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4:00 PM
right
time to enquire about another job
 
@Telkitty I don't mean "not geniuses". I mean "idiots"
 
user1357851
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I am not sure people with IQ below 50 are in fact breeding
 
idiots are mostly unemployed, strutting around the pavements at 2pm drinking Red Strike, leering at everyone and generally causing a nuisance. They wear sports clothing from top to bottom and have three teeth
 
@thecoshman We victimise Tony?
 
@Telkitty I can fucking guarantee you that they are.
 
4:01 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I can show you
 
@DeadMG What's wrong with your current one?
@sehe No thank you.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What current one?
 
user1357851
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I am curious how you can be so sure
 
@DeadMG Okay then
 
Why can I wait() on a const future but no wait_until()?
 
4:01 PM
@Telkitty Because you can see them on the street with four pushchairs. Always.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ¬_¬ you sir, are an idiot, and are thus treated as one. it is not because of anything but the fact you are an idiot. being a girl would not change this. being black would not change this. being Indian would not change this. being gay would not change this. being the Queen would not change this. All that matters is that you are being an idiot and are thus treated as one
 
teenage pregnancies, duh
 
@FlorianMargaine I think you underestimate the amount of traffic the Lounge gets on a regular workday
 
@thecoshman Correct. Which means you are discriminating against idiots.
 
4:02 PM
No, wait, broken cppreference.
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[[de:cpp/thread/future/wait until]]
[[es:cpp/thread/future/wait until]]
[[fr:cpp/thread/future/wait until]]
[[it:cpp/thread/future/wait until]]
[[ja:cpp/thread/future/wait until]]
[[pt:cpp/thread/future/wait until]]
[[ru:cpp/thread/future/wait until]]
[[zh:cpp/thread/future/wait until]]
 
@EtiennedeMartel Imaginative name
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Which is fine. It would be strange and unfriendly not to discriminate
 
ANd this is the fucking source.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Terribly.
 
How the heck am I supposed to fix it now.
 
4:03 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ¬_¬ further to my point
 
@sehe I wholeheartedly agree.
@sehe Some of these other people seem to think that everybody gets treated equally. It is not true, though, and there is no reason that it should become true.
 
People wouldn't actually like it should it become true
 
K, fixed it. I hate that wiki
 
on the internet you are stripped of all identity, you are free to present your self how you wish, to be who you want to be, to release yourself from prejudice. If you chose to be an idiot, then you deserve all the mockery that comes with it.
 
in soviet russia that wiki hates your mom
@thecoshman I don't think anyone chooses to be an idiot.
(except in times of trolling, of course)
 
4:05 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's not about treating them equally, it's about not have prejudice you fuck tard
 
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/7849918#7849918
Ok, the correct answer is 'int'/'int'. After some digging and with the help of Charles Bailey the reason is:
Lookup for dependent names is performed in the same context as first phase lookup, and the _namespaces associated_ with the types of the function argumets in both the context of the template definition and instantiation (14.6.4p1). Fundamental types don't have _associated namespaces_ (3.4.2p2)
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit be an idiot != act like an idiot
 
@thecoshman You've already admitted that you are prejudiced against idiots.
 
Figured something to do to reply some good C++ questions. Find those that someone replied as comment, and try to expand the comment to a decent reply with explanation :)
 
@sehe True. B doesn't imply A. However, A does necessitate B.
lol that wasn't me
 
4:05 PM
Daaaamn it.
 
Oh come on now
 
What the heck is going on?
 
Someone's flaggin'.
 
I found several "unanswered" questions that actually are solved but with the solution as comment.
 
yes I noticed
 
4:06 PM
Thus giving me enough reason to whine like a bitch.
 
They be flaggin', hatin'
 
Flags in the C++ room. Such a rarity
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We tromp on them hard normally
 
@NikiC When it happens, it's usually the work of a single person who did not understand how we dislike flags here.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what the hell is wrong with you? do you know what prejudice is? I treat people as idiots once I see they are idiots. I do not see that they are some other sort of person and then decided the dirty fecker must be banned. I wait for the person to show they are idiotic, and then react to it. that is not prejudice.
 
4:07 PM
@EtiennedeMartel How do you know who it is?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I flagged the 'you fuck tard'. I am fine with adult language, but when it comes personal...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm assuming stuff.
I'm assuming so much that my face now looks like my ass.
 
@thecoshman Finally you have arrived at the coherent version of your argument. :) What you just said, is correct. Shame you had to be so rude about it, though.
 
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas Oh, right. You don't know how we do things here...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's a shame you had to be so fucking obtuse
 
4:08 PM
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas Agreed. The flag system exists for a reason, and this lounge is not excused from SE policies.
 
I did not know you dislike 'flags', but I dislike that 'comment' and... well, why did the dog lick its parts? Because it could
 
fuckitty fuck fucks
 
@Cicada Tits.
 
@thecoshman Who pissed on your cornflakes today, anyway?
 
@thecoshman He's like a fat triangle.
 
4:08 PM
ITT Lightness is fat
 
@EtiennedeMartel You say "we" as if that somehow magically excludes the people who are also here but happen to disagree with you
 
I can't be arsed with this shit
 
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas ooooh, interesting. /cc @Xeo
 
4:09 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The magic of language.
 
@thecoshman earlier indicated that the lack of drama was upsetting him. I hope that this has been a valuable lesson.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I've been here a while, so I can pull stuff right out my ass and it'll still sound plausible.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit He never said how he defined "we"
 
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas It's usual around here
 
You know what, fuck you all until you've decided to stop arguing
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4:10 PM
@EtiennedeMartel It makes no difference how long you've been here
@TonyTheLion haha :D
@Cicada I did it!
 
@TonyTheLion Oï.
 
u did wot m8
 
@kbok true
3 hours ago, by Cicada
ITT Tomalak failing at drama
This time I hope I have made you proud, my love
 
J'aime pas trop les joies du code remarque
Je le trouve pédant et surtout pas passionné du tout par son métier
Enfin bon
 
Hahahhahahaha
 
Comment tu peux voir autant de trucs dans un tumblr de gifs animés
 
@Cicada C'est lui qui l'a dit!
 
haha "senor gif"
 
woa, so much french in there.
 
4:13 PM
@kbok Dans les commentaires banane
 
@FlorianMargaine Only two.
 
@FlorianMargaine I'm not French.
 
Sorry wrong image
Fuck tablets
 
Oh wait.
You are.
 
4:13 PM
I am
 
C'est toi la banane j'ai que ca a faire de lire les commentaires peut-être
 
Disgregard what I just said.
 
@kbok Et il sait même pas taper un ç
 
I'm too lazy to check people's profiles.
 
:visagepaume:
 
4:14 PM
starred for later re-use
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Mange mon pain.
 
@Cicada En effet je sais pas
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah because Florian totally sounds Arab right
 
@Cicada having us keyboard layout, it's quite normal
 
(J'ai un clavier mac qwerty)
 
4:14 PM
@EtiennedeMartel haha
 
Ell
gah every time I try and use a custom deleter with a unique_ptr I forget how it works
 
@kbok hahaha faggot
 
@Cicada racist
 
(yes, I'm french and I use us layout)
 
@EtiennedeMartel close enough
 
4:15 PM
@Cicada Je suce solidement au niveau des noms.
@thecoshman <3
 
@EtiennedeMartel Tant que ça n'est qu'au niveau des noms...
 
she didn't reciprocate my love :(
 
@EtiennedeMartel what do you mean by that?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you know I love you already!
 
oh dear
@Cicada oh, okay :)
 
4:16 PM
WHO THE FUCK IS FLAGGING
 
Please leave the premises @kbok
 
@kbok the French are atrocities
 
I flagged "you're the faggot" because there is no place for accusations like that on Stack Exchange. Please read the fucking T&Cs.
 
@kbok I do and I'm very efficient with it. çççççç
 
@Reno Hm?
 
4:16 PM
¬_¬ I don't think I spelled that right at all
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit flagged for "fucking" ~~
 
Okay, okay, everyone, chill out.
This is getting out of hand.
 
The parties are advised to chill
 
9 mins ago, by David Rodríguez - dribeas
@EtiennedeMartel I flagged the 'you fuck tard'. I am fine with adult language, but when it comes personal...
@Cicada ^ that
 
@EtiennedeMartel flag ALL THE FUCKING THINGS!
 
4:17 PM
ahaha I knew it
 
oh my. flag war...
 
Stop it.
 
Good advice for any hour of the Lounge!
 
Fucking hell, it's like a bunch of kids.
 
d r a m a
 
Ell
4:17 PM
I can't see any flags xD
 
@Cicada But you're inefficient at \
 
I would vote for lock down... but I think most of us are whitelisted anyway
 
We should invade the C# room
@kbok You mean this ? \
 
Seriously, though, if you do not "like" the flag system, or acknowledge the right of each single person here to use it, fuck off someplace else.
 
@Cicada He meant "flags"
 
4:18 PM
The issue with the flags is that they bother everyone on the whole network.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you're retarded too
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit equally, if you are not willing to accept our own rules, fuck off
 
flags are not room local
 
Dafuq is going on in here?!
 
so they suck
 
4:18 PM
This room looks nice in blue
 
Then complain about the system on meta. But you shall not prevent people from using it.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit WE ALREADY DID LIKE A BILLION TIMES
 
@thecoshman Lounge rules shall not override network rules.
 
i'm plonking you
 
We actually did that for a pretty long time
 
4:19 PM
I'm not preventing anyone. I'm asking you to refrain from flagging unless it's necessary.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit why the fuck not?
 
Why are we saying fuck a lot
Why is Tomalak being a baby
 
Feb 11 at 14:17, by Cat Plus Plus
Old here? Do us a favour, and don't announce your plonks. Seriously.
 
@Rapptz points to be proving
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit We did. They don't do anything about it. At all.
 
4:19 PM
@Rapptz This is not being a baby! I am standing up for my rights as a Stack Exchange citizen!
 
STOP FACKING FLAGGING YOU SILLY MORONS
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Tomalak the Drama Factory.
 
"Complain on Meta" only works when Meta does something.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit for the last time damn you! if the cat said it, ignore it!
 
6 mins ago, by Etienne de Martel
Disgregard what I just said.
omg 8 flags hahaha
 
4:20 PM
@TonyTheLion needs more fucking
 
Flags get out of hand quickly.
 
fap fap fap
 
8 flags for a message saying "flags should be used".
 
flags are the wedge driving us apart
 
When you flag something, you're asking someone in another room to determine if, out of context, the message looks offensive.
 
4:21 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you should have known better
 
Sometimes I think auto_flagging is set to true
 
The problem is the "out of context" part.
 
@EtiennedeMartel There is nothing contextual about "you're the faggot". And, if context is required, transcripts are public.
@NikiC I did, but it ended up not altering my decision.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yes, there is, if you stuck around long enough to realize how common that expression is here.
 
Can we go read only please
 
4:22 PM
Who was that one guy who came in here and bitched hardcore about the flags?
 
It carries no negative connotation.
 
You may be a room owner, but this is not your own private domain. We are all, together, part of a wider public community.
 
I have no real power as an owner.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit whoa approved by 8 user ... looks like its hard time for now :P:P
 
@thecoshman Seriously?!
 
4:22 PM
how much you need to merge tags?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yes
 
this place is a mess
 
there are a tag I want merged but meta agrees in merging but never merge
 
@thecoshman I suggest you go take a lie down!
 
@TonyTheLion please, read only for a bit
 
4:22 PM
I also suggest going read only
 
you know, you should realize that you're not school children anymore
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yup ....
 
I think some people here think that there is some serious business going on. I contend that they are incorrect.
 
this room is a joke
no serious here
 
Hey, Lounge! Move your energies over to this hulk of shite:
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Q: Interactive Segmentation Tool-Box matlab internal error

user1392359When we run the matlab code provided by http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mohitg/segmentation.htm, we will meet an internal error. The problem is that the data type provide by matlab is uint16. But when it transferred to C++, it should be double. So we need do the change in Matlab. In matlab file Segment.m,...

 
4:23 PM
If serious, GTFO
 
Why not go read only?
 
Seems fun.
 
@Rapptz Because a read-only chatroom is a retarded concept
We totally broke @thecoshman
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well some of us have explicit access.
 
4:24 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What? You throw shit everywhere, starting drama, and then you say "Let's change the subject"?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it saves us from fuck tards
 
@Rapptz ah
So it's like a limited-access thing?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 'we', lol, if only it was
 
Only approved can talk.
 
@Rapptz Cool feature
 
4:24 PM
@thecoshman Where are those rules stated? Why are you more a ruler of this chat than anyone else? The freedom of one ends where the freedom of the next starts.
 
later sissies
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas starboard bitch
 
yesterday, by Lightness Races in Orbit
New here? Do us a favour, and read this.
the room rules ^
 
out
 
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas There are rules there. But nothing explicit about what happens when someone starts stirring shit for the lulz.
 
if you can't follow and grasp, GTFO
 
Ell
4:25 PM
`std::unique_ptr<GLuint, decltype( [](GLuint* s){glDeleteShader(*s);} )> glHandle;`
^there is no way to do this without having a named lambda is there?
 
3 hours ago, by thecoshman
Lounge drama is always so short lived
^ I trust the problem is remedied, sire.
 
@thecoshman that was somewhat over the top
 
@Ell no.
 
oh god, people are still flagging?
 
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas did not do anything to deserve being called that
 
4:26 PM
okay who flagged that? That's silly
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You're hard to follow, you know.
 
I have a suggestion
for the next 30 seconds, let us all pretend to be grown-ups, mkay?
 
@EtiennedeMartel (a) I know. (b) I never said I was for flagging every message ever
 
all of us, no exceptions. Even me. :)
 
Ell
@DeadMG Will I just have to create a load of ...Deleter functors/lambdas then?
 
4:26 PM
@jalf :)
 
Anyone here ever used D?
 
@jalf Let's lose this mystical notion that flagging entails not being a grown-up.
 
@speeder I think @DeadMG did.
 
@speeder No - it was already illegal in this jurisdiction before I was born :(
 
I automatically assumed Tomalak was joking because it seemed ridiculous even for him but now I'm not sure.
 
4:27 PM
@Rapptz I think he's still trolling us.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I actually haven't been trolling you at all today, and that's the truth.
 
@Ell Yep.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Frankly, I haven't needed to!
 
@EtiennedeMartel The rules don't say that you should not flag, just to consider the impact of that. I still consider that direct insults should be banned (in this case flagged). I will keep my opinion on thecoshm to myself.
 
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas ^ that
 
4:28 PM
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas You can say them. He probably won't flag your stuff.
 
I've never flagged here.
 
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Q: Interactive Segmentation Tool-Box matlab internal error

user1392359When we run the matlab code provided by http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mohitg/segmentation.htm, we will meet an internal error. The problem is that the data type provide by matlab is uint16. But when it transferred to C++, it should be double. So we need do the change in Matlab. In matlab file Segment.m,...

 
well
 
We constantly fling insults here.
 
4:28 PM
I kind of assume people here have.. well thick skin.
It's the internet.
 
We're like one giant fraternity of douche bags.
 
People will always insult you, why is this a surprise to you?
 
Correct. It's like a training ground for the harsh reality of, say, er, Meta.
 
the fact of the situation is that the Meta Police don't enforce the site rules here
it's the upside of them not giving a shit about us
 
The flags! The flags! Someone's salty.
 
4:29 PM
We once had a guy who went ballistic because he took everything we said seriously.
 
@DeadMG Then explain all the people flagging things.
 
the correlating downside being that they never fix anything or implement any new features.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Lol... do you remember roughly when? I will try to find it
 
@EtiennedeMartel: It is just a matter of personal opinion. I consider that people resort to insults when they don't have valid things to do. Resorting to insults says more of the insulter than the person being insulted.
 
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas Depends on the insult!
 
4:29 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The guy was Chimera.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Good memory
 
He was a regular.
 
@Rapptz It was back before he was a regular.
 
I think he left because we weren't conservatives.
 
He later came on and apologized. Haven't seen him in a while, though.
 
4:30 PM
@Rapptz Speak for yourself
 
"Most of us"
 
@Rapptz We did have friendly conversations.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah we did.
 
@EtiennedeMartel 2nd Jan
 
Last thing I remember was that he bought a house
 
4:31 PM
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas Well, the issue is: what constitutes an insult?
 
I guess to me 'you fuck tard' is beyond the line
 
If you insult me, I probably won't get affected.
Because I don't care for that. It's just words.
 
Get a thicker skin?
 
So, it varies from person to person.
 
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas It's not even spelt correctly!
@EtiennedeMartel When I insult you it won't be just words :D
 
4:32 PM
There are better things to worry about than some stranger insulting you.
 
Oh, I guess that makes it a non-insult ;)
 
Hey C++, I did my first serious reply on C++ (where I researched, used proper formatting, and so on). Is it good? stackoverflow.com/questions/8275203/…
 
@DavidRodríguez-dribeas Yeah I think it kind of loops back around in that instance
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That would imply getting here. And not getting killed by the cold.
 
@speeder looks neato.
 
4:32 PM
@speeder You're along the right lines! I'd make the headers a bit smaller.
 
At any rate, need to get some work done. See you
 
@speeder Hang on.. your first serious reply on C++... in three years!?
 
how I change the headers size?
 
@speeder Instead of a period use </br>
 
@EtiennedeMartel Nope it just requires intent behind the words
@Rapptz You mean <br/>, and actually I prefer <!-- -->
 
4:33 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol dude
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh.
 
Ah nice :) How I make it understand that <something.h> is not a html tag?
 
@speeder Backticks delimit inline code: `<something.h>` -> <something.h>
@ScottW Just for that.... I won't :D
@ScottW A freebie
 
Flag baiting. Now that's new.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit erm... yes. On my first year I mostly asked questions, later I swithced to reply Lua and Corona SDK stuff. Now I decided to venture into C++, see if there are anything that noone replied yet.
 
4:34 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Starbaiting is so last week
@speeder Oh I see, tag-specific. Okay.
 
@Rapptz or better still, add two space at the end of the line. Markdown will interpret it as an actual line break then
@speeder backticks? `<this is not a html tag>`
 
@jalf I remember reading that but on reddit. Not sure if it works with SO's markdown parser.
 
backticks worked :) I improved the stuff there.
 
yeah that looks good
could use a few more backticks
and I haven't even checked whether it answers the question
 
4:37 PM
@Rapptz it did last time I tried :)
 
more backticks???
 
The backtick lobby won't upvote your post without enough of them
 
Ell
ughh why is glDeleteShader not declared in this scope? :'( I have included the opengl headers! gah
 
@speeder you can never have too many backticks
 
I don't like edits that just add backticks.
 
4:43 PM
oh, I found that backtick make stuff shaded
nice
 
:(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you have absurd rep, can you merge a tag for me?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit and @Collin : Why does this compile? pastebin.com/HfuBtDsU
i put in using namespace std; twice.
 
@speeder You need to ask that on meta.
 
@Rapptz I asked, people agreed with me, and noone did it.
:(
 
4:45 PM
@GamesBrainiac Why wouldn't it?
@speeder Have to wait a bit, meta is only productive when deleting tags.
 
I want to merge corona and coronasdk tags
@Rapptz I asked that several months ago
 
@Rapptz : Should not declaring the same statement twice give an error?
 
@GamesBrainiac why wouldn't that compile? "when you look up names in this namespace, look in std as well. Oh, and when you look up names in this namespace, look in std as well"
It is unnecessary, but not harmful.
 
@jalf : Thanks for that. But should it not give an error? I mean, why on earth would you want to do this?
Or a warning atleast
 
@GamesBrainiac why would it? It's harmless, and doing it isn't indicative that "you probably have an error"
Warnings are generally for "things that are technically legal, but might camouflage an error"
Also, what if you instead included two headers, both of which contained that line? Should that be an error?
That would be painful. :)
 
4:47 PM
@jalf : So, therefore it is not really a declaration, now is it?
Technically speaking.
 
@GamesBrainiac true, it isn't. :)
 
@jalf : That makes sense then
Also, is there something like import this as t like in python?
somethign like using namespace std as standard;
 
Ell
okay wtf. This maketh no sense to mee! :'(
 
@GamesBrainiac Why not? You can declare anything you want as many times as you want.
 
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A: Make the "corona" tag synonym of "coronasdk"

kiamlalunoActually, corona, and coronasdk have a tag excerpt, and a tag wiki that contain a description of (or a reference to) the Corona SDK. This means the purpose of both the tags is the same. There are 164 questions that use both the tags. The tags should be merged.

 
4:51 PM
@DeadMG : Nope you cant. It gives an error. You cannot make the same declaration twice.
And therefore using namespace std; is not a declaration
 
Ell
I you can't have multiple definitions but you can have multiple declarations?
 
@GamesBrainiac Yes you can, maybe you're missing up 'declare' and 'define'
 
I declared f twice, no problem.
@GamesBrainiac And that answer clearly states "An identifier can be declared as often as you want."
 
Ell
4:52 PM
@GamesBrainiac "An identifier can be declared as often as you want. Thus, the following is legal in C and C++: "
 
fuck flags, I got banned
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I missed all the fun stuff!
 
@kbok lol
 
4:53 PM
Flags are Evilâ„¢.
 
'declare' is "There's this thing, it's called f. It's a function that returns nothing and takes no arguments". 'define' is "Here's this thing, it's called f. It's a function that returns nothing and takes no arguments, also, here's the code for the function"
 
Seriously, this sucks. I got banned for responding "you're the faggot" to a message saying "you faggot"
 
@Collin : I think that is what I was doing.
 
oh this nonsense
 
4:54 PM
the what exactly am I doing when I am saying using namespace std;
Declaring or defininf?
 
what, he wants to only bitch about people in front of them? or not at all? why!?
@GamesBrainiac Neither. No objects or functions or classes are involved. You're just setting up some overload resolution rules.
 
@GamesBrainiac neither
 
@GamesBrainiac Neither. You're importing all things in the std:: namespace into the local one.
 
Sometimes xkcd really sucks
Is this meant to be funny? Insightful?
 
@kbok this is the first time I fundamentally disagree with his viewpoint. which means it's the first time he's been so wrong.
 
4:56 PM
@kbok what is?
 
@jalf The comic tomalak just pasted
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You might be getting old
 
@kbok I guess it's just supposed to say "don't be a dick to people who aren't there". No one said it had to be funny
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Then what is the proper term for what I am doing when I say using namespace std; ?
 
Although the alt-text is kinda funny
 
4:57 PM
@Collin yeah
 
I liked it
 
@GamesBrainiac It's a "using declaration", not to be confused with a "declaration" :)
 
@jalf So is the message "be a dick with people who are here" ? "Dude, you're a ok person, but your friends are a bunch of morons." "Your band is never going to take off [eg it sucks]" "You're weird and your sister is even worse". Something like this?
 

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