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1:00 PM
amazing.
 
cpx
@jalf I think you're right. The two books I have on UML doesn't even speak on those things which I was wondering about.
 
@sashoalm Did you SLASH HIS EYELIDS SO HE COULD WATCH THE END?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 8 hours is not that much, really
 
cpx
I'll leave it to the book rather than just wondering about useless things!
 
1:04 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes what
 
@BartekBanachewicz Depends what the program does.
 
@FlorisVelleman It's somewhere in here: youtube.com/watch?v=5wzDzF3VDS0
 
@sashoalm he was debugging a single run for 8 hours? whoa.
 
Yeah, I've noticed that :P. I'll be honest, I write in C. I like pointers. — BrainSteel 14 hours ago
 
cpx
Things aren't just as complex as I try to make them.
 
1:11 PM
This one likes to live dangerously
@KonradRudolph Oh how I love cocky idiots like you thinking they know everything and thinking they know more than everyone else :) It doesn't matter, I've tested the code 50 times in different places and it always causes the same error. Why is that so hard for you to accept, cause it'd mean you were wrong? I've already fixed the problem and I can assure you that you've got no idea what caused the error. I'm really into playing with you so we can continue this all day. — Markus Meskanen 5 hours ago
 
Oh gawd that guy is still there...
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        const struct { GLenum type, format; } tests[] = {
            { GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE, GL_RGBA },
        };
I love that syntax.
 
He's really into playing with you, kinda disturbing...
 
@BartekBanachewicz why?
 
@melak47 it's expressive and looks nice
 
1:18 PM
better? :p
 
user142019
tests := [...]struct{ type, format gl.GLenum }{
		{gl.GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE, gl.GL_RGBA},
}
// ftw
 
what's that? Go?
 
user142019
Go. :3
 
> The total world derivatives market has been estimated at about $791 trillion face or nominal value
holy shit
 
1:21 PM
it's a pretty funky language, too bad no one uses it
 
user142019
ITT: I am no one.
 
you don't use it per se; you never finish anything
 
user142019
That's quite irrelevant.
 
Like your projects.
 
"too bad no one finishes a project in Go"
 
1:21 PM
Ow.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D
 
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz Perhaps. But demos aren't interesting.
 
@EtiennedeMartel wait, what? Wasn't "Elemental" interesting for you? o.O
 
@BartekBanachewicz Didn't really look at it.
 
1:23 PM
Elemental damage is the best.
 
because it will get deleted. or the comments will.
 
What I find interesting about Epic's tech is their tools, not their engine.
 
1:23 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes "you should get out more"
 
wow, it's confusing opening that image in a browser at full scale.
 
@EtiennedeMartel pfff
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'LL KEEP YOU INSIDE ME!
Man, I feel like there's a Krieg quote appropriate to any situation. Maybe I should really get out more.
 
I take it you really enjoy Borderlands 2?
@ThePhD Anything by Sennheiser.
 
I have 87 hours logged on it.
 
1:26 PM
Almost as much as me.
I kinda stopped playing after the Torgue DLC.
 
@EtiennedeMartel okey, so when we create our own studio, I will write the engine, and you the tools
 
Despite having the season pass.
@BartekBanachewicz What about the asset pipeline? And "tools" is a pretty huge chunk of work. And let's not forget that an engine isn't only the renderer.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I will write the renderer.
> rendererer
 
It's gonna be the rendererest.
 
1:28 PM
:)
And voxelerest.
 
Anyway, what I'm getting at is: games are huge.
 
user142019
RendererFactory
 
Even the small artsy ones.
 
true.
that's why they should be written as big projects, but they are written as small ones and then you open up AAA game source and pretty much headdesk
 
@StackedCrooked that return is too complex, isn't it?
 
1:30 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That's another set of problems entirely.
 
btw
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A: Move semantics with a pointer to an internal buffer

Lightness Races in OrbitI'd do &m_buffer[0] again, simply so that you don't have to ask these questions. It's clearly not obviously intuitive, so don't do it. And, in doing so, you have nothing to lose whatsoever. Win-win. Foo::Foo(Foo&& f) : m_buffer(std::move(f.m_buffer)) , m_pointer(&m_buffer[0]) {} I'm comf...

 
@EtiennedeMartel and I am not entirely sure if I want to know the entire problem.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yepper
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, as Orwell once said, "All issues are political issues".
 
1:32 PM
I feel a self-answered SO Q coming on...
actually, cba
 
You lazy fuck.
 
@EtiennedeMartel and politics suck. I want to be concerned with technical issues :F
 
Withholding knowledge from world!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's complexity of the entire expression that counts? Not the actual recusion depth (which is zero in case of fib(0) )?
 
@StackedCrooked there are all sorts of rules
5.19/2
 
1:34 PM
@StackedCrooked It's not tail-recursive nor easily tail-recursiveable, and I have a feeling that's an important part of the heuristic that decides to evaluate on compilation or not.
 
@jalf You know, I'm reading the Wikipedia entry (obviously a paragon of independence and accuracy) and it really suggests that didn't have anything to do with it. His defence team didn't use the "Stand your ground" law, and there were a couple of eyewitnesses who reported seeing Martin attack Zimmerman. Based on the evidence reported there, I'm amazed it even went to trial, and can't imagine how the jury could have returned a guilty verdict.
 
I suspect the nested conditional operator is causing one of them to trip, but I'm not sure which
 
My factorial implementation is not tail-recursive either, but the transformation to tail-recursive form is mechanical and simple (and I know for a fact that GCC does know how to perform that transformation).
 
@DeadMG but again, the "stand your ground" law is what allows you to shoot and kill someone who is attacking you. If they didn't use that, then what did they use?
 
@jalf That's not quite accurate. It allows you to shoot and kill someone who is attacking you, without you having to try a number of other reasonable options first to protect yourself, like running away.
 
Xeo
1:37 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've lived in Berlin for 15 years, but I'm glad to say that I did not adapt that way of speaking :P
 
@DeadMG what do you mean? Usually, it is not legal to shoot and kill an unarmed person who is attacking you. It may certainly be a mitigating circumstance that he was attacking you, but only the stand your ground law gives you a carte blanche to just gun him down
@DeadMG and he didn't try to run away, did he?
 
Xeo
@Xeo: I think the question is meant in a way of "several allocations coming from a single contiguous block" rather than a single allocation being a contiguous block (asking that wouldn't make any sense at all!). — Damon 1 hour ago
wat
 
@jalf There's some shit about proportionally of retaliation or something.
 
@jalf His defence (and the two eyewitnesses) claimed that Martin was on top of him at the time, and was smashing his head into the ground, so there wasn't really much he could have done in terms of running away. And arguably, smashing his head into the concrete could well be seriously injuring or fatal if Martin used a degree of force, and Zimmerman did have head wounds on the back of his head.
 
You can't just shoot someone that slaps you in the face.
 
1:39 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes “while the German verb einpfeifen means "ringing out"” – I have never heard that definition
 
@KonradRudolph Arne says it only means that as a noun, not a verb.
 
Lightness Paces in Orbit
 
I have no idea what "to ring out" means in English.
 
@DeadMG This must go to trial. It must be carefully considered whether it was legitimate self-defense or not. Killing a person is not a trivial thing.
 
> Zimmerman was interviewed by Investigator D. Singleton
 
1:41 PM
That's my opinion btw.
 
I'm pretty sure that invalidates everything
 
That's a name?
There are people called Singleton?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes “to sound”
 
No, there's only one person called Singleton.
 
@StackedCrooked Trial based on what evidence? There's virtually none to oppose Zimmerman's argument. A trial is a waste of public money.
 
1:44 PM
@DeadMG kind of missing one point though (which, presumably, lacked evidence). Zimmerman wasn't assaulted. He, with a gun, accosted an unarmed kid
 
presumably, that's going to be "wasn't" and then something something
 
@jalf even that?
 
heh, ES spec is so short
 
Is it self defense if I threaten someone with a gun, they proceed to kick my ass, and I then "have to" shoot them?
 
like your cock!
 
1:45 PM
the fact that he carried a gun doesn't mean that he threatened Martin with it.
 
even ES3, being nearly over 2x the size, is still short
 
@DeadMG the fact that he is a self-styled vigilante kind of does
 
and there's no evidence to disprove his argument that Martin attacked him whilst he was walking back to his truck, as opposed to him attacking Martin
 
@jalf That's a personal character judgement, not a proof of guilt.
 
1:48 PM
@DeadMG Agreed. I'm not disputing the lack of evidence
 
> Sadly, this is possibly the most work-safe image of "a massive cock" that we can use here
 
@jalf For example, if Zimmerman assaulted Martin, then where are Martin's injuries?
only Zimmerman has any notable injuries (aside from Martin being shot, obviously)
even if you argue that Zimmerman accosted Martin, that doesn't give Martin the right to start bashing Zimmerman's head into the concrete, like the witnesses and injuries support that he did
 
@DeadMG Sure does. Stand your ground ring any bells? ;)
 
wow, thread on Opengl.org from 2000, and the guy is wondering if he will fit in 16MB of GPU memory
 
The number of head bashings is not a measure for whether or not there should be a trial.
The only required element is that one person killed another one.
 
1:50 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I had 32MB back then!
 
@DeadMG further, someone else not having the right to bash your head into the concrete doesn't grant you the right to shoot him either. Two wrongs don't make a right
but just for the record, given the evidence they had, and the fucked up laws they have, I can't dispute the outcome.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes they grow up so fast...
 
@jalf what if he feels threatened by Zimmerman being free? :p
 
@jalf I agree that two wrongs don't make a right. But I would argue that having your head be hit into the concrete, whilst the other guy is on top of you so you can't retreat, is a very serious assault, and Zimmerman could have died from head injuries if he did not act.
 
o_0 how to get green CI build... remove the dodgy test framework we have to use so that it doesn't fail
 
1:52 PM
@StackedCrooked You have to prove the circumstances of the death. The surrounding events are entirely relevant.
 
though to be fair, it is known that the framework does not work in the CI set up
 
Oh, for whether there should be a trial. Yes, okay.
 
or at the very least
if someone was smashing my head into a bunch of concrete, I would certainly take that as a potentially life-and-death situation for me.
 
@StackedCrooked Can the US afford a trial for every possible murder?
 
@BartekBanachewicz ITT people realise how much more powerful computers have got
 
1:53 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit They are relevant in your defense.
 
@DeadMG sure, but he brought himself in that situation by acting in a threatening manner towards another person
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't know.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "There should be a trial" and "we can have a trial" are two different things
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hence me asking.
 
@thecoshman I've always said that GPUs are absurdly fast
 
1:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Indeed
 
@DeadMG no argument there :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz you know, my current computer has as much GPU ram as my 5 or 6 year old one for system RAM. And at the roughly the same price for the system
 
but if he didn't want a confrontation, then maybe he shouldn't stalk random kids and leave his car to chase them down
 
Actaully... this PC was more expensive then my last one, as I didn't have to buy screen or drives for it
 
@BartekBanachewicz I dunno, I'm raytracing something on my GPU, and I wouldn't mind it being faster...
 
1:55 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes now I'm lost in Law category on Wikipedia
 
anyway, once again given the laws in place, I can't see how he could have been found guilty. But that just means it's legal, not that it is right
 
@jalf That really depends on how threatening he was.
I mean
 
@melak47 what are you raytracing?
 
@BartekBanachewicz geometry
 
there is a perfectly good possibility that he is guilty as fuck, that he assaulted Martin horrifically and Martin was just defending himself when Zimmerman shot him.
 
1:56 PM
@DeadMG if someone follows you in their car, and gets out of it to follow you, and they have a gun, then I'd say that's pretty damn threatening
 
so in that sense, I agree with you
 
@BartekBanachewicz damn unbiased rendering takes so long to converge :p
 
@jalf It's probably somewhat less threatening in the US when the community watch people of your specific community go around armed. It's not really the same as armed police here, where they're only brought out if serious shit goes down.
 
@melak47 Why are you not finding Professor Moriarty?
 
huh?
 
1:58 PM
but fundamentally, the only point I'm trying to make is that there is nowhere near enough evidence to contradict his account of events and find a Guilty verdict.
 
@melak47 "No shit Sherlock"
 
Ooooh, there's a new trailer for Gravity.
 
... are you guys really arguing about the case in Florida -_-"... really
 
WHAT
This is useless stub. — Beginner 12 mins ago
 
@thecoshman I could be raytracing voxels :p
 
1:59 PM
@melak47 is it your raytracer?
 
@BartekBanachewicz nah
nvidia's iray
 

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