mysticial talks to me the most.
 
Mysticial is coolio
 
3:53 AM
omg Firefox multiprocessing works
 
> "BartekBanachewicz": 1710,
 
I opened that tab and it didn't kill the UI
 
holy shit robot
 
Robot got the badgetech
 
@LucDanton looks like it's reciprocated bub.
> "Rapptz": 974,
 
3:55 AM
:)
is Gregor/etc. aggregated properly though?
 
nah scattered across multiple names
 
cus I don’t want you to have false hope
 
user406009
@LucDanton That's not really possible without manually collecting all of his names.
 
user406009
I mean, I have the sender's user id.
 
I never remember if we have Y down as negative or positive
 
user406009
3:56 AM
But I don't have the user id of who they are talking to.
 
I think I still win.
 
@CatPlusPlus pls it’s Sunday
 
Cicada is Inmate 703016, currently incarcerated at ADX SnackOverflow.
 
@ElimGarak Spoke to me the most, followed closely by Alex. M
 
3:58 AM
@Rapptz Rapptz!
 
@Mysticial Mysticial!
 
Wrex. Shepard. Grunt. Shepard. Wrex. Shepard!
 
We were too full to eat my mom's birthday cake yesterday so we ate it today.
It doesn't taste the same.
:(
 
pretty dank, especially with all the language difficulties and stuff
 
4:02 AM
hello all
 
lol the only negative review for the book @AaronHall suggested is some guy complaining that the used copy he bought was in terrible condition (instead of commenting on the contents of said book)
 
When people can't complain about the author, they'll move to other frivolous things. :D
 
Yeah, good value
 
I think he just didnt understand the concept of reviews
 
4:05 AM
Prob yeah, I'll hunt down a reasonably priced copy.
 
Still holds up visually. :D
 
user406009
@ElimGarak That's because we all know that graphics are not that important :P
 
user406009
Art style is much more important.
 
Yeah, but in this case, it was pretty dank for those days. :D One of my all time favorites.
Jennifer Hale was in that game as well, she's Junie. Man, I am really weary of her voice, would love some other female voice talent to crop up.
 
It's a pretty thick book.
 
4:12 AM
If only you left out "a book". Alas, it was not meant to be.
 
@Borgleader I think you spoke the most to me 0_0
Or I'm not seeing the data right.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak I guess the lounge is truly back to normal now that we are making penis jokes.
 
@Lalaland Best lounge <3
 
from the book: (u/v)' = (u'v- uv')/(v**2) derived from y = u/v; yv = u; u' = y'v = yv'; thus: y' = (1/v)(u' - yv') = (1/v)[u' - (u/v)*v'] = [u'v - uv']/(v**2)
@chmod666telkitty yeah, I've noticed that
 
4:21 AM
2025 is right around the corner.
 
@AaronHall isn't that like 1st year college maths?
 
I never learned to derive the rules
just learned by rote memorization
 
user406009
Then did you really learn at all?
 
Well, I am off to bed. You guys be nice <3
 
night
 
4:24 AM
I wasn't a math major. That's like saying I can't program Python because I'm not an expert in C.
 
A important part of maths is about deriving things from proven theorems.
 
<3
ok, it's been 10 minutes, my wife turns homicidal if I don't go to bed when I say I will. ciao!
 
user406009
@AaronHall Good night!
 
How low does ISIS plan to go? They are now using knives in terrorist attacks??
 
user406009
Well, they can't get much lower than the sex slavery they are doing in Syria ...
 
user406009
4:31 AM
I really don't understand the young people who leave their countries to join ISIS.
 
There are a lot of people who don't have their own goals in lives ... you will be amazed how effectively brain washing works on them.
but that's nothing new, brain washing techniques have developed through thousands of years in the human history
 
for the rep
 
user406009
So Cicada, what was your original new name?
 
user406009
Before they branded you Inmate 703016.
 
I am not a number I am a free potato
 
4:36 AM
yesterday, by chmod 666 telkitty
23 hours ago, by chmod 666 telkitty
Awan Afuqya, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
24.3k 3 46 82
 
user406009
Ah. Cute.
 
user406009
@user703016 I am surprised they haven't tried to take down your about page.
 
there is nothing offensive on his about page ...
 
user406009
True, I guess it is sorta an instance of Poe's law.
 
Awan is a valid arabic name btw
 
4:43 AM
And so is Afuqya.
Time for bed.
Good night.
 
I did tell you to not strike twice in a row
 
nite
 
cya drop bear
 
ate spicy korean food yesterday it was a mistake
 
Bought 5kg seafood yesterday, had mussels & mantis shrimps for lunch
Maybe it's too much seafood, maybe I did not steam it correctly. Now I feel slightly sick.
I am so sure that my PC is infected
anti-virus does nothing though
 
user406009
4:58 AM
What makes you "so sure"?
 
user406009
Did you install any pirated software on it?
 
Everything freezes once in a while ... like 3 times a day ...
maybe I should scan for bad sectors
apple software update has been going on for the past 3 hours
 
user406009
In my experience, malware doesn't really come to you.
 
user406009
More like you get it for yourself when you install shit that you shouldn't.
 
user406009
Like pirated games, etc, etc.
 
5:02 AM
I don't play games anymore, and I don't download pirated software
 
user406009
Then it's most likely not a virus.
 
I did download random software like 3-5 years ago from random websites though
 
user406009
Anyways, the only way to be really sure is to nuke from orbit and reinstall the OS.
 
user406009
Modern malware is really darn persistant.
 
@Lalaland Sure it does, that's why it's important to keep all of your crap up-to-date
 
5:10 AM
So guys I tried sleeping.
But I couldn't pull it off.
Instead I completed three of these CTF stuffs.
Can you believe I just pulled off a buffer overflow attack? Yeah I know, I'm amazing.
 
user406009
@CatPlusPlus A lot of the important applications auto-update.
 
user406009
Like for instance, the browsers.
 
user406009
Just disable the stupid java plugin.
 
s/plugin//
 
Auto-update still doesn't mean you're safe
 
5:12 AM
I have both McAfee & windows security essential both installed, does it matter? I heard stories about having 2 anti-virus installed and stuff freezes all the times.
 
user406009
Disable McAfee.
 
user406009
More like uninstall McAfee.
 
No one is safe from me. I am the super hacker.
 
I am looking at my recently installed programs, mcafee was installed 2-3 weeks ago
I don't remember why I had it installed though ... but I do remember I click the button for the installation to take place.
 
5:28 AM
@LucDanton 5 people are waiting for an update can't let them down!!!
Actually there was a p serious intermittent bug that made the game unplayable, so
Well, not completely unplayable, but annoying anyway
 
@CatPlusPlus Y down should always be negative.
Except when you're dealing with text.
And when Nab is being annoying.
 
so flatmate complains I use aircon and hence should pay extra utility but never turns off the light when going out? ok
 
user406009
@Nooble But then all your Z values are negative.
 
user406009
Which gets sorta annoying.
 
user406009
@user703016 To be fair, lights use up very little power.
 
user406009
5:34 AM
While the AC does consume a significant amount.
 
@user703016 maybe you should get a studio or 1 br apartment instead of sharing
 
I do not accept rebuttals constituted of facts and/or reasonable explanations
 
@user703016 Do you accept AMEX though?
 
yes
 
@user703016 makes sense seems fair
 
5:49 AM
@user703016 Tell her that if she keeps the lights off, she won't have to do expensive lighting calculations on the shader.
 
5:59 AM
@nick Are you awake.
@набиячлэвэлиь Are you awake.
@ElimGarak Are you awake.
Okay maybe it really is time for sleep.
 
Never
 
@Nooble naaaah
> > Once more, /r/haskell has grown by more than 4,000 users this year. Congrats!
> In the spirit of functional programming I've been making a new account every time I want to post a comment, so it's probably my fault.
 
I lost my precious 10 rep.
God damn it Scott.
 
Fallout from this will be seen for years
 
scott could just sign in with a new account if he really wants to
my 9 cents would be on that staff would just let him without further ban if he doesn't make a fuss about things
 
6:13 AM
@Nooble I also lost 10, but that happens like every other day for me so I wouldn't be able to pin-point who.
 
10 kilos
 
My chair sucks
 
@CatPlusPlus Buy a new one.
 
@CatPlusPlus That sounds like something high-tec.
 
@Nooble I lost 1 rep.
 
6:19 AM
@Nooble yes
 
@nick Hi.
@Rapptz It's okay, we still have each other!
 
goodbye loves i must sleep
 
@nick Eww.
 
Video game soundtrack requires you run a program to hear it, uses Group Policy for DRM https://www.reddit.com/r/Xenoblade_Chronicles/comments/3vikin/warning_the_xenoblade_chronicles_x_ost_has_a/
laffo
 
wtf
 
6:47 AM
"It looks like Slack is having a problem." Yes! The problem: we're still building centralized chat applications 15 years after Gnutella.
Relevant
 
yes, we know you are reading twitter, now please stop spam here with all the 'exciting new' tweets you have just read, thank you
 
@CatPlusPlus lolwat
 
This is normal
 
we had this blackout last night which was really a tension too low thing
the only lights capable of doing anything started flickering
it was like watching myself in 5fps
 
7:13 AM
State of software: if your computer lets you do something you want to do with it, that gets reported as a bug. https://twitter.com/steipete/status/663281406416723968
 
7:34 AM
holy pants RIP Lounge
I mean seriously that's pretty crazy, what happened to everyone?
oh okay a refresh fixed that
weird
 
hi
 
no
be concerned about your work ethic
@Borgleader :D
 
> SVG mixes presentation with content, and simply isn't necessary. You only need HTML, CSS, and JS. What would you need SVG for? You can do any shape in CSS, you citrus licking fascist.
 
Well I just attended a wedding.
The after party was pretty ballin' and I actually left before it was finished
it was winding down and had moved to a pub
I left literally seven and a half hours after I got there and I think the non-party stuff was like two hours of that
and I think no one believed me when I said I'd only had cranberry juice, water and coffee all night
present opinion is that drunk people are fun
 
is anyone going to join the mumble server?
 
7:43 AM
nah I'm gonna go to bed I'm running on like 5.5 hours of sleep
 
oh. I see :(
 
also I'm almost hoarse from yelling "yeah" over and over again
 
Almost horse
 
I would say neigh but I would be contradicting myself
 
ok
 
7:49 AM
horse puns are difficult
 
nay, a neighsayer
Manely, I would blame the lack of equine words in the common vernacular for that difficulty. People wishing to use horse puns really have to hoof it.
 
ooh, I could write an old english style poem as a github gist.
 
and they wind up forcing horse puns into their sentence flow a bit hoof-handedly.
really you have to stirrup some horsey thoughts if you want to make those puns, otherwise you might think you canter
that last one was shameful I'm going to bed
 
@jaggedSpire night
 
@edition nn
 
8:16 AM
I only grilled those fish cubes for 2 minutes, then I ate them with wasabi & soy sauce. If you don't hear from me tomorrow, I have died from food poisoning ...
 
8:29 AM
Hi. I am fairly new to make and Makefiles, and I am not well informed of best practices / guidelines. My question is, do you add your test target to install? So, that when users run make, besides installing the program, tests also run.
Or do you keep them separated? Inside the makefile, they are of course separate targets, what I am asking is whether you think it is a good idea to add the test target as a depedency in install.
For example
install: this that docs test
[tab] ...
 
@chmod666telkitty how are you?
 
hellew
 
 
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