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17:00
That's not what I wipe at night
user47589
The right order for DATEDIFF being among those things.
I should be so lucky
@EricWu I could see that adding up quick
user47589
ponies can be very stealthy.
The "prototype" for DATEDIFF is: DATEDIFF ( datepart , startdate , enddate )
you would think that would be enough to clue me in.
17:01
@Amy how does one clop quietly?
@EricWu Lunch, johnnyblogger.wordpress.com/… take a read
but for some reason I always want it to compute startdate - enddate instead of the far more obvious enddate - startdate
user47589
@KendallFrey that's an ancient pony secret. not for you.
@KendallFrey friendship.
protip: don't google "clop clop"
user47589
17:03
don't google "google"
!!google google
ESTACKOVERFLOW
Trying to code a speech recognition app for code games is possibly the worst thing ever.
user47589
top 5
I can't believe i'm actually gonna say this but i may have to try the dark side and mess about with node.js
looks pretty funk
17:10
what on earth for
the ever evolving wardy creature?
user47589
why not try the dark side?
user47589
its the side with cookies.
user47589
proof: nodejs has cookies.
I dunno, i feel I owe it to myself to be able to officially say its crap by actually trying it
@Darth_Wardy You typoed, it's Darth Wadyr
17:11
go do php first then
user47589
There's value in learning bad systems.
@Darth_Wardy it's not crap though
user47589
Darth Wadyr is better
@KendallFrey I'm sorry for getting my own name right accidentally
what a crime
17:12
wadry pls
who is wadry?
user47589
True sith wouldn't apologize.
user47589
You're a phony!
@Amy heh, I saw that bumper sticker just yesterday. or maybe it was today
I'm going for a grey night thing
user47589
17:13
@Amy And you're a pony!
I might occasionally not be a total ass
@KendallFrey did you have to call attention to her speech impediment?
@Darth_Wardy just a half-ass
@mikeTheLiar Yes I did, Bawwy
@KendallFrey yeh makes me feel more at home with node that way
kinda feels evil in its own right
17:30
So I have a method used everywhere in the codebase: public static void GuardIsTrue(bool condition, string message, params object[] formatArgs) ... I'd like to add an optional parameter [System.Runtime.CompilerServices.CallerMemberName] string callerName = "" so that all usages get a compiler-injected string, but I can't add it after the params argument. What can I do to avoid updating 500 usages?
I guess as an undesirable workaround I could create like 5 or 12 overloads all without params, depending on what the largest count of objects being passed in is.
user47589
All I can think of is broken overloads.
Even overloads won't work properly
You won't be able to have params and caller attributes playing nicely
Well this isn't any better but you could pass in the caller name in that collection.
I would ditch the format thing if posssible, since C# 6 has format literals
GuardIsTrue(bool condition, string message, object formatArg1,  [System.Runtime.CompilerServices.CallerMemberName] string callerName = "") ...
GuardIsTrue(bool condition, string message, object formatArg1, object formatArg2,  [System.Runtime.CompilerServices.CallerMemberName] string callerName = "") ...
GuardIsTrue(bool condition, string message, object formatArg1, object formatArg2,  object formatArg3, [System.Runtime.CompilerServices.CallerMemberName] string callerName = "") ...
user47589
17:34
@mikeTheLiar you could instead of passing in the message and the formatArgs, pass in a Func<string>
@MikeAsdf poo
@Amy poo-er
@KendallFrey Format literals will always do their string calculations unconditionally though.
I've seen some CPU problems before where a guy was formatting a string before it made its way into a log4net Log.Debug call
so will your existing code, unless I'm missing something
user47589
you're missing something
Whereas if you use traditional object params, the logger decides to usually not bother calling ToString
17:37
and that something is...
oh you mean there's a slow ToString?
user47589
if the first line of his method is return, then it doesn't format the string.
@Amy so? that shouldn't affect performance in any measurable way
user47589
format literals would do the formatting before the method is even called
oh you smalltime mom & pop shops
user47589
what if you don't want to log the message? formatting it would be a waste then.
17:39
Not much of a waste
user47589
it depends on how expensive the format is.
I assume format literals are implemented the same as string concatenation
which is optimized pretty well
user47589
this is why NLog and log4net both give you a way of testing whether logging is enabled at a certain level. i dont know log4net that well, but NLog does have overloads that accept a Func<string> for this reason.
We use JSON in most of our model classes' ToStrings. And if the object has a property that's a list containing 50,000 sub-objects, that can be terribad.
@Amy I use l4n
You can add your own extensions in a config file
you can specify your own severity levels
and endpoints
user47589
17:41
they're very comparable libraries.
The only problem is l4n is owned by oracle im pretty sure
@MikeAsdf yuck
@Failsafe Isn't it owned by apache?
@scheien you're right
I accidentally tarnished log4net's name by putting it under an Oracle banner
whoops
user47589
sit in the corner.
I might be missing something really obvious here, but why does ToString get called in that example?
Does that have to do with the string interpolation?
@mikeTheLiar The $ does it yeah
@mikeTheLiar Because it's evaluated before it's passed into the method, not after
This isn't Haskell
Gotcha. So it's equivalent to String.Format("Employee {0} is malformed", emp)
That makes sense
Or "Employee " + emp + " is malformed"
17:52
If loggers were better about allowing you to pass in Func<string> or Lazy<string>, that would also help things
which is probably more accurate
@MikeAsdf Or if you used Haskell
Yo. I'm back :P
Nobody missed me of course.
But still. I am.
of course
@RoelvanUden welcome back!
@RoelvanUden You were gone?
17:53
I mist you
Where have you been?
user47589
yay @RoelvanUden
hi back, I'm Kendall
I filled the time with my bitchy problems
@RoelvanUden who are you again?
17:54
@RoelvanUden what lvl are you in BDO
Love y'all too.
@scheien Developers conference.
oh.
Did you learn anything?
He was doin the schoolin'
I was a listener :P
You could have been the one talking.
user47589
17:56
Welcome back, @RoelvanUden. the place hasn't been the same without you. plebs are running rampant.
It was not THAT enlightening for the most part. Did see one pretty darn cool concept though, so that was well worth it. And I attended more talks on the personal development side of things BECAUSE I'm pretty sure I'm mostly on par on the tech side of things, and those were good too.
Overall was fun
@RoelvanUden We had to ban @Sippy because he was way to pleb for us
@Sippy pls
user47589
dont ping him, it makes him use the angry face
Who @Sippy?
17:57
(\/);,,;(\/) I blame Zoidberg
user47589
Zoidberg is Sippy's father
user47589
that's why Sippy is the way he is.
Zoidberg had friends a long time ago, with the first Planet Express crew. Before they entered the Bermuda Tetrahedron, then shit got crazy.
@Failsafe I was 50 btw, then started leveling a ranger for wahtever reason, which sits at 30.
Does anyone have a clue of how I can divide the string before return?
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6555da0db3d0e3ff0de95abea522db7f
kinda stuck now
18:06
grumblegrumblestupidproductownersgrumble
@Global what are you trying to do?
Divide how? In two? three? thousand?
!!youtube right in two
@mikeTheLiar Something went on fire; status 403
Oh yeah. :(
18:08
Divide it by 5
Something = Canada
@RoelvanUden wtf
@mikeTheLiar trying to divide the numbers in the string before return
i have a 44 ranger and a 41 musa atm
"divide the numbers in the string" wat
18:09
i haven't played in a couple of days
or char*
I can divide it but all the char dissappear then ofc.
The fact that this method is called Encrypt vexes me greatly.
Never mind got it.. Well I don't have knowledge using bits, so?
This is not encryption
Tell the book that
18:15
@TomW I'm just generally confused about this
It might qualify as a very weak cipher that would have worked for trivial matters, before computers
I am the only user so that's fine to me :-)
user47589
Which is fitting, since your name is Global
Psuedo Amy
user47589
is that method a Caesar Cipher?
user47589
18:21
What would your mother think if she knew you wrote a Caesar Cipher?
She would probably call me nerd
The temptation to insert a gigantic ascii hand flipping the bird into most of the work emails I send out is unbearable sometimes.
@Sidney do it
user47589
Encrypt the hand with a caesar cipher, and do it
Garnish with Caesar salad
18:25
Cool kitty now..
user47589
okay, my boss just assigned me a new task. i have this 502 page PDF document. Every page is nothing but financial tables. I also have a spreadsheet containing every row and column heading from the document. I have to manually copy/paste the table values into the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet contains 17,000 rows. We have to do this because the tables aren't in a standard format, so we can't automate it.....
user47589
kill me
@Amy why is a senior engineer doing grunt work?
Get an intern to do that shit. That's what they're for.
user47589
because we're all doing the grunt work
This sounds like an excellent time for a two week vacation
user47589
18:27
you aren't kidding.
user47589
can someone call my boss, claim my parents got killed or something please
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@Amy only if you promise to take up crime fighting
Batpony
@Amy could autohotkey automate it?
love doing other programmers jobs' for them, like really you don't know how to read a xml request in PHP - google ftw... /rant
@Amy I can give you some code to automate that - PDF are my specialty
user47589
18:30
@MikeAsdf we tried automating it with iTextSharp
It sounds like there's something about the tables that prevents extraction
that did not work?
user47589
the thing is, its a poorly structured PDF. they're less tables and more like carefully aligned pieces of text randomly placed on the page. sometimes the rows don't line up
Implement the work as a captcha in a webapp
@Amy where did the document come from?
what's the source?
user47589
18:32
I don't think I can say. Another company.
"To view the porn, please enter the text from line 12,223 of this PDF"
@MikeAsdf worked for Google
@Amy what ITextExtractionStrategy did you guys use?
user47589
i dont know, I didn't have involvement in that.
@Failsafe Witch 50, which is super easy to level. Just gather a bunch of mobs and fry them. Rince and repeat. The 30'er is a ranger that I entirely leveled through a mount, which makes the slow and boring ranger at early levels a breeze to play.
18:34
Does someone know how to apply an imagebrush on a polygon in xaml?
TopToBottomTextExtractionStrategy() or SimpleTextExtractionStrategy() there are 2 and the one is a custom made - find I have to switch between the 2 depending the PDF version
Is there only the fill atttribute?:
 <Polygon Points="0,0 10,20, 20,0" Stroke="Black"  HorizontalAlignment="Center" VerticalAlignment="Bottom" Margin="0,0,0,-2" Fill="White"/>
@RoelvanUden yea as a musa i pretty much do the same thing
the earlier levels were easy with a +10 wep
now it's a bit harder
<Polygon Points="0,0 10,20, 20,0" Stroke="Black" HorizontalAlignment="Center" VerticalAlignment="Bottom" Margin="0,0,0,-2">
<Polygon.Fill>
<ImageBrush ImageSource="/Assets/Background.jpg"></ImageBrush>
</Polygon.Fill>
</Polygon>
God I love the internet for all your raging needs. (possible NSFW)
user47589
18:47
haha
just came back from Techorama
I got some jetbrains chocolate
user47589
seriously why can't they hire a dozen interns to do this
@StevenLiekens Oh. I was there too.
@TravisJ how much is a brand new Corvette over there? I am hearing rumours on the internets that we're getting shafted
Not that I intend to buy a Corvette.
Just wondering.
user47589
two dozen interns, each commanding an army of a thousand monkeys, could take care of this report like that
18:50
@Amy IRTA two dozen internets
hi kids
user47589
hi @codeman
The lunch sucked.
We could've met! Aw.
@StevenLiekens jetbrains chocolate sounds like it should contain enough caffeine to propel an elephant into the stratosphere
Yes I know jetbrains is a company
18:52
that's what I was thinking
@TomW 81k for a convert
I'm saving this for a special occasion
106k for the z06
when I have to resharp some really ugly code
@Failsafe it's nearly that in £
18:53
gross
honestly I think that's cooler than their Rider demo
that is kinda Cool
wonder how they came up with the name Jet Brains
@Amy we do hire temps if we have a bunch of documents that need to be digitized
user47589
JetBrains, initially called IntelliJ,[7] was founded in 2000 in Prague by three software developers:[8] Sergey Dmitriev, Valentin Kipiatkov and Eugene Belyaev.
user47589
18:57
no mention of how they came up with the name tho
Since it was Java, I guess it was a 'IntelligentJava' or something.
but then they realized how stupid that is so they changed it?
> implying java is ever intelligent
!!java
@mikeTheLiar That didn't make much sense. Did you mean C#?
19:00
They expanded into other languages and tooling.
@SteveG A horrible accident involving a passenger standing outside the plane during takeoff
user47589
Caprica's response should be "Java doesn't make much sense. Did you mean C#?"
"Java doesn't make much sense. Did you mean literally any other programming language?"
"The language is bad and you should feel bad."
user47589
Or, "watch your filthy mouth"
idk how I feel about bringing c# to os x anymore
user47589
19:06
I know how I feel about it.
user47589
(indifferent)
do we really need apple fanboys in this room?
I hope not
American politics should include an option to "unvote" - instead of voting for the candidate you want, you can remove a vote from a candidate you don't want. It'd make things interesting at least.
@mikeTheLiar - That is called voting for the opposition.
@TomW - There are so many different versions. You can get one for $50k, you can get one for $150k, and anywhere inbetween.
19:10
@mikeTheLiar I was actually just registering to vote in the General Election. The saddest election ever.
!!zoidberg Java
@mikeTheLiar The Java is bad and you should feel bad
@TravisJ yeah thought so, deliberately left it vague to see what model you'd pick as the baseline
@Sidney despair required ahead
And I bet I couldn't tell the difference between the least and the most-specced
19:13
@mikeTheLiar Yeah, and the sad thing is I live in Kansas, so we're gonna TRUMP THE COMPETITION.
@TomW - Ah, well the no option one has the smallest amount of boost in the supercharger, maybe 1lb? (unsure). It doesn't have heated seats or extra gauges or anything, it is automatic without the paddle shifters, it has boring audio, no tint, smaller wheels, stock shocks/struts/handling stuff etc, stock exhaust, stuff like that basically
If you can call that living
xD
Unfortunately for Trump, you can't win an election with lower middle class white males alone.
@TravisJ is any of the mechanical stuff noticeable outside of a track environment? I honestly don't know, I've never driven anything that could be called a performance car
Obviously a basic auto box is a difference you'd notice
exclude that
@TomW - Yes, instantly noticeable
@mikeTheLiar - That is pretty much the consensus. Destined to lose. I just hope he doesn't say anything so radical that it damages our relations internationally.
I heard someone describe Trump as a supporter of religious freedom
I laughed
19:22
@TravisJ I'm still voting. I'd hate to have it come down to "No way Trump will win" and then he wins due to democrat voter apathy.
there's a rumor now that the republican leadership might actually put up a third party candidate.
specifically to steal trumps voters so Hillary will win, on the theory that "we know how to fight unpopular liberals but we have no idea how to stop popular crazy men"
Well so far everything they've said about Trump has been wrong
That being said I'm pretty sure he's going to get crushed
It delights me to drive through a certain neighborhood and see all the trump signs have been absolutely destroyed.
The GOP candidate has gotten crushed in the last two elections, no reason this time is going to be any different
It's exciting to think that at some point in the next several years the Democrats might become the conservative party
His support is just from GOP members so far, right? That's how nominations work?
19:25
@TomW right
their primary concern, I think, is that when the general election rolls around and Trump is no longer just selling himself to the core republican base, but also the moderate republicans and independents, that he's going to cause problems in the congressional and local races.
Well and Independents
@SteveG You around? Just got tha tmessage. Beer is great, you in Vancouver?
Presumably the majority of GOP voters who aren't members aren't insane
!!zoidberg GOP
19:26
@mikeTheLiar The GOP is bad and you should feel bad
how did we go from java to american politics?
@StevenLiekens Java is probably Obama's fault
They're both terrible?
i found a video of a roast of trump from 2012
hosted by seth macfarlane
it's pretty funny
19:35
Whelp, I'm a registered democrat, because no matter what they say or do in my lifetime, the Republicans picked trump. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You dropped this \
user47589
its a disembodied hand!
SE needs to just detect that emoji in any chat message and fix it.
@Amy it's okay, he's been disarmed
He's 'armless
user47589
lol
19:36
I just cut to the chase and wrap it in code blocks
@mikeTheLiar Thanks =), I'm armed now.
He's armed, hit the dirt!
@Sidney thoughts on this? motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/…
user47589
tackles @Sidney and saves everybody
why the fuck are my compile errors not showing up
because obviously, you write perfect code.
19:38
@MikeAsdf what does the output window say?
I'm calling a method with incorrect number of arguments, according to raw build output.
user47589
weird
Maybe you should take a debate class. Up your argument game.
But the errors window is plugging its ears and screaming at the top of its lungs "ALL IS OK"
user47589
have you turned it off and on again
19:39
I've: fucking cleaned, fucking rebuilt, fucking manually removed all obj+bin folders, fucking removed suo files, and fucking rebooted
What version of VS is it?
user47589
what exactly does the output log say?
3
Q: Visual Studio 2013 Error List not showing errors on failed builds

LukesoftMy VS2013 Professional just stopped showing build errors in my error list (which is more user friendly as i can click on errors and go straight to the offending line). Build errors e.g non-existent method on an object now only show up at build time in the Output window. This is proving to make my...

this is VS 2015 btw
@mikeTheLiar This
19:41
@MikeAsdf reboot again
did you delete the .vs folder?
1>------ Build started: Project: Initrode.Shared.Windows, Configuration: Debug Any CPU ------
1>  Initrode.Shared.Windows -> C:\development\DDTrunk\Products\DataDyneMobile\Code\Initrode.Shared\Initrode.Shared.Windows\bin\Debug\Initrode.Shared.dll
2>------ Build started: Project: Initrode.Shared.Data.Windows, Configuration: Debug Any CPU ------
2>  Initrode.Shared.Data.Windows -> C:\development\DDTrunk\Products\DataDyneMobile\Code\Initrode.Shared.Data\Initrode.Shared.Data.Windows\bin\Debug\Initrode.Shared.Data.Windows.dll
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user47589
huh
user47589
First issue I see, you work at Initrode.
@JohanLarsson I don't appear to have a ".vs" folder
wait hold on, windows explorer search fell off the retard tree and hit its head on every branch on the way down
Holy FUCK did installing windows 10 reset my folder settings to hide hidden files
user47589
haha
user47589
19:49
good old dependable windows 10
@MikeAsdf would that really surprise you?
windows 10 is peppered with the brimstone of hitler's anus
you are on fire tonight
user47589
stop drop and roll
yea probably safest
19:50
oh wow deleting .vs did it
user47589
but not until after you take a selfie of yourself immolating, of course.
ha, deleting vs folder has never solved anything for me I think
what does it even store
From the importance placed on Stop Drop and Roll in my childhood I really thought I'd be on fire more.
19:52
it stores the suo files and crap like that iirc
ah so that's the new home for suo
A dog is a gay baby?
user47589
hehe
loool that pic
Rate GayDog / GayDog
windows 10 robbed me of my windows 8 professional
19:58
There was nothing professional about Windows 8
On the surface it worked really well. Way better than 10.
user47589
i'm happier with 8
Plus it robbed me of my server setup.

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