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8:03 AM
template<concepts::Tuple X> kinda too verbose, no?
@sbi oh wow the follow-ups
 
@LucDanton a li'll (I guess "using namespace concepts" would counteract?)
 
I’m just hacking for now, I’ll give it a full think later but opinions welcome in the meantime
 
@VermillionAzure actually, it's probably a disservice to society to have that deleted
Why keep things a secret that saves lives. /I/ had never heard of it. Let alone that I tell someone about it that it would be relevant to
 
Anything I say is a gratuitous service to society
 
It's my mistake to have ever brought it up in the first place
 
8:15 AM
Stop the taboo
It does more harm than anything
 
requires(It it, diff_t<It> n) { typename diff_t<It>; { it + n } -> It; } is not as nice as I thought it could be
 
@VermillionAzure Why does that matter? I didn't know. You don't need to imply it.
If you hadn't acted defensively, I'd just have thought Cicada was being Cicada
As I still do, actually
 
who is cicada
6
 
since diff_t<N> is substituted first for the purpose of the diff_t<It> n pseudo-parameter, it turns out that typename diff_t<It>; is redundant
obv. it makes sense but when it comes to expressing intent I don’t really know what’s best
 
> Food Is More Important Than You Think
Ah, this one must be from the "I am the poster, I am smarter than you" school of thought or lack there of.
 
8:22 AM
@ElimGarak Relevant
 
> unsigned short atobus (const char* nptr);
lol atobus
 
why the b?
 
shinobus
 
@Rapptz bounded apparently
 
ic
 
8:24 AM
there's also atobsi which sounds a lot like autopsy
10/10
 
template<typename Tuple, int... Prefix, int Removed, int... Suffix>
static constexpr std::tuple<tuple_element_t<Prefix, Tuple>..., tuple_element_t<Suffix, Tuple>...>
impl(Tuple&& tuple, indices<Prefix...>, indices<Removed, Suffix...>)
    requires (concepts::Constructible<tuple_element_t<Prefix, Tuple>, tuple_element_t<Prefix, Tuple>> && ...)
        && (concepts::constructible<tuple_element_t<Suffix, Tuple>, tuple_element_t<Suffix, Tuple>> && ...);
 
@GregorMcGregor auto_sbi
 
this is a 'one'-liner implementation detail
how2indent?
 
with tabs
 
...
 
8:29 AM
Use clang-format™
 
@LucDanton I like it enough as it is; alt: paste.ubuntu.com/13297485 (that's my clangformat)
 
@Rapptz is that thing configurable? I don't like what it did to templates last time I ran it from VS...
 
@sehe hanging && not too weird?
 
ofc
 
@melak47 how is VS relevant here (except to invite sneers :))
 
8:31 AM
@sehe tangent: set for Tuple &&tuple?
 
@sehe just to say that I ran it from the clang-format plugin from VS, which may or may not use stupid defaults :)
 
@LucDanton ETOBRIEF
 
all this actually hurts the eyes on a light background :(
 
@melak47 Ah. That's relevant
 
@sehe why come your thing is set to format references to e.g. Tuple &&tuple
 
8:33 AM
@LucDanton I might align the two terms of the requires clause
 
@melak47 yeah it makes everything stands out like a big block of paragraph
I’ll keep it like that for now
 
@LucDanton Oh. Dunno. It's something that it did, apparently. I don't spot that in everyday use. Mmm. It could be I'm seeing a different .clang-format.
(I've just booted into a "new" ubuntu install today because my disk was getting seriously full. Have been living with <150mb free for >week)
 
millibits are hardcore
 
@LucDanton It's Tuple&& tuple you marshmallow
 
okay, I’m getting closer to something that compiles
 
8:38 AM
Ooh! Toasted tuples.
 
@Rapptz I’m starting to see improved diagnostics!
> error: constraint 'concepts::detail::is_std_integral_constant<std::integral_constant<long unsigned int, 1ul> >()' does not have type 'bool'
 
neat
 
i.e. that’s one fragment in a requires {} expression :)
 
nice
 
@LucDanton Did you manage to make mutually-referencing concepts work?
or anything close to that
 
8:39 AM
@AndyProwl dunno, the compiler loops and I don’t know if it’s me fucking up (i.e. not allowed to do that)
 
@LucDanton lol, nice :D
 
@AndyProwl also I actually was toying with a self-referring concept, I don’t think I’ve run into mutually-defined concepts yet (even though we did mention mutual stuff at the time)
not that it should make much of a difference but still
 
I think self-referencing should be possible
 
@Rapptz Guess I'll read this and tinker with it :)
 
just use the concept name or the T somewhere in the requires expression?
 
8:42 AM
@AndyProwl yes, if the terminating condition is simple enough GCC is happy, e.g. concept Bool Foo = is_void_v<X> || requires(X x) { { x.lol() } -> Foo; };
 
also @Stacked when you'll have some time please consider installing the newest Clang on Coliru, so Windowers can play with concepts too :P
 
Good morning
 
@LucDanton Yeah, that's sort of what I had in mind
 
BBL
 
It blew up when I had a requires { … } || requires { … } setup
 
8:44 AM
that might be an unrelated bug
 
…smart thinking, let me try that
 
I remember hearing weird things about Sutton's implementation in GCC
 
I have made mistakes.
 
@Rapptz that was fast
 
@Rapptz What kind?
 
8:45 AM
 
oh and according to what I heard GCC's implementation treats x as an rvalue in requires(X&& x) { foo(x); }
 
@Jefery are you getting old?
 
I rekt myself too
 
4 hours ago, by Elim Garak
@Prismatic He's trying to cast away the ex from gf.
 
8:46 AM
@Rapptz oh, haha, we're so aligned
I can't cast the 'ex' away though, I'm afraid
 
static_cast<ex_gf>(gf)
 
@AndyProwl fixed now
 
okay
 
@AndyProwl :(
Maybe she's asleep. (or rather, I hope that's the explanation for being ignored)
 
yes it's 4:48 AM
 
8:48 AM
soul_gem_cast<ex_gf>(...)
 
@Rapptz I wouldn't be surprised
@GregorMcGregor actually, the other way round
 
@GregorMcGregor 3:38 AM actually.
 
You can also use a luc_danton_cast to ignore all timezone differences
@Rapptz Oh yeah DST?
 
Yeah.
 
Egh I need some good issue tracking thing
Simple but not primitive
 
8:49 AM
Hexapoda!
 
ecstatic_cast
 
...
 
Phabricator has a thing
 
I am afraid ex_gf -> gf can only be done with a desperate reinterpret_cast. Using the gf interface may result in a triple fault and public humiliation.
 
Phabricator is bit too heavy for this
I need RAMs for Git
 
8:51 AM
@AndyProwl Why's that?
ISTR you broke up with her no?
 
@CatPlusPlus No clue what RAMs "are/is". But be? (bugs-everywhere)
 
@Rapptz Yeah, but she sounds very cold and not willing to go back
 
When you break up with someone, it is a sign of weakness to try to cast the ex away.
 
It is a sign of instant regret.
:v
 
@sehe I thought about it but their own web interface has been 502 every time I check it so that's not very encouraging
 
sbi
8:52 AM
@ElimGarak No. It's a sign you're human.
 
I have to make a list of all the things I minded so I stop freaking out about losing her
 
@CatPlusPlus ah
being human is a sign of weakness
 
I'm feeling hella depressed.
 
high five
 
Sucks.
 
8:53 AM
@CatPlusPlus well idk of anything that's non web-based tbh
 
sbi
@AndyProwl Yet another list! Why don't you start by making a list of all the lists you ought to make?
 
@Rapptz no people to go out with?
 
Web-based is fine
 
have your favorite food
 
@sbi I don't remember talking about other lists
 
8:53 AM
Man, Rapptz, it's really hitting you hard. Is she your first or just really special?
 
or favorite MSVC variadic bug
 
latter
 
sbi
@sehe You say this as if it would be a bad thing.
@AndyProwl See!
 
She's like my 13th gf or something
 
@Rapptz why did you break up again?
 
8:53 AM
@AndyProwl not as simple as that
 
not at all
 
@Rapptz Is she special because it is a prime number and the next one is 17
 
@LucDanton ah, too bad
 
@GregorMcGregor lol sure
 
sbi
@GregorMcGregor If she was the 13th, the next one will be the 14th, not the 17th.
 
8:54 AM
I'd wait for the 23 one, because ~~underage~~
 
@sbi You suck at prime numbers
 
19th?
 
She's for fun
 
@AndyProwl According to her we haven't actually broken up. She says we are taking "a break". I see no difference though.
 
At least it wasn't her 13th birthday #jailbait
 
sbi
8:55 AM
@GregorMcGregor You suck at relationships.
 
@Rapptz Ooooh, that's a bad sign.
 
@Rapptz oh, she broke up. Sorry I missed that part
 
That's like a neon bad sign that pulses.
 
well, "taking a break" sounds temporary
 
@sbi I don't think so!
 
8:55 AM
Cue 5 seasons of 'we were on a break'
 
@AndyProwl Experience says it's not.
 
sbi
@GregorMcGregor Well, I don't think I suck at primes.
 
@Rapptz Eh, hence the 'sounds'
 
It's right up there with "We need to talk".
 
Well last time I checked 14 is not prime yet
Maybe in the next standard
 
8:56 AM
try base 5
 
"I met this guy and I really want to see where it goes, but stick around if it fails and stuff."
 
oh shit
 
Taking a break sounds like the Ross and Rachel thing.
 
it's not
 
I prefer base 10 :smirk:
 
8:56 AM
@ElimGarak I know relationships that worked with that
sounds fucked up but it works
 
I've seen it too, but it failed a year or so later
 
sbi
@AndyProwl Hell, I know relationships that are "open", and have been so for 25 years. That's not for everyone, though.
 
@sbi Definitely not
 
@ElimGarak That thought has gone through my mind yes but I do not believe that's a case and that's not me being optimistic.
 
@sbi GNU/Relationship
 
8:59 AM
Andy prefers unique_ptrs to grlz.
 
problem is: I'm not sure I should even try that desperate cast. The problems remain: do I want kids with her? Am I still going to mind the things I minded and miss the things I was missing? Isn't going to end up the same in like 1 year or so? What I know for sure is that I miss her terribly, but I don't know if that's enough of a reason for that cast
@ElimGarak Nah, girls are much better than unique_ptrs
 
You'll miss her until you find someone else
 
But I did and I still miss her
And I realized I don't want that someone else
 
@AndyProwl But unique ptrs offer deterministic destruction!
 
@AndyProwl But that's ... unrelated
 

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