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1:00 PM
Imma make it a blog post now.
 
@Cicada just don't install 8
 
oh dw I won't
 
Hm...
 
my laptop will be happy with a fresh install of 7
 
Haha. Just found this one. I don't think I ever noticed it before :)
OK mr. Prophet... 'From this day on I shall go forth and profile!' — Kees C. Bakker Nov 21 '11 at 21:47
 
1:01 PM
Also, g<C-g> is neat.
 
@ThePhD Yeah... you should only define in one TU.
 
@ThePhD Make it constexpr.
Oh wait :P
 
@Cicada I'm busy. That makes me curt. Around here. I guess. Over And Out.
 
Hahaha thanks for rubbing it in. ._.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes counting words/etc.?
 
1:02 PM
Yeah.
 
Yay. Do I win the mixer?
 
@DeadMG If my library is header-only. Where do I stick my static data, then, that goes with the library?
 
@ThePhD You don't.
 
@ThePhD In a .cpp file.
 
Oh.
 
1:03 PM
Hmm. Why? I installed it (on my desktop) and I think it's pretty nice.
Not nice enough to replace my linux though.
 
Wonderful.
 
if you need to define static member variables (that are not templates), you can't have a header-only library.
 
Or in function static locals.
 
I think that for templates, you can put definition in header
 
@sehe ClearType.
 
1:03 PM
(:
 
and function-local statics don't need a definition
 
C++ makes me happy.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh. I probably won't notice
 
So very happy.
 
Jan 29 at 16:48, by sehe
@Abyx I'm beginning to genuinely think I don't care for fonts
 
1:04 PM
@ThePhD you are just fucking lazy
 
It's a silly restriction.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Quite done yet?
 
@sehe i do. And using linux hurts my eyes
 
There is no reason at all for it.
 
@ThePhD why are you so resistant to knowledge? Like reading, y'know
 
1:05 PM
The toolchains already have the ability to handle that (see function-local statics or even template statics), but the language has the restriction in for... I have no idea why.
 
because you are fucking whining for a few hours now without progress
 
@sehe Sorry to hear that. I hope you get better soon! Cheers :)
 
And just because you're illiterate it doesn't mean you should whine how bad C++ is
And yes, it's starting to get on my nerves
 
@BartekBanachewicz Depends on the distro, I'm pretty sure
 
Noone needs a reason to whine about how bad C++ is
 
1:07 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Because I've been asking all these questions in this Chat just to get on everyone's nerves and complain about C++, certainly. It's not like I haven't been writing code this whole time and putting the finishing touches on my Renderer. What you should have realized in all your high-mighty bullshit and talking down to me is that I'm not asking these questions to whine, I'm asking them because I'm confused and I needed help, which is why I plonked you for 20 minutes and talked directly to
 
Ah, finally, drama
 
@ThePhD Don't listen to Bartek- that guy is far more useless than you. I plonked him because a) he's worthless and b) all he does is bitch loudly.
 
template <int FuckOffCPlusPlus = 42>
class foo { static const WhateverT whatever; };
template <int FuckOffCPlusPlus>
const WhateverT foo::whatever = WhateverT(blah, blah);
// works just fine in headers, no multiple definition nonsense ever.
 
@Cicada oh you have a reputation for sure, but not for being posh :P
 
Come and, this isn't Telkitty. Or user1690130.
Note how bad it is that I can actually name that user from memory
 
1:08 PM
The compiler could just play similar tricks by itself.
 
friend just came out with a instant classic...
 
23 secs ago, by DeadMG
@ThePhD Don't listen to Bartek- that guy is far more useless than you. I plonked him because a) he's worthless and b) all he does is bitch loudly.
^ this
 
> Let's cable tie his shoes to his feet
 
fuck this shit.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Robot, who kindly answered all my questions along with Sehe. Along with DeadMG's input, I'm actually tackling all of my errors. So, you may kindly eat a dick, my good sir.
 
1:08 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Wow. That's unreasonable. Anyways, you were a bit out of line flaming ThePhD for ... being present, IMO
 
@ThePhD i was trying to point in you in the right direction, you just don't listen
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Y U NO submit proposal.
 
@BartekBanachewicz woah? didn't know the puppy was that much of a dick?
 
@BartekBanachewicz He is under no obligation to, remember
 
@DeadMG Busy :|
 
1:09 PM
uh
 
@BartekBanachewicz Funny, because I seem to recall the exact same thing with you and ... hardware instancing, was it?
 
@ThePhD Everybody, calm down? Thanks
 
except you spent all your time flaming me until you got it.
whereas ThePhD engages in a nice constructive discussion with whoever's trying to help him
 
@DeadMG He did say sorry after he realized how it worked
 
@DeadMG I've tried to apologize.
 
1:10 PM
@Cicada Well, it can be tiring anyways.
 
sorry doesn't give me my time back.
 
Your time wasn't wasted, you know
 
I disagree.
anyway, I just wanted to give ThePhD some support that he completely deserves
 
You've taught me a lot.
 
going to go off for my gallbladder scan now
 
1:10 PM
Good luck!
 
Good luck.
 
le thanks
 
@BartekBanachewicz I too, have noted that you can have a ... strong temperament, and I don't always appreciate that. So, perhaps people are just sending you a useful message.
I hope they'll see that the message is sent... So - let it rest, maybe :) ??? (Guys/girl?)
@DeadMG Break a leg!
 
Break a gall bladder!
 
1:11 PM
Enjoy that dilated urethra!
 
you're right of course
 
what is a dilatated urethra? [edit: NEVER MIND]
 
lols
 
I'm sorry @ThePhD. I was being a dick.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit xD
 
1:12 PM
I'm not sure if them finding something would be better or worse than nothing
 
@sehe think he wants to break the stones really
 
@DeadMG Go, before you accidentally trip and actually break a leg. I'd feel forever guilty
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit is it dilated or dilatated?
 
just look at the stones on that guy
 
@DeadMG depends what they find really
 
1:13 PM
@Cicada dilated
 
@sehe I'd blame you forever.
 
@Cicada Painful.
 
@DeadMG Uh. At least it's better to identify what's going on.
 
@DeadMG And rightfully so
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit good to know, thanks
 
1:13 PM
@DeadMG depends on whether it's terminal
 
But then again if it's not xterminal no problem
 
I genuinely wanted to help to you, and I pointlessly got angry because I assumed you understand what I'm trying to say. I'll try to be nicer in the future. And I can help you with that linking problems, if you want. @ThePhD Well, if you haven't plonked me yet.
 
what was that statistical problem from ast week?
let's play that
 
inb4.. yes, it's a week where you make ASTs
 
1:15 PM
Lounge drama is always so short lived
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes looks like he pressed 'send' on his email draft about 6 weeks early
@thecoshman lame isn't it, you space-indenting dipshit
 
I'm going to post that thing again and dunno, go fuck myself
7 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
23 secs ago, by DeadMG
@ThePhD Don't listen to Bartek- that guy is far more useless than you. I plonked him because a) he's worthless and b) all he does is bitch loudly.
 
@thecoshman You just don't put in enough effort :)
@BartekBanachewicz hush
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit bait left alone
 
1:16 PM
@thecoshman goddammit
@thecoshman see, YOU are the problem here!
 
ITT Tomalak failing at drama
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah, just not enough fucks to give
@Cicada who? well... more like, where
 
user1357851
@BartekBanachewicz that guy is far more useless than you <-- is this a compliment?
2
 
@thecoshman ... don't tell me...
 
1:17 PM
lol
here? yes.
 
@thecoshman It flew right over your head, didn't it?
 
@Telkitty From the puppy? Yes.
 
@Cicada not really, orbit perhaps
 
what the fuck is going on
 
user1357851
@R.MartinhoFernandes you lot seems to have a very 'high' opinion of the puppy
 
lol
:giggles:
 
is Lightness socking?
 
1:18 PM
It's nolwenn btw
 
yes that's what I'm doing
I'm sock puppetting a non-existent account
 
Back!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit : Hiya!
 
oh, was tomalak a former name of the the insect?
 
@Cicada typo soz
lololol
 
@Telkitty That's all relative. You just think our opinion is too high, because you can't see past the superficial presentation (my theory)
 
1:19 PM
@thecoshman OMG you're so confus.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes, yes I am
 
@GamesBrainiac oh god
 
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ fuck this shit
 
@thecoshman Oh god
 
1:20 PM
@thecoshman Nolwenn is Cicada. Tomalak is Lightness. That's secret, so don't tell anyone.
 
don't give away my secret identity!
 
@GamesBrainiac Yes, my son?
 
SO needs a name history
 
1:20 PM
@Collin Get to work!
 
@Collin There is, but it's only visible by yourself.
 
@sehe : Its you. We meet again.
 
@Collin or a profile page for each user, with links to websites
 
@Telkitty Fuck.
 
Well, that's just useless. Why link to it, then onebox?
 
1:21 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes orly?
 
team's best feature is the "previously known as" list
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
user1357851
no more useless tags, kz <3
 
@Collin There is. But only Okay I just saw the Robot's reply
 
4 mins ago, by Cicada
ITT Tomalak failing at drama
ITT ur wrong
 
1:21 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Or at least there was, for some time. I can't seem to find it now :S
This site is always mutating under our fingers.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes go go gadget user name history
 
@GamesBrainiac Well, you don't really know. I don't remember what you refer to, and I might have changed my name to sehe :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes There is. But it lasts only for a few months. Aka you won't see your nicks older than X months (where X = 2 or 3)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think the site is developed by gall stones
 
@Cicada Ah, ok.
 
1:22 PM
@sehe : Its never straight with you, is it? :P
 
user1357851
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes otherwise it would be very boring
 
How would you sort 5 million integers.
 
@GamesBrainiac Hey. I plead "Programmer" on this subject
 
@Telkitty yeah. stable websites that work consistently are dull
 
user1357851
1:23 PM
@GamesBrainiac are they unique?
 
@GamesBrainiac std::sort
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's probably hiding along with the link to "Greatest Hits"
 
@sehe And I plead human! :P
@Telkitty Yup
 
@GamesBrainiac Depends. Where do you have them, and what is the representation?
 
i'd use quicksort cos it's got 'quick' in its name. and if that's not an issue then there's always bogosort
 
1:23 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You cant use STL
 
user1357851
@LightnessRacesinOrbit which ones are static?
 
@GamesBrainiac I didn't.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Ah...I see what you did there ;)
 
user1357851
@GamesBrainiac what is more important, speed or space?
 
@GamesBrainiac Sure he can. I can link you to a zillion SO answers to prove it
 
1:24 PM
@Telkitty Speed.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh noes don't confuse him
 
@Collin He is already confused. We can only de-confuse him!
 
defuse
 
I asked because I got bored of all the sorts out there
Merge, insert, quick
 
1:24 PM
lolwut
 
@GamesBrainiac that's what she said
 
@GamesBrainiac Bogosort, sleep sort
 
user1357851
bubble sort for the win!
 
@GamesBrainiac That's because they're the best!
 
Everyone got bored of those. That's why everyone lets others deal with it for them.
 
1:25 PM
@sehe We should make an urban programmer dictionary
@Collin I know, but still. It gets boring just using stl::sort
XD
 
What is "stl::sort"?
 
Totally. You make it, I collect the royalties.
Oh wait...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Good answer! :D
@LightnessRacesinOrbit my bad std::sort
 
@GamesBrainiac That's not boring! You invented a new algorithm
 
1:26 PM
@sehe I'm not superficial :(
 
@sehe Why, you made my blush ma'am. Lil' ol' me invented a new algo.?
Why shucks.
 
@DeadMG He was referring not to you but to our apparent respect for you
 
oh
well that's not superficial either
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I plead not programmer.
 
(I think)
It is :P
I thought you would be cut open by now
 
1:27 PM
lol
actually, I mistimed it a smidge
I don't leave for another 20 minutes
 
user142019
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The real wtf is, of course, that you read that list. It's a trap! (Closing as "too localized" or "not constructive" :))
 
My cousin is nagging at my leg now. She wants me to fix her blocks for her
 
user142019
Hurray! lol.
 
then after that, I don't start being scanned (not cut open) for another 30 minutes
 
1:28 PM
@GamesBrainiac That sounds fun
 
damn shitty programs not supporting table flips unicode
 
@GamesBrainiac Use std::next_permutation
 
@Collin They are pretty cute.
 
I like how I have about 20 minutes to shower, shave, get dressed, brush my teeth, extra-clean my teeth, and get to the dentist for my bi-annual check-up. In itself this isn't such a big deal, but I have to escape this hell-hole first...
 
@sehe lol.
 
1:28 PM
:)
 
@DeadMG electromagnetism doesn't respect the skin boundary, my friend
cut cut cut me with your lightness
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You mean black hole, right?
 
@GamesBrainiac that too
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit See, how helpful we are?
 
@Zoidberg lolphin.com
@GamesBrainiac No. No, I don't.
 
user142019
1:29 PM
lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lies. infra-red is electromagnetism that fails to penetrate the skin
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You'll realise soon enough! XD
 
thoughts?
 
@thecoshman shush
 
1:30 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit suck it :P
 
@thecoshman that's what... no, never mind
jesus, SO chat is rate limiting the fuck out of me today
 
@sehe Why is that a WTF?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not being scanned with electromagnetism.
 
@DeadMG Jokes aside, ultrasound I'd imagine
 
yep
 
1:31 PM
Whats your favorite band? (Directed at everyone)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nothing, really (I couldn't tell, as I, obviously, don't that). Just a snappy response, sorry
 
@GamesBrainiac The band that I tie around your neck and pull
2
 
@sehe I find it quite interesting, despite the occasional insanity that you end up finding everywhere.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Now, I get this feeling that you don't like me much! :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sneaky, trying to steal a star
 
1:32 PM
@GamesBrainiac What, just because I threatened to suffocate you? Man up!
 
That couldn't be it, could it?
 
@thecoshman So, that was you, huh?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, I keep forgetting to use the keyboard short cuts :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Insanity, unfortunately, is easy to come by. Just visit the std-proposals forum.
 
that an I like teasing you with stars :P
 
1:33 PM
sexxxxxxxxxy
 
user1357851
@DeadMG don't worry, we will be here for you while you suffer. Good luck we hope you do survive :p
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know, foolish. I have 3 snipers with armor penetrating rounds all targeting your head. Manned up! XD
 
@DeadMG Yeah... that one I am having difficulty to find interesting.
 
@GamesBrainiac Good job
I really should go now. Tata!
 
@Telkitty You do know that I had you plonked for about the last year, right?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Agreed.
 
1:33 PM
@GamesBrainiac that's not very (what ethnic minority are you?)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit : But they don't need to do anyhting. C++ will kill you anyways! XD
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit TTFN!
 
(grr "You can perform this action again in 11 seconds" NO I CAN'T!)
 
user1357851
I only got 20 rep last Nov
 
user1357851
so technically you could only have plonked me for like 2 weeks
 
1:34 PM
same principle
 
@thecoshman Ethnic minority? Why, I never...
:P
 
I plonked you the first time we met, and then I randomly decided to unplonk you today since the other regulars seem to tolerate you
does that mean that you've been addressing stuff to me for months that I've not seen?
 
@DeadMG Who you talkin to?
 
I never plonk anyone.
 
1:35 PM
No, it should not compile. — R. Martinho Fernandes 1 min ago
@R.MartinhoFernandes ^ Wait. Is my explanation bogus?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What about userdickface?
 
user1357851
@DeadMG not really I generally do not reply to people who don't reply to me (I am not that sad & there are plenty other interesting people/things, I am sorry) :p
 
@DeadMG he tolerates you
 
A friend told me yesterday that I don't get mad at people often enough.
I don't think she's right.
 
@DeadMG btw...have you eaten yet? I know you had to scan your gall bladder today
 
1:37 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Okay. Is she still not right if she actually meant "you don't show it often enough"?
 
@sehe Oops, brainfart. Yes, it compiles. It just doesn't do what the OP thinks it does.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes flip her table, that'll teach her :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "you"? As in "I" or as in "you, the general public"
 
@thecoshman lol.
 
1:38 PM
@GamesBrainiac No.
I haven't eaten anything for over 16 hours :(
 
user1357851
@R.MartinhoFernandes that is a good thing :)
 
@DeadMG Still not scanned?
 
nope
 
@DeadMG lol lol lol
 
but I leave soon
 
1:38 PM
gl
 
thanks
here's hoping they find something easily identified and easily cured
 
@sehe Maybe.
 
@DeadMG Hey, don't worry. There's always someone looking out for the good guy. You'll be fine.
 
@DeadMG hopefully you will have to piss a marble or two
@GamesBrainiac oh ¬_¬ your one of those people
 
@thecoshman those guys?
 
1:40 PM
@Telkitty I'm not so sure.
 
@GamesBrainiac religious ¬_¬
 
@thecoshman I don't have any snipers on him1 :P
@thecoshman You could say that.
 
@GamesBrainiac I just did
 
@thecoshman Don't worry, I'm not going to shove down anything like all those other self righteous ass holes
 
@GamesBrainiac people here aren't that bad :P
 
1:41 PM
@thecoshman I try to do right by most people. Thats all. Just be yourself, and I'll be me! :D
@thecoshman hear?
 
@GamesBrainiac I have terrible spelling, get used to it
 
@thecoshman Thats not what I meant. I don't preach, I just do right by me, thats all.
 
user1357851
Trust me, you temper is fine. No one likes a temperamental person
 
@Telkitty No, she was just talking in general.
 
Ell
eugh this sausage roll looks too pink for my liking
 
1:44 PM
@GamesBrainiac I was implying people here preach, obviously not about religious things
 
user1357851
@R.MartinhoFernandes There is also a difference in between not getting angry enough and not show your feelings
 
@thecoshman lol. Yea, you should see how zoid hates java! :D
 
@Ell too phallic?
 
Ell
@thecoshman heh :3 just looks undercooked :L
 
@GamesBrainiac most of us do
@Ell and too phallic
 
1:45 PM
@thecoshman lol
 
Ell
@thecoshman haha if it must :L
 
@Ell it's the way you like it baby!
@GamesBrainiac true story
 
@thecoshman I dunno why people hate Java so much. Gets the job done and pays bills for a lot of people. Just because one programming language is a little better than does not mean anything tbh. For me, I can do a lot with it, and I don't really have complaints about it! :P But I guess thats just me.
 
@Telkitty No, I really don't get mad often. (Etienne noticed that here before, too)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes True. I barely notice you.
 
1:48 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I get the feeling you are trying to imply you believe in "when you get angry, you suck that's your problem"
Am I right? Anyways, I'd very much concur
 
@GamesBrainiac it's terrible. you can programaticaly break encapsulation on classes, thus rendering the private/public shit pointless.
 
user1357851
@sehe you, sir, don't get angry, you just get weird :x
 
@thecoshman Just makes things as flexible as possible.
 
@thecoshman wut
You mean reflection?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you can modify a class def at run time, to make a priavet field public, and then modify it
 
1:51 PM
You get what you pay for. And it won't happen by accident anyway.
 
Ell
I forgot why reflection makes gui stuff easier
also, I don't see what is wrong with codegen for gui as opposed to xml/some gui language because those languages shift errors to runtime, don't they?
 
You need like, a custom class loader for that.
 
Anyone here watch Anime?
Please tell me someone does
 
Ell
they do
not me, but a few people do
 
Are you honestly complaining that because the language gives you a powerful tool like custom class loaders (really, that shit is great), it sucks? Most people don't even know that exists!
 
1:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes well yes, in a langue like Java, that is a good feature.
 
Then what's your point?
 
@Telkitty Well, maybe I still suck, but it doesn't harm me in quite the same way as being angry would :)
 
Ell
I think people in this room like to play puppet masters, making all the minions believe something, then questioning them when they don't know why xD
 
@thecoshman I'm so interested in the demo here. I want to see you change a class at runtime :) (I get what you mean, Machiavelli!)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ I'll let this feature go
 
1:56 PM
@sehe Yes. I feel terrible when I realise I am angry.
 
@sehe 'Machiavelli'?
 
Oh noes.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Though, of course, CLR loaders and AppDomains win the battle. But fair enough, Java predates CLR by quite a margin
 
Anyone know where moo is?
I kinda miss him.
 
user142019
What is D3D10_FLOAT32_MAX in SharpDX?
 
user142019
1:59 PM
float.MaxValue? xD
 
@Zoidberg ... documentation is evading you?
 
user1357851
de-stressing pic:
 
user1357851
 
user142019
@sehe SharpDX is poorly documented.
 

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