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4:00 PM
@AlexM. An Adventure game.
 
x64 or gtfo <3
 
user406009
@ElimGarak you will only get my sweet 32 bit Pentium 4 over my cold, dead body.
 
user1804599
> cannot find -lboost_system
 
user1804599
wtf
 
4:03 PM
@Elyse it went to get some cheesecake
Delicious, moist cheesecake.
 
Hey do any of you know how to detect the winding order of a mesh?
Or is that imposibru.
 
@Nooble You're such a nooblet. :P
 
lovely burger incoming
ETA: too long
 
user406009
@Nooble cross product.
 
@Nooble I'll give you a hint, what does the winding order encode? :P
 
4:05 PM
@ElimGarak I know :c
 
user1804599
WTF
 
user1804599
how does PATH work on Windows?
 
Ell
no eyed deer
 
It doesn't. (; sep)
 
@ElimGarak The direction the polygon faces?
 
4:06 PM
Current directory is always preferred too AFAIR
 
user1804599
C:\MinGW\bin is in PATH before C:/Strawberry/c/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-w64-mingw32/4.9.2/../../../../x86_64-w64-m‌​ingw32/bin/, but it uses the latter.
 
@Nooble Aaand, how would you figure it out from there? :P
 
@Elyse and batch files come before binaries, so the batch file could overrule the env
 
@ElimGarak The normals lel.
 
user406009
You can get direction from the normals. And you get the normals from the cross product.
 
user1804599
4:07 PM
WHAT THE FUCK
 
Finally, env is inherited, so system env may not be in effect (as you probably know)
 
user406009
IIRC
 
lol PATH
 
user1804599
echo $env:PATH prints something not identical to what I set in the environment variable dialog.
 
Yes, it is part of the way the rasterizer determines face culling (whether to bother with coverage computations), based on what you decide the order is and what gets culled (front/back).
 
4:08 PM
35 secs ago, by sehe
Finally, env is inherited, so system env may not be in effect (as you probably know)
Just submit and reboot
 
Restart the process
@sehe No need for rebooting
 
(not necessary, but apparently needed for you)
@набиячлэвэлиь Do I look like a noob
 
yes
 
user1804599
fuck Windows
 
@sehe You look bootiful, especially with a scarf
 
4:09 PM
@sehe Yes, suggesting to reboot
 
I've sometimes found it necessary
 
I thought having Fallout 4 on my harddrive would make the wait easier. Result: Anxious-er.
 
must be nearly as bad as looking in the mirror
 
interesting
and competitive
ahem
fps
 
@Puppy Ugh, mirrors
 
4:11 PM
i think i'll get it
 
heh
 
Indeed, some nice geometry in there, shapes and curves and stuff.
 
as if that picture doesn't show everything that's wrong with the gaming industry
 
> exoskeletal korean arms
KIM JONG CHICK
I'll take one
 
We need fat ugly chicks in games who are big and burly.
 
4:14 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь hehehe. people can't into obvious jokes in the lounge
Who knew
 
user406009
@ElimGarak there is one in Borderlands 2.
 
And Maude from GTA V (the bounty hunter)
 
I think attractive chicks are the best chicks :<
 
pop quiz: What costs two rep but doesn't give any notification?
 
downvotes
 
4:17 PM
Fuck
 
ok. whom?
 
I wish I could run OS X on a non-apple machine
 
@Jefffrey fuck only costs calories
 
@sehe I'd remember those
 
not rep
@Jefffrey you can
 
4:18 PM
@Jefffrey hackintoshs are a thing
 
there's hackintosh
also vmware
 
@melak47 Please accept the 30 boats on the house for your continued service to the community at large.
 
I used to run os x snow leopard in vmware player
 
Yeah, go read how hard it is to set up one
 
4:19 PM
(it ran better than debian for some reason)
 
And how many problems people have with it
 
@Jefffrey oh noes
le difficulties
 
@ElimGarak lol, you're gonna get me in trouble! also, it says +28 o.O
 
no, you cannot run os x on non-macs
it's the trademark of the shitty company you were following up until now
be glad you got out
 
> no, you cannot run os x on non-macs
yes, you can
 
user1804599
4:20 PM
ugh
 
user1804599
std::wstring
 
@ScarletAmaranth we already went through that
l2read
 
@AlexM. my bad, sorry
 
@AlexM. I am running El Capitan with a GTX980 as we speak, although the drivers kinda see it as a Kepler unit, but still. :D
 
do updates finally work?
back in snow leopard days, trying to update your hackintosh resulted in a non-booting os
 
4:21 PM
Manual handling for serious updates, but tiny stuff yes. :D
 
I wonder if mac minis still exist
 
I have a mac mini which I don't use :D
 
Ell
I need to update my kernel
 
@ElimGarak too slow?
 
@Ell Uh huh.
 
4:22 PM
@Ell better recimpole it
 
@AlexM. It's a piece of shit gimmick, I bought it as a staging area for my Hackintosh troubleshooting. :D
It's faster than a VM. :D
 
lol
 
Ell
I'm only on 4.1.2 :o
 
@Ell GCC? yeah me too :p
 
Ell
No linux kernel version :P
4.1.2 gcc would be way old :P
 
4:24 PM
@AlexM. lol
"le difficulties"
 
Vlad... meta... popcorn...
 
user1804599
> dereference of end recursive_directory_iterator
 
user1804599
boost::filesystem::recursive_directory_iterator begin(std_path);
boost::filesystem::recursive_directory_iterator end;
for (auto it = begin; begin != end; ++it) {
  auto path = it->path();
}
 
user1804599
WTF?
 
user1804599
Am I drunk?
 
4:25 PM
nice use of auto, +1
 
user1804599
Oh, should be it != end.
 
user1804599
lol
 
begin != end; ++it :D
 
@MartinJames now? where? :D
 
lol
 
4:27 PM
(optional) intensifies
 
I just hate when I need to go shit while I am in the midst of an intense debugging session.
 
(((optional)))
 
@ElimGarak add "at work" and remove the debugging session and you get the story of my life
 
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Q: Double standards of moderators

Vlad from MoscowI wrote a totally correct answer to the following question on C. However low-qualified programmers that do not know C down-voted my answer because they think that this declaration char key[5] = "apple"; is invalid and do not want to listen me that this declaration is totally correct in C. I ...

 
I find it 200% harder to shit in toilets other than mine
 
4:28 PM
Yeah, same here. When I was a kid, my school was really near, so I went home to shit.
 
> However low-qualified programmers that do not know C down-voted my answer because they think that this declaration
 
@ElimGarak haha I once skipped a class to shit at home
 
I also can't shit if I can hear people talking nearby.
 
actually it happened only once in primary
but often in high school
back then I had this problem where stress = stomach going berserk
and there was lots of stress in the final year
 
Yes, happens all the time.
 
4:29 PM
@orlp you gonna test if it works with cmake?
 
So... How is the MSVClang coming along? <3
 
@melak47 I need VS2015 to build Python3.5 extensions
 
user1804599
I see photons.
 
gna test if it works with that
also, does anyone know if pip can automatically find, download and install binary wheels?
 
> I just finished applying to 27 law schools. I can recite my personal statement word for word.
So, your personal statement is: "Please, I'll take anything. I am begging you."?
 
4:31 PM
I wanna write some c++ hack; anyone that can think of something interesting?
 
besides typedefs and macros?
 
the girl at 1:42 is hot youtube.com/watch?v=Fptml7Dgp4E
 
@edition He said interesting
 
heheheh, your right.
 
Alex falling in love with people on the internet
 
Ell
4:32 PM
@AlexM. song is bad
 
@Ell it's ok
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Is it ok if we read that as "What hack do you want banned from C++ next?" :D
 
I like the recurring sound in the background
it goes from right to left
 
@melak47 if you'd like
 
Ell
Volgarr the Viking is such a great game
 
4:33 PM
@Fanael Windows 7 has much more effective copy protection.
 
sounds like something that would fit X
I remember when x3 got released and not too many people were able to run it max out i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/…
 
I also remember bitching about Starforce ahahah. Delicious tears.
 
lol yea I remember the days of those things
the whole cracking thing was interesting back in the day
like when nobody thought assassin's creed could be cracked because it used ubiservers to selfmasturbate
but then people managed to spoof the servers or sth
also when all cracks were broken
2
and nobody could enter jerusalem
those were the days
 
4:52 PM
If their mac mini was good I would go with that
 
@Jefffrey It's a good beverage coaster!
 
I don't care about their screens nor mouses nor keyboards
 
Buy a mac pro then and waste money :P
 
No, that's even more absurd
Don't get me wrong, the specs are wow, but holy shit €2'500 for a computer?
I can basically buy a house for that much
 
@melak47 I mean, I just wanna write about something interesting.. it doesn't have to be worthy of a "ban"
 
4:57 PM
@ElimGarak I'm working on some logic stuff with elimination rules and I can't help but think of you! I've called "elim" like 7 times past 20mins
 
Ell
a house :L
a house is like 25x more expensive
 
it'll cost me at least £20,000 up front to buy a house.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp well, I just got surprised by function pointers being relative to the module address, even though you can pass function pointers as template arguments...but I imagine that's actually not very interesting in practice :p
 
and that probably won't even be a house, it'll be a flat.
@melak47 The dynamic linker will patch up the addresses just as with all other references to them.
 
see? nothing to write an article about :p
 
5:06 PM
@melak47 :-(
 
@ScarletAmaranth sup :D
Also, I just had the most delicious pizza ever. It was amazing.
 
@ElimGarak new Mass Effect: Universe trailer?
 
Yeah, it is pretty much generic filler shit. If you're going to post shit, post something tangible. Or don't post at all.
 
user1804599
Time to write a parser.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey wait
 
user1804599
5:14 PM
a house for 2500 euros?
 
user1804599
are houses that cheap in Italy?
 
user1804599
here they are more like
250000 euros
 
user1804599
buying a house is silly though. someone decides to build a mosque next to it, and you can say bye to your capital.
 
most people aren't as racist as you
 
user1804599
then I'm happy to sell my house to you for the original price
 
user406009
5:17 PM
@Puppy Is it still considered racism when you are annoyed by the constant, loud calls to prayer?
 
no.
but you can sue them for that and get the difference from them, depending on your jurisdiction
 
mm this caek is to die for
get this: oreos, nutella and some other shit
 
user1804599
Oh, nice, just realised.
 
it got some transporation induced damage tho :<
 
you misspelt caek
 
user1804599
5:20 PM
To enable backtracking, I can just copy the lexer.
 
ty
 
@ElimGarak btw, with the new RC1 web installer, it's possible to install only the compiler, so you don't wreck intellisense
 
@Borgleader :D
 
@CatPlusPlus Do you know how to emulate curses' Half-Delay mode in BearLibTerminal?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь That is an actual thing?
 
user1804599
5:26 PM
Where can I find the throwing behaviour of boost::get when passed a variant?
 
@MartinJames What is an actual thing? Half-Delay mode?
 
user1804599
I can't find the specification.
 
Didn't find anything in the docs
 
@набиячлэвэлиь All of it. It sounds like the output of a cat-based buzzword generator:)
 
5:28 PM
@Elyse That's not actually what that does.
strict get still throws.
the difference is about what happens when you request a type that can't be in the variant.
 
@MartinJames Half-Delay mode in curses is activated by calling halfdelay()
 
i.e., get is strictly superior to relaxed get.
 
I don't see any buzzowrds anywhere
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Naturally....
 
CreateToolhelp32Snapshot must be one of the dumbest names I've come across yet.
 
5:30 PM
@ElimGarak Does it create a snapshot of 32-bit version of Toolhelp?
 
@ElimGarak That sounds like MS.
 
@MartinJames Of course it is
 
@ElimGarak wtf is a toolhelp
 
@MartinJames don't act like you don't know it is :p
 
@MartinJames Yeah, takes a selective snapshot of the process ID you provide it with.
 
5:31 PM
@ElimGarak waitwhat
 
...after a half-delay..
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Just track time yourself?
 
..and gives your dll a half-life of 8 minutes.
 
It's probably Microsoft's eccentric way of expressing namespaces and belonging (Tool Help lib).
 
@CatPlusPlus Alright
Cheers
 
5:34 PM
Aaaahhhh! The belonging.. It feels so good!!
Oh.. Stoke-Chelsea has kicked off. I assumed it would be delayed because of Mourinho and his team taking up half the car park.
 
So I'm ordering a new Laptop today. And I see this:
> WARNING The products listed on this page contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, or birth defects or other reproductive harm.
I'm in Illinois.
 
Come on don't they know that the chemicals only cause cancer in California?
 
I'm now obsessed with this song youtube.com/watch?v=OjETibEMbJY
 
@Mysticial is that if you eat the laptop?
 
5:40 PM
@Mysticial Move to New Jersey - problem solved.
 
@Mysticial What if you're standing with one foot on each side of the state line?
 
@Mysticial yolo
 
@MartinJames Then I have to pay tax.
 
o noes tax
 
@Puppy I would need to have a pretty big crotch to do that.
 
5:41 PM
@Mysticial Just pick an adjacent state rather than these two states.
 
@Elyse No, it was an hyperbole.
 
@Puppy Like Alaska and Alabama? They sound adjacent.
 
"a", not "an", peasant.
 
You barely pay rent for 5 months with €2500
 
$1900 for the laptop. It's a bit on the high side for me, but it comes with a free 27 in. monitor.
It didn't two weeks ago. So I guess I need to order it now.
 
5:43 PM
$1900 is pretty expensive
specs?
 
I hope it has a 1TB SSD lol
 
It doesn't. I intend to upgrade it at some point.
 
asus has nothing to compete with it?
in the ROG line?
 
Nope. The ASUS ones are even more over-priced.
 
5:44 PM
Vlad seems to have exploded.
 
What happened?
 
And they don't have the overclockable chip. I don't intend to overclock it per se, but I do need to control the turbo multipliers for the purpose of benchmarking.
This?
 
@Jefffrey The mods detonated him.
 
-9
A: Comparing strings with if else

Vlad from MoscowIn the condition of the if statement if(ckey==key){ there are compared two addresses of the memory areas occupied by the arrays. So you will always get false because the arrays occupy different memory areas. If you may not use other standard functions as for example strncmp or memcmp declare...

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Q: Double standards of the Stackoverflow

Vlad from MoscowI wrote a totally correct answer to the following question on C. However low-qualified programmers that do not know C down-voted my answer because they think that this declaration: char key[5] = "apple"; is invalid and do not want to listen me that this declaration is totally correct in C. I...

 
> I liked the IBM mainframe PL/X language. It is me who wrote CTRACE record filtering for the IBM mainframe NFS server using the OOP features of the language.
lol
@it is me who wrote
 
5:47 PM
@AlexM. I'm sure he writ very good software.
 
> News: The defect of the C++ STL relative to class std::basic_string was rectified as I proposed. See Defect of the C++ Standard relative to std::basic_string
Vlad News
 
damnit.
 
Vlad from TableOfBannedUsers
 
if I build with LLVM-VS, the program runs but you can't debug it. If I build with VS, I could debug it if the compiler didn't ICE for lols.
 
@Puppy lol..
 
5:50 PM
@MartinJames SELECT Vlad FROM t_users WHERE banned = 1
 
user1804599
Copies are awesome:
 
user1804599
lexer save() const {
  return *this;
}

void backtrack(lexer to) {
  *this = std::move(to);
}
 
Noooo! Not
 
@Mysticial :c
 
Vlad AND SQL!
 
5:50 PM
is there a standard identity function object?
 
no.
 
-8
A: Fluent in Spanish? We're hiring a Community Manager for a Spanish Stack Overflow

Vlad from MoscowI do not see any problem if the site will be built such a way that you can easily switch from your native language site to the English (original) site. Moreover the same question can be asked in the both sites. If you need a Russian speaking community manager then you may set eyes on me

> If you need a Russian speaking community manager then you may set eyes on me
 
besides
 
template<typename Type> decltype(auto) identity(Type&& obj) { return std::forward<Type>(obj); }
 
@Mysticial lol vlad
 
user1804599
5:52 PM
@Mysticial lol
 
the rules of C++ make an identity function impossible to write.
 
eyes.set(vlad)
 
@Mysticial Vlad from Kremlin
 
RU.SO doesn't really like him, be he's quite persistent
 
For some reason, I have a generic disdain for Russians. Haven't met a nice Russian yet.
 
5:52 PM
@Jefffrey Consider auto&& str = std::string(); vs auto&& str = identity(std::string());.
 
@Puppy [](auto&& x) { return x; }
 
afraid not (see above)
 
They kinda remind me of the worst qualities of Klingons.
 
yeah, it's not safe
 
@AndyProwl setOn plox, set appears to set the value of an unnamed property to vlad
 
5:53 PM
@AlexM. true
 
@Puppy Considered. Now what?
 
ooohhh
 
@ElimGarak Seems to me like their society just missed out on the last 70 years of evolution.
 
suddenly I realized that I can use std::move as an identity function
 
Does the temporary go out of scope?
 
5:54 PM
@Puppy One of my colleagues at Google was Russian. Nice guy.
 
@Jefffrey Since they clearly produce different outcomes, your identity function is not actually the identity.
 
but that's evil)
 
@Puppy How are they different?
 
in the first case, the temporary's lifetime is extended by the reference bind.
in the second case, it's not and str is a dangling reference.
 
@Mysticial oooooh wow
monthly Vlad drama I guess
 
5:56 PM
Take note of the year, though. Vlad from Moscow is still suspended and is currently being debriefed by the FSB.
 
actually, that's not true, I guess.
if Type is deduced to be a value then identity returns a value rather than a ref.
so you can bind to that temporary instead of the original temporary.
arguably it's still observable given some side effects in constructors, but that's another matter.
no matter, there's always braced initializer lists.
 

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