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6:00 AM
teaches calculus lesson wait a minute...
 
There are some really good reads on SO, even if they're walls of texts. But people are more easily convinced to read a wall of text if you have a reputation to show, a seal of awesome, if you will.
 
Some walls can't be avoided, really. I've found myself unable to include any code or anything in a couple answers.
 
Jerry has that, Mystical, DeadMG, Robot, Cat++ even.
 
Wait, I was doing something before I came in here.
 
6:03 AM
@chris breaking things up into paragraphs, bolding key phrases, using that horizontal line in the right places...
 
And you really have to work hard to make sure people don't draw the wrong conclusions, writing a wall of text requires discipline. Because, if it is good, people are going to use it as a reference.
 
@DomagojPandža I sometimes wonder -- I've definitely gotten some downvotes (and the odd nasty comment) from people who didn't seem to have read what I wrote.
 
@Mysticial, Yeah, I try to do that when I can. Making it readable and not repetitive is a high priority.
 
@chris Here's an example of a "wall of text" answer that I broke up.
14
A: What is the advantage of using memset() in C

MysticialThis applies to both memset() and memcpy(): Less Code: As you have already mentioned, it's shorter - fewer lines of code. More Readable: Shorter usually makes it more readable as well. (memset() is more readable than that loop) It can be faster: It can sometimes allow more aggressive compiler o...

 
> neither a pointer nor a float necessarily have a 0/NULL representation of all zero-bits
 
6:05 AM
14 upvotes is pretty good for such a basic topic.
 
it took me ages to understand that
 
@Cicada Yeah, -0.0 is one.
 
@Mysticial, Yes, that formatting really helps your answer shine through. Sadly, a lot of people don't know how, or bother to write posts that people will want to read.
 
@Mysticial +1, that is some nice formatting and a good answer. Readability is as important as the content.
 
I think I finally got my mom to consider switching off of IE today.
 
6:07 AM
The moment I see a clogged up answer, no matter how good the content - I can't read that.
 
Another thing is to do: Short Answer, Long Answer.
Short answer will capture the passerbys.
 
@Mysticial I think some clarification may be in order on that point: with IEEE floating point, all bits zero is a value of 0. There are also some patterns with non-zero bit-patterns that give the value 0 as well. Of course, not all floating point is IEEE either though.
 
Long answer will get anyone who's curious enough to read through.
Lemme see if I can find an example of short answer/long answer that did well.
 
@DomagojPandža, The funny thing is that people who TL;DR a relatively small block of text will read through a larger amount of text if it's formatted well. It kind of puts the meaning of TL;DR to shame.
 
@JerryCoffin With IEEE floating point. I'm not even sure the C standard says what representation float should have.
That topic gets me horribly confused
 
6:10 AM
@Cicada It doesn't. But it usually is IEEE.
 
@Mysticial That's a good approach, used it here.
2
A: I'm leaking memory when creating a DirectX 10 buffer

Domagoj PandžaAs other answers have postulated the solution in a quick manner and comments are a bit too short - here goes - another quickie. You asked what else is needed to update the created buffers at runtime: You could change the buffer usage from D3D10_USAGE_DEFAULT (GPU read/write only) to D3D10_USAGE_...

Unfortunately, DirectX questions are largely left out of viewers because gamedev.SE opened. And when you start dry with a wall of text, well...
 
Lol, I made a long answer like that once
OP's reply "too long =/"
 
It is hard to portray difficult topics, you have to simplify, but not kill the point.
 
@Cicada It doesn't require IEEE, but has special provisions to support IEEE (technically, in its guise as IEC 60559).
 
@DomagojPandža It's still kinda long. One quick glance was still kind of a turn off. I"m not qualified to judge that answer. But the paragraph you have at the beginning is good.
 
6:13 AM
And I wrote one question on SO, something about JavaScript and WebGL, enjoyed all the walls of texts that appeared.
OPs should be grateful for the long answers spewing details, not lazy.
math.SE loves long answers. Picked up 12 upvotes on 5 km of text the first question I answered.
 
@DomagojPandža Oh yes. I've read quite a few of them. (especially the piano one) I was like wow... You HAVE to keep on reading.
 
@DomagojPandža I think it's much less about math.SE than simply that relatively new sites tend to be much more generous with up-votes.
 
physics.SE, although it's more or less dead, wrote up some stuff on relativity, quite a bit of upvotes for a first long answer for the "new guy"
 
Obviously, there are plenty of differences between C and C#. For instance, C# relies on a garbage collector to manage memory automatically whereas C requires you to do it manually... Oh, sorry; wrong site. — Mehrdad Nov 25 '10 at 3:05
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AHAHAHAHAHA
 
6:19 AM
I like those times when 5 people upvote an answer, and then after reading through more carefully, they all realize it was wrong.
 
It is awkward when someone with a huge rep makes a blatant mistake in an answer.
 
inb4 Luchian
 
And then you correct them and all of a sudden, they manage to interpret it as an assault on their pride/ego.
I like to be corrected, anytime. If you provide proof, I'll accept it and thank you. What's the point of living in denial?
 
If it's someone I've never seen, I assume they're new to the language.
 
@chris That sounds like an interesting project: see if I could write an answer that was definitely wrong, but sounded reasonable enough to get lots of upvotes...
 
6:25 AM
That would be hilarious to those who knew. People here are very keen usually, though.
 
@JerryCoffin That's pretty easy to do on performance questions.
 
@Cicada How did you know? :D
 
Just blame cache. And you will always get upvotes.
until someone calls you out
 
hey, stupid question... can I compile a C file as C++ without any real issues?
 
@Mysticial Somehow that reminds me of a white paper Bob Silverman wrote years ago.
 
6:27 AM
@user1220811 Mostly, yes
 
@JerryCoffin linky?
 
@user1220811 Usually.
 
ok tyvm
 
npyw
 
@Mysticial Last time I looked, I couldn't find it, but I'll take another look.
 
6:27 AM
:(
 
I just saw something from C that wouldn't work in C++ a few days ago, but I can't remember what.
 
@user1220811 C++ is partially backward compatible with C, but not in the sense of a true subset. A lot of the things were retained, so yeah - almost. Usually. Hopefully.
 
@chris Some constructs are indeed incompatible, but the vast majority are.
 
But i must ask, why?
 
Or is? Fuck you english.
Variable length arrays are incompatible
Can't think of anything else atm
lol Fred
 
6:29 AM
And OMG the number of people who use void main() is appalling. The C thing was a pretty big one IIRC, though.
 
Hard to get used to Fred's new look.
Smells like lambda calc.
 
I manage to link to the Style and Technique FAQ 10 times a day without actually bookmarking it.
 
Into main() god
Int
Return 1;
Lol
 
void mains are like "I have nothing to say to you, system."
 
Yeap
 
6:31 AM
@JamesDyson Each Word Deserves It's Own Line?
 
I use void if I'm doing something
 
That
should
be
a
language
rule.
 
Yes sehe
 
@DomagojPandža Which, frequently, is exactly how I feel about my adhoc programs
 
6:31 AM
void main() is what you do to make your program drunk. It negatively affects its environment.
 
@DomagojPandža You forgot to capitalize
Syntax
Error
 
Too lazy, brb, making script to capitalize each one.
 
@JamesDyson Shows why that doesn't scale well ;)
 
Hmm?
 
6:33 AM
"It"?
 
It girl?
 
Of course
 
Was to say it really does
 
The new Nvidia 690 costs $2000 in Croatia.
I am going to wait for AMD/ATI's response before thinking about replacing the 6990s.
 
Forget that. Buy a galaxy s2
Oh nvida
 
6:35 AM
Because you can do GPU boat programming on a phone
 
I'm using a (mismatching) pair of old Nvidias in my box... Not for SLI, but for quad monitors.
 
ah I read it as Nokia
Lol
 
...
 
I want a AMD 7000series
Which one?
 
Apr 13 at 13:27, by DeadMG
not even the Robot capitalizes "lol"
 
6:37 AM
Or amd in general
 
Mar 5 at 12:57, by R. Martinho Fernandes
lol is never capitalised. Not even when it starts a sentence.
 
Ok, a bit irrelevant, but I can't help this one:

Here is a recent experience of mine. I was stupefied! Somewhere in Louisiana....

A woman customer was playing One-Armed Bandit on the computer, and on one pull of the crank, she almost got a 777, but the last 7 was up too high for her to win. So she got a large industrial magnet and tried to drag down the 7.

I drove to her house, then I charged her $70.00 to tell her she ruined her new 19 inch monitor.
 
um what?
 
Serious?
Waaaa???
 
6:38 AM
That's not me btw, it's this again: rinkworks.com/stupid
 
Oh though that one is sexist...
 
Oh god mysticial
Lol
Some people huh?
 
My neighbour wanted to clean his computer housing, but a vacuum cleaner didn't cut it for him... So, he took it in the garden...
And used a hose.
 
That's a question for SuperUser.
 
Lol
 
6:40 AM
And then he called me "to see what's wrong".
 
Hahhhahaha
 
It's been six years since then, every time I see him - I smile.
 
Well, lobotomy need not be immediately (externally) apparent
(it can take a few good looks to see what's wrong)
 
Usually I get pissed off when people ask me to fix their stuff, but that was one entertaining house call.
 
Cause water + Electrics is great! xD
 
6:41 AM
I just asked him: "Why?"
 
@JamesDyson If it's truly just water (e.g., distilled water) it's rarely a problem. The problems arise when you have enough impurities for it to be electrically conductive.
 
Fit for the on chris
 
I'm getting that shirt.
 
@Mysticial "Damn your wife is an idiot, I sure hope she never had any babies."
Ow.
 
6:44 AM
Morning
 
@Jerry yeah well I say water in the general sense
Hahah afternoon
 
@RMartinhoFernandes What are you up to?
 
user784668
@JamesDyson Nope, morning.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Aren't you working?
 
6:45 AM
@Mysticial This isn't exactly the same one, but has some of the same kind of fallacious reasoning:
 
@ManofOneWay It's 7:45. I'm not at work yet.
Mar 5 at 12:57, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Yes, I'm making stuff up.
 
Oh. I didn't know robots did that :)
Good morning
 
brb at work in 10 mins
 
@Cicada You live at 10 mins of work!?
 
@JerryCoffin Where's the bad reasoning? Long article, haven't found it yet.
 
6:48 AM
I do.
10 minutes on foot.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Which for some reason reminds me of the old Dilbert where he's talking about his timecard, saying something to the effect that "oddly, the 3 hours I completely wasted in meetings is "work", but the 10 minutes in the shower were I actually solved the problem with our new product is "not work".
 
@RMartinhoFernandes sorry for being unclear, I mean what is the company doing you are working for.
 
One hour until Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut
 
@bamboon Erm, 10 minutes from home? I'm not sure I understand the question.
 
Shitstorm brewing status: 90%
Delicious tears volume, expected val: 12 liters.
 
6:51 AM
@Mysticial It's subtle and fairly carefully disguised, but for one example, under A.2.1, he tries to show that cache sizes weren't growing in accordance with Moore's law, but compares an old SPARCstation (i.e., a mid-range workstation for its time) with a then-current (bottom of the line) Intel. The other paper I was thinking of did much the same, using a VAX as the example of what was available in 1976, but a truly bottom of the line Celeron as the example of what was current.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes see above. edited the wrong comment.
 
@DomagojPandža Make it one message, for starring :)
 
Jerry is so old. :D
 
@JerryCoffin Oh yeah, I see it now. lol
 
@Mysticial Another one I liked was talking about how theoretical bandwidth correlates poorly with measured bandwidth for the general number field sieve -- but then compares the theoretical bandwidth of the VAX to the measured bandwidth of the current machine. [Un]fortunately, that doesn't seem to have made it into this paper.
 
6:54 AM
@sehe Emotionally fragile right now, my favorite franchise is going to die one last time when I download the damn thing from Origin in an hour. :(
 
@bamboon Ah. We're doing an app for students for Android tablets.
 
@DomagojPandža ?
 
@JerryCoffin The big problem with that section is that they seem to be unaware of the sieve algorithm that doesn't put any pressure on memory.
and works on an arbitrarily small cache
 
@RMartinhoFernandes ok cool, in JAVA?
 
@DomagojPandža Oh, they finished the "fixed" ending already?
 
6:56 AM
@sehe Oh, I keep forgetting that you're not a inclined towards gaming. It's the closure to the shitstorm around BioWare's Mass Effect 3 ending.
 
@bamboon Yes.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes oh, you traitor ;)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yup, comes out later today. :D
 
user784668
Dang. Dang. Triple dang.
 
@bamboon We looked into the NDK, but that thing is not really great.
 
user784668
6:57 AM
Nothing like some morning refactoring.
 
@Mysticial You have to realize that in this case, "unaware" is probably the wrong term. Bob is actually a smart guy (e.g., co-inventor of the multiple polynomial quadratic sieve) but has (had?) blinders permanently affixed because he was working for RSA labs, and his papers were all basically to assure customers that nothing and nobody could ever break any of their security.
 
We'll get to see why the dog took a shit on the cat, rather than not having the dog take a shit on the cat in the first pla... Second place.
 
Starting from its docs suck, and ending with it's probably more painful than the Java.
 
@JerryCoffin ah... open backdoor... hehe
 
@RMartinhoFernandes yeah, I can imagine that
 
6:59 AM
@JerryCoffin I just realized that it came from RSA itself. lol
 
@Mysticial I'm not sure about any back doors, but definitely displayed a bit of bias in a few places (well, okay, a lot of bias almost everywhere). I should add, however, that the "sieve" in question really is quite a bit different from the sieve of Eratosthenes, or anything like that.
 
user784668
Can somebody give me some headache pills?
 
@Fanael I'm fresh out of pills, but I can give you a headache
 
@Fanael Here you go: 0 0. Be sure to take them with water. Rest assured that no electrons were harmed in testing these pills.
 
@JerryCoffin right, that's a factoring sieve.
 
7:02 AM
@sehe Yep! Just arrived
(I go there by bycicle)
 
@Mysticial Exactly.
 
user784668
@sehe Don't you think that two headaches is a bit too much?
 
@Fanael Not at all. Especially the head-splitting kind. Usually comes in two parts
 
@Fanael That depends. How many heads do you have?
Two headaches divided among infinite heads is an incidence rate of 0.
 
user784668
@JerryCoffin How can I check that?
 
7:05 AM
@Fanael Start an argument in an empty room, and see how many sides there are?
 
cat /proc/headinfo | wc -l
 
@Fanael Cut one off. If you're still alive, you had two.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes At least two. So if you're still alive, cut off another...
 
inb4 "if you are a girl, then zero!"
 
user784668
@Cicada
 
user784668
7:05 AM
>> LANG=C cat /proc/headinfo | wc -l
cat: /proc/headinfo: No such file or directory
0
 
@JerryCoffin Decapitate, rinse, repeat.
 
@Fanael Must have executed that on a headless server (or workstation).
 
user784668
@Cicada Also, congrats, you won the Useless Use of cat award!
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Is rinsing necessary?
 
@Fanael Here I thought I was the only one who was bothered by that.
 
7:08 AM
Why useless
 
@Mysticial I think it's better to rinse all that blood.
 
user784668
@Cicada Because it's useless.
 
Prove it.
 
@Cicada wc -l /proc/headinfo
 
user784668
@Cicada You don't need cat here.
 
7:09 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes Nah, you do it at the end so you only need to rinse the blood once. Kinda like the Java garbage collector.
 
@Mysticial Yes. If you don't rinse off the blood, the chainsaw gets rusty. Yet another problem with kids nowadays: Doom makes them think blood won't rust their chainsaw. Oh wait, I guess actual "kids" don't even remember Doom.
 
nowadays... Doom... right.
 
Everyone needs a cat. It's one of the basic internet rules!
 
TIL: blood can rust a chainsaw
 
I can't believe you didn't know that.
cat somefile | echo
 
7:10 AM
@Cicada It doesn't happen in the games I've played.
 
@Cicada That's more like an useless use of echo.
 
@Cicada Ouch. How advanced do I have to be to avoid that one?
 
I haven't played Doom, but I have played L4D with chainsaws.
The chainsaw simply runs out of gas...
 
You haven't what?
Are you ten?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes No no, it's much more buffer efficient!
Because of the polarized ASCII
It's just like logarithms, really
 
user784668
7:13 AM
@Cicada cat file | tac | rev | cat | rev | cat | cat | tac | cat | cat
 
wait, shouldn't chainsaws be made of stainless steel?
Or is there something in blood that will corrode even that?
 
@Fanael: Thanks. I just discovered rev and tac thanks to you. :)
(Not that I see any use for rev right now)
 
@Mysticial Mine certainly isn't. I guess right now (well, not right now, but in the morning) I could try to take a poll. We have ~450 firefighters in town fighting a forest fire. I'd guess between them, they probably know everything about nearly every chainsaw ever made...
 
@Mysticial You should ask these mexican gangs that behead their enemies with chainsaws
 
Are they stupid or what?
That's a terrible way of getting rid of enemies.
 
7:17 AM
@JerryCoffin Wait what? You have a forest fire in town and you're sitting here talking about chainsaws?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Really? Really?
 
#1 It's melee. #2 It's messy. #3 Needs care to not hack yourself off. #4 Needs gas.
Just shoot them.
 
@Mysticial Well, technically not in town -- a few miles away. Pretty close though. This was taken from my back deck:
 
@RMartinhoFernandes And it's violent. Good way to scare off more enemies.
 
@Cicada Not if they're smart. They'll just shoot you before you can even start the chainsaw.
 
user784668
7:19 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes 1. Shoot your enemy. 2. Use your chainsaw. 4. ??? 8. PROFIT!
 
@JerryCoffin ah
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I mean they execute their prisoners using chainsaws
They don't fight with
 
I also don't get how a chainsaw can cut zombies up so efficiently in L4D. Is that even realistic. I mean, it takes more than a split second to sever a skeleton.
 
@Mysticial Hmmmm you'd be surprised
 
user784668
@Mysticial Zombies? Sure, it's realistic.
 
7:20 AM
You pick a corner and hold up a chainsaw. And they all run at you and get cut up instantly.
 
I feel pretty safe though. The Air Force Academy is between it and me. The last big fire, the commander of the Academy pointed out the resources he'd use to stop a fire if it got too close (something about "I'll have more equipment here in one day than they've assembled in a month -- and while they may not be as well trained, I'll throw 10000 men at it without even blinking").
 
Maybe zombieness makes their skeleton softer.
 
@Cicada Have you tried it?
 
@Mysticial I've seen videos
 
@Cicada I mean like in real life. Cutting up bodies with chainsaws.
 
@Mysticial Well. A video of someone beheading another living human with a chainsaw?
 
I turn around for 5 seconds and you guys start talking about chainsaws, cutting bodies and how blood affects longterm performance of a chainsaw.
 
@JerryCoffin Oh THAT one... yeah I've seen the V8 chainsaw before... haha
 
@Cicada Zombies are not living.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Not sure that makes any difference
Also, it depends on your definition of life
 
7:25 AM
@Cicada Um... yeah :)
 
There. Unsubscribed from c-a-d. Haven't seen a single post mildly interesting/amusing since I subcribed:
 
@Cicada No it doesn't. Zombies are not living by definition.
 
Jun 3 at 22:04, by sehe
Computer Aided Design?
 
@Mysticial Well you can find it around the web if you really want to see it
 
Every time there's a big chainsaw involved, somehow a bearded fat american is around.
 
7:26 AM
Whatever is the definition of life, zombies are not it.
Otherwise, they wouldn't be zombies.
 
@Cicada Um... nah...
 
Still makes no difference
 
@DomagojPandža That's kinda true actually.
 
@DomagojPandža Hmm..not sure about that. (Some) Canadians are big on that too.
 
@JerryCoffin That is leet! Congratz
 
7:27 AM
@sehe leeeet.
 
@sehe Thanks. Only had to cheat a little (three fake downvotes) to do it...
 
@JerryCoffin Brilliant
@RMartinhoFernandes Brilliant
 
Brilliant.
 
7:29 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes We know. Trust us.
 
Brilliant.
 
Aunt Brill
 
24 secs ago, by sehe
@RMartinhoFernandes We know. Trust us.
 
user784668
@RMartinhoFernandes Ḃŕīļļīãńŧ.
 
7:30 AM
@Fanael That took time. Now I understand why you have a headache
@RMartinhoFernandes Still thanks for linking me again. Lol-ed at
> ** Yes, Boston. That's one of the nice things about living in Cleveland: visiting just about any other city in the US a really cool experience.
 
mawning
 
@sehe Years ago, a radio station in Cincinnati had a contest. Third place prize was 3 nights in a 5-star hotel in Cleveland. Second place was one night. First place was getting to stay at home in Cincinnati.
@TonyTheLion Hey Tony.
 
user784668
@TonyTheLion Any new porn?
 
nope
I don't own any Pr0n Production Inc. btw
else I'd be filthy rich, and I'm not
 
user784668
7:37 AM
@TonyTheLion You… you… you don't?
 
user784668
Man, that sucks.
 
@TonyTheLion And if not filthy rich, at least filthy. :-)
 
oh gawd
 
Well, it's nearly 2AM here. I guess I need to vaguely imitate a normal human being and go to bed before sunrise.
 
you should, especially if you have to work tomo
 
user784668
7:40 AM
@TonyTheLion today
 
don't be pedantic
:P
 
user784668
@JerryCoffin You don't.
 
@Fanael I didn't used to. But then I got married...
G'night all.
 
same, almost 3AM here
night
 
7:41 AM
night
I want to sleep too
meh
 
user784668
Poor Americans.
 
lucky Americans, they can sleep now :P
 
You can sleep anytime.
 
not when you're supposed to work
 
user784668
@TonyTheLion lol
 
7:44 AM
wtf is this:
0
A: C : Strange error when using float and double

izomorphius3.4 has an exact representation in double it is .34 * 10^1. The representation of 3.4 in float, however is infinite 1/5 is not a finite fraction in binary and thus rounding occurs. So the comparison only holds true for double.

 
anyways, night for real
 
user784668
@Mysticial Well, it's a Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
 
user784668
@TonyTheLion Why not?
 
cause
work
 
user784668
7:48 AM
@TonyTheLion What?
 
I have a job interview next week, and they sent me the test to do before the interview
 
user784668
@TonyTheLion Cheat!
 
@Mysticial strange assertions
 
@TonyTheLion that's not meaningful, but then i don't know where to point you
 
7:50 AM
@CheersandhthAlf you already read the whole thing?
 
user784668
Why the full star list doesn't provide a way to show the most starred messages instead of the most recent ones?
 
@TonyTheLion just the first few sentences. it's rubbish. for example, since the equations of quantum physics are linear, they don't apply very well to large scale phenomena where things don't pass right through each other
 
because SO
@CheersandhthAlf ah, so I assume you know Quantum stuff?
 
Can't sync blocks in CUDA :< sucks
 
YES! I think I solved my SSL problem! Can I post a tutorial on the site to help other SSL programmers out?
I had a rough time
 
7:58 AM
@CheersandhthAlf there are a lof of linear approximation in physics. Moreover quantum field theory is based on them (it doesn't account for higher order of interactions).
 
SO is not the place to post tutorials
 
Ah, ok
 
@user1220811 You may post a Q&A, where you answer your own question, but for the community to really embrace such a thing your question has to be at least intermediate (preferably advanced), and well-written, not just a slab of text.
 

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