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3:00 PM
Haskell :P
 
lol C$
I don't like language plugs because it ruins the flow and it makes me think "Oh, he's just going to argue about how language X isn't like language Y"
 
so... why won't it let me edit /etc/hosts on mac?
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes Erlang.
 
user1804599
@Crowz lack of permissions.
 
Also.
 
3:02 PM
@Rapptz I think the lack of plug is what makes Eevee's rant about PHP digestible.
 
> Modern C++ (i.e. C++11/14) style says avoid naked pointers, but we've only just begun to be able to use it.
C++ programmers are dumb. QED.
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CANNOT USE BOOST because
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes s/C++//
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes We use chat specifically because we can't actually talk.
 
3:05 PM
> most of my work has been in C (So I understand pointers on an advanced level) and Java (So I understand OOP on an advanced level.)
Nice reasoning.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I liked that one.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Also, PHP.
 
@CatPlusPlus ... because I'm too lazy to sort it out for myself :'(
 
"you are doing that too much. try again in 7 minutes." WTF reddit
 
~_~
rejected by reddit, that's low
 
3:12 PM
@Jefffrey I am continually amazed at the PR skills that managed to make Java the reference language for all things OOP
 
@Jefffrey advanced.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Spam filter.
 
Don't post on reddit
 
Expected response.
 
Expected retort
 
3:13 PM
@CatPlusPlus "OMG Reddit is down for the first time ever, I better tell everyone on Reddit"
 
You get that message if your account is new or it doesn't post a lot.
 
[root@cat ~]# suexec log
suexec policy violation: see suexec log for more details
FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU-
 
:laffo: I got pinged by this
 
@Rapptz grumpybanana isn't new :S
@Rapptz Is this about karma?
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit o_0
 
3:14 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sorta but not really. Amount of posts is more important.
 
So if you've never posted, you can't post?
Brilliant
 
No the message is for consecutive posts.
 
Now I'm disappointed
 
You haven't posted anything in 2 years
 
Found a book that I think @sehe and @sbi might want to get a copy of... lಠಠk!
 
You made me login on reddit, and apparently someone's rebooting Goblin Camp
Beueheh
 
@CatPlusPlus WTF is that change.
 
3:31 PM
@EtiennedeMartel that man's name has too many names >:(
 
HTTP : Hell To Together Paperwork (it's a fuckign clusterfuck of half docuemnts all over the shop)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have no idea
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes clearly someone with a rod up his ass
 
Only took me about 5-6 hours to upload the app
At least now it is waiting for review
time for a shower (& bed soon)
 
3:43 PM
> (he) is the perfect poster child for why our kids can’t code – he’s a normal person, rather than an exceptionally dull weirdo, like the bulk of developers.
 
> Coding is a niche, mechanical skill, a bit like plumbing or car repair.
lol.
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WHAT DA FUCK
 
Torygraph contributer writes troll article? I'm stunned.
 
Wait, it's a conservative newspaper? Oh.
> Coding is just applied logic.
"just"? Eh.
 
3:52 PM
 
Hi everyone
 
heh
Hi
 
anyone here knows how i can write C++ program in mac ?
Hi @Rapptz
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes calm down old chap, you'll do yourself a hernia
 
get out
 
3:53 PM
you should probably look up with your local help center
 
@Theorem You can't. Only Objective-C for you.
 
fuck, I spilled orange juice
 
@Theorem don't do this please, it is very rude.
 
@Jefffrey : then how can i write C++ type programs in macc ?
@Jefffrey sorry , just hit the key by mistake .
 
Xeo
You can edit messages (read the CoC linked to the right, please)
 
user784668
3:55 PM
@Theorem you can't, buy a PC
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: The house of exceptionally dull weirdos. [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [no-questions]
 
@Fanael , really ?
 
@Theorem If you like pain, there's Xcode.
 
user784668
@Theorem No. Also, that's a question, see .
 
3:56 PM
Oct 23 at 0:24, by Borgleader
@Jefffrey Are we going to end up on meta again...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes (that wasn't at you silly)
 
@Fanael We only put that there to placate the puppy.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't follow the logic
 
@EtiennedeMartel : how is Xcode ?
 
@Jefffrey wat
 
3:58 PM
@Jefffrey no I doubt it will happen again
 
@Theorem the same way you write a C++ program in other OSes. Write some code, save it as a file, pass the file to a C++ compiler
 
@Theorem Seriously. Open a Text editor of choice. Download XCode. Type your program into a.cpp (or something) and then compile with clang++ a.cpp.
 
Mac, not even once
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Help, I'm surrounded by haters!
 
3:59 PM
@Jefffrey : thanks , i will try it now
 
Your formatting bugs me.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ?
 
At least he doesn't Randomly capitalise words for No goddamn reason at All
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes he want's more hats
 
Not hatters.
 
4:00 PM
Let me show you my hat trick
 
@CatPlusPlus really That wOULD Be odd to say THE least
 
@EtiennedeMartel I think you're surrounded by exceptionally dull weirdos.
 
Is github down?
 
@EtiennedeMartel ¬_¬ I know
 
@Rapptz Not for me.
 
4:00 PM
@Rapptz No
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes pot, kettle
 
Hm. I can't seem to connect to it.
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: The house of exceptionally dull weirdos. In Belgium. [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [no-questions]
 
I'm not exceptionally dull, everyone expects me to be dull
 
@CatPlusPlus fair enough.
Why do people do that?
 
4:01 PM
@CatPlusPlus we expect you to be a cat.
 
I am yet to have heard a reason.
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: The house of exceptionally dull weirdos. [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [no-questions]
 
@Pawnguy7 That doesn't mean he's not a bad poster, mind you
 
Enough with Belgium
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@R.MartinhoFernandes NEVER
 
user784668
4:02 PM
What's Belgium?
 
@CatPlusPlus not dull, asleep
 
@Fanael It's Belgium.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes nuke it!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Germany really has taken hold of you :O (too soon?)
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: The house of exceptionally dull weirdos. In Canada. [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [no-questions]
 
4:02 PM
lol
 
user784668
@EtiennedeMartel How big is Belgium? Is it one Belgium big?
 
@Fanael Depends. It's smaller in the winter.
 
@thecoshman Ha, nice one.
 
@CatPlusPlus Did I imply that? I am confused.
 
@Fanael It's 1.5 Quebecs usually.
 
4:03 PM
(By the way, the source of the joke).
 
Xeo
room topic changed to Belgium<C++>: The house of exceptionally dull weirdos. [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [no-questions]
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ¬_¬ it'll probably get me temp banned I am sure, worth it though.
 
Xeo
Enough with mentioning random countries in the topic
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no... that's no country
 
4:04 PM
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: The house of exceptionally dull weirdos. [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [description-wars] [no-questions]
 
@EtiennedeMartel or while otherwise frosted oO
 
user784668
@thecoshman yo momma so big, her asshole is a country
 
> For most part this is the simplest windows program you can write that actually creates a functional window, a mere 70 or so lines.
 
Oh my god.
 
I hope there is less boilerplate after this.
 
4:05 PM
@Pawnguy7 lol
 
user784668
@Pawnguy7 No.
 
@Pawnguy7 Where?
 
user784668
And as much as I'd like to be sarcastic, I'm not this time.
 
@Jefffrey WinAPI
The quote specifically from here.
 
Yo momma's so big you'd need a billion m/s delta-v to escape
 
4:06 PM
I seem to have found like 5 different definitions of WinMain in examples on MSDN.
 
user784668
@Pawnguy7 Lol, they use A versions.
 
Why are you using WinAPI anyway?
 
^
 
Usually when I find myself wanting to use the WinAPI I just use C#
 
I just use C#
 
4:07 PM
@Fanael A version?
 
Xeo
Ahem
 
user784668
@Pawnguy7 Yes. The ones that exist mostly for compatibility reasons.
 
user784668
And the ones that make l10n nigh impossible because no Unicode.
 
Who the fuck.
 
Not sure. Looks similar to the examples on MSDN. Except it compiles.
@Rapptz mostly because SFML broke, and I was looking for something to do
 
4:09 PM
> In reality their chosen profession isn't much more than a black and white textual version of LEGOS without the joy of creating a cool race car, fighter jet or the King's Castle.
 
user784668
@Pawnguy7 Thou shall always use W versions of functions and structures and stuff.
 
user784668
And probably also use UTF-8 internally and convert from and to UTF-16 when you call Windows APIs.
 
@Pawnguy7 Are you sure SFML broke and it's not actually you?
 
@CatPlusPlus Where is that? The " dull weirdos" article?
 
No, don't use UTF-8 internally
@R.MartinhoFernandes One of the comments
 
4:10 PM
@Rapptz well, here is my situation. I rebuilt it for VS 2013.
I can, say, draw textures fine.
But drawing text breaks, where it worked before. Same font.
 
@CatPlusPlus Hmm, can't see it :) :( ?
 
@EtiennedeMartel What's wrong with it again?
 
Not saying it isn't my fault, I just... don't know where it is.
 
user784668
@CatPlusPlus Why not? (though I happen to actually agree with you)
 
@Jefffrey Xcode 4 was a slow and buggy mess. Xcode 5 solved a few of those issues.
 
I don't use VS2013 so
 
@Fanael Because you should work with decoded text internally, not encoded bytes
 
Well.
Technically it broke in VS 2012 first.
I was rebuilding them to get the PDB's.
So I am missing something.
 
So, you did nothing, and it just broke on its own
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh. I skipped that one. I was reading the source directly.
 
4:12 PM
Maybe it expired
 
I like my bullshit unprocessed.
 
Weirdo
 
I don't know. It is in a strange, mostly working state.
I don't know how I could break just fonts.
 
Maybe bisect, go back to earlier version and see if it works or not
But hey, completely changing implementation technology is fine, too, of course
Weirdo
 
Earlier version of SFML?
 
4:13 PM
@CatPlusPlus Oh the generalizations.
 
No, earlier version of your code
 
I wanna work on something
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh gosh.
 
I don't wanna work on anything, but I have to
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Isn't it?
 
4:14 PM
@CatPlusPlus it broke in a... whatever that acronym for short working example is.
 
@Rapptz what's the problem? To determine what "something" might be? ;)
 
In a different place though, if I recall correctly.
 
@ArneMertz that and free time
 
@Rapptz well you can always shift priorities and make the time.
 
@Rapptz Make criterion++.
 
4:17 PM
oh, has anybody created a git repo for boost with scons scripts that you can just clone as a subrepo and build as part of your project (like you did that vendor lib @cat)
 
Sep 25 at 10:24, by R. Martinho Fernandes
On my list I have: Criterion++, Rincewind, Halcyon, Journey, Ize, Dagon, and Proteus. I forgot what half of those are. I should write down more than their code names.
I don't even know what that is
 
(That's the one I can recall easily from the code name)
 
All that post made me want is a decent package install system for C++ :(
 
Xeo
Nuget? :P
 
too limiting
 
4:20 PM
You tried it?
WRITE ABOUT IT
 
NuGet?
 
I used it like twice
 
yes
 
4:21 PM
And?
 
it was okay
 
@Rapptz here is a, in hindsight, rather bad video of it I made a while back.
 
I only downloaded the REST thing and I think a LINQ library
 
Does it have, say, boost?
 
Skip to like 20 seconds.
 
4:22 PM
I don't think NuGet plays well with multiple compilers and stuff
 
no
 
Ow, big miss.
 
it just has a bunch of C libraries last I checked
I found the REST thing nuget.org/packages/cpprestsdk
I only downloaded that to try the whole NuGet thing, I didn't actually use it lol
 
> The C++ REST SDK (codename Casablanca)
It's like they can't man up and call it "Casablanca".
They have to use some sort of generic "suit friendly" term and then append "oh, by the way, it used to be called Casablanca".
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes nuget.org/packages/boost
 
4:25 PM
@Xeo Ooh. Looks new. Neat.
 
And quite up-to-date. Nice.
 
Xeo
No Catch :/
 
it'd be neat if there was one for GCC/Clang
I'm somehow surprised there isn't one already :/
I figured someone would have made one a long time ago.
 
Xeo
@Rapptz one what?
 
A package manager.
a la apt-get
 
Xeo
4:27 PM
Well... how about just apt-get?
 
@Rapptz The C++ ecosystem is kinda crappy and... dated :(
 
I don't think I've ever used it for libraries
 
is there is any framework in c++ which worth to learn for job purpose ..
?
i m aware about qt in c++
 
It depends on your job?
 
That Chocolatey thing was a neat concept
 
4:31 PM
for example Rails is very common in Ruby and so much demand in market ... is any same like option in c++ ?
 
@Xeo Would be nice to have something cross-platform for that. apt-get isn't even cross-Linux-distro.
 
Xeo
I guess
 
@akdev Look at the "market"?
 
Xeo
No U
 
Ah shit. It's 12:30
 
4:32 PM
I am so excited I get to be doing car camping on a white sand beach next month - speaking of which I am individualistic - my friends intend to rent a 3 bedroom apartment for 6 of us to stay. I will only be staying there 1 night. I am looking forwards to sleep under the stars next month.
 
Xeo
@Rapptz More like ~1400 times
 
lol
 
Xeo
 
white sand, blue sea, starry sky (possibly bonfire), my huge tent ... & I get to hang around by myself with my laptop (with internet)
life couldn't be better
 
Xeo
(Some of those are fake, so I rounded down)
 
4:34 PM
very happy when thinking about it
 
@Xeo That excludes edited out changes, and includes fakes.
 
Basically chat sucks
 
Xeo
Yeah, and see my last message
 
And search
 
I also get to hang around with my friends
that's the whole point
excited ...
 
4:35 PM
@User17 It's so sad seeing you talking in the chat and no one giving a shit about it.
 
jealous!
 
It's seriously painful.
 
@Jefffrey Many people have her on the ignore list.
 
I presumed.
 
I just don't have anything to reply with
 
4:37 PM
really late ... bed time
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Google only finds two edits on topic changes
(guess the latest 3 didn't get crawled yet)
 
@Jefffrey Most of the time she doesn't say anything anyone here cares about, though.
 
Xeo
Also, both of those are your edits!
 
whistles
Yes. I am myself partly responsible for starting that culture, and I realised I really don't like it. — R. Martinho Fernandes Aug 2 at 16:08
 
Gotta run to the lab.
 
Xeo
4:38 PM
Anybody getting more than 2? :P
 
@Rapptz see the video?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's also true.
 
@Pawnguy7 Sorry. Send me a link again and I'll see it when I come back.
 
I don't remember why there is 20 seconds of nothing at the beginning.
 
@Pawnguy7 Because you suck at editing video, probably. ;>
 
4:40 PM
@Jefffrey completely unedited
Last time I did that.
It took forever.
Windows Movie Maker or something.
It uploaded faster than it made the edited file.
Is the exam tomorrow? I seem to have forgotten.
 
@Pawnguy7 Yeah that's the point
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't follow.
 
@thecoshman I'll get it for her birthday, then. Though she might be a tad young to appreciate it. (It'll be an early introduction to reading in English)
 
If there's 20 seconds of nothing happening, just cut it out
Also maybe record an area bigger than 100x100
 
@Xeo google.de/… try 'transcript' (history is the 'click through' via the popup messages, google can't index that)
 
4:43 PM
I thought I had what I needed in view. Apparently I was wrong.
Still.. fairly recognizable.
 
Xeo
@sehe The context, you're missing it
 
@CatPlusPlus 20 seconds it may be, but it might cost me an hour.
 
@sehe OMG, why is that first page all in the Lounge.
 
@Pawnguy7 What?
 
@Xeo He's right. The two you found I have linked elsewhere.
 
Xeo
4:44 PM
fammit
 
@CatPlusPlus Last time I made such an edit, it took about an hour.
 
@Xeo I don't know what you are getting at. You mean the two history items are linked from the wiki or something?
 
Maybe it is better when it is smaller, but the impression is still there.
 
Xeo
I wanted to find the "edited-out" topic changes
 
One is linked from the transcript, and the other is linked from a question on meta. (I edited it on purpose to serve as an example)
 
4:46 PM
@Pawnguy7 You highlight a portion of it
You press delete butan
You have successfully edited a video
Congratulations
Even YouTube can do that
 
Nov 12 '12 at 13:34, by thecoshman
@R.MartinhoFernandes nothing at all
 
Youtube can?
That might be worth a try.
 
@EtiennedeMartel They want to have the names associated with the concept and also make it "ubiquitous" (Oh, you're looking for 'the' C++ REST SDK, you must mean Casablanca). It's the same technique as subtitling for books, articles, talks, movies, etc.: priming
@Pawnguy7 given a post-2007 browser it can
 
user1804599
Meh, repcap.
 
Did.
Now to wait for it to apply.
 
Xeo
4:50 PM
0
A: Efficient accumulate

M M.Don't move anything through return like return std::move(x); This will say why. On the other hand, std::string is itself a fully movable object so don't worry about moving it. You'r first code is OK.

... what
 
I'm trying to get the std::accumulate to work efficiently - that means avoid unnecessary creation of temporary objects. I don't mind reallocs. I'm able to avoid std::accumulate and force the efficient behavior other way, but that is not what I'm looking for. — tach 2 mins ago
... what?
 
He wants a solution with accumulate, for god-knows-why.
> I apologize, I wasn’t clear enough -- you see, you’ll need to kill the Bullymong with a melee attack in order to harvest its fur. Sure, you could try to steal the fur from a bullymong’s dead body, but where’s the fun in that? Blatantly unreasonable requests, ho!
Basically this.
 
user1804599
Wat
 

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