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user142019
1:01 AM
Okay I just typed self in C# instead of this and I didn't know why my code didn't work.
 
@Zoidberg SIGNAL
Don't fall asleep now
that would be a waste of time
 
user142019
Okay time to learn DirectX.
 
@Zoidberg whatcha doing
 
user142019
Learning DirectX.
 
why
 
user1357851
1:04 AM
 
are you gonna make a Zoidlang -> HLSL compiler? :3
 
user142019
lol
 
> Fretting over the etiquette of if statements: "[if] is not a function. I strongly recommend putting a space after it. People who don't are bad and should feel bad." I felt bad. I fixed it. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2013/02/20/jumping-into-c-calculating-unknowns.aspx
 
@sehe alternatively, read all of the messages.
 
user142019
@melak47 4fun
 
user142019
1:05 AM
@sehe no space after if = death.
 
user142019
No matter what.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit dn dn dn :)
 
I hate to say this, but I - ugh. Hang on. Okay. I agree with Zoidberg.
 
user142019
class NoSpaceAfterIf {
public:
    NoSpaceAfterIf() = deathault;
};
 
@Zoidberg I died many deaths I suppose. I don't really see the difference. As in: I don't spontaneously discern the missingness vs. presentitude of such whitespace artefacts
@Zoidberg Irony. You died there. Also the pun sucks
 
user1357851
1:07 AM
 
user142019
@sehe Not really no.
 
@Zoidberg I know. Case sensitivity. Fuck that.
2 mins ago, by Zoidberg
@sehe no space after if = death.
 
user142019
public Game() {
    Window = new GameWindow();
    Window.Render += Window_Render;
}

void Window_Render(object sender, EventArgs e) {
    Window.DeviceContext.ClearRenderTargetView(Window.RenderView, Color.CornflowerBlue);
}
 
user142019
SO MUCH INDIRECTION MY GAME WILL BE SO SLOW OH NO.
 
@Zoidberg window.renderer....+=....window_renderer
why do you add renderers? ._.
 
user142019
1:08 AM
You add event handlers to events.
 
@melak47 Event handler
 
WOAH **** it's the 534 page long C# language spec ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma-334.pdf
 
user142019
@sehe First time I used custom event handlers I was confused on how to initialize them. :)
 
Xeo
@CCInc 500 pages? Pussies.
 
Fucking hell, Serious Sam 3 is now crashing quite reliably.
 
1:09 AM
lol
 
user142019
@CCInc old spec don't use it.
 
user142019
Use Microsoft's spec.
 
@sehe I shoot people like you in the face with pain for sport.
 
@Zoidberg you mean the add { } release {} blocks?
 
user142019
Which is in a fucking Word document.
 
user142019
1:10 AM
@sehe no. I mean like you have a member of type EventHandler.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit if(><)))*>)std::cout<<"Thanks for all the fish";
 
Xeo
@CCInc Come back when you went through the 1337 1338 (dammit!) we have.
 
user142019
Normally you need to initialize members otherwise they are default(T). I didn't know event handlers got initialized for you.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Wake me up if there's something informative
 
Hello, Cruel World!
 
user142019
1:11 AM
Byebye, @Code-Guru!
 
aww
bye, @zoid
 
You asked for it
 
user142019
Although I'm wondering.
 
sadtrombone.wav
 
user142019
> Window.Render += Window_Render;
 
user142019
1:12 AM
Window_Render is a member function.
 
user1357851
@Code-Guru Thanks us for make it so painful, you are worth it
 
@Zoidberg It's a method group, search "Method Group conversion" in that lovely ECMA document
 
@Rapptz @ThePhD The situation was that inlining increased the stack size of a recursive function. This resulted in a stackoverflow for the largest of input sizes and was the source of the most costly "bug" I had ever encountered to date in building y-cruncher.
 
user142019
How does it know what object to call it on? Is the code something like Window.Render += Bind(&decltype(this)::Window_Render /* C++# */, this)?
 
user142019
@sehe oh. Thanks. :P
 
1:13 AM
@Telkitty I feel the love!
 
@Mysticial cc @Collin
 
@Zoidberg Method groups are pretty awesome. They're also quite subtle. Hardly anybody seems aware of their magic
 
user142019
Maybe Skeet talks about them in C# in Depth. I got a copy.
 
@Zoidberg I doubt it, actually. I'm sure he talked about it on Stack Overflow
 
@Zoidberg srsly?
 
user142019
1:14 AM
@sehe Thank you for linking me to Stack Overflow. I never knew of that website.
 
@sehe oh thats a nice site thx
 
user142019
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yup.
 
user142019
The C# Language Specification is distributed as a Word document.
 
user142019
And it takes ages to open and looks fugly.
 
1:15 AM
@Zoidberg Hey, I'm just occupationally lazy: [SO] is shorter to type and less condensed to read (than SO, e.g.)
 
user142019
@sehe what did you think I did in that message? :P
 
well, time for me to sleep
 
user142019
Nah.
 
night night, people of substantially lower intellect than myself
 
@Zoidberg I wasn't wondering. I was telling you why I linked. Not necessarily how (well, that wasn't the essence)
 
user142019
1:16 AM
GOODBYE
 
@DeadMG Waste of bandwidth :)
 
user142019
HAHA
 
user142019
I got one reputation from deletion of this shit: stackoverflow.com/questions/14526942/….
 
ahaha lego answers
nice
 
user142019
> in c++: catch(void) do the same thing as "finally" do in java.
 
1:18 AM
wow -13
 
user142019
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Xeo
Yay, now the layout defines the number of players on the field~
 
user142019
What game?
 
user142019
template<std::size_t N>
struct foo {
    Player players[N]; // @Xeo now the template parameter does.
};
 
user142019
Or was it called a member instead of a field. :P Oh well.
 
1:22 AM
@Zoidberg Strange. I recall answering this question. No trace of that now
 
Hi all!
 
user142019
Hello.
 
Oh, no, I couldn't. And I upvoted it. Okay.
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg Hobby game
 
user142019
Sounds fun.
 
user142019
1:23 AM
Time to sleep.
 
user142019
Goodbye.
 
I prefer 'field'. Destroying a field sounds much better than destroying a member. I'm quite attached to my members.
 
plural?
 
wtf I've been reading through tthe stars and seen this like 50 times
2 days ago, by thecoshman
Old here? Do us a favour and don't bore us with "I'm too cool fro school" crap.
what does "old here" mean?
 
Xeo
What's the name for monotonically increasing numbers again?
 
1:24 AM
@Xeo Specific, like linear increase? Or the general term?
 
@Xeo ...natural numbers? idk what you want :S
 
Xeo
Linear should work.
 
@CCInc It's an ironic inversion of "New here?"
 
ah.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit shouldn't it be delete herethen? :p
 
1:25 AM
I have no fucking clue what the rest of it is, though.
 
AutoIncrement primary key?
 
@melak47 you should feel bad
 
Xeo
@melak47 I have some numbers, and I require for them that a(x) = a(x-1) + 1.
 
@Xeo natural numbers, integers, successors.. take your pick
 
succ(ers!)
 
1:26 AM
That succs.
 
"whole numbers"
 
"non-divisible" numbers
 
@melak47 You beat me by ms :(
 
@MarkGarcia what's 4/2
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit a ratio? :D
 
1:27 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 25/12.5
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Those are special cases. :-)
 
@MarkGarcia uh huh
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit All those sound kinda strange for player labels / numbers
I'll just take linear.
 
You're all so irrational
 
Be real.
 
1:28 AM
but if you make them natural player numbers, your players will be better players since they are all naturals!
 
@melak47 That's a prime idea!
 
I'm slaughtered - going to sleep..
 
Xeo
Oh crap, 2:30 am already
 
what, already ._.
 
Mawning to you all.
 
Xeo
1:30 AM
I have to get up in 6 hours again..
 
user1357851
lunch time here
 
@Xeo why not use the words that the rest of the world uses?
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit As I said, it sounds strange for player numbers.
 
I mean, NIH on the word "integer"? Seriously?
@Xeo Not really
Are you thinking of "sequential" or "consecutive"?
i'm outta here
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yes, consecutive, thank you.
 
Xeo
The layout file has player positions marked with their numbers, and after parsing it, if they're not consecutive, I reject the layout.
 
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nah
 
btw for future reference, if you'd said "adjective" instead of "name", this would have been easier ;)
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Fucking connection decided to die right when I tried to correct it. :|
 
1:33 AM
i'm outta here again
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hai hai, Sensei~
Omg. I get a page-long template error, because Boost.Range decided to do if(ATemplateParameterBool) and I compile with /W4 /Wx. :|
 
user1357851
You post that tag again, I will post cakes
 
Xeo
Protip: **bold**
 
user1357851
Thanks
 
int bold, notbold;
aw :)
 
user1357851
1:39 AM
Where is the guide for the rest of the tags?
 
Xeo
What tags?
 
user1357851
Ta
 
Xeo
Awesome, in-flight layout reloading works.
 
1:40 AM
Funny peeps.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked lol
And you evil evil guy, torrenting and stealing money from the anime makers! :P
 
No I watch torrent sites and then instead of downloading I purchase!
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Obviously.
Sorry for accusing you. :3
 
lol as if there was a way to give the anime producers money
 
Xeo
1:43 AM
Okay, so, orthogonal movement has been added, inflight layout change has been added, and layouts define the number of players now.. I actually got something done, yay.
@Rapptz Buy merchandise.
Also, DVDs / BluRays
 
funny enough I'm actually pretty sure if you buy from your local dub you don't directly support the anime producers
Since when someone dubs over it they basically have a license of the IP
@Xeo from Japan?
 
Xeo
Licensing can include royalities. Anyways, who said anything about local dubs? They're years behind anyways.
 
dat shipping.
 
Xeo
@Rapptz It's not that bad actually.
 
I bought some merchandise in Japan.
 
1:45 AM
might not be for Europe
 
Xeo
The worst thing is customs.
For Germany, anyways.
 
but man even something basic from within the states is like $20 shipping :(
 
In Frankfurt airport they almost took away the manga volumes I bought at Narita airport.
 
@Xeo that awkward time when bedtime has been so long past that you can remember 'monotonically increasing' but not 'consecutive'.
 
They told me it was not allowed.
 
Xeo
1:46 AM
@StackedCrooked lol
 
@StackedCrooked Why's that? O_o
 
Xeo
What kind of manga did you buy? :P
 
PR0N
 
was it Ero..
 
@Rapptz Dunno. But I looked very sad so he gave them back.
 
1:47 AM
That makes for a funny scenario in my head.
 
Xeo
If it was Comic LO, it might be understandable. But I don't think you're into that? :P
(If you don't know what that is, don't Google.)
 
@Xeo Weekly jump, Nanoha magazine, all Sankarea volumes (7, in JP), a few base ball mag
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Oh, so nothing dangerous.
Strange that they tried to take it.
 
In English 3 volumes of Bleach, One piece..
 
(Hint: LO stands for Lolita Only)
 
1:48 AM
Yeah.
 
Xeo
@Rapptz TIL
 
@Xeo In my hand luggage I had only one piece and bleach.
 
Xeo
@sehe heh
@sehe It doesn't help that there's no common word in German that sounds the same as consecutive, but "monoton" is quite common.
 
@Xeo in reihenfolge, auffolgend, fuck it - it's late here too
 
@StackedCrooked One piece? A 9mm piece or .38?
 
1:58 AM
@MartinJames Jet Pistol.
Lame :P
 
Lame is all I can do. I really should sleep. Won on lotto, many, many pints Directors. Brain shutting down.
 
Xeo
Alright, code is committed and pushed... my work here is done for today tonight.
Time to head to sleep, g'night.
 
2:23 AM
Who watched the Sony Press Conference?
 
-2
Q: change angle per half-second

user2093692here my problem: i try to change an angle variable for 0.5 second & make a flip ,like: viewangles = 180; // put this angle for 0.5 second viewangles = viewangles;//put this angle after 0.5 second escaped ,it must be an instantaneous change for again do viewangles = 180; for 0.5 second e...

 
No one? I am disappoint
 
user1357851
why would anyone watch sony press conference?
 
PS4 announcement?
The new games? or at least new demos
 
2:37 AM
lol @Telkitty
I read that :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nice...
Look at my reject comment
 
3 hours ago, by Etienne de Martel
3 hours ago, by DeadMG
@EtiennedeMartel Eh. What's the benefit to "live"?
3 hours ago, by DeadMG
but they'll still be identical ten hours from now
3 hours ago, by DeadMG
and there's no use to which you can put them
3 hours ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
@DeadMG To the consumer? Precisely none.
@Borgleader hope that helps
 
@Borgleader I did
 
@Mysticial haha
 
It was absolutely shitty
 
2:40 AM
Waaaaat? The specs are good. Watchdogs looks great. So did killzone (at least visually).
I'm hyped for destiny
 
You're too easily hyped.
 
fuck diablo 3 on consoles, no poin in beating a dead horse
theat weird webcam thing could be useful for skype if they have the app on ps4
 
1) "Personalization" what the hell man? What's the point of this shit
2) Not backwards compatible with the PS3? That's fucking stupid.
 
It is through gaikai i believe
 
I don't know what that is
Safe to assume you probably have to pay for it
aka bullshit
 
2:42 AM
Its a streaming service. The architecture of the PS3 and PS4 are not compatible. So they couldnt just emulate the thing. So they bought gaikai and will stream you the game.
But yeah if we have to pay for it its bullshit
 
stupid
it's an x86 CPU
what the hell were they running on?
 
Cell processor
completely custom architecture
 
stupid (again)
Also they didn't announce the price and that made me grumpy
 
they actually apologized during the conference
rumored to be 400-450
 
lol I'll believe that when I see it
 
2:44 AM
that 1 million object demo from havok was kinda neat
finally some decent physics simulation on consoles
 
the GPU was the only decent thing I saw
 
FFS. This user is still highlighting pronouns with code blocks/backticks. I've lost count of the number of times I've rejected his edits and written comments asking him not to do this. Fucking moron
 
-2
Q: Why str = strtocopy; works, and str = strdup(strtocopy); doesn't?

eveningWell, the question is quite simple, why str = strtocopy; works, and str = strdup(strtocopy); doesn't? By doesn't work I mean it gives me a segmentation fault. All I want to do is copy strtocopy to str string and get a new address pointer for that string (char*). PLEASE HELP ME, I'VE DONE LOTS O...

 
3) You have to buy a PSVita to do remote play.
 
> PLEASE HELP ME, I'VE DONE LOTS OF RESEARCH!
 
2:45 AM
I honestly thought that was dumb as hell.
 
@Rapptz wtf is remote play
 
@Rapptz Well obviously...
 
@Borgleader >Wii U does this natively
@Borgleader >For less money
 
Wii u has a fucking tablet in their controller
Also wii u has shitty hardware
 
@Borgleader >No need to waste $150+ on a Vita
 
2:45 AM
4 x Famous Question gold badge
that is not fair
 
I stopped watching at that point.
 
WiiU is a "next gen" console with current gen hardware
of course its cheap
also i heard the limit on remote play is about 30 feet
 
lol the Wii U specs aren't marvellous -- I'll give you that much. But saying it's current gen hardware is pretty far-fetched from the low point.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The guy has 413 questions.
 
with no obstructions, if not it drops to like 15
 
2:47 AM
@Borgleader On the Vita?
 
No on the wii u tablet
 
@EtiennedeMartel I have 2,348 answers
 
Oh not even close then.
I can reach all the way from the corner of my house
and all the way upstairs
 
As for the WiiU hardware I've heard devs says its more powerful than an xbox others say its less powerfull than an xbox.
 
but there's no Famous Answer
 
2:47 AM
so im guessing its in the same ballpark
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know. What I meant is, why that many questions, getting "famous question" badges was bound to happen eventually.
 
indeed
it's far from isolated
some badges are a little ill-advised
 
I like the idea of a "famous question", but a gold badge? No way.
 
they're not even great questions
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit But they are google-bait.
 
2:48 AM
yeah :(
 
That's all you need to get the Famous Question badge.
 
view count is a bit of a hole in the incentive system and has been for some time
 
> can someone resolvt that? im not good in maths lol.
lol
I've grown to hate consoles.
 
25
Q: Mitigating publicity-driven vote inflation

Lightness Races in OrbitFollowing the Reddit debacleâ„¢ back in January, we've had another instance today of a question becoming overwhelmingly popular due to external "advertising". As soon as Joel tweeted about Eric Lippert's fantastic answer, the viewcount shot up. The OP received three gold badges for the question, w...

 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If you were on Reddit or HN recently, there was another off-the-scale extreme example lately.
1400 upvotes in 6 hours until the mods pulled the plug and locked it.
At the rate it was going, it'd probably be at like 10k upvotes now...
 
2:52 AM
@Rapptz There was a post on Kotaku about how people are angry that Diablo 3 is coming to the PS4.
 
Ah well that's stupid too.
I only buy Nintendo consoles cause of the IP.
 
One guy said all the hints were there since the beginning, and for every good point he made about that, there were two points which were typical PC gamer elitism.
 
I don't have any IPs to hook me into a Playstation/Xbox
:|
 
@EtiennedeMartel I love Blizzard. But seriously, it's pointless at this point. Just leave D3 alone.
 
Which I can't play on my PC anyway.
 
2:53 AM
I don't have any IPs to hook me into any consoles
 
@Rapptz The only exclusives I have for my PS3 are LittleBigPlanet and inFAMOUS 2.
Both are excellent games.
 
I have those too.
 
God of War? Uncharted? The Last of Us?
 
but I wouldn't buy an entire console for it
I got the PS3 as a gift
and I wouldn't buy an Xbox at all
Xbox Live is an outdated model and it serves ads still as a paid service.
 
At first I bought a PS3 mostly as a Bluray player
but I bought a few good games on it.
 
2:55 AM
@melak47 If I didn't play Nintendo as a kid I probably wouldn't either.
 
when people were playing console games, I was playing Day of the Tentacle on my moms old dos/win3.1 computer. And drawing stuff with corel draw :p
 
Oh, hey, ACCESS_VIOLATION in SS3.
Damn 'em.
 
SS3?
 
Serious Sam 3
 
oh.
 
2:58 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Tsk tsk tsk
 
Happened to me 4 times in a row.
I cannot load that save.
 
@EtiennedeMartel how did you like the Sony conference?
 
@Borgleader Watch Dogs made me hard.
 
Yeah, I think that was by far the best demo
Montreal represent :)
 
it's coming to all consoles though :|
 

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