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10:00 AM
@Xeo Why not T const&? Shouldn't member operator+ be const? Or did you just skip it for clarity?
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Did you declare it as such? No, from what I read.
 
@Xeo well, my example was overly simplified, by I am interested in general ambiguity (or lack of such)
 
@BartekBanachewicz if it isn't properly addressed elsewhere, yeah
@R.MartinhoFernandes wrap time!
 
ohm
> Thus, for any binary operator @, x@y can be interpreted as either x.operator@(y) or operator@(x,y). If both forms of the operator function have been declared, the rules in 13.3.1.2 determine which, if any, interpretation is used.
oh god. 13.3.1.2 is either out of context for me or completely unreadable
 
user142019
Ugh pointers in C#.
 
10:05 AM
Overload resolution?
 
@Zoidberg What about it
 
Xeo
Aye
 
user142019
I hope DirectX copies the bytes when I create the buffer otherwise UB.
 
haha, you're screwed.
 
Xeo
UCS. :3
Oh hey nvm, it's ambiguous.
 
10:08 AM
okey, I think it is there. If I understand it correctly (13.3.1.2.3) it says that umm, three sets of matching functions are constructed.
 
Xeo
// also ambiguous
void f(T){}
void f(T&&){}
 
> The set of candidate functions for overload resolution is the union of the member candidates, the non-member candidates, and the built-in candidates
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Nah, both are considered identity conversions.
 
I apparently can't read C++ standard
 
OH MY GOD
OVER 700 LNK ERRORS
@_____________@
 
10:11 AM
that can be one library; calm down
 
user1357851
probably 500 are caused by 1 thing
 
Xeo
63
A: What is "rvalue reference for *this"?

XeoFirst, "ref-qualifiers for *this" is a just a "marketing statement". The type of *this never changes, see the bottom of this post. It's way easier to understand it with this wording though. Next, the following code chooses the function to be called based on the ref-qualifier of the "implicit obj...

Explains a bit about this overload set
 
Also...
12 hours ago, by Xeo
C'mon, that guy works at Intel, and uses ICC. He clearly just rewrote the compiler to do what he wants, and the actual code is shit.
<3
 
Xeo
:3
 
Now, for real, I am actually impressed by the compatibility of ICC with MSVS
It links seamlessly, it debugs, it jumps to code, it profiles
 
10:14 AM
What's that magic to convince the VS debugger that a pointer points to an array and not a single element?
 
If someone made such a good integration with G++ he could sell it for $$$$
@R.MartinhoFernandes *(&(array[0]))? not sure
 
no idea
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why do you want that?
 
@Xeo to be able to scroll down and see next elements
 
@Xeo Because I have a pointer to the first element of an array and want to watch it?
 
Xeo
10:15 AM
Ah
 
Don't tell me there's no such thing. I'm getting tired of saying this crap sucks.
 
there is, give me a second
 
While my code compiles, I look at kittens
perfect therapy :)
 
Found it.
For future reference: ptr, N
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's the exact expression?
 
Xeo
10:17 AM
Yea
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes.
 
user1357851
 
@Telkitty awwww :)
 
user1357851
:)
 
10:19 AM
Also, @sehe made me even more ashamed with this github.com/sehe/Bartek
 
@Telkitty : That kitty is so friggin adorable
 
@Ell I've made SFML version myself, it's already on GH
 
@ThePhD Had a few thousand when trying to use LLVM and Clang for the first time.
 
Lovely.
 
user1357851
@GamesBrainiac Yes
 
user1357851
10:23 AM
Although I think there is something between C++ people and cats :p
 
@Telkitty : I think catplusplus will agree with that! :P
@Telkitty I just want to touch its little paw....
its just so friggin cute
 
@ThePhD Ironically, the more libraries I linked, the more linker errors I had.
but they were all dupes for basic LLVM functions, so when I got into the meat of the 60 libraries you have to link to, then it started going down very rapidly.
 
Mmm.
 
user142019
> Cannot take the address of, get the size of, or declare a pointer to a managed type ('SharpDX.Direct3D11.InputElement')
 
I hate having to make .cpp and then making a .h too.
 
user142019
10:26 AM
Shit.
 
Marshal.SizeOf?
 
user1357851
@GamesBrainiac And this:
 
user1357851
 
You must be doing something scary-wrong. o_O;
 
user142019
@ThePhD no I want to use fixed.
 
user142019
10:27 AM
@ThePhD Yes probably. :P
 
I need to hug my kitty now. brb
 
AFAIR, you shouldn't need to do marshaling to work with the input elements.
 
user142019
I should probably not do this, right? gist.github.com/daknok/5003754
 
user142019
I want to create a buffer.
 
you never told D3D how many elements are in the buffer.
 
10:28 AM
Um....w
 
or are input elements sentinel-terminated?
 
.... You don't... initialize a Buffer with Input Elements if you're trying to describe a Constant Buffer...
 
user142019
@DeadMG oh right.
 
user142019
Well.
 
user142019
var inputElementsArray = new InputElement[2] { /* initialization crap */ };
InputLayout = new InputLayout(device, vertexShaderByteCode, inputElementsArray);
 
10:29 AM
That's for creating the input layout. That's correct.
 
@Zoidberg are you doing graphics?
 
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz ye.
 
user142019
Oh shit.
 
ConstantBuffers describe the Global Variables in shaders. They do not describe the per-shader input and output stuff (the function input and output)
 
user142019
I'm mixing up the input elements and the matrix buffer.
 
10:31 AM
Input Elements and the Matrix buffer are separate.
 
user142019
Yes I just noticed. :P
 
in other news, my right foot has decided that today would be a good day to be excruciatingly painful.
 
user142019
lol
 
user142019
Or not lol. :L
 
Any particular reason why?
 
10:32 AM
no particular reason at all
 
user142019
By the way.
 
user142019
What is a matrix buffer? xD
 
just the way my feet work, they just hurt more on one day then any other day, and it can be random or because I used them too much. Since I haven't used them much lately, it's random
@Zoidberg a buffer for a matrix?
 
user142019
 
@Zoidberg what if I told you that was actually an image of Watson?
 
user142019
Then I would still not care.
 
@Zoidberg you mean you would ...
 
user142019
DirectX feels higher-level than OpenGL.
 
@Zoidberg because it has a shit tonne of shit along with it, it has more wrappers then a place with a lot of wrapers
o_0 Indglish is hard to work with
 
10:44 AM
wrapers wrappers FTFY
 
@Zoidberg you know why? because it is
double post newfag
 
you suck
 
user142019
lol
 
@TonyTheLion and the rest please
 
10:45 AM
no more
 
user142019
Also, @Cicada, if any of us two here is a newfag, it's you.
 
@Zoidberg :idontthinkso:
 
@Zoidberg are you picking a fight? :P
 
fuck you mark down
 
10:46 AM
@BartekBanachewicz oh, linux version? nice!
 
user142019
SharpDX.Direct3D11.DeviceContext y u no Map.
 
I really love this song, and this cover is just plain awesome.
 
everyone and their dog is doing directx or what
 
user1357851
what about ones cats?
 
@Cicada I amazed he actually did something like this
I put up a link to his repo on the readme
 
10:49 AM
@Cicada Say what now?
 
@GamesBrainiac dx is laaaaaaame
 
@Cicada My dog isn't doing DirectX
my dog can't read or write
 
@Cicada The dog is doing language processing.
 
in fact, my dog can't speak human either
 
@TonyTheLion : I'm not the only one who does not get her humor then! :P
 
10:50 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's only a matter of time before he decides to represent his AST in 3D with particle effects!
 
@Cicada : Do you make games?
 
@GamesBrainiac no, she trolls this room :P
 
@Cicada Ha, if I had the time I'd dig the transcript for an interesting, relevant tidbit now, from when he was just planning it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't think I ever intended to do that.
 
@TonyTheLion : I think that is only part of her occupation! :P
 
10:51 AM
@GamesBrainiac she's making a game of us. I mean, gaming the system
 
@DeadMG : Hiya dead! Whats up?
 
got my gallbladder scan in a few hours
I'm hungry but can't eat anything
 
They'll never know!
Yes, they will.
 
@DeadMG : Praying that everything goes well.
 
Don't take advice from me.
 
10:53 AM
Listening to random music! :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's an advice, innit?
 
@BartekBanachewicz : I missed you bar! We all need a little pessimism every now and then! :D
 
Bah, I'm optimistic as ponies and rainbows today
Except my uni sucks
 
@GamesBrainiac Too lazy for that.
 
sehe's repo made my day, honestly
 
10:55 AM
Good Bear @sehe
 
@Cicada lazy and cake don't mix well together
 
@BartekBanachewicz : Well we both have shitty unis. Even in misery we are companions! :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, if the scan fails because I stuffed my face, it's only me that's gonna get fucked.
@GamesBrainiac Everyone here did. Lightness is the only person who has any kind of positive attitude towards university.
 
@Cicada So, what have you always wanted to make?
 
Anyyyywaaaayyy, my GF is leaving again today, and coming back at saturday
 
10:56 AM
@DeadMG No, he's not.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I Googled "lazy cake"
 
moar cubes.
 
My medic just prescribed me Alprazolam and Citalopram. I'm not sure if I really want to take those...
 
@DeadMG Which university did he go to? MIT? Stanford? Which one?
 
@Cicada Don't ask us. Ask a doctor. Oh wait.
 
10:56 AM
@Cicada that's fucking Xanax o.O Is it really that bad with you? :<
 
@GamesBrainiac I want to make interesting software.
 
user1357851
@DeadMG Why are you doing the scan, don't have you have an interview on the same day or have you requested a time change for it.
 
@GamesBrainiac Those are terrible, too. I've seen some of their course materials.
 
@Cicada My and my cousin wanted to make a software for transferring money using a bank account and mobile sms
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yessir
 
10:57 AM
@DeadMG Which uni is good then? So, far, Stanford seems to be a pretty nice place.
 
@GamesBrainiac That's terrible (oh nevermind I misunderstood)
 
user1357851
@GamesBrainiac he's from UK most probably. Haven't you seen his profile.
 
@GamesBrainiac I haven't encountered one which I'd describe as "good".
 
@Cicada I am terribly sad that I can't do anything about it. You know you are fucked when you start caring about mental health of people in the internet, right? :P
 
@Cicada No, its needed because in Bangladesh, not eveyrone can afford expensive android phones
 
10:58 AM
@Cicada bleh, openGL for me
 
@GamesBrainiac Hmm, my bank gives me that already.
 
@Telkitty Probably something awesome then. Light helped me, I can tell you that! :D
 
I have a friend who is under psychiatric theraphy right now, and I also wasn't able to help her. Or maybe I was, but it just wasn't enough :/
 
@Cicada have you tried talking to someone you trust about whatever it is that is bothering you, making you feel bad?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Many countries have that. We are trying to facillitate this is really rural areas.
 

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