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user3956566
morning
Morning!
user3956566
@TigerhawkT3 Haaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooo old friend. Looooooooooooooooooooong time no c!
Hi. :3
wait, SO has a message feature? It says I got a message about doc rep recalc
Also @TigerhawkT3, love the profile picture
00:06
Thanks. :)
Attribution: ninja puppy.
user4639281
@Tiger been a while, how've ya been?
user3956566
it's like a family reunion @TigerhawkT3 @TinyGiant sniff
user4639281
lol
user3956566
So you're fine?
00:11
Not really.
Funny clip, though.
user3956566
@TigerhawkT3 :-/
¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
user3956566
still living with the oldies?
user3956566
work?
00:12
Two jobs for a few hours each month.
Speaking of the oldies, they're calling me to join them for dinner.
user3956566
ah nice
I'll be back afterward though, seeing as how there's popular demand. :P o/
user3956566
nice ;)
user4639281
There's... wait, that ^^^
user3956566
00:20
meaning if someone whips through them, they'll be clsoed
user4639281
Cheesus crust. Did everyone and their dog answer that gender neutrality question?
user3956566
what question? I think I was away for all this
what is the link again? The one Andrew commented on like up top?
@Yvette the whole gender fiasco
from 2 days ago
user3956566
from before I went away?
user3956566
00:23
I was away
or 1 so day
ahh
user3956566
lol
It was... Interesting
user3956566
can someone give me a link and then delete it please
user3956566
I don't want it to start up again in here.
user3956566
00:24
thanks love
user4639281
Yes, I can confirm that everyone and their dog answered that question.
I was going to but the comments seemed better
I saw Jon Jon a few posts
user3956566
@TinyGiant did @JonClements answer? (he's a dog) aka ninja puppy - that just sounds wrong
user4639281
Nope, but he commented
user3956566
it was a joke. everyone and their dog answered ;)
user4639281
00:27
I know :P
user3956566
:)
user4639281
I want to change the title to:
user4639281
> Moderator removed my off-topic response to gender-exclusive noise that I should have edited out
user3956566
@Drew I think of you as a dog
user3956566
pst let's not discuss it here.. it will blow out for sure
00:27
more like a rat
user3956566
nah a cute dog
user3956566
I know you say rat, but.. the connotations
no if you knew me it would be a rat
For once I made a somewhat ok comment on a (un)popular post
user3956566
I'm sure you make plenty of somewhat ok comments ;)
00:35
My first comment to exceed 50 votes lol
user3956566
if that's an ok comment I hate to see what you call an awesome comment ;)
user3956566
100,000,000,000 votes
Lol. Also the first undeleted comment
user3956566
undeleted?
Yeah. OP had a few comments before; which were not... ok
Pretty rude to our dear mods
user3956566
00:41
ah good old fashioned mod bashing.. yep. The road rage of the interwebs
Anyways, just glad it's all over
@TinyGiant Someday ;)
user4639281
lol
I was just about to call it a night when it said 'new question', and I made the mistake of clicking on it
user4639281
00:43
2nd and 3rd
argh! Windows update wednesdays
the anniv W10 update (1607 or whatever) took over my machine for 4 hours
user3956566
tell me about it
This one has taken about 3 minutes
Time to start more meta contraversy
@Yvette in fact it was your comment about it a week ago that prompted me to say "hey let's look for updates" .... that was a mistake !
But it is all over now
It was like a 2GB at least complete re-do of W10
00:49
@Drew It's been at 100% for 5 minutes now
user3956566
@Drew but I was warning you lol
Now it's back at 0.
I am talking about the special 1607 @AndrewL.
@Yvette I know but I am a caveman brain type
00:50
I really hope not
user3956566
IKR we're all Gotta touch this when we see a sign that says don't touch this
LOL @Drew
if he would only dupehammer @AndrewL.
I'm surprised to see him on Meta
He's usually always busy answering, hitting 450 rep everyday
Yeah
at a certain point rep should start to mean nothing
yeah like 21K
00:55
ARGH! updates are still not done!
Ugh, meta's about to blow up again with another societal issue with offense :/
At 25k it pretty much does.
Agree
My inacceptible comment was deleted quickly, hehe
Your spelling is unacceptable ;)
01:03
@AndrewL. Caveman smell
Zardoz now LOL
01:23
There was an exact dupe to this yesterday...
01:55
throat-clearing
hello
@Queen k
@TigerhawkT3 inb4 choking?
Throat-clearing is how I avoid choking. :P
I'm coughing all day long
^ Heavy smoker
02:02
@AndrewL. Have a look at the c++ realm :((((
Because "Here lies TigerhawkT3, who, for the purpose of being polite and quiet rather than disturbing others at a gathering, avoided clearing his throat even when it started to become impeded by sinus issues, eventually choking to death and sliding quietly to the floor." wouldn't fit on a tombstone.
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I'll have an ook :)
@TigerhawkT3 I'm trying to keep politeness at the minimum requirements right now. It's hard to draw the line not getting banned.
I'm getting in doubts where we're going here to. FAQ seems to be wrecked already.
user4639281
Someone flagging stuff in here...
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ 4 weeks nicotine free
02:10
@TinyGiant And I can't counterflag it, yes :)
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ two people flagged this
@TinyGiant Nicotine isn't my problem actually
user4639281
no, too much... herbal smoking blend?
Someone seriously doesn't like me. But that's not new.
user4639281
three people flagged now
user4639281
02:13
meant to hit the star button, flagged instead
@πάνταῥεῖ I feel like some people have a built-in blacklist in their minds triggering a flag immediately without looking at the context…
=)
… did someone seriously flag that now… sigh.
user4639281
yes
We don't need to provoke stuff here.
user4639281
02:19
oh come on
@TinyGiant Flagged
user3956566
@rene can you have a look at the transcript and maybe have a look at who has RO privileges here. interesting since I just sang SO praises here If I want to go to a pub and put up with low brow crap I would do that. I'm very unhappy to say the least
what'd I miss
Apparently a whole lot of message removal
Humph.
The legendary Shog :o
02:33
There was inappropriate stuff, yes.
@Shog9 THX
So, I guess there's ways to recover from a joke bellyflopping
But let's just move on
user3956566
@Shog9 It's been an issue in the room. The ROs have asked people to keep gender discussion out of the room and I assume it includes jokes. So far nothing is changing. It keep recurring.
Need more kicks
user3956566
I'm at a point, I will not come to this room if there is not a strong RO around to stop this behaviour in it's tracks
02:35
Should I leave?
user3956566
Yep and I have to come and find someone in authority as the adults in the room cannot behave without a RO present
user3956566
It's not rocket science.
Trivia: Python kicks more than any other room
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user3956566
Particularly when that meta post has been discussed in here and people know that it's an issue. We've had stand up fights about it in here
And yet, pythons have no legs
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If a legless reptile can kick all day, y'all should be able to manage.
02:37
And got flagged again :/
user3956566
yeh good joke. But you can see? It's still going on and your in the room @Shog9
user3956566
Have I lost my mind. Am I the only one here who finds this inappropriate and offensive?
user3956566
The only person with RO privileges engaged in making fun of the flags.
:32855814 Please don't provoke someone else if it clearly annoys the user. And even generally speaking no matter if you are right or wrong just not provoking others helps the entire situation.
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user3956566
If I spoke in the opposite gender equivalent, I would be flagged and kicked
user3956566
02:40
@Rizier123 I used you as a good example
user3956566
and thank you
Am I on or not now?
...as I was saying before, move on
^I'm on
Moving
I have to switch off mobile chat to kick, which is a pain
user4639281
02:42
I never knew that the word pointless could be considered offensive
Damn straight
user3956566
@TinyGiant you were making a joke about mammary glands. So don't act all innocent. It's really irritating
Didn' t really mean to generate heat for whatever reasons. Sorry people.
user3956566
@πάνταῥεῖ I want you to stop it. All the time please. I'm uncomfortable with it
So.. Who thinks the current burnination process is busted?
02:43
For all sides personally I think the best thing now is to just move on, as Shog already said ;), and talk about cats and unicorns again or just leaving the room for a few hours, and not the virtual one here.
user3956566
@Shog9 me
just move on
@Shog9 depends on size … for small tags, no issue…
user3956566
I think that we need to freeze the tag and leave off topic posts on the site
user3956566
02:44
We can't keep cleaning up past posts that were on topic that are now off topic
user3956566
I reckon a system that puts s notice saying this Q is no longer on topic, but is kept as it was on topic at the time it was posted
user3956566
The burnination process is not good
I think the current burn process works great for max 100 questions
user3956566
I didn't think godaddy should be removed
user3956566
@Drew totally agree
02:46
@yvette Silence is golden now --------------------------------------
user3956566
thanks
user3956566
@Shog9 what do you think about freezing off topic tags instead of burnination?
As in locking all the posts in it?
or prevent new trickle in?
user4639281
I believe she means disallowing new questions to be tagged with said tag
user3956566
02:48
@undo no preventing new posts using it as @TinyGiant said
Yeah... That's an option
So blacklisting.
Right
user3956566
yep
user4639281
Leave all the off-topic garbage to fester
user3956566
it would be easier. Cause less stress.
user3956566
dog with a bone this is what I'm saying @Shog9
user3956566
it's constant and daily
@Yvette Write up a proposal for godaddy please
I'm slightly stoopid, ya alll know taht
user3956566
02:50
@Shog9 I will do.
Why do we actually even close age old questions at all (except for duplicate to make it easier for people coming from google)?
I think the whole burn thing is beyond ridiculous
user3956566
@Shog9 shall it be just godaddy or generic using godaddy as an example?
user4639281
If it is very useful, but off-topic, it should be histo locked
Everytime I read a burn on meta my immediate thought is "yeah so go do it yourself"
02:51
@Drew Agree, especially on that scale.
godaddy was a 3 month project. For what? Some whimsy from some guy.
user3956566
and it's not over
user4639281
@Drew I do too now, knowing that everyone upvoting it will be nowhere to be found when the actual clean up begins, until they find one thing that you did wrong and blow it out of proportion
The point of burnination isn't to do anything with a tag; the point is to recognize that a tag is heavily correlated with steaming piles of crap. Then you use that to go clean up the steaming piles of crap.
Because they are so bored, found some tag, and never got involved with the burn anyway once underway
user3956566
02:53
@undo not really, it's the tag also and whether it's on topic. This does include what you're saying
user3956566
goes to write proposal
@undo If we shall clean up crap more efficiently, 5 close votes isn't it.
user4639281
@undo So the point is not to get rid of the tag? The point is to say "Hey, here's a good way to find some steaming piles of crap (we're not supposed to refer to questions that way anymore apparently), anyone want to do some reviewing?"
Getting rid of a tag is a happy side effect, as I see it.
user4639281
I'm still waiting anxiously for the close votes that scale like flags thing to kick in
02:55
also, no one is saying "TINY GIANT, THOU SHALT TOIL EVERY DAY IN THIS TAG UNTIL THY CLOSE VOTES ARE EXHAUSTED, LEST YOU BE WIPED FROM THE EARTH."
user4639281
Wait... no one said that? Was that in my head then?
Some people like doing this stuff, some people don't. That's normal. Don't shut it down for those people unless there's real harm.
But still…
6 mins ago, by bwoebi
Why do we actually even close age old questions at all (except for duplicate to make it easier for people coming from google)?
@Yvette specific
user3956566
@Shog9 ok
02:57
@bwoebi no one has a good answer for that. That scales.
user4639281
@undo I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm all for burninations, and I upvote all of the burninations I agree with and downvote those I dont. I simply will not be (but probably will be) expending much effort in helping with said burninations
@undo We need to agree what's harm in 1st place
user4639281
My last message was clarifying your previous message
@TinyGiant And that's fine.
user4639281
02:58
I was specifying that my frustration stems from the fact that a very small amount of the users that upvote said requests actually participate. And there are many users out there that will shoot it down at every possible occasion.
I've seen people get burnt out before; a classic symptom is to be... unhappy... with other people for doing stuff that seems 'unnecessary'. Want to head that off just in case.
At least @queen likes me
@TinyGiant A description of burnination says it nicely, as does the meme
> Used in reference to deleting a tag from the system.
@TinyGiant Irritating, yes, but it's the same problem any system like this faces.
These have no explanation that we should be doing anything other than removing the tag
user4639281
02:59
Hey, I'm not unhappy with anyone cleaning up crap. If you want to clean up crap, in whatever form that cleanup may be, go ahead.
And yet we're efficient at deleting harmless fun like stackoverflow.com/questions/33033235/… while SO is building up more and more real crap.

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