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2:00 AM
@LucDanton Basically meas you get your template argument list navigation for free. Solves a lot of problems. Requires a "DOM" of sorts
Meanwhile:
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I suppose I shouldn't wait for it to complete.
 
@sehe Yeah there's a plugin for that too in ST.
 
@Rapptz I assume for C#
If that is for C++ I will reconsider ST
 
for C-like languages and HTML
 
Hmm.
@Rapptz Actually, Vim's motions are plenty for me in HTML/XML/js
Perhaps that just reveals I don't intensively work with those
 
99% of my selection needs is for renaming variables tbh
I wish I could have 'select this subregion in this scope' thing
 
2:05 AM
@Rapptz You also had the Omen
 
vip/vi{!
 
I tried vim before
I feel like I'd probably like emacs more.
 
I didn't mean you'll end up using Vim. It's more like "you're one of those who care about their editing"
 
I do!
That's why I use Sublime Text and not Geany.
 
Precisely
 
2:09 AM
Do you guys use libclang based plugins for autocompletion?
 
@LucDanton Hah. I learned a thing too now! I'm overusing {/'}. Turns out ip` solves many use-cases better (by not including the adjacent line of whitespace). Thanks.
@LucDanton For you, no doubt, vip + o<motion> will become a frequent thing to e.g. unselect the leading comment line etc.
 
@Rapptz Nope. Tried it many moons ago, but not recently.
Was too experimental back then, freezes and stuff and Clang couldn’t handle my code anyway.
 
@LucDanton I guess, it's more about ip vs ap that is the win
 
I've tried them before but it caused me some annoyances so I disabled them.
 
@sehe You were overusing what?
 
2:11 AM
} and { motions
@Rapptz I do these days. YouCompleteMe is completely viable these days. I really had to get used to "fuzzy" matching. But it grew on me. In a big way.
 
oh it’s not an italicised 'I' lol
 
Yeah YouCompleteMe seems good.
 
@LucDanton gosh, more faildown :(
 
Yeah I really, really love ip
I think without it I’d be closer to the 'Vim navigates over dumb text, not actual syntax' crowd.
 
@Rapptz Can't recommend it enough. It's pretty fast. Only thing it doesn't do is completions inside assert (possibly because it uses -DNDEBUG underwater, never checked) and completions in base/member initialization lists. Also, I believe that a competing plugin (name forgotten) has better completion for constructor overloads
 
2:14 AM
@sehe I thought I had that.
 
Yeah doesn't derive from Halo at all...
 
I only see neocomplete though
 
I'm going to head to sleep though. Busy day tomorrow. See you guys!
 
Maybe I got scared by the compiled component?
Cya!
 
@LucDanton Yeah. It's very smoothly automated, never had to learn a thing about it. Even rolled it out at work. It's simple as 1-2-3
 
2:16 AM
@AlexM. Oh, right, Toxikk.
I remember seeing the trailer when it came out.
It launched me into a rant.
And nobody was there to hear :(
 
Well it seems I don’t have my mind set on writing code so I know what I’m doing.
 
I'm torn between what to do.
 
@Cinch I wonder where you went. See what you did ^ You triggered another Vim tips/trivia lounge binge. If you read that, you'll either understand, or you'll know not to bother with vim
Night all
 
@sehe night
 
user3010322
.-.
 
user3010322
2:22 AM
R is pretty lel.
 
oh sorry
 
@Mgetz I shall now invent a law called "Nooble's law", in which I say that sooner or later, someone or something will be compared to a koala.
@sehe Night.
 
@Nooble sooo everything gets compared to a drug addicted marsupial?
@sehe sleep well
 
@Mgetz Yes.
They're not drugs if no one knows they're drugs.
 
@Nooble sounds like it would get used a lot in conversations about drug law
 
2:32 AM
Besides, is there a law preventing non-humans from using controlled substances?
Fun fact: Koala fur is very pitch black in color, it is the cocaine that gives it a lighter tint.
 
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Q: What would you say is the ideal way to communicate variables between different functions?

shadoweye14This is in context of C++. Lets say you have a group of common variables that need to be accessed by multiple functions for example a couple of 2D vector consisting of a 50,000 x 5 Grid. How would one go about doing that? I do not want to be passing those variables as arguments into the functio...

 
Someone still doesn't understand function arguments.
Hi again.
Did everyone leave?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I’m around.
 
I'm here.
 
2:45 AM
stuffed nose ruining my night and making everything slower
 
fuck my language
 
Watch your language.
 
i forgot to change user input to an int and was comparing the string to int and wondering why it didn't work as expected
5 < 10 would result in false
-.-
 
Computer, eject the core.
 
Is that an euphemism for puking?
 
2:51 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you didn't scream at me for answering in comments =o
was it the question quality?
 
@Blob I have no idea what you're talking about
 
I didn't read the comments.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit is that your way of saying you don't want to yell at me? <3
 
@Blob Sure we'll go with that
 
2:57 AM
That question reminds me of this commit I made yesterday.
 
So Skylake (6th Gen Intel processors) are first coming to mobile before desktop :(
 
@Nooble Yeah, we knew that already. Sucks.
 
@Mysticial Reminds me of this
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit o.o who is that?
 
@Sepehr Student And what is not clear? By the way I am also a beginner.:) — Vlad from Moscow 10 hours ago
 
3:07 AM
lol
Vlad confirmed noob?
 
yessir
@Borgleader Commander Glau
 
name doesnt ring a bell
 
do you guys watch Rick and Morty?
 
@orlp no
 
@Blob you should
 
3:14 AM
@orlp i don't have time for TV shows.. all my free time is spent here
 
guess it's bed time
bye
I leave you with this lovely before-and-after comparison of my office (for no particular reason). It's changed a lot since I moved into this house almost two years ago
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nice ass mark
 
3:29 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit pretty comfy
lol UE4 isn't deterministic
 
@Pris that site looks a lot like SE..
 
@Blob unity and UE4 sites both have a QA section thats based on SE code i think
So does OpenStreetMaps
 
@sehe Welp, I was expecting 'easy to install' as well. Not the worst, but not very fun either.
 
@Borgleader wow much realistic
 
3:33 AM
It creeped me out =/
 
how would that even work. allowing that he at some point appeared to look like he was on the snow, him getting closer would make his reflection appear bigger. that'd definitely change where his reflection is located relative to the ground.
and allowing that is impossible to begin with
 
You don't get horror.
If it doesn't make sense, it's even scarier.
I should have brought my backpack.
 
brought your backpack where?
 
3:49 AM
What do I feed to Clang to point it to a custom libc++?
 
so
should i learn haskell
or perl maybe
 
@LucDanton -stdlib=libc++ and then -I dir should work fine I believe.
along with the appropriate -L for the .a.
 
or maybe just have a v8 and code some c
 
perl? die, croke or confess? Its like old people python.
 
3:55 AM
@Rapptz Should be fine then.
I still have a "use of undeclared identifier 'std'" for BOOST_CHECK_EQUAL.
eh, still works
 
#define BOOST_CHECK_EQUAL (x,y) (x==y)
problems solved
 
YAY!
I just solved the Tower of Hanoi
without recursion
 
IOW If you don't like it GTFO
That's how I feel about that.
 
@Mikhail At least one of the resident old people deeply resents that remark.
 
Do you guys think that C++ is a viable language for artifical intelligence?
 
4:09 AM
The other option is for me to remember to switch the dam tabs!
that's neat
sorry guys that must look like it came out of nowhere
 
@Cinch Depends heavily on what you mean by "artificial intelligence". For some things (e.g., neural networks) it works just fine. For others, it's probably a poor choice.
 
@Cinch Yeah why not? Compared to a LISP?
Use whatever language the solutions to the homework is written in
 
@JerryCoffin Well I was thinking about making a non-neural network AI based on a crude model I came up with myself
and I was wondering, how do these neural networks work?
 
Kinda stumped, I can build a program that includes <cstddef> just fine on my own but the YCM server has issue with it. Flags look fine.
 
nobody knows why neural networks work, there is a vague sense that the nonlinear function captures underlying geometry but nobody can put mathematical bounds on anything.
 
4:12 AM
@Cinch I suppose you could summarize most of how they work as "back propagation", but that probably doesn't tell you much in itself (but may be reasonable Google-fodder).
 
I was wondering if any psychological AI models exist
I was thinking of creating a program based on a moving-plant
 
Its not clear what you are talking about when you say "AI"
 
@Cinch Many (though most have produced little in the way of tangible results).
 
@Mikhail As in, making decisions based on values and patterns
I had this model I came up with like this:
All intelligence has 4 components:
Input
Output
Logic/Thought
and Memory/Storage
I was thinking that I could encode behaviour to arise based on core values
or needs
i.e. a plant needs light and water
 
sounds impractical, perhaps philosophical
 
4:15 AM
therefore logic would be tuned to achieving these goals
Not necessarily, most humans operate on core values
i.e. or, rather, needs
Hunger, thirst, warmth being some
 
@Cinch The number and identity of essential components is mostly a statement of your own philosophy. Different people have substantially different lists.
 
@JerryCoffin Yes, but the important part is that most people operate based on needs
Common ones being, yeah, I'd say hunger is one of them
 
You would benefit from studying the state of the art, there is an old joke about a poet who says "I'm a writer, not a reader"
 
@Mikhail probably
 
I use "AI" or ML for identifying features in images...
 
4:18 AM
@Mikhail Oh, well that's a bit harder
 
@Cinch Simply meeting physical requirements for survival doesn't necessarily qualify as what most would define as intelligence. Plants, for example, do it all the time.
 
@JerryCoffin Plants, indeed, exhibit some sort of decision making based on rules
But what about making trade-offs between decisions?
but most intelligent beings make use of pattern recognition to make these decisions as well
 
@Cinch What about it? I don't know that they do it--but I doubt I could prove they don't either.
 
@JerryCoffin I don't know if they do, but I would argue that we, as humans, do this
i.e. I won't hit the dog so that he won't bite me because it's painful
Pain being the negative trait that reinforces the core value of avoiding pain
And thus, derivative behavior will adhere to this law unless it conflicts with another core value
kind of like Newton's first law, but for behavior
 
@Cinch I don't think you're very far on your way toward identifying what I'd class as particularly intelligent behavior. Lower level animals learn to eat and avoid things that are painful (and arguably, at least some plants most likely do as well). "Intelligence", as most would define it requires abstraction rather than simple reactions.
 
4:23 AM
@JerryCoffin Is abstraction just generalized rules?
Abstraction also has its roots in pattern recognition
 
@Cinch Probably goes at least somewhat beyond just generalizing simple rules.
 
i.e. "All cats meow"
This is based on a large dataset that has been averaged out to an abstraction, a rule, etc.
 
-Wno-mismatched-tags thank you very much
 
"People suck" is decomposed into negative effects being derived from fellow human behavior
again, based on a huge data set of observation
Lined up with core values
 
@Cinch There's a degree to which that's probably true, but based on past experience, it's awfully hard to get from something like a neural network that can recognize text or even speech to (for example) being able to develop new proofs from a set of axioms.
 
4:26 AM
@JerryCoffin That's a problem, yes, which is why I thought of maybe going top-down rather than bottom up
Apparently even the human eye makes abstractions about curvature and such
 
Why is so much shit written in node.js that has nothing to do with networking?
 
@Cinch ...and lighting, relative sizes, etc. (as long as we accept "human eye" as really meaning "visual cortex of the brain").
 
@JerryCoffin (idk i can't remember the scientist I was reading about)
 
@Rapptz Sturgeon's law?
 
4:34 AM
@Cinch That seems to be about equally about two guys. But who knows--I never could could worth a damn.
 
could could worth a damn?
 
Signal<> ➜Init;
Signal<> ➜Pause;
Signal<> ➜Resume;
Signal<> ➜Quit;

➜Init.Connect(receiver,&Receiver::OnInit);
unicode is cool
 
4:52 AM
Did science figure out how to do an SVD of a large sparse matrix? Like 10k by 10k dense elements.
 
@Borgleader Hmmm...based on my fading memory, I think one of those was probably supposed to say "count".
@Mikhail Do you mean 10k x 10k non-zero elements?
 
@JerryCoffin yep
 
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A: SVD on a 65 million by 3.4 million sparse matrix

ZachIf it fits into memory, construct a sparse matrix in R using the Matrix package, and try irlba for the SVD. You can specify how many singular vectors you want in the result, which is another way to limit the computation. That's a pretty big matrix, but I've had very good results with this metho...

 
@JerryCoffin I guess it remains an open problem :-/
 
@Rapptz ?
 
?
 
don't know why this would be particularly interesting =/
 
Do you only like happy news?
 
No, but so many murders happen all over the world that I don't see why this is particularly linkworthy
 
5:22 AM
The irony.
 
5:46 AM
@Rapptz QQ
 
What do I use instead of if(done_first++) out << ", "; when interspersing separators?
Can’t think of anything better than std::exchange(done_first, true), let’s see if I have that.
eh why not
 
I've done this two ways.
 

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