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10:00 PM
@Borgleader I'm only there because I see no point in leaving the people I like to find a better job.
 
@Morwenn Your face is the most offensive thing since 1469, but everyone knows that
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ What.
@набиячлэвэлиь 1492, damn it.
 
@Morwenn j/k, I was jumping on the your face bandwagon
 
@набиячлэвэлиь HOW TO GET JOKE
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@Nooble it also works with "Nooble" if you rotate it twice, like elbooN you get Nooble again
I wonder whether it works with all words?
 
10:03 PM
@Borgleader I was jumping on your face.
 
@Morwenn looks like a girl
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ depends a lot on character encoding and reversal algorithms
 
@набиячлэвэлиь the next step should've been HOW TO RUIN JOKE
 
@Griwes One syllable too many
 
10:05 PM
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ weird, I can't make it to work coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/e45d9a22cdba1b7f
 
@sehe let's assume it's only for natural text without encodings. just graphemes
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ Thanks.
 
Unless you pronounce RUIN as rłin
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ okay, also without semantics then? Because some languages mandate different graphemes at the end/start of words etc.
I mean. Underspecified problems killed the cat
 
@sehe woaAA! that's what I was seeking for
 
10:06 PM
And here I was just being facetious :)
 
@sehe what if we operate in the semantic layer
 
But it exists
 
alright, time to play with xdo
 
is the mapping to the other grapheme and back unique?
 
@Morwenn ow =/
 
10:07 PM
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ I suspect not. But really you'd have to consult language experts there
 
@Borgleader she doesn't look heavy
 
doing the full clean out of the cats tray takes far too long :\
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ I have fragile bones, I'm of avian descent (as should be obvious by my avatar)
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ It depends on what you consider heavy.
 
girls feet are soft
 
10:10 PM
@Morwenn heavy enough to look male, apparently :P
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ not really... just people who don't use them much
 
@thecoshman Haha, that's probably why they are softer than they used to be :D
 
@thecoshman They have no problem catching me with my bottle of water.
 
@thecoshman just like in germany
 
10:16 PM
@DarenCoffey was it loaded, though
 
Time to go hooooooooooooooooooooooooooome
 
in most places in germany, security crowd is privatized and try to opimize their throughput rather than being careful to detect guns and stuff
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ ergh, contracting out jobs only helps save money directly. Actually getting quality out if it is very hard. The money you save has to be spent paying other people to make sure the contractors do what you need them to.
 
@Morwenn Isn't that like in the middle of the nowhere?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Not in the middle. It's at the very edge of nowhere.
 
10:21 PM
Wait, let me Google.
Oh.
> Bretagne
Well, that explains that.
 
France, not Belarus.
Yes, Bretagne :D
 
You're all a bit crazy there.
 
As is everyone everywhere.
 
alright, played with libxdo
This thing is pretty elegant.
 
@Griwes i have seen it used in "odp2pdf" I think
it uses xdo to remote-control libreoffice..
 
10:23 PM
:D
I'm truly surprised something this nice exists for Xorg.
And it's sensibly licensed!
 
@Griwes it actually opens the odp, then starts a full-screen presentation, navigates through each slide and then does screenshots of each slide. that way, it captures all the animations in the ODP.
unfortunately the resulting PDF has only pictures, no vector graphics or text :(
 
Beer.
 
I've seen a plugin for PowerPoint that actually splits the presentation into individual slides, each one with a different stage of the animations.
It was pretty nice.
 
@Griwes oh, nice
 
ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ's name reminds me of the names people used to have on MSN messenger and ICQ
so much charmap abuse
 
10:33 PM
@Griwes there is one for libreoffice aswell, but it sucks :( doesn't work for most useful animations
lol
I want to change it, but SO forbids.. i have to wait a month
 
howdy all
 
@thecoshman wooooooah neato
@LuckyLuc hi
 
So some random female added me on Facebook, she heard from a friend that I work in "the industry", whatever the fuck that means... She has an idea. How do I tell her that I don't give a flying, driving, sailing fuck without necessarily hurting her feelings?
 
What do you mean by idea
 
10:40 PM
oh, so this is why @Puppy doesn't like to go outside
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@Prismatic You know, those people with "app ideas"
 
poor dog
 
@ElimGarak "I'm sorry, but I'm not interested."
 
@ElimGarak Oh. My. Fucking. God.
 
@Jefery Did that, she's not giving up.
Also "I'm too busy with work" doesn't work
 
10:41 PM
Tell her you're pretty busy w
 
Block and ignore
 
oh
 
then I'd cut right to the point and tell her that you don't give a flying fuck.
 
Give her your hourly rate
 
or potentially, you should offer her the flying fuck.
three flying fucks and I'll do your idea for you
 
10:42 PM
$200usd/hr
 
@Prismatic Lol
 
@ElimGarak ask her if she knows about the stereotypical sexist programmer nerd :P
if so, act insulted, if not, act it :P
 
Ah, no, she's one of those incredibly generous people who are willing to share the profits off the app :P
 
I don't get how someone can move beyond "I don't have time, I'm busy"
 
God, they're hilarious
 
10:44 PM
That's like someone walking up to an author with a "book idea" and wanting to share in the profits
 
@Prismatic Oh, come on, it's a great idea... And then express this sentiment in a million different ways, carefully polite so I can't tell them to fuck off without looking like a dick.
I think I'll just accidentally block her.
 
@ElimGarak Honestly I think in that case she's being a dick, even if she doesn't know it, and it's time to be direct.
you're gonna block her anyway so what's the loss if she does get hurt
 
Nah you can be firm and just say "It may be a great idea, but I'm just not willing to work on it and you're not going to change my mind, sorry."
 
I just plonked her like telkitty. Great success, no confrontation.
 
I see you follow my advices literally
 
10:47 PM
Well, points at least for trying to be nice.
 
@ElimGarak So I have this app idea.
 
@Nooble Does it handle people with app ideas? I'd pay for that.
 
I don't even know why you would care about being nice with that girl but have no issue recommending deployment of a nuke in the middle east
 
@ElimGarak No it's even better.
 
lets make a lounge app
 
10:48 PM
We can call it Icicle and it's a rendering thingy.
 
@Prismatic ooh
 
@ElimGarak what was that girl's app idea
 
as long as it makes duck sounds I'm in
 
lets make an app for one of these bad boys
 
10:50 PM
@Prismatic People construe that as being interested, also some are actually really protective of it and stuff.
One dude got seriously offended and mad when I rejected his proposal. It got a bit hairy.
 
people are dorks
 
I actually alienated a few friends by telling them how unrealistic they are.
 
@Prismatic That cracked me up because it reminded me of the Robot Chicken clip
 
@DarenCoffey Hi Jerry.
 
I love the argument "Twitter was a stupid idea, as well".
 
10:54 PM
You'd think if people are so into their idea they'd learn how to write the apps themselves
 
You're not making the next Twitter, man. Even if you were, I wouldn't want to be a part of yet another blight upon humanity.
 
well Twitter is actually really struggling to monetize ;p
 
@ElimGarak ahaha
 
Twitter is cool though
I'd say its a net positive on humanity
 
@ElimGarak Ikr
 
10:54 PM
@Prismatic You're lucky Jerry is not around :P
 
I'm missing the whole Jerry thing
 
Our friendly local wasp!
 
I can't remember the last time I've thought an 'idea' for a business was genuinely cool
 
Wide tech support
 
Oh wait now I remember, there was this company that let you hire entire teams instead of individuals
So you could have a team of your programmer buddies and get hired all together to work on a project. Seemed interesting
Is Wide still under active development
 
10:58 PM
yes.
 
So, what exactly do the "idea people" do in these types of situations?
 
Is that an actual thing.
 
Yes, it was actually brought about on our request. Of course, we didn't propose the name, that's all Microsoft.
Though, I like when popele ask what does it do and it is literally verbose. It is the largest one yet, 74 characters.
 
11:09 PM
 
perhaps they now detect bISon as malicious
 
should I be using an anti virus on linux
 
you should not be using that anywhere IYAM
 
= In Your Arse M8
 
11:15 PM
what sense does the M8 have
 
I love it when the error messages have more LOC than my library.
 
Meight, mate?
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ "mate"
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ -lreoffice
 
11:16 PM
what is your library about
 
@набиячлэвэлиь whats that
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ Are you on mobile?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь do you refer to my earlier post about remote controlling and how libreoffice allows that natively?
wait, now i understand why they name it -lreoffice. that's fun :D
 
It's a pun on libreoffice
 
11:18 PM
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ Please clue us daft critters in on the fun.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь i know there's that remote control thing. but odp2pdf is something different entirely.
@CaptainGiraffe what H... said
 
Ell
lrioOffice
 
Lightness races in Office
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that's not funny
 
@Jefery That is really fun =)Your message is not only useful. It is also aligned with my sentiments. Which seems to be in contrast with Schaubs feelings.
 
11:23 PM
I thought LRiO came back and announced his candidacy for the Office.
 
> Oops, It looks like you tried to write to a bucket that isn't yours or doesn't exist yet. Please create the bucket before trying to write to it.
wanker
 
Who?
 
travis
 
I just heard a Brit, a Londoner I believe, use a lot of oi or oy. What is the meaning/purpose of that expression?
 
11:26 PM
oi is usually an informal way of getting someone's attention
like 'hey, you'
 
@ElimGarak Looks fine :p
 
Now I need to work on the girly hands.
 
also of expressing displeasure sometimes
 
@ElimGarak you do modeling?
 
really "hey" is a pretty close alternative in most cases I can think of
 
11:27 PM
I thought you were an engine dev
 
@Prismatic It's a photo of him.
 
@ElimGarak Like reducing the thumb?
 
@Prismatic Modeling, rigging, unwrapping, animating, motion capture, texturing and stuff.
 
@Prismatic I'd call it rude, not informal
 
@Morwenn Yeah, but hands are really subtle and tricky and stuff.
 
11:28 PM
@Prismatic Don't tell me there's no hope at all!
 
@ElimGarak Even in real life you can generally tell sombody's sex by their hands.
 
And how often
 
@ElimGarak so... you're not an engine dev? you're a graphics pipeline guy
 
I imagined it at the time as a rude way of calling on attention. It was a barrage of oi-s.
 
@Prismatic I am that as well. I grew up in a country where I had to be all or nothing.
 
11:28 PM
@Prismatic Out there in the cold, getting lonely, getting old, can you feel me?
 
@ElimGarak jack of all trades, eh? neato
@Jefery Are these song lyrics
 
@Prismatic Standing in the aisles, with itchy feet and fading smiles, can you feel me?
 
I always thought 'oi' was like 'yo'
 
i think "oi" is like "what ar you doin"
 
oi bruv, dis bus is late, innit?
 
11:30 PM
ehhhh
 
@Prismatic Yes
 
Maya's shortcuts on OS X are so messed up. :( But Zbrush is pretty great, when it doesn't crash every hour or so.
 
it can be used in that fashion but relatively rarely is
and furthermore it's almost always used as to express your dissatisfaction with the person you're speaking to (when used that way)
 
=) "what ar you doin" was not the case here. I guess I'll have to trust on my perception of context to parse the expression correctly.
 
I was a 3ds max man meself
pullin verts every which way back in highschool
 
11:31 PM
it's mostly just used to get someone's attention.
 
those were the days
 
@ElimGarak Really nice work.
 
I think I am going to remove the nipples though. There is no genitalia either. People get fuzzy about that.
 
@Puppy That's my take from your suggestions. Thanks.
 
the right arm at the top looks a bit rectangular
 
11:32 PM
Good to know, I'll refrain from using oi if I ever go to london lol. Don't want to tick anyone off
What's the point of 3ds max even existing anymore? Doesn't autodesk now own both that and maya?
 
@Prismatic I can imagine it to be perceived as low-brow.
 
Oh it needs a lot more work yet. Paintinging in the muscles is a bitch, especially when you have to determine the nature of the character. Is it a strong female or an average one, etc. For right now, its purpose is the collision object for clothes creation.
 
i think "oi" is used when you find something strange that others do. like, saying "really??"
 
simplescreenrecorder is such a dope util
 
@Prismatic Yeah, 3ds Max was built by Discreet and Maya was originally done by Alias. Autodesk bought both as they commanded a considerable market share among AAA developers and feature film animators. There isn't a clear cut, but stereotype is that animators are Maya users and game dev modeling of the old was done in Max.
There's still a market for both, some studios like Guerilla Games actually don't have world editing toolsets of their own, they use 3ds max as the game/world building tool by extending it, CryEngine has quite a bit of its pipeline stuck in 3ds max for material generation and stuff.
 
user1804599
11:37 PM
Hello!
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ I should post on EnglishLanguage, get contradicting high rep answers, get a sweet ride to Hot questions, get an easy +1k (+/-) rep. Hmm.... (4 dots).
 
@Elyse Hi sweetie :D
 
user1804599
Just played video games.
 
Nowadays, modeling is heavily done in Zbrush and Modo, while 3ds max/Maya is like the staging area where the finalized meshes can be placed and scaled and stuff, before export to editors on top of the engine, for final placement and logic wiring (if any).
 
Yeah, I never tried any of the 'new' modeling tools like zbrush out. Ive seen videos though they look really cool
 
11:39 PM
@ElimGarak Does blender understand those formats? I've been spending an unreasonable amount playing with blender lately.
 
No more subdividing boxes to build your mesh :p
 
@CaptainGiraffe Many of them are shared, however in AAA the preferable interchange format is FBX. Because everyone is in bed with Autodesk. And Autodesk and Pixologic and Adobe have integrated IPC in most of their products.
 
where can I upload webms
 
@ElimGarak IPC?
 
11:41 PM
Interprocess communication, Crytek takes it to a whole new level by realtime updating stuff in the editor from 3ds max as you're doing work. Part of their attempt to cut into the cinematic market, not sure how that is working out for them.
 
@ElimGarak Informative. Thanks.
 
well again 1-0 for windows agains linux, why does linux always have to be harder to setup for development than linux :( On windows 5m inutes, on linux.. well, i.imgur.com/MUdbXgG.png infinite research to which packages need to be installed, fixing errors/warnings, trying to install everything,
making everything permanent is a pain in the ass too, now I am root on the systemm and that tool doesn't allow root? great. run it with lesses privilidges? access denied ewrros, Oh linux, great wife material... never knows what is wants
 
that sounds interesting, but you need to be good at arts to create such girls
 
A lot of butt naked references which look really suspect on your harddrive and other monitors while you're working.
 
@ElimGarak do you have a girl model sitting next to your PC?
 
11:43 PM
@Borgleader <3 <3 <3
 
autodesk also bought out a game engine
I wonder what happened to that
it was called bitsquid or something
 
@Prismatic South Park Stick of Truth was developed on top of Autodesk's game suite.
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ Lots of references photos of naked girls of all proportions made specifically for modeling anatomically correct characters, which is really uncomfortable to explain to people who have no idea what you're doing. :D
 
everyone i made a thing: webmshare.com/play/LJKOB
please feel free to shower me with praise
 
@Prismatic Lewd & kinky :3
 
@Prismatic Looks like the next Twitter, man. :D
 
11:47 PM
@Prismatic Reminds me of Aghanim in A Link to the Past.
 
@Prismatic is it Qt with the scenegraph?
 
@ᐅJohannesSchaub-litbᐊ Nope! All my own stuff on top of SDL providing me with input/windowing/OpenGL
Actually I moved away from Qt because LGPL
 
i see. you liked GPL more?
 
GUI.. meh
go old skool console
less frustration
 
11:49 PM
No I needed something that wan't *GPL
 
i mean the situation before it moved to LGPL :p not sure whether it was GPL in particular
hm i see
 
Yeah I think it was GPL2. Then they added LGPL2... now they've moved to GPL3/LGPL3
As always you can get a commercial license too if you want
 
Also
LGPL is restricted on certain platforms thats why I had to jump ship to something more permissive :]
 
Makes me think that I should move static_math to MIT.
 
user1804599
11:52 PM
Lol this game I just played is apparently written in Pascal.
 
good (time of day) Lounge!
 
@Gizmo I'm sorry @Gizmo, but I've just deduced you to be an idiot. You can resubmit to change that decision.
 
@CaptainGiraffe (just plonk him)
 
ploin ploin ploink
 
@Morwenn burrito time for me is early tonight. Sleep was not had in great abundance last night.
 
11:54 PM
@jaggedSpire Internet Chatroom Timezone says it's morning when you greet people.
@jaggedSpire I think I'll burrito pretty hard tonight too :D
 
@Morwenn :D
@Morwenn At least for me, the timestamps on the sides of the most recent posts match my local time zone, and the transcript does UTC
@Morwenn Thus I deduce: Good morning!
 
@jaggedSpire That's it :D
 
@Morwenn twirls top hat fancily
 

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