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2:00 PM
Nevermind the wheels, they are dynamic, so just placeholders
 
However, we'll have to go Rockstar on them, make them not quite look like the branded ones because legal issues.
 
@ElimGarak great work, what did you use to do the modeling?
 
since Natalia is going to leave her 3D manipulator I might play with some modeling as well
 
3ds max, Zbrush for crease manipulations.
 
2:01 PM
but then again 3D is suuuuuuuck
maybe I could learn unity or somethin
 
also blueprints and lots of references, without it, you're dead
 
and write in JS
@ElimGarak 'xactly
 
Your brain wants you to believe you can do it on your own, but the blob it has in mind has nothing to do with what your intended result is :D
 
Using twitter-stream 0.1.16
Installing tinder 1.9.4
Installing uglifier 2.3.3
 
What the hell. Our CEO - highest boss just sent a mail to everyone:
> We do not have products called ABA, or ABS. Next person sends abbreviator w/o using full name – gets fired on the spot. Am I clear?
 
2:05 PM
@sehe wilco
 
ahahaha
 
That was in response to internal communication talking about a cost breakdown.
 
Abstraction Bloat Agonizer
 
> Stop making it clear I don't know wtf is going on!
This is the place you are leaving right?
 
2:06 PM
WE DO NOT HAVE PRODUCTS CALLED WTF.
 
Absolutely Brittle Abomination
 
In all seriousness, that is a bit harsh bullshit.
 
@ElimGarak I sent a screenshot to the coworker who wrote the original mail saying just that "WTF - sorry - What the fuck" and the mouse over the send button
 
When I was younger, I thought such bosses were just a thing of movie exaggeration. But, it appears reality is far worse.
 
He has the company logo tattooed on his arm
 
user406009
2:09 PM
Every couple of years I watch office space again.
 
user406009
And laugh a little less.
 
@sehe Man, that's going below and beyond.
 
I like how he abbreviates everyone's name. And "w/o".
 
That's a man who takes things à bras le corps
 
@thecoshman has he just had a word from the legal department or something?
 
2:11 PM
@sehe ... what came first?
@JonClements huh?
 
> Your name is not sehe, stop using that on your commits, dammit. Next person that commits w/o using full name – gets fired on the spot. Am I clear?
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz You don't need a pure language to have immutable data though.
 
Well. I can't show you the screenshot I sent internally - for obvious reasons. But it sure was tempting to press "Send"
 
@Lalaland having immutable data in impure language is way more icky than having mutable data in a pure one
 
@sehe you're leaving, so do a Sbi, call him out on the bullshit
 
user406009
2:12 PM
Nah, you simply use const or value semantics.
 
remember, both meet in the middle
@Lalaland try to explain why you do all those copies to C++ zealots
 
@thecoshman I was thinking about it. But my local manager assures me it won't help. I trust his judgement. He knows the guy.
 
user406009
Moves are still considered value semantics.
 
It's a role. I wish people would realize how much damage such emails do
 
@sehe oh, so it's a 'big' company is it?
 
2:14 PM
@Lalaland sure, those do help. It's still annoying
Andy was complaining about it a while ago
 
@thecoshman Yesh. Biggest in the backup industry. Not naming things here
 
sorry, big => Bullshit InGrained
 
No need for it to be big. Our world is not so big
 
@sehe is it the company that contacted you via SO a while back?
 
it really depends on what you want to do...
 
2:14 PM
@sehe oh, rsync is a company :P
 
either way is technically a compromise
 
@ScarletAmaranth No. That company was acquired by this big-ass corporation.
 
but, again, most of the time I'd rather start with a reasonable basis than start low-level and climb up
 
All this has a strong correlation with me ending the contract with mutual agreement per september 30th
 
choosing a low-level language without an explicit need for it sounds like NIH/premature optimization
 
2:15 PM
@sehe Let me guess, it's one of these torpedo acquisitions?
 
@sehe Right on OS X 10.11's release :P
 
I had offers to go with R&D in Estonia or Singapore
 
Speaking of which, still no fucking Metal drivers
 
@ElimGarak yeeeeey.... nope; just nope
 
@ElimGarak what's gonna change?
 
2:16 PM
@sehe You mentioned that when I was at your place. Did you change your mind since?
 
@BartekBanachewicz According to Apple, everything. According to reality, Metal support on desktop. :D
 
and besides metal?
 
More transparency?
 
@Rerito Yes and no. IMO they were in it for the market share. We had biggest cloud backup customer base, and they were starting out. But they also used us to accelerate a culture change in their dev departments (they couldn't really get cloud backup off the ground)
 
> With El Capitan, Apple focused on two major areas: user experience and performance
 
2:18 PM
@sehe So, you were used as learning material for their own dev teams?
 
Not really. Did I say I was considering it?
Technically I /have/ considered it. In the sense that I considered flying to Moscow to meet the persons in charge.
But I stopped considering that pretty soon. It's really no option with the kids. For me
 
@sehe No, you said it just wasn't an option.
 
@Rerito Not personally. More as 'bait' or catalyst. Our team dragged out their teams to get things shipped. We had the incentive (earn-out)
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh. Good that was past those ~5 days of thinking then :)
 
actually the changes look cool
faster apps, fullscreen split
 
There has also been some political pressure to offer me a remote worker position, but that was something I personally didn't see working out.
 
2:20 PM
i wonder how long it takes for games to start using metal
 
I've seen enough of communication with their teams as it is to tell they didn't want remote workers.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, it looks neat. But mostly I really want to see whether OS X can be a serious gaming platform (OpenGL 4.1 for 5 years didn't help).
If it were OpenGL 4.3, it would be a lot less painful. OpenCL interop can only go so far.
 
And it's very difficult to work in team being completely remote. I'm convinced you need a minimum amount of meetings in person
 
@ElimGarak dunno what you consider "serious gaming"
 
user406009
@ElimGarak you could just boycott apple for their anti competitive behavior.
 
2:22 PM
The games I'm really interested in don't require top-quality graphics
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz same
 
I have a workstation with windows for those anyway
 
Witcher 3, Grand Theft Auto V, Mass Effect 3, Fallout 4 etc. :D
 
I don't want to play either of those.
I'm more interested in new Factorio updates.
 
Cat, is that you? :D
 
2:24 PM
besides, for newest games a console is a much better buy anyway
 
user406009
Also, you don't need good graphics for fallout games.
 
lol GTA
 
you can get PS4 in the price of a good GPU
 
But why would you
 
comes with a guarantee of actually running everything for a good few years and is cheap vOv
and used games are dirt cheap in the UK
 
2:25 PM
Cat, it's a solid game with solid, polished mechanics. :P Also, I have a PS4. Haven't used it in months.
 
> GTA
> solid game
 
Guys, it really is. :P
 
compared to a lot of niche titles, I'd say it lacks a lot
 
@ElimGarak ... my arse
GTA is full of bugs and shit
 
GTA 4 was fun... for a few hours
 
2:27 PM
The physics are wanked to fuck
 
few hours in factorio are nothing
 
@sehe lol
 
Gameplay is stale, and have not really improved since GTA3
it's just 'more'
 
user406009
And this is why I never want to go in the gaming industry. Demands are higher than the stratosphere.
 
yeah, I guess Saint's Row was a better alternative
at least it was genuinely funny
 
2:28 PM
> A widely anticipated game, Grand Theft Auto V broke industry sales records and became the fastest-selling entertainment product in history, earning US $800 million in its first day and US $1 billion in its first three days. It received widespread critical acclaim, with praise directed at its multiple protagonist design, open world, presentation and gameplay.
 
Yawn
It's the same shit over and over again
 
Reality hits you hard, brah :P
 
he purrs
 
Saint's Row, too
Hey let's make a new game that's exactly the same as old game
60€
 
And then rehash it for next generation consoles 60€
And then rehash it for PC 60€
 
2:30 PM
36
Q: I'm 23 and was given 50k. What should I do?

John WallRecently I was given 50k from my grandmother in her will. I am 23 years old and have no idea what to do with it. I make $33k a year. I have zero savings. I owe $35k in student loans over 6 years 0% APR I owe $5k in medical and credit cards. I have zero monies towards retirement. I also need to...

give it to me
 
Spend them in hookers
 
@ElimGarak what reality? The fact that alot of people bought it?
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, biggest letdown ever for me
 
I am sorry to hear about your loss. — davidjwest yesterday
apt
 
2:31 PM
I could have just continued to play the old game
@CatPlusPlus I could play GTA V, though, since I never played the older ones :D
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked how do you move-from and destruct the value?
 
#include <unordered_map>

int main()
{
    std::unordered_map<int, int> map;
    map[1] = 2;
}
this segfaults with clang for me :(
 
user1804599
{ auto x = std::move(*dequeue_it); (void)x; }?
 
@melak47 ABI issues?
 
user1804599
Ah, I know.
 
user1804599
2:32 PM
How do you allow only rvalue references to be passed to a function with a deduced template parameter?
 
@sehe between clang and gcc? :/
 
@BartekBanachewicz Guys, it's a good game. Really. It's not a masterpiece, but as far as games go, it's pretty good.
 
@elyse make a null_move_cast
 
user1804599
Ah, I know
 
@ElimGarak I know. But it's not a great game.
 
2:33 PM
@melak47 or library versions. Specifically gcc 5.x libs vs. older
 
I have a lot of great games I haven't played yet.
 
@melak47 Don't be too sceptic. You can see it failing. Select Isn't Broken.
 
Esp. the ones from before 2000
 
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Q: PLEASE don't let this answer get the bounty!

SamThis answer is currently up to receive the bounty on this question (it's the only new answer and it has had 2 up votes). It duplicates information in other answers and is less thorough. I'm stumped as to why it has been up voted over others. To me the 'two up vote' part for un-awarded bounties s...

 
@sehe ...what?
 
user1804599
2:34 PM
template<typename T>
struct identity {
    using type = T;
};

template<typename T>
void drop(typename identity<T>::type&& x) {
    auto tmp = std::move(x);
    (void)tmp;
}
 
which are great to play because they run on every machine, don't drain power at all and typically are modded so that a lot of issues are fixed
 
user406009
@ElimGarak People have really high demands on games.
 
@melak47 you gave me the credulous question and emoticon... blog.codinghorror.com/… Select Isn't Broken.
 
user406009
It's crazy.
 
First step: accept something is wrong. Likely, it's something you're doing wrong. But you don't see it yet.
 
2:35 PM
@Lalaland I have high demands on coffee as well. So what?
 
Now find out what it is.
 
@Lalaland Yeah, everyone expects a spiritual journey. Also, game critics want to be "relevant" like movie critics, which are obnoxious douches usually.
> I was given $50k. I have a $35k debt.
Where's the problem? Do you want someone to justify your $50k car purchase?
 
user406009
30k of that debt is interest free.
 
user406009
You don't pay off interest free debt.
 
Except if you're me
 
user406009
2:36 PM
He wants to know where to park that 45k (after paying off the 5k interest accruing debt)
 
I avoid any kind of debt like the plague.
 
user406009
Then you are a fool.
 
I am <3
 
Aw, minitech, why did you have to delete that: stackoverflow.com/a/32729541/85371
 
user406009
He's bragging about how fast he can answer a question?
 
2:38 PM
@ElimGarak He has a 0% debt, he's not going to pay it off now
 
@Lalaland read it
 
@sehe I guess it is my error to try and use the clang 3.7 msys package that somehow works with the gcc 5.2 + libstdc++ packages and just expect it to work... :/
 
@ElimGarak He needs an investment vehicle than will let him safely pay off his debt but not more than that
 
@melak47 I'd check the supported configs. It could be a bug (misconfigured build). So if you downloaded a supported binary config, by all means, file a report
 
the supported configs of what, where?
 
2:42 PM
Of clang for windows
Damn. So much scepsis.
Perhaps you mean there is no supported config
 
I'm not skeptical, I just have no idea what you mean :)
 
I hope ^ helped. If not... Sorry then. I don't do clang on windows.
I value my sanity.
(Not that it is any different on, say, Coliru! You can't link g++ binaries to the built boost binaries there and expect it to work)
I think the clang builds assume the gcc 4.x ABI. And @StackedCrooked has nicely updated gcc to 5.x (and - I think a few weeks later - compiled a new boost with it)
 
cABItulated.
 
@sehe My result is approximately 40sec.
 
@BartekBanachewicz (sniggers)
 
2:48 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Poor you :) I don't even know what answer that was on. I just found the update in my fav. notifications
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Yep, and they expect that "spiritual journey" for cheap.
 
user406009
Just look at the horror that is the mobile gaming market.
 
@ElimGarak For a second I thought you guys were referring to the Mekka incident
 
@sehe hm, so...I'd need to compile gcc 5.2's libstdc++ with gcc 4.x for it to work with clang? that sounds slightly mad :p
 
My girlfriend just told me that she's not mad and that everything is ok.
6
 
2:51 PM
@melak47 or look for other supported configs. I don't know whether they exist (is there an ABI switch on recent clangs?)
@ElimGarak Do you love her?
 
"Oki
Rekla sam da nisam ljuta
Sve ok"
 
@ElimGarak rip
 
Oh. That's bad. She speaks Croatian too. That's worrisome
 
Ell
oh balls
I just remembered last night I fell flat on my back and everyone laughed at me :V
 
@ElimGarak lol, did something happen
 
2:54 PM
@Mr.kbok "Nope. Not at all. Everything's fine."
 
^
 
Gawd, it's like they are all instantiated from the same template.
 
@Ell lol
 
@Ell did you hurt yourself?
@ElimGarak hold on: they can have specializations that are completely heterogenous
 
Ell
@sehe Not really, fortunately I didn't hit my head
 
2:55 PM
@Ell great friends over there! :D
 
Oh, she opened up a little bit. Now she says she doesn't feel like talking about it. The pouting continues. I still have no idea what's going on.
 
@Ell Did you hurt anyone else?
 
user406009
@ElimGarak You know, it might be the fact that you pay too much attention to this chat?
 
Ell
@sehe nope, apart from the floor maybe vOv
 
@ElimGarak Patience.
 
2:56 PM
My girlfriend asked yesterday me if something was wrong/if I had something important to ask of her because I was being "especially nice tonight"
 
@Mr.kbok rip. If I were at work I would ask our SCM experts, they might know
no idea
 
@Mr.kbok Oh, I just love that. Every time I am nice, she asks me what did I do wrong.
 
if you get no answer by next week remind me of that
 
I suspect it is related to her finding out I have multiple phones last night. But I don't see how that could make her upset.
 
well
 
2:59 PM
she thinks you're having an affair
 
@ElimGarak What did you do?
 

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