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10:00 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Unless... it's 150 times colder in Celsius!
 
@Griwes Right. That's why those are clearly weasel numbers. The only thing it says is "it's cold as fuck". The number is meaningless.
 
Xeo
> Syntax error: expecting colon before comma
 
That colder 150 times in Celsius would be -1.8. Meh.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. I am just making fun of the article putting an actual number there.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I believe the relevant law is this one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wien%27s_displacement_law
 
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@Xeo eww colons before commas.
 
Xeo
10:10 AM
I have no idea, what that 'syntax error' is trying to tell me
As far as I'm aware, there's no valid syntax in AS3 that has ':,'
> Syntax error: expecting colon before rightbrace
Same for that one
 
Hello
 
Xeo
Ye
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ;_;
 
10:18 AM
Is OpenStreetMap any good?
 
user1804599
@Xeo it expects a label :P
 
Xeo
AS3 has no goto, so... no? :P
 
user1804599
Hmmmm.
 
> Saving custom routes is currently not a supported feature in the new Google Maps. The new Google Maps has a limit of about 10 custom points you can add to a route.
Impressive.
 
user1804599
Are you using MSVC to compile AS3?
2
 
10:20 AM
Why the fuck do they do this :(
 
VS2013 is taking a while to install...
First I needed to update IE which I never use which also took a while...
 
user1804599
Installing IntelliJ took less than a tenth of a second.
 
user1804599
$ tar xf idea.tar.gz
 
I got vs2012 and my classmate is using 2013. Asked him if he could save the project for 2012 but he didn't -_-
 
user1804599
Threaten him.
 
10:24 AM
lol not an option
 
@HamZa Why do you have to update the browser to install an IDE?
 
Xeo
VS uses IE as an internal browser
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey Because otherwise nobody would install IE, duh.
 
Ha, VS2013. Poor sod.
 
@Jefffrey that's what surprised me... Now I have ~8 IDE's installed ...
 
Xeo
10:26 AM
@FilipRoséen-refp I think you mean "standard library containers" in your title
 
@Xeo thanks, edited!
honestly I couldn't come up with a good title.. now it's "Why can swapping standard library containers be problematic in C++11 (involving allocators)?", but tags in titles are bad
I might change it back
 
@FilipRoséen-refp If naturally integrated, it's fine.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes alright, I'll keep it, thanks.
aaand.. I'm bored
 
@FilipRoséen-refp save the world!
 
@HamZa haven't I tried soo many times..
 
10:34 AM
hehe :)
 
Xeo
bla.x += v; // Error: Access of possibly undefined property x
// in bla's class
public function set x(v:int):void
the error could be a little more helpful
It's missing a getter for x :/
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit every good Java scout always has a getter and a setter, even if they do literally nothing (public is too mainstream)
 
Xeo
'cept these setters do something special
 
@ScarletAmaranth o.o
 
10:41 AM
I wonder what happened to
the terms accessor and mutator
they've been pushed out by getter and setter it seems
 
Ugh getters & setters...
while he writes some more C# properties
 
to me, private implies there's an invariant to protect
 
To me private is a soldier in the armed forces
 
but you aren't protecting much if you have two dummy methods allowing unrestricted access to whatever the hell it is that you're ''protecting''
 
10:56 AM
I have seen your update. I meant for you to post a new question, since your updated question would invalidate existing answers. Nevermind, I've just posted a new answer then. — sehe 21 secs ago
People don't really seem to care how SO works
 
boost.spirit should have @sehe as a tag alternative, so that it would ping him whenever a new question was available
 
evening
I was forced to cuddle Daisy extensively when I returned
 
@sehe And, in other news, the sky is blue
 
@ScarletAmaranth They have this feature already. E.g. stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/boost-spirit or even the rss stackoverflow.com/feeds/…
 
@sehe yeah but you have to "subscribe" for it - so to speak
 
> If you see "WHERE IS THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION?" above the map and the Google map being cropped at the bottom, this is because you have not accepted cookies at the ESA site. To fix, you have the option of going to their site and accepting the cookies, which option appears at the top of their page, and then reloading this page.
lol....
 
> Cyrilc writing is beautiful, but for non-cyrilic users it is unreadable!
 
also that's awful English
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery TIL if you can't read Cyrillic you can't read Cyrillic
 
I wonder which part of is it that beautiful
 
11:11 AM
probably some murican discovering that "wow, there are other alphabets out there"
 
yes
Muricans think American English is and should be the default for all humanity, because they are the "current" Earth society and all the rest are just antiquated legacy countries
it's undeniably sad
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's not
 
I also think that English should be the only language on this planet
 
@Abyx You're undeniably sad
 
11:14 AM
because it's easier to learn one language instead of many
 
TIL there's an actor called Billynaire Cruz
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What about Cyrilc?
 
@Abyx english is a poor language compared to arabic, japanese and much more
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The jury's still out on that one
@Abyx If you wanted to pick just one language, English would be a very poor choice in terms of expressiveness and ease of learning.
Even "British" English
 
@Abyx I don't see why we would pick english over the thousands of other languages that exist
 
11:15 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nope it's ok. people use it just fine
 
@Abyx People use every other language just fine, too. Stop being biased.
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery because currently it's the most popular language
 
Also, people don't use it just fine.
 
hahahahahahahaha
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes native speakers do. mostly
 
11:16 AM
Have fun witnessing people using English in your bubble of English speakers.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Quite. Take 90% of Stack Overflow posts for a blindingly obvious counter-argument to Abyx's nonsense.
 
@Abyx No it's not
 
@Abyx oh so you choose by popularity...
 
@Abyx It's not.
Again, have fun in your bubble.
 
What's even more sad is that Abyx can't even blame this hooliganism on being American!
 
11:18 AM
anyways, as a non-native english speaker I feel sad that I have to learn english now and I don't know it from birth.
 
> Quran told about big bang theory 1400 years ago, السماء و الارض كانتا رتقا ففتقنهما
I love this stream
 
> fb-100004979080060: Sure, and in english that means?
oh my
@Abyx I feel the same way about Chinese and Arabic, both of which will almost certainly be far more useful by the time I hit 60
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I positively agree
I already need them a lot, actually
Too lazy to learn
 
Xeo
@Abyx I feel that way about Japanese :(
 
> LediNoch = If you can, translate to english.
#dix
 
11:19 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lolwut? white a program in Chinese or Arabic, moron
 
> tomalak-1 adrianronaldmasters: Go translate it if you want to. No reason to force people to speak YOUR language
Who could that be
 
@Abyx Oh, what, you write programs in English now? Impressive, but I don't think I shall ever hire you if all you can do is write pseudocode algorithms.
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Who is stealing my good name!?
 
@Abyx lolwut? white a program in English, moron
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I write'em with Latin letters. that's the point
 
ITT knowing two dozen words is the same as knowing a language.
 
11:20 AM
That famous Latin letter ->
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes @LightnessRacesinOrbit @Xeo stackoverflow.com/q/23758399/1090079 what do you think of that? ("THE SILLY STORY" might be a little.. too silly?)
 
And Latin letters as the name says were invented by the Americans
 
@Abyx Do you have any idea how many languages use a Latin script?
 
I think they even have a trademark on some letters
 
@FilipRoséen-refp meh
 
11:21 AM
If there was only one language, I would have no unicode shit. That's a good enough argument for me.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I couldn't care less.
 
@Abyx So now English == Latin letters?
Taking puppy's drugs again?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, are they Chinese? Or maybe Arabic?
 
oh feck these comments are public on FB
what's wrong with these developers
 
11:22 AM
So your gripe is that you have to learn another alphabet?
FFS
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit @R.MartinhoFernandes noted, here.. have a cookie!
 
I know five alphabets.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes nope.
 
However, all the five languages I can use use Latin script.
 
> Quran told about how everything have orbits from atom to planets to galaxies,كل في فلك يسبحون
 
Xeo
11:23 AM
I know 3, in the process of learning the fourth
 
Hmm, Tengwar is not an alphabet, but whatever.
 
there we go fixed it
 
Xeo
Although, do Kanji count as an alphabet?
 
Not "alphabet"
 
@Xeo No. Those are logograms.
 
11:24 AM
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Sure it is
"alphabet" derives from the "alpha"/"beta" but it is not limited to describing Latin or Greek-derived characters
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Alphabets are for composing sounds (korean (I mean hangeul), latin, etc). AFAIK.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Aw, then I only know 3 :(
 
@Xeo Neither Hiragana nor Katakana are alphabets, btw.
They're syllabaries.
 
Xeo
Eh
 
Oh, granted, if you're talking about a logogram or syllabary
 
Xeo
11:25 AM
I've been lied to!
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Yep fair enough
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm sure I've seen those on the menu at the Crown & Anchor.
 
Thought your complaint was more strict and more stupid :)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm not a pedant <3
 
@MartinJames "Good afternoon; I would like two syllabaries and chips, and a pint of Doom Bar, please." "Certainly, sir."
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Then how did you find the Lounge?!
 
11:26 AM
my point is that you just can not use Chinese or Arabic alphabet in science or tech stuff, or anything modern. You can't write programs with those letters, you can't seriously write س + ص instead of x+y.
 
@Abyx Why the fuck not?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I came to ask for help in C++ I think. Got flamed. Stayed.
 
OMG I need to learn twenty six symbols. => EVERYONE SHOULD SPEAK ENGLISH
 
@Abyx You've never seen non-Latin characters in maths?
MOST of them are non-Latin.
 
11:26 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit "And a packet of plain for Anne":)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you can use greek letters because they look similar to latin
 
lol
So what does it help them?
They're just scribbles.
Meaningless symbols.
σ is very similar to s.
γ to g, μ to m, υ to y, etc..
 
and you know what? for some reason in programming you don't write ι(), you write iota()
 
lol
I think you don't get it
 
@Abyx Therefore everyone should speak English.
 
11:29 AM
@Abyx pahahaha
 
This has to be the single most convoluted and fact-ignorant argument in favour of forcing everybody to speak English on an Earth as seen from space social feed that I've ever seen.
 
My compiler does not like either.
 
meh. nevermid, it's just so pointless to talk about it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do you charmap?
@Abyx It's pointless you talking about it because your point is fundamentally broken.
 
11:30 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Не понимаю куда летим. На запад?
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit He uses a Greek layout IIRC
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Switch to Greek layout.
 
ic
> maureenwatson1232 Lunch time in Broadstairs UK
Great, thanks for that dear
 
Hmm. Two and a half weeks to go. I gotta get some stuff. Aparrently, I can take an extra 'small bag up to 35 x 20 x 20 cms' FOC. I gotta measure my laptop.
 
11:33 AM
> adrianronaldmasters
> fb-100004979080060: Ah! We need a translator because some are too arrogant to converse in english! OK
 
@Abyx You use Greek letters because they're more symbols and information density is considered important in math notation. You use Greek letters for historical reasons (Greek was the official language of the Roman Empire when it collapsed and the Renaissance started and was one of the two linguas francas).
You could use any other set of symbols, but since most scholars learned Latin and Greek anyway, it is natural that those two are the most common.
 
> tomalak_geretkal 1 point just now
who could that be
I'm kind of baffled by this comment
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery god so many imposters today
 
Xeo
2
A: SFINAE not working although template methods are used

Nawaz template<typename std::enable_if<!S>::type* = nullptr> int foo(int i) { return i + 1; } This is NOT function template, because there is NO template parameter for this (supposedly) function template. It is not even function. The code is simply ill-formed. Note that S is a template ...

> This is NOT function template
wut
 
upboat circlejerk
 
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upboat trianglejerk
 
you need 6, I've decided
 
> That one guy who foolishly believes that SO is about helping people, and not, you know, about massaging eachothers round, fleshy, glistering internet testicles.
> round, fleshy, glistering internet testicles.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You have to mention also that the Arabs are the ones that introduced algebra and their work was mainly based on Greek scriptures. In fact if it wasn't for the Arabs, pearls of ancient Greek literature would be lost in oblivion.
 
11:39 AM
Lounge<Round, Fleshy, GlisteringInternetTesticles>
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Here's a nice trick: reddit.com/r/programming/comments/25zjxb/…
 
@40two let's not make this a civilisation fight please
We all know Americans are the superior race.
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery no such fight.
As a Greek it's all greek to me.
 
actually there are already languages, take a look at http://www.jeemlang.com
As someone who can write/speak arabic, I think it's a matter of learning and getting accustomed to it to write code in another language.
 
I don't care.
I just like to say that Greek was the official language of the Roman Empire.
 
11:42 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes and long before the Roman empire. Greek were the lingua franca of the ancient world. The bible was written in greek.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah and look what happened to the Roman Empire. Clearly, not speaking English was to blame.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I agree speaking Greek give a tendency to bankruptcy :P
 
Thanks Obamus
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It went broke and had to be bailed out?
 
@40two No it wasn't
 
11:43 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit As Manzikert and Constantinople prove, clearly speaking Turkish is the superior way.
 
@MartinJames Right
 
> I have tried search it in the google but can't find what do I exactly want
:no:
 
> The oldest surviving complete Christian Bibles are Greek manuscripts from the 4th century. The oldest Tanakh manuscript in Hebrew and Aramaic dates to the 10th century CE,[2] but an early 4th-century Septuagint translation is found in the Codex Vaticanus.
Not proof, but gets you some of the way there
> During the solidification of the Hebrew canon (c. 3rd century BCE), the Bible began to be translated into Greek, now referred to as the Septuagint.
 
this is intense
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Speaking turkish is the superior way? how come?
 
11:46 AM
They crushed the Romans at Manzikert and then again at Constantinople. Clearly Turkish > Greek.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Turks is an artificial nation, they came from ergenekon about 10.000 people with Seljouk and as they arrived in asia minor they started gathering the children of the locals by force in order to form their elite fighting group the genishary. Clearly, and according to many turkish academics finding turkish roots is impossible for a turk.
 
I think he knows that, he's Turkish
 
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Hey, I recognize that drawing style!
 
guys what would you do if you were JS developers and someone wrote half of the project in haskell
 
11:50 AM
Anyway, does someone remember why accept rate got removed? I kinda feels it should come back.
 
@rightfold yeah, noticed that too
 
@BartekBanachewicz I wouldn't be a JS developer
 
I am fed up with my js code
I want to rewrite it to haskell
 
Genetic heritage doesn't really change their language.
 
but I'd need a business reason for that
 
11:50 AM
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Because we kept on shitting on people for having low accept rates.
 
Isn't that what accept rate is for
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Fire said guy.
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery shitting on people? No
 
> with low accept rates
 
Still no
 
11:51 AM
Meh, screw accept rate.
Crap questions are a much bigger problem.
 
I find it hard to fornicate with numbers on a server
 
user1804599
Show Q/A ratio.
 
maybe you'll have better luck though
 
@rightfold help me construct a good argument on why JS is harmful it should be in haskell
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Isn't there a correlation though
 
11:52 AM
I'll die if I have to keep writing js
 
@jalf You're no fun
 
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@BartekBanachewicz Because Haskell has a saner type system.
 
I reimplemented half of Prelude but the language is just inherently fucked up
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery So what? How does the accept rate help in any way?
 
> i create hello world module in orchard using steps given HelloWorld documentation page, then end of this module creation and making this module enable by cmd line its showing "successfully enabled" and then run a site in that making this module enable but, the output is not coming?
 
11:52 AM
it's just rotten to the core
 
@BartekBanachewicz First, you need to give all your opponents drugs, then you can just use a bad argument and it won't matter.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz already been done preludels.com
 
user1804599
With currying.
 
"Fix your accept rate" => crap questions with accepted answers
 
@rightfold can I use it in JS?
 
11:53 AM
@BartekBanachewicz What
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I used ES6 generators to create lazy functional operations and built my program on top of that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah right
 
Yes. What.
FFS dude.
 
I refused to use JS primitives because of their suckiness
 
11:54 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Not that Haskell's prelude is perfect.
 
Have you ever heard that saying that you can write Fortran in any language?
You just did that.
Congratulations.
 
Even better, I've realized that
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey No, but you could do it sanely in Haskell.
 
user1804599
Doing it sanely in JS is more difficult.
 
that's why I said what I said, it can't continue that way
 
11:55 AM
> sanely
> JS
 
either I dumb it down to lazy.js primitives
or rewrite the whole thing ground up in haskell properly
lazy.js doesn't use generators by default though
 
user1804599
Are your coworkers familiar with Haskell?
 
And generators are the closest JS gets to generic data manipulation
 
user1804599
If not, it is probably a bad idea unless you have lots of money or time.
 
I could separate my component and own it.
 
Haskell in browser? o_o
 
Then it could theoretically be implemented in Haskell leaving other parts intact
they would communicate with my code trough JS api anyway
 
WOOT! I've just Mjolnared a post
 
@VáclavZeman why not?
 
It was a strange experience, since I had forgotten about it
 
11:57 AM
@sehe hehe
 
@sehe Mjolnared?
 
@VáclavZeman gold badge insta close powers
 
@Xeo What have we done to Bartek.
 
nothing.
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz also underscorejs.
 
11:58 AM
@BartekBanachewicz How does that work? Who compiles/runs the Haskell code?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes something like giving a machine gun to a rebelious teenager
@VáclavZeman compilation is offline, compiling haskell is too costly to push it to clients' machines
@rightfold underscore < lodash < lazy.js
 
but then we're back to "lazy.js collections instead of some generic library-agnostic data"
 

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