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1:00 AM
^ do not let it get to "meanwhile", I agree
action is in fact required
 
I don't think the newspapers are actually portraying the real picture of the attack. This one was a failure. They wanted to take out thousands at the stadium.
 
Yeah obviously
@ElimGarak Exactly
 
there is only so much you can do with 8 guys with broken English using home-made EZ2-MAKE bombs
 
> ez2-make
lol
 
which mirrors the state of their tech
it's like when you're playing civ and you outtech your opponents
 
1:02 AM
Croatia's new motto "general insignificance for a safer tomorrow".
 
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@ScarletAmaranth Yeah, but that spearman can still kill your tank if he is in the right place at the right time.
 
@Lalaland inside the tank?
 
^ hh, this
 
@ElimGarak Wait, are you suggesting the use of a nuclear bomb against civilians there?
 
1:05 AM
I think Elim suggests killing a bunch now to prevent many deaths later
 
@Jefery I am not suggesting anything. I am a civilian who couldn't be less affected by it all. But, newsflash, nuclear weapons are designed for civilian damage.
 
@ElimGarak not even McGiver would be able to make that one in a garage out of fertilizer and chinese gunpowder from the local museum
 
@ElimGarak Dildos are also designed for penetration. Would you like to receive one in your ass?
 
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@AlexM. It was a Civ joke about how low tech units can still kill high tech ones if you have them fortified appropriately. And like on a mountain or something.
 
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With of course the right amount of luck.
 
1:06 AM
The fuck does that even mean?
 
@Lalaland I only played Civ 5 and I got beaten above the 2nd diff all the time
 
I can beat Civ 5 deity consistently bragging rights
 
@Jefery The way you react to it is precisely the point of a nuclear device.
 
"designed for", as if you had any right to use it for that just because it was designed to do it
 
Lara croft is real guys
 
1:07 AM
anyway, jefery entered his fantautistic mode again
I'm off to sleep
 
@Jefery Ah, there is a right distribution party which determines what should and should not happen?
 
cya
 
@ElimGarak Yes, it's for fear. But nuclear weapons are not even a choice here.
 
@ElimGarak You seem to think that ISIS cares about its civilian populace. They clearly don't. If anything, glassing Syria would just make their cause stronger
 
1:07 AM
You have thousands if not millions of people between those terrorists.
 
@ElimGarak do you not think that simply rolling in with US fancy airforce (not equipped with nukes) is enough?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь im not dying i hope
 
I don't think any of these overtures will change anything.
 
@AlexM. Well, that's good
I means "rest in peace"
 
You also seem to think a nuke would stop their agents who are... everywhere. Do you want to nuke France and Belgium too? Weren't half of the Paris attackers born in Belgium?
 
1:08 AM
So I'm wishing you restful sleep
 
can't you just wish me sweet dreams or sth I haven't been dreaming lately
 
sweet dreams are made of this
 
meh, I never have dreams
 
sweet dreams
 
1:09 AM
dream of high res polygons and CS or whatever else you like you nerd
 
@AlexM. wet dreams
 
wonder why linq to xml is written in one file
 
lovely song
@Borgleader lol those never happen :<
 
^ you wank too much
 
1:11 AM
What I believe gives ISIS its resolve is knowing that the western world is not going to do shit. All they'll do is posture for a week and then forget about it. And onto the next target. Rinse and repeat.
 
@ScarletAmaranth within normal limits I think
I hope
 
"This is completely unacceptable of ISIS and they should apologize."
 
They know we can't use nukes, yes.
 
But their stated reason they are attacking is in retaliation for bombings in the first place
 
"No?"
"Okay."
@Prismatic They also stated they will wipe out the infidels and turn the world in one glorious allah-whatever.
 
1:12 AM
No one's forgetting anything, there's an active campaign trying to blow them to bits and they are responding with terrorist attacks against the civilians of countries that are bombing them
 
An active campaign would be an overwhelming, terrifying force. This bit by bit is shit. You can't scare psychopaths without showing them you're a bigger one, even for a while. Fortunately, armies are not led by the likes of Jefery.
 
@JohanLarsson holy mother of shitsticks, why is this file 9315 lines long
 
maybe it is a maintenance optimization?
 
@JohanLarsson because they can
 
@набиячлэвэлиь search for Dink Smallwood's sources
it's a whole game written in one file
 
1:15 AM
It's not like everyone wants to go around killing people. It's just the reality that this is not going to stop until a serious response is delivered. I only hope we won't lose a Lounger in the process of that.
 
or the .net gc
 
well, two files but it's a bit more complicated
in one file it's the game that's not really the game and in the other file it's the game but not really the game
so together they form the game and ???
 
@AlexM. Bed is the other way
:P
 
I'm listening to doris day now
I have to finish
 
@ElimGarak We are talking about killing thousands of civilians
I'm still not sure how you can even justify something like that
 
1:18 AM
d:\Pobieranie\dink_source>ls
Compress.c  Dinkedit.dsp  dink.dsw      dinkedit.rc  fastfile.c    ffent.h      update_frame.cpp
Dink.dsp    ddutil.cpp    dink.ico      dinkvar.h    fastfile.h    license.txt
Dink.opt    ddutil.h      dink.rc       dsutil.c     ffcreate.c    readme.txt
Dink.plg    dink.cpp      dinkedit.cpp  dsutil.h     ffcreate.dsp  resource.h
@AlexM. Are you sure about that?
 
"They killed ~200 people in Paris so we are going to nuke them all, civilians and kids included"
 
"That will teach them"
 
@набиячлэвэлиь yes dinkvar.h contains the most relevant things
 
> * dinkvar.h is shared between the editor and the main game.
 
1:19 AM
11957 lines long
yup
 
@Jefery Yes, it would teach them. And again, and again. It would be over in under a week.
 
> *** HOW TO COMPILE AND TEST ***
>
> Use Microsoft Visual C++ 6 and open the dink.dsw. This houses all the projects.
 
I was able to compile with VS 2015 just fine after conversion
 
> Many innocents will sadly die. Better their innocents than ours.
 
It's not going to happen, but it would end it, fast.
 
1:19 AM
but I did have to install some old directx shit can't remember
 
@ElimGarak Do you value the life of one of those civilians that much less than any of our own?
 
> Kyoto had the advantage of being an important center for military industry, as well an intellectual center and hence a population better able to appreciate the significance of the weapon.
I don't think you understand nuclear warfare. And why it was so effective in '45.
 
> I love allah so much
I love all the turbans and sucicide boombings
allah is love I say ,allah is life
my dad hears me and calls me an extremist
I call him a jesus fan boy
he throws holy water and slaps me and sends me to bed
im crying and my turban is rekt
I feel a warm presence at my bed
its asamba bin laden
"its all over now"
baaang!!!!
Dead
 
Would you kill the same amount of people in your own country if that was to probably bring peace there?
 
what the fuck is that website
 
user406009
1:21 AM
That's a parody.
 
user406009
Of the Shrek is love, Shrek is life thingy.
 
Would you sacrifice your own life if that was to stop them?
 
@GregorMcGregor make your next name asamba
asamba wills it
 
Jesus fucking Christ, how far away from reality can you be to even suggest that?
With the excuse that in '45 it was the best strategical move possible in some context that has nothing to do with what we have here.
 
@Jefery Well then, let us wait until it becomes the best strategical move <3 Then it will set your peaceful mind at ease.
 
1:22 AM
@Prismatic Asamba Bin MSVC
 
It won't happen.
And now you are being passive aggressive.
 
@Jefery It would make me very happy if it were never to happen.
 
"But the truth is that it will"
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I remember VS refusing to format the code in the file entirely unless I selected a smaller subset or something like that
 
Dear lord
 
1:23 AM
(autoformatting)
 
you've been playin too much Fallout @ElimGarak :p
 
so it probably has a hardcoded limit
 
Things left unattended escalate. Let us just relax and watch it together.
 
They are not being left unattended
 
@AlexM. wht happened to going to sleep
 
1:24 AM
almost ready to go
 
"Guys, stahp. No... Guys, I said stahp. Hey! Stahp." is the current campaign.
 
Yes, there are pros and cons to everything. It's not everything as clear cut as you make it.
 
Actually a mix of bombing and political plays by backing different factions in the region is the current campaign
 
except for icecream choice of course
chocolate icecream is the best and there are no cons to it
 
there are
 
1:25 AM
@AlexM. I'm converting types in function arguments rn
 
truth, chocolate is love
chocolate is life
 
There's politics, there is Russia closing in, there are nearby states worried, there are terrorists hiding behind civilians. There are a shitton of variables of which you maybe know 20% of.
 
Looks like VS accepts them (co|contra)variantly
 
Everything is delicate.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Hold up...
Don't you have school tomorrow?
 
1:26 AM
Going down armed costs lives of our military forces.
And it costs money.
 
I'd cast my vote on the next city to be hit and the number of casualties, but I am uncanny at guessing because of years of stochastic rendering, so I don't want to be flagged by NSA or something by being right.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь And what time do you have to wake up?
 
@Nooble six something
 
@набиячлэвэлиь And what time is it now?
 
1:27 AM
Wow and you wouldn't warn your fellow loungers? Heartless
 
@Nooble I don't wanna look
 
@ElimGarak Yes, we all know they are capable of that. What about it? What's your point?
 
But seriously, jokes aside, it's terrifying.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь It's 2:27.
 
1:28 AM
@ElimGarak I hope it's not my city
haha jk why would it be my city
 
I need to go to sleep
 
Yeah, mine too. Ahahah, it's so irrelevant it is hilarious.
 
@ElimGarak NYC!
The best city.
 
NYC smells
 
@Nooble You guys already got yours, stop hogging. Let some other people have it.
oh, wait.
 
user406009
1:29 AM
@ElimGarak Or at the very least, watch islam.stackexchange.com
 
@Lalaland We should ask "Is it halal to nuke you as a response? Jefery says it is halal."
 
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I don't know whether that site is hilarious or scary.
 
What is scary about it
or hilarious
 
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33
Q: Is a woman required to have sex with her husband whenever he requests it?

Badger CatIs it a religious duty for a woman to have sex with her husband whenever he requests it? What if she is not in the mood? Should a man be understanding or is it expected from his wife to always obey even when she doesn't want to? There seems to be evidence that the husband always has control on t...

 
@Lalaland Yes.
I like how there are +33 votes.
> "If a husband calls his wife to his bed [i.e. to have sexual relation] and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning"
 
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1:32 AM
18
Q: Is punishment for leaving Islam death?

muslim1It is commonly believed that if someone leaves Islam, by Sharia law the punishment is death. Is that true? I have heard some different opinions. Dr. Zakir Naik was once asked a similar question and he responded that the punishment is death only if you tarnish Islam image in public and are public...

 
Ah.
 
@Lalaland Yes, in Emirates especially. You can choose between crucifixion and uhm, stoning.
 
I see we're in the "let's insult Islam" phase of the current events.
 
ikr
 
if only people worked for a living instead of caring about this stuff
k off to sleep for realz now cya boys dont fight k
 
1:32 AM
We are actually past that. We are in the "let's nuke Islam"
 
@ElimGarak so I've been to the institute and had a talk. I assume you used the railroad to build the thing, or else they would've kicked you out?
 
Sounds like something a redneck would say
Not a lounger
Goddamnit
 
@melak47 I pretended to be on both sides. What do you think of what happened?
I mean, all that channeling of hate towards the Institute to realizing what it actually is.
 
@AlexM. didn't work
Must be very VS-specific
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I originally had all the upgraded dink stuff as vs 2015 projects on github but deleted everything
shit you brought me back
 
1:35 AM
@Rapptz please no reasonable reasoning
 
"If a husband calls his wife to his bed [i.e. to have sexual relation] and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning" <- You can actually feel a man wrote that.
 
@ElimGarak well, so far they seem like nice people. haven't heard any explanation for the bodysnatching yet though.
 
@GregorMcGregor rip
 
Ell
man I have this gross code I want to show you guise
 
@AlexM. Bed is the other way
 
1:36 AM
@melak47 They usually kidnap people with high aptitude to join the Institute as scientists. Not much of a spoiler, I guess.
 
@ElimGarak so what about the lowlife from goodneighbor that was replaced? :D
 
@Ell Is it SFW?
 
Ell
it's NSFL
but it's my coursework so can't show until tomorrow after 18:00
 
Not Safe For Life?
@Ell :(
 
@ElimGarak I've also had a random encounter where a guy and a synth duplicate were both trying to get me to kill the other one :p
 
1:38 AM
@melak47 They also replace people in dangerous areas to monitor the situation, to determine threats to the Institute. Have you visited the Robotics division? The making of synths is fascinating, especially with "Imagine Utopia" in the background.
@melak47 I had a super mutant patrol come along and kill them both while I escaped ahahah
 
lol
 
If you're short on money, do the quest in Diamond City with the drug deal. 850 caps + 5k caps worth of drugs.
 
If I ever need money, I'll just sell some some of my 5 metric tons of loot
 
My only problem with them is the matter of synthetic intelligence, the NPC scientists constantly argue against and don't let me, with intelligence 10, to set them straight. In the institute, that is.
 
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@ElimGarak What about it?
 
user406009
1:40 AM
The scientists argue against AI?
 
Interesting, Krycek was in the X-Files ... before Krycek
sortof
 
user406009
There are serious existential issues with AI though.
 
Yeah, they make really smart robots which are basically like humans (and more in some respects) and then deny them AI status, sentience basically.
 
user406009
It's a very scary concept.
 
Ell
@ElimGarak is there a decent subreddit for 3d graphics?
alternatively, where do you learn all your knowledge?
 
1:42 AM
@Ell Experimentation, physics study and research papers on CG. :D
 
@ElimGarak I'm kinda worried how the dancing paladin will take it if I tell him that I uh...joined the enemy :p
 
@melak47 You can keep them oblivious for quite a while if you play along. :D
 
@melak47 The dancing paladin,.... oh FO4?
 
As for decent subreddits, I don't use reddit beyond r/fallout :D
 
Ell
@ElimGarak there's no easy way huh
 
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There are two very scary things about AI. First, there is the risk of self-improvement. If an AI can improve itself, it can improve itself indefinitely. This leads to almost infinite power eventually. Second, AI would have a completely different moral basis than our human morals. Every human being comes with a certain degree of empathy and shared morals. Most people are sad when they see death. Etc, etc. An AI would come without that stuff. There is no telling what an AI would do.
 
> If an AI can improve itself, it can improve itself indefinitely.
I don't believe in long-lasting exponential processes.
 
user406009
It doesn't have to last that long.
 
user406009
It just has to last long enough for all of us to be dead.
 
Is that really an issue though
 
Ell
1:45 AM
it's FUD
 
Even an AI is a "child" at one point, it's all about what you teach it / show it. And if a computer can conclude that compassion is pointless, then we all deserve to die.
 
user406009
Which wouldn't take that much in the scheme of things. A couple of nukes, etc, etc and we are all gone.
 
Ell
AI won't take over
 
But is it really an issue
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Yes, but human children come with some pre-built in morals.
 
Ell
1:45 AM
why would it? we control them
@Lalaland nah m8
 
@Lalaland Are they really built in?
 
Yes they are (some of them)
 
user406009
Yes, certain elements of empathy are built in.
 
Indeed, some. But it is a combination of both. A failure in the built in usually leads to the worst sociopaths.
 
user406009
You will be uncomfortable watching videos of people getting tortured for instance.
 
user406009
1:46 AM
Especially if the people being tortured are part of your "tribe"
 
Speak for yourself. I enjoy watching sehe coding in C++, for instance. And he's definitely part of the Lounge tribe.
 
I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees...
 
Ell
if you can build them into children
you can build them into AIs
 
That's a Mass Effect reference...
 
Ell
AIs are significantly easier to code than children :P
 
user406009
1:47 AM
@Ell That's a difficult task.
 
The crucial part of AI is the I. Whether it is organic or not, doesn't matter. If you've built it proper, it's not going to go berserk. If you fail, like nature statistically, hello Ted Bundy.
 
user406009
Correct, the organic or not part doesn't matter. The important part is how it is structured.
 
user406009
If you had a direct physics simulation of a human brain, that would probably be mostly ok.
 
Ell
why is it difficult?
Just hard code some no-nos
 
_crtDbgBreak
 
1:49 AM
@ElimGarak just found some synth relay grenades. these are cool :D
 
user406009
@Ell Now we get into topics such as Asimov's three laws of robotics (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics)
 
Ell
or just unplug the damn thing :P
 
user406009
Look at the loophole section.
 
X1-26 enter access code Alpha Zulu Zero One (AI switches off, Fallout 4).
 
user406009
@Ell A smart enough intelligence would convince you to keep it plugged in.
 
The synths are made believing they're human so they have no idea until you tell them the code.
Each has a special identifier and a special access code for debug shutdown, after which they can be reprogrammed.
 
user406009
Now, I personally feel that AI fears are currently overblown. We are way too far from anything approaching intelligence.
 
user406009
But, once we get to that level of technology, we should proceed with caution.
 
We are still ways off from quantum computing before we can even begin talking about it.
One comment on the video... "You're a nigger ;)"... What?
 
user406009
@ElimGarak In certain types of American slang, nigger can also mean "cool person" or "pal" or whatever.
 
user406009
1:56 AM
Don't ask me why.
 
user406009
Usually it's "You're my nigga" though.
 
@Lalaland Wha.
The -er though.
 
2:21 AM
Yay... its doing stuff
admittedly very little stuff, but still
feels good to be making progress after not touching this code for at least 3 months
 
I've been arguing with a friend that for bigger RPG games on mobile devices, due to thumb obstruction on two sides as it is, a first person camera is the more logical choice than 3rd person. What do you guys think?
 
@Borgleader You writing a PL?
 
@Jefery Yes im making yet-another-terrible-programming-language
 
Nice! :D
 
but its fun, when im not fighting llvm linker errors
 
2:27 AM
What are the highlights of the plan?
 
Tell you tomorrow, I was actually off to bed :)
 
Alright ;)
Night
 
night, bby, we'll try not to nuke you while you sleep
 
meh radiation, nothing a few nanoprobes cant handle
 
eh
 
Ell
2:28 AM
@ElimGarak top down rpg maker pls!
I want a zelda phantom hourglass style phone game
 
@ElimGarak Top down would work if you made the game work on gestures.
and tap to move
 
user406009
@ElimGarak You would probably want to use the same UI as those GBA RPGs.
 
user406009
Top down 2d type stuff.
 
I am wondering whether Apple has any intention of making that analogue stick turned home button.
 
Ell
2:42 AM
user image
5
 
Ell
3:20 AM
Lounge is sleeping
 
I'm not.
 
> Developing an automated Forex and Future trading strategy based on Elliott Waves using two NVIDIA Quadro K5000 graphic cards to calculate the optimal Elliott Wave in real time from rates delivered by the C# NinjaTrader framework implemented with CUDA C++11 collecting the data in PHP/MySql and submitting the orders to the broker through FIX interface written in Java.
people and punctuation
Also lol >realtime >Java >PHP/MySql
yes
 
> implemented with CUDA C++11
 
His only CUDA question sucks and isn't even really CUDA
> CUDA: Can I safely assume compiler stops after false in an && expression
can I safely assume you have no brain
 
It CUDA been a good CUDA question.
 
3:27 AM
7/10
 
I CUDA scored higher.
 
Uh oh, bomb attack in Jakarta
 
#prayforjakarta
 
user406009
3:36 AM
@GregorMcGregor I think you can theoretically do Java in somewhat close to realtime applications. There are no-pause GCs available.
 
Rekt.
 
Ell
I am trying to wrap my dick around stack programming
I wonder if I can implement enough Opcodes to generate a pretty picture in 6 hours
 
@Lalaland Java can only do continental-drift level of realtime
 
Ell
I'd think not :S
 
user406009
@Ell That sounds painful. Perhaps you should consider stopping?
 
Ell
3:41 AM
I need to sleep
Knight
 
user406009
Sleep tite.
 
Don't let the compilation errors bite.
 
user406009
I find that compilation errors are quite tame.
 
user406009
It's the runtime errors which fuck you up.
 
4:01 AM
I've reached a rather pathetic part of depression. Meh.
 
'sup Rapptz. Maybe you should go rest or something :/
 
4:19 AM
hiiiiiiii
 
so I just went to the grocery store, and they had pomegranate arils pre-removed from a pomegranate in a container. :)
 
but beating the devil out of the pomegranate to get those damned things out is half the fun
 
I happened to want them without the trial of extraction
boring, I know
 
nah i respect that
i wish i could make software without the trial of writing code
 
I mixed them with 85% cocoa chocolate chunks
decadence. :3
 
4:25 AM
nice, I love dark chocolate
 
user406009
@Prismatic You pay people to write it for you.
 
user406009
Or you could just post a couple of StackOverflow questions.
 
or I could just complain about stuff here :>
 
user406009
Ah, but no software ever comes out of this chat room.
 
user406009
At best, there is Kyrostat.
 
user406009
4:33 AM
And that went just as far as you would expect.
 
@Rapptz What's going on?
If you wanna talk ~~privately~~ get on IRC!
I also got a heartbreak this weekend
rip
 
rip
 
4:50 AM
Let's all not get depressed together
 
I miss my ex-gf.
 
She's an ex for a reason! Or so I hear people say.
 
@GregorMcGregor ...what the hell?
 
rarely works out that way friend
 
because 7,100,000 < 7,000,000
 
4:56 AM
Fox News.
 
clearly. What planet is that a graph on?
augh
Fox hurts my brain
 
USAUSAUSAUSSAetc
 
oh thank all that is sane in the world
 
@Rapptz pls no facts
 
4:58 AM
I suck at arts and crafts and it's making me feel worse
pls help
 
Too bad they didn't do Gwent in a more immersive way like this.
 
@Rapptz You're good at other things
 
ye but I'm trying to make a gift
 

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