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12:00 PM
@user703016 Yes, what does that have to do with it?
 
@MadaraUchiha That message is either terribly phrased or I'm reading badly into it.
 
@sbi The room won't be wiped out because of one guy's comment.
 
@MadaraUchiha Well? You are one and we're thirty? One mod and thirty users?
 
It sounds a lot like "I'm like God and you are nothing".
What do you actually mean?
 
lol jefery
 
12:01 PM
It's not uncommon for IRC rooms to go into +O mode.
 
@Jefery I mean that I'm 1, and there's 30 of you practically lynching me (during the heated times)
 
@Jefery He means that he had a hard time trying to explain himself while being barraged by thirty odd users at the same time
 
Why are you surprised that you're one and we're thirty
Mods are a minority by definition no?
 
@MadaraUchiha Err...
> Frankly, if it were up to me, I'd freeze the whole room and be done with it. The C++ Lounge has been getting away with completely unacceptable and unprofessional behavior for years. I welcome the members of the Stack Overflow community to read the last few days of the transcript from the Lounge and to give us a reason why this chatroom should be allowed to continue.
 
@MadaraUchiha Ok, I was reading it wrong. Sorry.
 
sbi
12:01 PM
@MadaraUchiha Look, it's not just this one (which I found in my inbox this morning) on this thread. And it's by far not the first time I have heard that. I dunno when you became a mod, but I bet we have heard those threats long before that.
 
By Brad Larson♦ himself.
 
Also I don't think there's 30 people lynching you
 
@TonyTheLion Yeah, I understand the feeling.
 
@Rapptz Again, one moderator's opinion is not enough to bring this room down.
 
@Rapptz This message creates antagonism unnecessarily, and for a mod, its really not sending a message that they're trying to be helpful
 
12:02 PM
@user703016 Now there aren't.
 
Not before either
 
Read the transcript from few days ago
 
@sbi I think this room has a greater chance of getting closed if you keep on bring this topic up
 
There aren't 30 regulars
Much less "lynching" you
 
@MadaraUchiha My point is that it isn't "one person" or "one moderator" it's multiple people.
 
sbi
12:02 PM
@MadaraUchiha That was nonsense the first time you posted that, and didn't get better since. You got this the wrong way. You can get us banned, we can't even kick you.
 
It's an opinion shared by many different people in the thread.
 
@user703016 The original discussion was rather intense.
 
@sbi I didn't come here to ban anyone, you know.
 
The fact that a moderator posts it also adds flames and other people piggyback it.
 
@MadaraUchiha That's why you want to defuse the situation as quickly as possible, as opposed to alienate even more people by fighting back.
 
12:03 PM
@MadaraUchiha Not willing to go all over this again
 
@Rapptz No arguments there.
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha I know. Nor did we come to kick you. The powers, however, are still distributed exactly opposite to what you said. (And I did notice that you avoided reacting to my argument by going off on a tangent, BTW.)
 
But anyone is entitled to their own opinion. Even moderators.
 
And sigh we're going through it agaiiiinnn
 
@Rapptz Yes exactly
 
12:04 PM
@sbi Yes, that is true. In terms of "superpowers", I have more power than all of the room combined.
 
which is exactly why you should be using them carefully
 
@MadaraUchiha It shouldn't be hard to comprehend how the message snippet I posted above makes us feel as a room.
 
But that doesn't change the fact that I am still one person, and drowning in aggressive, I dare say trollish messages all around didn't really help the conversation going.
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha Well, so can you please stop to imply anything else? Because it's a bad discussion tactics when someone in power paints themselves as weak.
 
@MadaraUchiha Well moderator's opinion by definition does carry more weight, because they have the power to act on their opinion, so they shouldn't throw it around lightly, especially if it carries a message of such antagonism as the one that @Rapptz posted
 
12:05 PM
@sbi I could have silenced the room from the beginning.
 
@MadaraUchiha I definitely agree that the Lounge certainly overdid it on their side.
 
I could have suspended at least 7-8 more users than I have
 
We get it, you have power.
 
I did not.
 
@MadaraUchiha In which case, sorry, but you're not doing a good job. You're not supposed to put yourself on our level, the users, you're supposed to be detached and managing things from a cold perspective. I realize it's difficult, but that's how it should be.
 
12:05 PM
Because that's not the point.
 
If by "Lounge" you mean Cat then yeah.
 
You don't need to remind us of this every other minute.
 
@user703016 I completely and full heartedly disagree.
 
Well probably a few others.
 
Because the greater times this topic gets brought up, the higher the chance the whole thing will blow over again and if things get much worse, then maybe this room will be closed after all. But if we leave things as it is and move on, what happened will naturally be forgotten (to some extend). Get wounds reopen time after time is hard for its recovery.
 
12:06 PM
@MadaraUchiha terrible
 
But Cat was overdoing it quite a bit.
 
sbi
@chmod666telkitty No. In order to keep this room what it is and it still not getting it closed is to discuss these things through until both sides fell like they have a better understanding of the other.
 
@user703016 Moderators are first and foremost, community members.
That's why we're elected from the community, and not hired externally.
 
that's an awful approach at moderation
 
@user703016 That's the Stack Exchange approach.
 
12:06 PM
which is awful
 
@MadaraUchiha Wait. Are you saying that if it was for you you would have banned more people back then and that would have been the right thing to do?
 
@user703016 I disagree a bit too but I see where you're coming from.
 
@user703016 quora.com
 
@sbi I don't think the "professionalism" part of meta will ever understand this room
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha Yes. And you could have nuked Europe, because this would have stopped it, too. So? Do you want me to applaud you for not having done this?
 
12:07 PM
@Jefery Absolutely not.
 
Then why did you bring that up?
 
@Jefery Because the discussion about "powers" is irrelevant if no side intended to use their powers to begin with.
 
But they did.
 
I came here to have a discussion. Not to ban. Not to freeze. Not to shut down.
 
You did.
Your intentions are not very relevant at the moment.
 
12:08 PM
Still, I don't think anyone sincerely wants to get rid of this room. They just don't want daily trouble from here. But then I can be wrong.
 
jfc this whole event sucked badly from any perspective can we just bury it and move the fuck on
and hopefully the next time will be handled better
 
sbi
@Mr.kbok Ah, professionalism my ass.
This so-called "professionalism" is just something to puritans bring up every time they dare not to expose themselves as what they are by explaining why sex is a banned topic. I mean, who goes into the tavern and tell these folks that 7 Fridays a week is "unprofessional"? See. Just a stupid cloak.
 
Yeah I wanna move on too.
 
I don't think we want to move on.
Every time people say "I want to move on" and every time they fall back to talk about it.
 
Everyone except you.
 
12:09 PM
tavern got a lot of cat pictures, nobody complained
 
sbi started this.
Not us.
 
@Jefery Because every time someone brings it up
 
ban sbi
 
And then it basically boils down to
 
@user703016 the issue is if we don't discuss it, it probably will happen again, in the same manner as before. There's nothing wrong with discussing it.
 
12:10 PM
 
sbi
@chmod666telkitty Yeah. And I do not want to get rid of these neighbors of mine. I just do not want to have to see them living there. Shrug.
 
@Jefery That's because you're being too generic. Some loungers want to move on; some of them aren't finished hashing it out yet.
 
@Rapptz I like how you speak for everyone now.
Makes you more of a badass.
 
@TonyTheLion I don't disagree but we've been basically rehashing the same thing over and over for the past 4 days or so and I think everyone has made their point and been heard.
 
I'm not.
 
12:10 PM
And sexier :3
 
sbi
50 secs ago, by Tony The Lion
@user703016 the issue is if we don't discuss it, it probably will happen again, in the same manner as before. There's nothing wrong with discussing it.
^ There.
 
We can now proceed to moving on
 
I like how you shitpost though.
etc
 
thanks
 
@sbi That's... a pretty accurate representation of any petty conflict ever
 
12:11 PM
np bby
 
@MadaraUchiha Not the Holocaust.
 
I was supposed to be working on this asyncio shit.
 
Hitler did want to get rid of those neighbours.
 
1 Godwin point for peppy
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha I see you have not gone through a divorce yet.
 
12:11 PM
@sbi I completely agree. But from a meta POV, we're a minority here. (American website, etc.) I don't think discussing it with meta will ever make things better.
 
Instead I'm talking here like I'm stuck in December 2nd 2015.
 
@sbi Nope, thank the Sage.
 
The Day The Lounge Stopped Spinning
 
@chmod666telkitty Look how Brad's post ends. Look at the votes.
 
@Rapptz It's 4 days ago. Not too bad of a desync.
 
12:12 PM
votes on meta, lol - nobody takes those seriously ... except bugs and feather requests ...
 
Except any other average Joe on meta
It's only us that don't take that seriously
 
sbi
@Mr.kbok Well, I want them to either make an official rule about this, or to just shut the fuck up. @Jerry had made a very good comment here about this the other day:
Dec 1 at 23:54, by Jerry Coffin
@shog9: Still wondering if we can get some guidelines that if an intelligent person reads them, and makes a sincere attempt at following them, he can be reasonably assured that either he won't get banned, or else the actions of the moderator(s) who did the banning will have their actions reviewed by actual employees, and when/if those mods are shown to have done the wrong thing, appropriate action will be taken.
This is what I want. Either ban "sex" officiall (and thus admit you're an idiot) or stop bothering people every time you realize they dare discussing it as if it was an important topic for humanity.
 
@chmod666telkitty Votes on meta represents the community's opinion. There a clear signal here that says "nuke those unprofessional bastards"
 
Oh it's December 1st?
 
lol
 
12:14 PM
RIP
 
but did they get rid of the lounge?
no
 
I thought it was Wednesday.
 
did they threat to get rid of lounge by certain date?
 
I would say its better to discuss it then to have it happen again, because just burying it and pretending that this won't happen again. History has shown us that it does happen again, and that we do need to work toward a solution. The solution does not consist of burying the problem in the hopes that it won't occur again. Discussing it may be tedious, but so be it. We must work it out. I love you too <3 :)
 
12:15 PM
By the way @Moderators can I change my nick to something? This character is ruined for the month so I might as well make another one
 
@sbi "Sex" is a sensitive topic for a lot of people. Whether it's justified or not.
 
sbi
@Rapptz I am sorry, but I was almost off the grid for three days, due to this conference thing. And I am not done yet with this bigotry.
 
And you should let @user703016 change his nick to something other than Userxxx please :)
 
If you ended up discussing sex, at the very least, do it as professionally as possible.
 
@sbi I agree that we should set up intelligent rules, to protect us from the idiots out there. That's also why I think mods are on our side, being more thoughtful than the puritan crowd (well, maybe except that one mod)
 
12:16 PM
@sbi It's okay.
 
lol professionally discussing sex
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How do you talk professionally about sex?
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha Yeah. So is eating pork, allowing women to play soccer, or drinking beer. So?
 
@user703016 I don't see what's funny.
 
"Yeah I really wanted to have intercourse with my girlfriend for the sole purpose of procreation?"
 
12:16 PM
@MadaraUchiha Tell us how that would go
 
@MadaraUchiha "professionally" discussing sex on internet is quite a high expectation.
 
@Rapptz For starters, and I know it will sound idiotic, avoid the word "fuck".
 
sbi
@user703016 I see that you read through my comments on meta.
 
I'd discuss sex professionally but I don't get it
 
@TonyTheLion And yet it is an expectation nonetheless.
 
12:17 PM
the sex that is
 
@sbi always
 
it's a joke, ok
I'll go play tropico now
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha That is one of your problems then.
 
Yeah go play you loner.
 
@MadaraUchiha "fuck" is nowhere near talking about sex. You just wrote it yourself.
 
12:17 PM
that's el presidente for you!
 
goddamnit, @Rapptz and @AlexM. look like twins :(
 
@Mr.kbok Let me clarify.
 
@user703016 get paid for doing it
 
My name is in italics.
 
Avoid the word "fuck" when referring to having sex, during a discussion about sex.
 
12:18 PM
@LucDanton Damn it.
 
@MadaraUchiha Can we use "shag" then? As in shag9
 
It's not foolproof, and it's not complete, and you can criticize me and find a lot of holes in my logic. But it's a good rule of thumb to follow nonetheless.
 
I really don't think it is
 
Talk about regex moderation
 
@user703016 Remember that moderators respond to flags.
 
12:19 PM
So what's the new word we should use as a replacement?
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha For everybody who ever has spend more than 48hrs in the US, there can only be one answer to that demand: fuck it. That is so stupid. I mean, in my language we do not even use "fuck" as a swearword, so I have learn that from the Merkins. And now they're trying to make me pretend they don't do this?
 
@Rapptz :)
 
@MadaraUchiha I'm sure there's a perl regex option that does the same
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha Find holes in what logic?
 
@sbi It's only bad in the context of sex
 
12:19 PM
I try to take a more active approach and have a good time while I'm here as well. But don't think for a second that moderators look at this room like hawks just waiting for people to say "fuck"
 
@MadaraUchiha the word "fuck" means "having intercourse", and although it may be "offensive" to some, it is quite a normal word in most of Europe, and I don't necessarily find it wrong to use it in the context where it has meaning.
2
 
we would have noticed by now
 
sbi
@Mr.kbok Not according to the meta crowd.
 
I think the perl script is just not running atm.
 
Ell
I am a gigolo and I can indeed talk about sex professionally
 
12:20 PM
More like trying to find logic in those holes, amirite
 
@sbi That's what @MadaraUchiha meant.
 
We don't know when it's on.
 
@TonyTheLion Right, but the company is American, the rules were written by an American, most (if not all) employees are American, and most mods are also American.
 
@Jefery what else are you trying to find those holes bby
 
@sbi "Avoid the word fuck when talking about sex"
 
12:20 PM
So the standards are different.
 
@MadaraUchiha Ouch, very bad way to put it
inb4 flame war
 
@MadaraUchiha Bad choice of words.
Honestly feeling the cringe here.
 
@MadaraUchiha They should have considered other cultures too then, when making up silly rules about the usage of a particular word.
 
sbi
@Mr.kbok Yeah, great idea. We do not use it where it is appropriate and and then get smacked by the zealots when we use it elsewhere.
 
@MadaraUchiha So european users can piss off?
 
sbi
12:21 PM
@MadaraUchiha You don't say!? What about pork then? Alcohol? Female soccer?
 
@sbi Yeah. I don't think this is even necessary to discuss how stupid this is.
 
Pork and alcohol and female soccer are haram I am formal about this
 
@MadaraUchiha Most of the people in this room are European.
 
Just out of curiosity, where are the rules that forbids saying "fuck" in chat.SO?
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha And the customers (bringing in the profit) are...?
 
12:22 PM
I'm the only one atm who is American.
 
@Jefery from that meta brainfuck post I think
 
sbi
@Epoday: Look, I see three options to read your vague statements: 1) Chatrooms need to stay on topic. If so, point out the rule saying so, close the tavern along with probably 50% of the other rooms, and let's move on. Otherwise, though, stop bringing this up. 2) We can talk about cars, sports, alcohol, whatnot, but not about sex. If so, point out the rule saying so, and I will tell the other Loungers to STFU abotu sex. If there is no such rule, though stop pretending sex is different. 3) This is all bigotry. — sbi 2 days ago
 
@Rapptz Yes, but you're under the Stack Exchange platform.
 
sbi
@Mr.kbok Have you looked at that discussion's statistics??
@MadaraUchiha So you do not want our money?
 
@sbi I mean literally, the post about the work "brainfuck".
 
12:23 PM
@sbi I'm not here to worry about money.
 
I think we're getting sidetracked
 
@MadaraUchiha It's honestly a very very very bad idea to have this implication. I don't think even Stack Exchange talks about it.
 
sbi
@Mr.kbok So do I.
 
But I'm curious so I'm gonna look it up in meta.se
 
@sbi Let's find out then. It was a long time ago.
 
12:24 PM
@Rapptz I think it's implicit.
 
Let's see.
 
@Rapptz I think there’s at least one big, steaming post that has been of interest here in the past
 
lol "big, steaming post"
 
well it’s meta
 
meta c'est caca
 
sbi
12:25 PM
@MadaraUchiha We are the product SO sells. If SO doesn't want us, they lose profit.
This, more than anything else, is what makes them reign in the zealots who are foaming at their mouths every time this room's culture spills over into meta.
 
Rules should be clearly laid out, with clearly laid out consequences, that every can read and see, such that there can be no discussion. Vague and implied rules only bring about the kind of thing that happens in this room every so often.
 
@sbi I am not SO.
 
pls let's not get on the profit argument
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha I am not Europe.
 
I do not represent SO's business needs or speak for them legally.
 
sbi
12:26 PM
@MadaraUchiha I do not represent Europe's attitude towards "fuck".
 
I think that their attitude is "yes"
 
I can't find anything
Who wants to search with me
I promise it's not fun.
 
@Rapptz 30s tops
 
ikr
 
"Wanna fuck?" "Yes."
 
sbi
12:27 PM
 
I found this though, which gave me a chuckle.
-14
Q: Is it fair that stackoverflow's days are based on UTC time?

Brandon Boone Possible Duplicates: Make recent activity “today” etc. buttons based on user's time zone Change the definiton of a “day” to be localized for users For instance, I was so close to getting the Mortarboard badge (Yes, this would be an accomplishment for me) with 173 points earned, but t...

 
user1804599
hi
 
sbi
lo
 
@sbi vOv we will have disagreements over the policy, and I know that "don't use fuck" is basically regex moderation but I have a feeling it would be helpful. You may take my advice if you want to or not.
 
user1804599
@Rapptz Yes. This timezoneism is absolutely shocking.
 
12:28 PM
Do what you want
 
Welbog, Super Mario Land
37.7k 6 79 101
 
But know that if moderators come here following flags and they personally find the flags justified, they will use their powers, because that's kind of what we do.
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha Well, I do not want to bow to the stupid policy. You do not bow to the mullahs either, do you?
 
for your consideration, also funny
 
sbi
@Mr.kbok Yeah, "professionalism" my ass.
 
12:28 PM
@Mr.kbok @Rerito @Morwenn so who's up to meet in Paris or Rennes later this month
 
@sbi But you want to use Stack Overflow
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha That doesn't make it any less stupid, though.
 
@sbi Stupid or not, that is the "contract" you signed to when you started using Stack Overflow.
 
@MadaraUchiha Not especially.
 
@MadaraUchiha ?
 
12:29 PM
@Rapptz on my end the AE/BE thread rings some bells but seems hardly appropriate here
 
You can voice your objection, you can argue and raise your voice, and it may or may not be effective.
 
it seems clear to me that the Loungers, by and large, are not particularly keen on using SO, and may decide to leave.
staying here is just a mutual benefit
 
@user703016 I'm up for Paris, Rennes would probably be difficult
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha No, I don't.
 
user1804599
Doesn't matter to Stack Exchange as they all use AdBlock anyway.
 
12:30 PM
I looked at the content policy and there's no clause there about language as long as it isn't hate speech.
 
sbi
Have you had a look at my profile? I must be around 120k or so, but 3/4 of that come from old stuff. You have long since driven me away from sharing my knowledge. As so many others who were really good.
 
@sbi And yet, here we are.
 
user1804599
Except sehe, but sehe is sehe.
 
@Mr.kbok OK, what dates would be fine?
 
@Elyse Stack Overflow's primary business model isn't ads.
 
sbi
12:30 PM
@MadaraUchiha I am here quite rarely nowadays.
 
user1804599
@MadaraUchiha What is it, then?
 
hmm
 
user1804599
Careers?
 
neil buttersworth deletes his account regularly no
 
@Elyse Yeah
 
12:30 PM
@Rapptz Oh maybe I was thinking of the expletives one. May not have survived comment-nuking though.
 
I have 83 failing tests on Ubuntu on Travis, and 81 locally on Ubuntu.
that's double-plus ungood
 
@MadaraUchiha I don't recall there being any contract clause about writing "fuck"
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
user1804599
Maybe it's worth stopping using Careers.
 
@LucDanton I found AE/BE too but yeah not OT.
 
sbi
12:31 PM
@MadaraUchiha And voicing my objections I will.
 
@Rapptz So Arabic would be ambiguous wouldn't it :smirk:
 
@Mr.kbok Oh, that's my personal advice to you.
 
@user703016 Well I uh I'm here all the time :D
 
It doesn't say anywhere that you're not allowed to use "fuck" in a sentence.
 
@Mr.kbok Okay meet on the 24 chez toi
on dîne ensemble tout ça
 
12:32 PM
ITT cicada is going home for Xmas
 
sbi
@user703016 It's not just Neil, you know. How many of the old high-rep C++ tag users are still active?
 
not many
 
@zzzzBov: how true. But I'm not surprised that's from Stephen Fry. He's (sort-of :D) european and we "Old World" types are in general a lot more "lenient" here. — Jürgen A. Erhard Jun 30 '11 at 15:53
 
@sbi we're all p. bored of the questions asked.
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha Then stop implying it's in the contracts.
 
12:32 PM
@user703016 I leave for Le Mans on the 19th, and come back on the 28th. If you're not around Paris outside of that time, I can maybe arrange driving to Rennes but I'm not sure.
 
I think sehe and Jerry are the only ones left.
 
@Rapptz close enough, time’s up
 
@sbi The "contract" is to accept the fact that you are under rules and under moderation.
 
I couldn't find anything either.
 
sbi
12:33 PM
@MadaraUchiha And there is no such rule as you imply.
 
If you don't want to speak under moderation, there are alternatives, as I'm sure was discussed here thoroughly even without my help.
 
@Rapptz I’ve seriously restricted which tags I watch. Those tags I do watch happen to be very well answered already.
 
@sbi There isn't. Like I said, it's my personal advice to you, if you wish to be on the safe side.
 
@Mr.kbok Noted, waiting for the others, and I'll see what we can do!
 
fuck man it's 7:34 AM
 
sbi
12:34 PM
@MadaraUchiha So it's not in the contracts. So it's not verboten. So it's OK. Just as pork, alcohol, and female soccer.
 
and I didn't even work on my thing
gahh
also that fuck was not sexual, I do not want to sleep with a man
 
what thing
 
user1804599
drunk female pigs
 
@Rapptz homophobe
 
@user703016 asyncio garbage
 
12:34 PM
hi
 
@Rapptz yield from bin
 
Hello.
@user703016 -1 no parens
 
orphaned
 
@sbi And yet, people get banned over inappropriate sex talks, which are deemed derogatory, but no over pork, alcohol or female soccer.
Take that however you want. I need to leave now.
Have a good one :)
 
@MadaraUchiha I wouldn't be so sure over the middle one.
 
12:36 PM
how about female pork soccer with alcohol
 
user1804599
Female socker > male socker.
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha I want to chat under moderation. (Hell, I remember times when we asked moderators to intervene.) But I do not want to chat under a moderation that makes up rules which I didn't sign up for, nor under zealots leaning over me because I dare to say what is not verboten.
@MadaraUchiha And I argue against exactly this bigotry.
 
@MadaraUchiha We accept that. We set up our own rules to prevent the room from becoming a pool of crappy help vampire code, too. Moderation for the sake of keeping the discussion agreeable and productive is good. But there's nothing in the rules that say "no talking about intercourse" or "MTV banned words banned here too". The community even voted on this subject.
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@Mr.kbok See, I totally see a difference between "no talking about intercourse" and "people fucking one another"
 
lol
eyyy bby u wanna have intercourse
 
12:38 PM
The mood matters, a lot. It's ambiguous. You won't find C++ level absolute rules that either compile or not.
 
user1804599
@user703016 only with an ass-cactus
 
@MadaraUchiha I know you do, and I really wish you wouldn't focus on that.
 
I can guarantee you that if I asked my girlfriend "Want to do some intercourse?" I will not be getting any.
 
@Elyse Oi, careful.
@Mr.kbok But that's exactly the point, isn't it?
 
Feb 19 at 1:55, by Cat Plus Plus
Lounge Sex Tips Corner: it is a good idea to shout "COMMENCE DOCKING PROCEDURE" every time you do it
 
user1804599
12:38 PM
@Rapptz try it!
 
Elyse is careful / 0
 
The entire fiasco started because a moderator thought the conversation was "inappropriate"
 
@user703016 lmao
 
@MadaraUchiha That's where we disagree, and that's where the "MTV banned" form comes from.
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha And yet, "people fucking one another" is exactly what sexual intercourse is all about.
 
12:39 PM
yes the whole thing was a fiasco I hope everyone learned their lesson and we won't have this again in the future now let's move on cheers
 
@sbi And yet, one will get flagged, and the other probably not.
 
Cheers & hth.
 
user1804599
- jalf
 
No one gets hurts by a word that everyone knows what it means, and using a synonym doesn't help at all
 
@Elyse lol
 
sbi
12:40 PM
@MadaraUchiha And so this is nothing but stupid bigotry.
 
You don't get to decide how other people see what you type. You can only decide how much you care.
 
Words don't hurt people, people do!
 
And in this particular case, a particular mod cared.
 
ban bluefeet
 
@user703016 impressive recall
 
12:40 PM
bluefeet mate
 
@user703016 You aren't helping...
 
user1804599
One is not obliged to help, luckily.
 
@MadaraUchiha What is second degree
 
@MadaraUchiha usual behaviour here
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha What's that even mean?
@user703016 LOL!
 
12:41 PM
We call it joking around and having fun.
 
@Elyse No, they aren't. But then you can't really complain when we give up respectable discourse and turn to using tools.
Right, now I really need to go.
Catch up with you later
 
cya~~
 
bb
 
user1804599
Mods are gone, talk about sex!
 
@user703016 inb4 second-degree ban
 
12:42 PM
@MadaraUchiha What about people offended by PHP code? We have to setup ground rules of what is reasonable to ask.
 
sbi
@MadaraUchiha This isn't helping, you know. tongue in cheek
 
Since we have a new lounge meme
We should use it to denote sarcasm.
 
@LucDanton hmmm, so how to say in english
 
I propose ending your messages with #sarcasm
 
user1804599
Irony punctuation is any proposed form of notation used to denote irony or sarcasm in text. Written English lacks a standard way to mark irony, and several forms of punctuation have been proposed. Among the oldest and most frequently attested are the percontation point proposed by English printer Henry Denham in the 1580s, and the irony mark, used by Marcellin Jobard and French poet Alcanter de Brahm during the 19th century. Both marks take the form of a reversed question mark, "⸮". Irony punctuation is primarily used to indicate that a sentence should be understood at a second level. A bracketed...
 
user1804599
12:42 PM
use that
 
"You're hilarious #sarcasm"
 
that's a great idea #sarcasm
slowly converging to reddit /s
 
lmao
 
I use </sarcasm>
more professional
 
#disgusted
 
12:43 PM
@user703016 I’m no scholar so don’t have an answer off the top of my head
 
#disgusted
5 days later and I'm looking back at that post completely flabbergasted.
 
also ISIS has targeted Paris, the U.S. & London & Russia ... wonder whether Sydney will be the next
 
sbi
@Elyse This room still has users from the meta crowd in it, who, concluding from what they said on meta about the room, can only have one single reason for being here.
 
We should extract hashtags like they do in TPP
 
Someone typed that and thought to themselves "yeah this is a good comment"
 
user1804599
12:44 PM
(")(-_-)(")
 
@Luc wow, I can't find a translation
 
can I ask a puny questions?
 
@user703016 mayhaps 'rofl I was just kidding you piece of human trash'
 
user1804599
No, only pony ones
 
the subtleties of translation
 
12:45 PM
hehe xD
 
@LucDanton I'd add a "lmao" at the end to soften it up
 
With that said, the probability of dying in a terrorist attack in Sydney is less than getting killed in a car accident
 
yay mechjeb for 1.0.5
 
And I have not stopped driving cars yet
 
12:46 PM
ok the pony question is std::forward can be used in nontemplate code?
 
no it's forbidden #sarcasm
 
nontemplate code, lol
 
:(
ban this chmod right now please :D
 
~shine bright like a tire fire~
 
user1804599
12:48 PM
So happy that PHP has goto.
 
and stink like one
 
user1804599
Makes code generation much easier.
 
user1804599
@Puppy Maglev
 
@sbi sir I read some of your answers (though some dealt with hard constructs) , you're awesome :)
 
sbi
@AngelusMortis Thanks, but that's no longer true. I have probably given a dozen answers in the last few years. Nothing awesome about that.
 
12:50 PM
> [...] applications written in the most pervasive programming languages -- PHP, Java, Microsoft Classic ASP, .NET, iOS, Android, C and C++, JavaScript, ColdFusion, Ruby, and COBOL
 
oh my my apartment is such a cluster of intercourse
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Android and iOS are pervasive programming languages
 
@sbi I didn't check date of your answers but they were awesome and hence my deep heart appreciation :)
 
can we get a userscript that s/fuck/intercourse everywhere
 
sbi
@AngelusMortis Thanks. I appreciate you making the effort to say that.
 
12:52 PM
:)
 
sbi
@user703016 Yeah, and then nobody even knows why the mods are coming over us like vultures over a carcass. Sounds like a splendid idea.
 
sbi
Well, anyway. I think I'll go back to waging war on the Merkins now.
(And before anyone wants to ban me for that: I am playing Civilizations, and the Merkins happen to have all the oil and I won't be having that.)
 
Egyptians best race
 
@Mr.kbok I am pretty sure there were a few meta threads that explicitely allowed it on main in some situations.
 
12:53 PM
@chmod666telkitty sorry kitty, I don't think they care about australia :p
 
but that needs y'know context
 
@Mr.kbok don't care or scared of our poisonous creatures?
 
@BartekBanachewicz yeah.
@user703016 s/brainfuck/braintercourse/g
 
brainintercourse
 
12:56 PM
i propose we rename that tag as well
 
@user703016 btw can you drive
 
I don't know can you
 
I drove back home yesterday and the highway was literally empty
What would barket do
 
Yes I can but I haven't driven in some time now so idk
 
I just wished I had at least twice the horsepower
 
12:57 PM
I mentioned driving to Rennes so yes
I mean I won't be using a kart you know
 
sbi
Oh, one more thing: There were 15 of us last night, among them James, Björn, the robot, Xeo, melak, and a few other people we happened to pick up at the conference. We went to a Mexican place and had food and beer, and then switched to a bar and had way too many drinks. We went home around 1am. It was a glorious night and we had lots of fun. To everybody who wasn't in Berlin: You missed a damn good conference and a wonderful mini-unconference!
 
oh great thanks
It's not like I'm bitter to not be able to come already
 
sbi
In other news, my head almost doesn't hurt anymore.
 
Ell
Aww kbok
We can meet in Polandball unconference
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz How about he would shut up bragging about his driving for a change?
@Mr.kbok Sorry to hear. What kept you?
 
12:59 PM
@sbi Is this topic banned as well?
 
bartek driving is kind of a grandiose word for pressing the accelerator until the car hits something and he has to walk home
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