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7:00 PM
@VáclavZeman Yes, it's called Windows VM :P
 
While we’re on the topic of games for Linux, where can I find Pac-Man?
 
user1804599
Wine.
 
xpacman and xpacman2 are horrible
 
user1804599
@minitech Google Doodle gallery.
 
@rightfold I need a truer map
 
user1804599
7:01 PM
:P
 
Anyone want to play Tetris?
 
oh goodness me I just found out that some people use space indentation
 
user1804599
That’s indeed goodness.
 
user1804599
7:04 PM
Imagine they used tabs.
 
@rightfold yes, I am
 
> Risks and challenges HAVING TO PATENT MY PROJECT. it is essential that i patent my idea in that way, nobody takes it for their own purpose without my permission.
 
Goodness Races with Tabs
@Jefffrey hah yes that works
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit, do you really indent with tabs?
 
> for this amount, i'll send you all of my diagrams and patent my idea. i'll send you the console once i get out of the poorhouse, i'll send you the ultra edition of the cybermatrix retail copy. just note: it'll take 15 years from now in order to send you the console. in the meantime, i'll collect info from backers like you.
 
7:06 PM
@minitech Of course
 
tabs ftw
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Prove it?
 
@minitech Why?
One ASCII character -> one level of indentation. Atomic. Semantic. Renderable any way you see fit.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I want to be friends
 
The only downside is that it renders poorly on the web
@minitech Why?
 
7:07 PM
Also horribly broken more often than not, but hey
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, you seem like a pretty decent person
Using tabs and all
 
@CatPlusPlus No, not really. But whatever
@minitech Why?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit See above.
 
user1804599
Shut up about tabs and spaces.
 
@minitech Why?
 
7:07 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Orange you glad I didn’t say banana again?
 
This is so getting out of control.
 
More like control characters amirite
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey No sweety I still love you <3
 
I'm going to complain to meta about the quality of the lounge since the mod came in.
 
well, if I was owner again, I'd bin his ass.
 
user1804599
7:09 PM
@minitech I’m wearing a ring made of amirite.
 
it's against the law to talk about tabs vs spaces
 
Shoot. Is there that huge a difference?
I can leave. Or change my ways.
 
Please, stay.
 
I might.
 
Butte
 
7:10 PM
Why?
 
user1804599
That’s the question.
 
@rightfold Not really, but whatever
Oh man, just found out some people use emacs
 
dem savages
 
not as bad as dem linux users
windows master race
i spel gud
 
OpenBSD for the win
 
7:13 PM
Please stay.
 
gosh suddenly had #llvm deja vu
 
did you hear VS 2013 is really good
 
fucking fantabulous cocksuckers
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yea, robot loves it
 
What if minitech was sent here as a spy?
 
7:14 PM
@DeadMG poop
 
@Jefffrey That's obvious
 
@Jefffrey We don’t need to send spies.
 
my esteemed colleague R. Martinho Fernandes has written several pieces about how pooping fantastic it is.
 
lol
Hi @ScottW! How are you?
 
shit
 
7:14 PM
yea I know that
but I wasn't asking you
 
he's busy sniffing my ass
since I owned his earlier
 
@Jefffrey Okay, I’m starting to see it
 
I suppose this dog-like behaviour is not unusual for two dogs
@ScottW hi
 
food plix
 
@minitech Well, that's good.
 
7:17 PM
meta is terrible
inb4 flags
 
seriously?
 
I'm just feeling in a shitty mood today and needed to make a cheap joke
happens to us all
 
shitty mood eh?
and what makes your mood shitty then?
 
@DeadMG :c
 
7:18 PM
been lookin at mah cv
 
oh no
we've discussed this already
and we're not about to again
 
It never really stopped, did it?
 
also the shop closed before I could purchase chocolate.
 
@minitech Why?
 
also my internet is terribly, terribly shit.
I want to play CS but can't.
it can barely even chat without lagging out.
 
7:20 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I’m learning.
 
@DeadMG get job, move away from swamp, better internet, ????, problem solved
 
@minitech Why?
 
I think it's more like, ???, get job, problem solved.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit because reasons
 
I'm so gonna be a sissy when I'll have to find a job.
 
7:22 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Do you always answer questions with questions?
 
I'm scared already.
 
@minitech Why do you ask?
 
But, whatever.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Gee, why do you think?
 
@minitech Whatever
 
neural networks anyone?
 
7:25 PM
not today thanks
 
it's not funny, i'm suffering here :P
 
reply asap
 
please help me
 
this is serious
 
7:28 PM
> FAT SOUNDS AWESOME. LET'S GET FAT.
 
user1804599
lol
 
gtg im late for a meeting on the hill
 
user1804599
 
lol
I do.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
@ScottW cooool datalist
 
@ScottW does not show anything after I press the butan
 
Worrying signs that the girl will be a javascript programmer. "Sometimes, Daddy, 5 and 5 makes 55 and sometimes it makes 10."
 
Works fine on FF.
:v
 
user1804599
7:43 PM
@sehe perl ftw
 
@ScottW true
 
"ever posted" ?
 
What should I buy for my father's birthday?
 
@sehe is that strange question?
@Jefffrey cake?
 
7:49 PM
@TonyTheLion It was a strange misread. I read "Watch this video with \@J ever posted here"
 
@sehe oh lol
later
 
@TonyTheLion Hmm. That is going to be a PITA to carry.
but thanks
 
lol, putin tried to sell gas to china and china said no
 
user1804599
8:05 PM
In Soviet Russia, gas sells YOU!!
 
lol
 
LOL!!
 
how do i bold
oh
 
yes
 
8:11 PM
Hello, Lounge!
 
I have ice cream
 
Oh, sorry. Didn't realize I stumbled into the formatting sandbox.
 
user1804599
@Rapptz lol
 
@Rapptz why?
 
8:19 PM
Why what?
 
why you write dat code?
 
testing Lua's pack expansion
 
user1804599
To demonstrate that Lua sucks.
 
Ven
lua 2 fast
 
8:20 PM
wow
 
user1804599
Q/A ratio 1/304 welcome Ven I love you.
 
@Jefffrey that was the next thing I was going to test lol
it's terrible then ._.
 
Mine's 149/3245
 
seems so
 
8:21 PM
I'm actually surprised I've asked so many questions
 
Ven
haha yeah I don't ask very much, I still get a lot of answers tho :-)
 
@rightfold Stop measuring newbies penises.
 
13x as many, by proportion
 
My Q/A ratio is 0.
 
@Rapptz cos u know eveyrthing already
@Trilarion: I'd be okay with that — Lightness Races in Orbit 3 secs ago
 
Ven
8:24 PM
rapptz: hehe, but my only question was more of a "how-to" for people coming later :)
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey but too small penis in pooper is boring :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You ask questions to yourself and answer them in order to farm rep. Remember?
 
@Jefffrey nearly forgot
 
@rightfold What do you think is lacking in Haskell's world for web dev?
 
user1804599
Decent templating tools.
 
Ven
8:27 PM
yesod is cool
 
user1804599
Large community.
 
Ven
hamlet is a nice
 
@rightfold Isn't blaze nice?
 
Ugh, this auto main() ->int is like a plague. — Lightness Races in Orbit 4 secs ago
 
user1804599
Fuck web dev anyway.
 
8:28 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Horribly formatted.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey abuses monad for do notation :<
 
@rightfold clean hierarchical do notation though.
 
@rightfold So?
 
user1804599
So it’s horrible.
 
It's combinatorial, like Parsec
 
user1804599
8:29 PM
>>= is error.
 
user1804599
You can only use >>.
 
Jan 3 at 14:24, by Jefffrey
@Griwes auto main() -> int {} is sexy and standard compliant
 
sexy like my arse
 
@rightfold You can probably formulate it with join instead of bind
 
In case you needed convincing, be aware that Alf uses this format religiously.
 
user1804599
8:30 PM
If it’s not a monad, don’t make it an instance of monad.
 
Prove it's not a monad
 
Ven
make it an instance of Free instead :D
 
user1804599
>>= does not satisfy monad laws.
 
user3010322
@LightnessRacesinOrbit @KonradRudolph does as well.
 
user1804599
It errors. :v
 
8:31 PM
54 secs ago, by Cat Plus Plus
@rightfold You can probably formulate it with join instead of bind
 
> standard complaint
FTFY
 
user3010322
People use it because it's a "uniform syntax" that can be applied everywhere, irregardless if you need to wait until after arguments are declared or not.
 
Ven
WTB auto main() {}
 
user1804599
instance Monad MarkupM where
    return _ = Empty
    {-# INLINE return #-}
    (>>) = Append
    {-# INLINE (>>) #-}
    h1 >>= f = h1 >> f
        (error "Text.Blaze.Internal.MarkupM: invalid use of monadic bind")
    {-# INLINE (>>=) #-}
 
@ThePhD "Don't make me think, please"
 
user1804599
8:32 PM
^ horrible by definition.
 
Ven
eww.
 
you're horrible
 
Ven
why's that a monad if it's not a monad ? to just use >> ?
 
@Ven do-notation
 
Ven
that's awful
 
user1804599
8:33 PM
@CatPlusPlus yeah, and it will work with all the nice functions like mapM, too.
 
Ven
don't hijack something that has one purpose just to have something that you think "reads better"
 
user1804599
Because they don’t use >>= at all. They use join.
 
I think rightfold is convincing my inner self.
 
EDSLs are a thing
 
Ven
template haskell much ?
 
8:34 PM
"Abuse" is about as silly word as "bloat"
 
Ven
and why ?
 
@rightfold What kind of syntax do you propose instead?
 
user1804599
renderTemplate("my-template.html", {'foo': bar, 'baz': qux})
 
@Fanael 17.6.1.1/2 says that library entities denoted x are to be deemed as really being called ::std::x; however, no other rules involving the standard namespace (including 17.6.1.1/1 right above it, and 17.6.4.2/1 which is the paragraph banning adding to the namespace) actually state that they are referring to ::std specifically. They all just say "the namespace std". So, technically, you could say the rule is over-restrictive by omission.
 
user1804599
Or html.myTemplate.render(foo = bar, baz = qux).
 
8:36 PM
6
A: Returning multiple values from functions in lua

Mike Corcoranyou could do something like this if you aren't sure how many values some function may return. function test() return 1, 2 end function test2() return test() end function test3() local values = {test2()} table.insert(values, 3) return unpack(values) end print(test3()) this outputs...

lol that's awful
 
user1804599
Speaking of which, I still haven’t got SBT and Twirl to work together.
 
table.insert
looks like access to some object called table
but none exists
 
it's the standard library
 
user1804599
It doesn’t exist just like print in Python doesn’t exist.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Really. This is what's wrong with software development, (not only) these days. — user3477950 8 mins ago
 
8:38 PM
 
@TonyTheLion Nice.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol?
 
@user3477950: A widespread lack of common sense? Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. — Lightness Races in Orbit 3 mins ago
as you've seen
 
8:41 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What. The. Fuck.
 
@Griwes but whatever
 
user1804599
@ScottW het is kankerwarm hier.
 
@rightfold Dit is een Engels-sprekende kamer, klootzak.
2
 
user1804599
Jammer dan.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh you
 
8:43 PM
"klootzak" is an awesome word
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I fap with left and I use mouse with right. :v
 
@Jefffrey Just realised that that guy isn't the OP
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh, lol.
 
Those random usernames are a retarded idea
 
8:45 PM
Better than "Guest" I guess.
 
@CatPlusPlus What random usernames? The ones like user12345678?
 
@rightfold no wonder you're so cranky
 
@Maxpm Yes
 
Why are they a bad idea?
 
8:46 PM
@Maxpm No the ones like "Cheers & hth. — Alf" and "Jon Skeet"
 
@Jefffrey Not really, can you tell two users apart on a glance?
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit There is a wall to my right, so no space for elbow. Hence I fap with left.
 
@CatPlusPlus Not if they're both called "Guest", no.
 
Just goddamn prompt for a username when posting
 
@rightfold dude shut the fuck up
 
8:46 PM
Hmm. Maybe.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit And if they're called user1287317412 and user1287137312? :v
 
@CatPlusPlus That was suggested. What sort of usernames do you think people would pick, then?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not user<long number> at least
There are many places that prompt for usernames and somehow it's not a problem so
 
I fail to see how having usernames like asdfghjklwiebd will be any better. I also have no idea how a name contributes to quality at all. — Doorknob Mar 20 at 14:15
@CatPlusPlus Those places don't have 3.4m users and consistently attract the lowest common denominator of "help" seekers
 
Yahoo Answers does
 
8:49 PM
Good point.
 
2
A: You should choose your Display Name when signing up

LixI assume that the site doesn't "require" you to update your username in the same way that it doesn't "require" you to change your avatar. I hardly ever register a users name - I'm more focused on what they are saying. The real question here, is how would requiring users to enter something in a ...

@CatPlusPlus Yeah, and it's totally full of shit. You want that?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Non sequitur
 
It's not full of shit because they prompt for a username.
 
0
Q: std::map<,>.emplace() producing error

user3658259I'm using a map to store data parsed from a text file. The actual code is pretty hefty, although I can post it if this isn't enough, but here's the outline of anything that contributes to the line that's causing the problem: #include <stdio.h> #include <iostream> #include <fstream> #include <SDL.h>

lol
 
Besides SO is already full of shit anyway iam :v
 
user1804599
8:50 PM
string keyS(string(key)); lol
 
my reaction too
 
@CatPlusPlus Yesn sequitur
@Jefffrey How do you know?
 
How do you know it is?
It's your argument
 
The real not sequitur is in your argument, Cat, because people typically sign up to Yahoo for other reasons long before finding their way onto Answers to get help
so there's no equivalence
@CatPlusPlus because I am Lightness, bitch
 
[citation needed], and also not really?? My argument was that requiring user names doesn't automatically lead into randomly mashed usernames, as evidenced by almost entire internet
 
@TonyTheLion This user's number username is offending me because of 666 please ban
 
hahahahah :)
 
I'm so gonna get banned for this closure.
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion Gotta love the duping.
 
@rightfold :)
 
8:59 PM
wtb interval tree implementation for Python
 
@CatPlusPlus Okay, and that's fine. But nobody said it did. The original problem was about would it automatically lead to that here? And it would. People think this is a help site. So your strawman argument can go fuck itself, frankly.
 

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