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9:00 PM
Didn't any of you sods ever have a good enlightening lecture?
 
hmm
 
I take that as a No.
 
fuckin' package installed LLVM as llvm-3.6/llvm/stuff instead of llvm/stuff
 
good job
 
I'd have to re-work every LLVM include in Wide to reference them in a versioned way
and change my Windows build too.
 
9:03 PM
make symlinks
 
Make siblings.
 
yep
 
Windows build?
What are you working on?
 
Wide
 
@Puppy WiDe, the natural progerssor for WinCe?
 
9:08 PM
no
 
@ElimGarak woo
 
Thing is; I want to downvote stackoverflow.com/questions/33677500/… . Still it can serve as a reference for similar silliness. Also there is Wakely heralding Stepanov.
 
ok so
my new plan is to ship the Clang headers as part of the Wide source package.
then do some ABI fuckery that none of you want to know about to dodge the RTTI requirement.
then in theory you can use LLVM&Clang from a package to build Wide.
 
give me an installer I can click next next finish on and I will give Wide a try :P
 
hi all
what's the best mp3 player on ios
 
9:17 PM
your face.
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ Winamp
 
lol
i am sorry puppy my face can't play mp3
neither is it ios compatible
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ Or can't it
 
user406009
You clearly need to try harder. Apply the mp3 directly to the face.
 
lol
lalala that was funny haha
 
9:20 PM
Good night lounge
 
@Rerito Good night lounger.
 
user406009
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ More seriously, I just use VLC because I don't really care too much.
 
Evening fellas
 
user406009
There are probably better MP3 players, but VLC works.
 
ah, i see
does it require jailbreaking?
 
9:21 PM
@CaptainGiraffe <3 <3 <3
 
user406009
Oh, you asked for iOS. Oops.
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ throws explosive charge at nearest prison
 
user406009
I thought you were asking about OSX.
 
user406009
My bad.
 
user406009
I blame the fact that I ran out of tea today.
 
9:22 PM
@Lalaland gasp
That's it
Mankind's greatest horror
 
Any quick ideas why simple echo client written on c++ can connect to simple echo server on python, but they can't communicate? All is done on localhost
on both ends write/send returns that all bytes are sent, but no one actually receives them.
 
@TonyTheLion Come hug me under the trees. I'll love you to death <3
 
user406009
@DanM. Did you check the return values of every single function?
 
@CaptainGiraffe hugs Captain Giraffe under the trees <3 <3
 
9:28 PM
@Lalaland As far as I can tell. The both connect succesfully, in that I'm certain, but py server stalls at recv(..), and c++ client doesn't get message sent by server before awaiting response. And none of client msgs are reaching server. But the functions return that they written exactly n bytes and that socket is indeed opened and connected. And if I close my client I get confirmation on server that connection is closed.
 
@StackedCrooked so cheap
 
yeah.
It's actually very bug-prone.
It redefines only after the override is defined. This can lead to surprising behavior.
Due to order of header includes etc.
But I'd like an overridable mechanism that works like global operator new.
 
@TonyTheLion We are reading Rudyard Kipling stuffed on pink cotton pillows.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Give me an installer I need to click Next and Finish on and I lose interest
@CaptainGiraffe Yeah. But that's rare. And the enlightening part is usually max 5% of the lecture
@ElimGarak Huh. Is that a cloud monkey?
 
@TonyTheLion You don't care about about my spots?
@sehe Hrrmph.
 
9:36 PM
@DanM. Your face.
 
@Abyx I don't mind. I think it's fine that size_t has become the de facto size() type for anything standard library. With compiler warnings, I can manage the unsigned surprise just fine
@DanM. Has their relation been consumed?
@TonyTheLion to death, mind you
 
lol, a flag
 
@sehe what do you mean?
 
@sehe so what do you think of gsl::span::size() which is signed?
 
@DanM. Are they under any kind of legal constraint? Is one party under age? Things like that. Is a mixed marriage like that even legal in your jurisdiction? Check the kernel flags (somewhere in /sys/kernel/policy/... - just google it) maybe
@Abyx Yeah. I think that's iffy. No matter how "mistaken" unsigned size_t has been (it's not, historically, because obviously 16bit and 32bit targets are/were a thing)
@Mysticial Wave it bby
 
user1804599
9:40 PM
 
user1804599
or well, it compiles. no tests yet. :(
 
@sehe Let me tell you what I did today.
 
What did you do?
 
I gave a fantastic enlightening talk on basic structures.
 
You... mean... Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code structures?
 
9:43 PM
I was able to explain how vector::capacity = vector::capacity *2 is a beautiful O(1) per insertion.
 
@Lalaland Disagre
@Ell Might agree
 
@sehe GOTO 10
 
@sehe hee hee hee
 
@CaptainGiraffe REM DO IT YOURSELF
 
@sehe The real problem with BASIC is its lack of structure, so probably not.
 
9:45 PM
It had many things going for it :)
But structure, not so much
 
@CaptainGiraffe AAAARGH. 1.5 plix
 
@sehe rem ember to do it yourself
 
@AlexM. Dude, so do I, a little bit. :)
 
@CaptainGiraffe Did you point to the fact that exactly the same reasoning applies to other structures (e.g., hash tables)?
 
REM SLEEP ENTER GOSUB RESUME NEXT
 
9:46 PM
@JerryCoffin I stretch it out to an entire course for ten weeks.
 
@sehe It had one thing going for it: it was built into early computers. IMO, that was pretty much its sole strength though.
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's... Bartesian Logic done right.
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@CaptainGiraffe No I'm a friendly lion :)
 
@JerryCoffin We are starting to love binary trees.
 
Lions eat giraffes
 
9:48 PM
@sehe Lounge lion can make exceptions
 
@TonyTheLion Full of sugar. You will eat me up.
 
@CaptainGiraffe That's only a crush, not true love. They'll get over it soon.
 
@TonyTheLion std:: exceptions?
 
@CaptainGiraffe As long as they're high enough :) High foliage pleases the large ruminants
 
9:48 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь std::lounge_exceptions
 
@JerryCoffin They will get to love balanced BSTs in the end. And recursion I hope... =)
 
If you make students love BSTs, then u da real MVP
I mean, self-balancing BSTs
 
I've already laid the foundation with creating a heap as a perfectly balanced tree.
 
I should apply for moderator on stack overflow, would be a great addition to the team :>
 
@CaptainGiraffe oh nice, I think most instructors teach Heaps after BSTs, I don't know why
 
9:54 PM
@sehe This is winter, I'm eating all I can. I'm worried about my Vitamin D intake.
@VillasV I've won prestigious awards for my most excellent teaching methods. =)
There was artillery involved =)
 
@CaptainGiraffe Nice :) I think Heaps should come before too because of priority queues
 
@CaptainGiraffe Now you're talking business
 
'Post 10 messages in chat starred by 10 different users.' ez.
 
@VillasV Yep, they have become the one and the same for the reasons you state.
 

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