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5:00 PM
Boring
 
@Mysticial Maybe we can persuade him to spam answers?
 
@JerryCoffin Nobody would notice any difference
 
oh he's french
what a surprise
fuck all french
no exceptions
 
user3790646
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva wtf..
 
@CatPlusPlus Precisely. "We're bombing the Spam factory...with Spam!"
 
5:01 PM
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Thanks.
 
:D
@Andrey and all brazilians
 
user1804599
@Mysticial lol
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva I dunno--Something that starts with "bra" can't be all bad!
 
user3790646
that's what I get for trying to search for his profile with google images
 
user3790646
 
Ell
5:05 PM
hi
 
user3790646
@Ell Hello
 
Ell
Guys
how much do you spend on food a week?
 
@Ell Does this include what my wife spends, or just what I spend?
 
user3790646
I dunno, my parents that feed me
 
user1804599
5:09 PM
@Ell seven bucks maybe
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin Just you
@elyse and you survive on that?
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
user1804599
It's bread and meat.
 
Ell
lord
No veggies?
 
I do about 250€ per month
 
user1804599
5:10 PM
No, I only pay for my lunch.
 
user1804599
My parents make dinner.
 
user3790646
hmm when I'm the one who buys food I use $1,20 (4 reais) for my lunch
 
user1804599
Today I had two ciabattas with sausage and butter.
 
user1804599
Butter lasts ages so I buy it not so often.
 
user3790646
butter fly
 
user1804599
5:11 PM
Sausage is 1.8 euros and lasts three days.
 
user1804599
Bread costs almost nothing.
 
user3790646
wtf that's almost R$9,50 (reais)
 
Ell
250euro per month is like £45 a week
 
user3790646
each bread here costs about $0,10
 
I spend about 6000+HK$ (~700 €) on food / month D:
 
user3790646
5:14 PM
Are you kitten me
 
user1804599
Ruby on Reais.
 
I spend almost nothing on food these days.
 
user1804599
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva wtf
 
user3790646
what... morwenn looks like my ex gf
 
user3790646
let me see if I still have some of her pics here
 
Ell
5:16 PM
> With careful planning, an adult could spend as little as £12 per week on a healthy, balanced diet, says Tom Sanders, a professor of nutrition at Kings College London.
how even
 
user3790646
ahh... looking at my ex gf again...
 
user3790646
I'm sorry for saying such a blasphemy, Morwenn
 
user3790646
 
@Ell I probably spend $100/week on average (but my wife spends quite a bit more than that). Of course, that's food for six people (my wife, four kids and me).
 
Ell
Oh wow
that seems very good value
 
user1804599
5:18 PM
who is that emo
 
why am I seeing marylin mansion in lounge
 
And's ex gf, I think
 
well I can understand why she's your ex
off to sleep now, nite
 
@Andrey Nah, that's ok, but she looks nothing like me x)
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva rest in peace
 
5:19 PM
@Morwenn menteur !
 
@Jerry so I askes Sean about the point of his talk yesterday. He was cool with it. Judging from his smile I think he got that question already. So it's about preferring composition relations between types. I suspected that but considering all the philosophical sugar around it I wasn't too sure
 
And I guess she has no click and no clock.
 
user3790646
well, when she used to look... "normal"... She looked pretty much just like you
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva How dare you :o
 
user3790646
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Good night.
 
user3790646
5:21 PM
my ex girlfriend is probably going to look like this in the future:
 
user3790646
 
user1804599
hot
 
@AndyProwl So "prefer composition to inheritance"? Really? Do I need to check what century I'm in again?
 
@Ell I think thats about right
 
@Jerry not to inheritance, but to other kinds of associations that do not form a hierarchy
 
5:23 PM
@AndyProwl Okay--that's at least a bit less mundane, I guess.
 
He made the point code is easier to reason about if data structures follow the axioms of composition
He already bashed inheritance two years ago :D
 
user1804599
Inheritance must die.
 
user3790646
@elyse Nooo...
 
user1804599
Yeees...
 
How do I Python3 on AppVeyor ugh
 
5:26 PM
Inheritance has its uses but yeah I guess there wouldn't be too many reasons to cry if it died
Assuming we get the alternative goodies
 
@JerryCoffin Wait, you're still with your wife? :o
 
@AndyProwl Like mixins? I mainly use inheritance to avoid repeating code.
 
@AndyProwl I think we need something more like templates, but happening at run time--specifically, instead of inheritance saying A can substitute for B, we basically want something more like duck typing, where algorithm A can apply to anything that meets criteria C. IOW, essentially what the database people did years ago in transitioning from hierarchical/network databases to relational databases. Here instead of dumb data, the relation applies to code.
@ThePhD Yes--the marriage is problematic (to say the least) but hasn't quite exploded yet.
 
@JerryCoffin Oh, well nice! Glad you're hanging in there and the union hasn't hit the big red button. Keep at it, and I hope things work out!
 
@ThePhD <generic words of encouragement for [situation]>
 
5:31 PM
@ThePhD Thanks--there are times I wonder how sensible I'm being, but we'll see...
 
user3790646
da hél is dat in you're picature mah bro @JerryCoffin
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin just runtime type erasure right?
 
@Ell Well...sorta. I haven't tried to nail down all the details about how to really do it as well as possible though...
 
Ell
I like andy's proposed way
 
5:34 PM
Generic functions, multidispatch
 
Pointars. Pointars save lives.
 
Andy's proposal was the shit.
Essentially, ask for an interface type that does all the void* boost::any bullshit storage for you.
 
Ell
but inheritance is useful for code de-duplication right?
 
And just generate a constructor that compile-time checks that all of these functions asked for by the interface are there.
 
@ThePhD But it still needs to be officially proposed :p
 
5:35 PM
@Morwenn @AndyProwl's at cppcon: he should go push it into someone's face there.
 
@ThePhD CAN I HAS void_pointar
 
Ell
@ThePhD it isn't finished yet
 
hmm
 
Yeah, even if the proposal isn't complete yet, it would already deserve a CppCon presentation.
 
step 1 write nice comment
step 2 get lots of comment upvotes
step 3 edit into really nasty comment
 
5:36 PM
step 4 cackle maniacally?
 
Do people upvote nice comments?
 
step 4 get lotsa fags on comment
 
@Ell No.
 
@Ell At least in most current languages there aren't many alternatives--but most programmers can't see further ahead than the end of their nose anyway (e.g., Java) so asking them to give up something that "works" is unlikely to accomplish much.
 
@Ell functions are useful for code de-duplication
 
5:38 PM
clang++ -stdlib=libc++ main.cpp -nostdinc++ -I/mingw32/include/c++/v1 -lc++ -lc++abi -lwinpthread
 
funcitons are a sign of weakness
 
Orders may be a sign of weakness.
 
Ell
I'm going to start writing my language
 
am I missing anything here, or should this work (if libc++ works)
 
Write everything in main()
 
5:39 PM
@Ell now you sound like rightfold :P
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion hey this is the first one that I've attempted to write :P
well, it will be
 
@Ell I read that as "I'm going to start writing my lounge"
@Ell too late now, you've already thought of another haven't you
 
@TonyTheLion For the full Rightfold experience, s/my /my 14th /
 
ITT @Ell creates the best language ever, but it's in Ruby, so it'll take you 4 hours to set it up every time
 
Lol
 
user1804599
5:40 PM
@набиячлевэлиь Funciton is an awesome programming language.
 
@JerryCoffin hahahah
 
@набиячлевэлиь He's gonna rewrite Wide in Ruby?
 
Ell
@melak47 nah I'll just spend forever mutating one language instead of spawning new ones :P
 
a different language on each commit!
 
@elyse Looks neat
 
5:42 PM
let x = Rectangle{width: 2, height: 2} # type of x is now Square
 
@Morwenn Missing a leter?
 
user1804599
@Morwenn you can do that in F*
 
@ThePhD Yep.
@elyse Never heard of F*.
 
user1804599
Something like type Square = r:Rectangle { r.width = r.height }.
 
it's like F***, but less pointers
3
 
user1804599
5:43 PM
You can also do it in Perl 6.
 
@elyse Is everything immutable by default?
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
Good.
 
why did you star that, I swear I wasn't swearing!
 
you could do but why the fuck would you want to
 
5:44 PM
Well, I don't have any original idea for a new programming language then.
 
user1804599
for example in F* you can declare the second operand of division to be of type i:int { i <> 0 }
 
user1804599
Then the compiler must be able to prove you never pass 0 to it.
 
Nice.
 
user1804599
If it can't, you'll get a type error.
 
@melak47 Because it was funny, of course.
 
5:45 PM
Can it be used to basically prove that some algorithms are safe?
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
undefined reference to 'operator delete(void*)' this isn't good, is it
 
Better than yer mother
 
@melak47 Probably not (though the real problem is that you may have used a raw delete, much more than the fact that its implementation may be undefined).
 
> In Canada, the Queen is our Head of State; therefore, all applicants for citizenship 14 years of age or older must swear or affirm to be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors in order to become citizens.
 
5:49 PM
@JerryCoffin I just picked the shortest linker error out of 200something
 
> The Notice to Appear to Take the Oath of Citizenship form informs candidates that if they wish, they may bring a holy book of their choice on which to swear the Oath.
 
you failed to link the stdlib
 
@melak47 Okay. Did you, perhaps, compile with gcc instead of g++?
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
@JerryCoffin Hard to reference delete from gcc ;p
 
user1804599
5:51 PM
@Morwenn for example it can be used to make it impossible to implement a list concatenation function that results in a list of the wrong number of elements.
 
one would hope that to be difficult
 
@JerryCoffin no, clang++ :)
 
@elyse I am looking at examples, but it looks like they also like short crytic names :p
 
Xeo
@Puppy gcc behaves like g++ for .cpp files, except it doesn't link the stdlib AFAIK
 
trying to see if this libc++ works.
I'm guessing it doesn't, but I can't be sure :p
 
5:52 PM
Chandler's showing off Google's benchmarking lib. Nonius has so much nicer interface (and so much more informing default output...) :D
 
@Griwes Get up there and show off nonius!
 
Xeo
Tell him about Nonius!
 
I was about to post the same
 
Yeah, I'm going to jump onto the stage of a keynote and shout "Nonius!"
 
Literally, tackle him off the stage.
 
5:53 PM
totally
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes should give a talk about nonius
 
@Xeo Recently, the Federal Court of Appeal ruled that it was illegal to prevent someone to take the aforementioned oath while wearing a niqab. So, naturally, there's a debate going on between those who agree with the Court and those who don't.
 
...reserve just made push_back 10 times faster in his benchmark. ;d
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel wtf, why wouldn't it be allowed. What you quited doesn't mention dresscode at all, does it?
 
I would have expected way more tbh
 
Xeo
5:55 PM
and it's not like it's a religious oath
@Griwes whoah!
 
@Xeo Oh, but it actually is (sort of anyway). The official position is that the Royal family is basically chosen/appointed by God. Therefore, you allegiance to the Queen pretty much translates to allegiance to God.
 
@Xeo The government claims you shouldn't have your face covered during the entire process. The Court ruled that forcing people to reveal their faces when their religion tells them otherwise goes against the freedom of religion written in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
 
@Puppy the linker errors are coming from libc++ though :S
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel why does the government claim that? So they can see if you're smirking?
 
@melak47 They may have to be in libsupc++/libc++abi
 
5:57 PM
@Xeo I have no idea, I think the whole thing is bullshit, especially considering I never had to take the oath since I was born here.
It's assumed that the oath transfers genetically, it seems.
 
Xeo
Well duh, you were born on Canadian ground, that infused you with that oath by default.
 
yeah dude, I'm totally loyal to the Queen
 
@Puppy I was missing libsupc++. now down to 130 symbols, most seem related to locale stuff. where would that reside :S
 
I promise
 
Xeo
@melak47 stdlib
 
5:59 PM
@melak47 libc++ should provide std::locale and friends. Is it C locale or std::locale?
 
@JerryCoffin There's a reason why our Charter starts with "Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law"
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked that's... not news
 
it isn't?
it is news for me!
 
Xeo
inline is for ODR circumvention
 
5:59 PM
@Puppy _free_locale, _new_locale. sounds C-ish
 

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