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00:06
Still IMO, it's not that hard to invent. But it is nice git programmers put the effort to make it intelligent and user-friendly.
Even if you deleted N folders and created M new ones, they are just nodes. And you do know what the contents were and are. If of some significant portion of the contents are the same you can probably assume it is the same one and diff it. They don't have to be on the same level. Unless you mess up structure very badly it's not that hard IMO.
git doesn't track folders
It's all content-based
00:25
g'night, kids
01:13
WikiBlame so bad.
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01:34
ARRRRRRGH
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std::remove_all_extents doesn't work on std::array ;~~~~~~~~~;
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WHY
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Oh well.
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@Xeo you said something about recursing on T[] to remove all extents. What about for a class like std::array? How do you backtrack the extents there?
how does opacity work?
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01:37
Come again?
like on a computer display... the colors make sense, but how does something become see-through?
@ThePhD thats what she said
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It works exactly like a painting algorithm.
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@Borgleader ba-dum-tss!
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@Borgleader What've you been working on these days anyhow?
01:41
been playing a bit with TBB
and squirrel
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Kinky!
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Double kinky!
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I saw Squirrel, how is it as a scripting language?
i barely started, i integrated it into a c++ app, im gonna start scripting next
the documentation isnt awesome though
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How is the FFI / API for it?
01:47
reminded me of lua's
from what i saw of it anyway
01:58
@ThePhD :|
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@Rapptz Don't
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Don't you look at me like that. D:
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@Borgleader Oh god. IT's a stack-based nightmare. D:
isnt lua like that too?
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Yes. And Lua is the Queen of Stack-Based Nightmares
02:03
I wish I had xclip on Windows.
@ThePhD maybe if i get bored enough ill try a sol like thing around squirrel, i'd call it nutella ;)
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@Borgleader As horrible with your puns as ever.
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They should call you the Punisher.
Dude, the language is called Squirrel, the code files have .nut extension
Nutella isn't a pun, it fits the theme xD
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Don't try to use this program's fixation for nuts to disguise your deep love of puns.
02:06
Windows C API so bad compared to C#.
imo it's more verbose than bad
@Rapptz Tell me about it... I had to deal with WMI in C. It's litterally 10-15 more code to get the same information T_T
imma make my own xclip
should be a couple LOC
I think
I doubt it'd be hard
you can even do it in C#, most likely
Yeah you can.
But I don't feel like opening Visual Studio
02:09
then compile it using mcs!
then write it in ST and call CL yourself ;)
it's called a text editor :v
02:52
@Crow By the power of MATH
@Crow computer screen pixels are always full opacity at hardware. SOMEWHERE in the graphics driver there has to be a "back" color with full opacity. Then when the graphics wants to put a half-transparent pixel over that it, it merges the color that was already there with the "transparent" one.
@ThePhD can't you just recurse though std::array<T,N>::value_type?
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@melak47 Yeh, I figured it out.
:)
so, is lounge chat a thing again? :v
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I've got no problem devoting my time to it.
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03:03
Now that school is over.
what language did you guys arrive at :p
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C# still?
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I have absolutely no python skills whatsoever.
I touched a scons build file once.
Python maybe or maybe not
killsixbilliondemons.com is a p good comic
03:08
My new helmet is so pretty
@Borgleader getting your hair done? :p
I feel like frankensteins lab rat =/
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That's probably the best you can feel on a spectrum of things you can feel like with that kind of headgear.
@MooingDuck Most graphics hardware has a blending stage that handles opacity in the hardware. It's normally near the end of the pipeline, so you can do all the other processing to generate pixels of various colors, then blend them together just before they're sent to the screen.
03:41
λ echo test | xclip
λ xclip -o
test
neato.
04:02
clipboard read/write util?
yeah
its funny because im 12
The method add(LatLng) in the type ArrayList<LatLng> is not applicable for the arguments (ArrayList<LatLng>)
why java, why??
sounds like you can't add an ArrayList<LatLng> as an element to a ArrayList<LatLng>....big surprise
This is the awesome Silvia. She's come to @makerfaire and taken a photo with me holding last year's pic for 5 years! http://t.co/feWHrl6iPM
this is pretty cool
04:15
adding an arraylist at the back of another arraylist
addAll dummy
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@Borgleader Pretty Sweet. :O
Hey,everybody
Any Qt developers out here tonight?
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Nope.
04:33
@ThePhD Adam Savage is awesome
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His name is Adam Savage.
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If he wasn't awesome, he'd just be a disappointment.
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04:46
Welp.
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Still can't get Qt to work.
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So back to VS for me. ._.
I'm impressed at your noobness.
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... Oh.
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It's using MinGW 4.8.2
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04:49
Gee. How nice of it.
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05:02
Okay.
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Uh.
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It's.... there?
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@Rapptz You can cheat the system by, after saving your Project, just renaming the filename to {whatever}++.pro
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It'll pick up the ++ no problem, and perform none of its retarded validation.
I don't use Qt Creator for non-Qt projects anymore :v
05:08
Or you can just not use ++ in project name
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Well, I'd like to have an IDE of sorts.
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With code completion and all that jazz.
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Also I have to configure makefiles for this project, since it seems Qt doesn't integrate well with Ninja...?
I've been programming without code completion for so long that I don't really need it.
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Well, you're a madman. :D
05:09
Those are two different things bud.
Nah. I'm just not retarded.
:v
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I know they're two different things. I'm saying I see the option for makefile based kinds of builds, but I don't see the option for ninja based kind of builds.
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It's clearly trying to make some kind of makefile-ing happen...
That is because that's what QMake generates
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Bummer.
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I have no desire to use makefiles. Maybe I should try Eclipse instead.
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05:11
It's been 3 years. MAybe their code completion and refactoring is all good?
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Though, now I'm curious. What do all of you use to develop C++ ?
Almost everyone here uses Vim
rightfold uses emacs, I use ST3. You, puppy and Abyx use VS. Don't know about Jerry.
rest is vim.
I think anyway.
I use MSVC. Fuck vim. :)
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You don't count
@Rapptz I never write code, so...well, okay, maybe once in a while. Mostly VS.
05:14
@Rapptz lol?
@Mysticial :v
@Rapptz He not only counts, but he doesn't stop 'til 12 trillion...
Stacked and Mark Garcia use Qt Creator.
I think those are all I know.
I do also use Eclipse now and again. I have a couple of FPGA development kits that use it pretty nearly exclusively (but I'd rather use almost anything else, given a choice).
how to de-flea/rid ticks from a chicken - put it in a bag full of diatomaceous earth, then just shake, shake, shake shake shake :p
bag - tick, powder - tick, chickens - tick!
05:27
@ThePhD I heard Eclipse has decent refactoring support. Haven't tried it myself though.
Eclipse is absolute shit
6
It's shit or the shit?
It's shit. Unequivocally.
Oh, so it's crap.
It's the crap.
05:33
> Does it make a difference? The compiler I use can't affect my code somehow can it?
lol
@Rapptz Who said that?
an anon
Well, I mean, in a perfect world, it shouldn't...
@StackedCrooked Do not listen to the Cat. Eclipse is decent and usable.
@FredOverflow :( Perl is really not that bad.
In all fairness, I haven't had the most unbiased experience with Eclipse. The first year I had to use it, it was an ancient version that crashed if you tried to rename, delete or move a file. The second year I had to use it, they upgraded...to a version that was still obsolete. The third year I had to use it, they actually downgraded - apparently because they were scared of the "new" feature of being able to export runnable .jar files.
05:45
Of all the C++ IDEs I've used for MinGW/GCC I think Qt Creator is the best one
06:12
Morning.
@Maxpm Who are "they"?
school probably
Yeah. School.
Huh, why would they be scared of exporting .jar files?
I guess because it made it easier for the computer science students to distribute their code to other people for them to run on their (school-issued) computers. This is just conjecture, though.
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@Maxpm lol having to use a specific editor.
GNU license + "Copyright X Y [email protected]"
Are you okay?
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@Jefffrey What about it?
I feel like I'm missing the punchline :v
06:23
Hmm. Doesn't "Copyright" mean exactly the opposite of any "open source" licenses?
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Uh, no?
No?
No.
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Public domain is the opposite of copyright.
> Copyright is a legal concept, enacted by most governments, that grants the creator of an original work exclusive rights to its use and distribution, usually for a limited time, with the intention of enabling the creator of intellectual wealth (e.g. the photographer of a photograph or the author of a book) to receive compensation for their work and be able to financially support themselves.
Yeah, and you then can license things to other people
I marked the keyword
It's all part of the same legal framework
Copyright law doesn't mandate that you keep your code to yourself; it just allows you to if you want.
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I AM NOT LIABLE FOR ANYTHING.
> In most jurisdictions the copyright holder must bear the cost of enforcing copyright. This will usually involve engaging legal representation, administrative and or court costs. These costs, including time, should be taken into consideration when evaluating the benefits of enforcing copyright.
06:26
Has anyone made the "IT'S NOT MY FAULT" license yet?
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I use BSD license for everything.
@Jefffrey That just means that if I break your rules (your software license), you're the one who has to sue me. The government won't actively seek out copyright infringers.
@Jefffrey Your point?
@Rapptz My point when I posted the message was to assert that "Copyright" meant that you had to pay. Then I read few paragraphs below...
@rightfold Seems like I've been implicitly using BSD without even knowing it. lol
06:29
@Mysticial How?
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Some tool generates license file and defaults to BSD. :v
@Maxpm My y-cruncher program's license is almost identical to BSD.
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@Mysticial Didn’t know it was FOSS.
FOSS?
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Free and open-source software (FOSS) is computer software that can be classified as both free software and open source software. That is, anyone is freely licensed to use, copy, study, and change the software in any way, and the source code is openly shared so that people are encouraged to voluntarily improve the design of the software. This is in contrast to proprietary software, where the software is under restrictive copyright and the source code is usually hidden from the users. The benefits of using FOSS include decreasing software costs, increasing security and stability (especi...
06:31
Like floss, but louder.
@rightfold y-cruncher isn't open source.
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Then it’s silly to mention source code in your license. :v
@Mysticial Then what are you licensing? Just usage of the binaries?
@Mysticial It's not even close
@CatPlusPlus Well then nevermind. :)
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06:32
> Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
He's talking about his custom license, he didn't use BSD verbatim jesus
@CatPlusPlus Mine was pulled from some other free software and modified slightly.
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I know, jesus.
But yeah the only similarity is the standard as is clause that's in every license ever
Jesus has nothing whatsoever to do with any of your licensing issues.
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06:34
If you don’t add that clause, are you liable for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, exemplary, or consequential damages (including, but not limited to, procurement of substitute goods or services; loss of use, data, or profits; or business interruption) however caused and on any theory of liability, whether in contract, strict liability, or tort (including negligence or otherwise) arising in any way out of the use of this software, even if advised of the possibility of such damage?
also, morning
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@TonyTheLion Maybe Cat’s last name is Jesus.
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Piotr Jesus.
@rightfold ah, maybe you're on to something here? :P
I need to get to work and finish up the server thingy I've been working on, before I fall asleep
Yes I'm jesus and I turn water into vodka
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06:37
jesus_cast<vodka_t>(water);
Meh _t
@rightfold IANAL, but I think the law says that certain things have a warranty by default. That's what a limited warranty is: it's an agreement to limit the warranty that the consumer would otherwise be awarded implicitly. So, yes - if you don't add that clause, there's a chance you could be held liable.
Interesting how I can't but read it as "meth".
There's no "the law"
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Time to get to the bathroom.
06:39
@CatPlusPlus I am The Law.
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Btw Cat how long did it take to set up Puppet for first time?
Uh 17 hours give or take
We have an xkcd bot?
06:42
It's an RSS feed bot.
What other feeds is it subscribed to?
Fairy tales are only good enough to fool children under 8 and idiots - Cinderella & golden slipper - do you know how dense gold is? 19.32 g/cubic centimeters. Imagine Cinderella has to dance with 3kg shoe on each feet! Prince will definitely be impressed by that - her clumsiness!
It's in room info page thing go read it
@chmod711telkitty did you take your meds?
06:47
@melak47 the only medicine I take @ moment is this:
And it is because I jog too much ...
Don't take meds. It's all a conspiracy.
Take drugs instead.
Take chemtrails.
@chmod711telkitty It's illegal to sell those here because it's not proven to work.
06:57
Good.
And once you slap a label to it it becomes a possible placebo effect.
Which would accomplish the goal anyway.
Not for this. Well, the pain relief part probably but not the reducing part.
07:09
Oh well, since there is no other better method, I will just try this one out ...
Jogging on grassed land is great for the joints
Have not had knee pain for nearly a year
Xeo
Xeo
@ThePhD <std::array<T, N>> : ...<T>?
otitis worsening
hlp
Xeo
Xeo
Whee, Transistor available tomorrow
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07:27
Man.
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It's so hot at work I took off my shirt.
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Time to get that airco out of the barn.
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@CatPlusPlus How many servers?
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I have three servers to manage. :P
Xeo
Xeo
07:33
So @Lightness, the result doesn't look that bad now, does it :P
@Xeo Pretty bad
Can we take it down now?
:v 41 people didn't star individually.
Hmm?
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Q: Wrong assignment effect with std::vector<const char *>?

xunzhangThe buggy code is below: #include <vector> #include <string> #include <iostream> void foo(const std::vector<double> & in) { std::vector<const char *> v(5); size_t indx = 0; for(auto & tmp : in) { v[indx] = std::to_string(tmp).c_str(); std::cout << "right: "<< v[indx] << std::endl;...

oh my
> std::to_string(tmp).c_str();
imma try to go to bed early today
I'm shattered
me too
We don't need many useless room owners, we need 4-5 useful ones - not to imply current room owners usefulness
true
I reckon you should have just a few owners and save the other spots for when you realise you need awesome people like me to step in ;)
GAAAAH I hate our IT support!!!!
haha that puppy message that got flagged got him suspended
#drama
it was "d0 y0u w4n+ +0 5uck my d!&*"
shit i'm gonna be late
07:56
In a way I like Deadmg as the room owner - he's very quick in moving useless crap from this room to somewhere else
Jerry is too lenient, sbi is never here. Mysticial is the most useless room owner, full stop
don't think Cat's ever done room ownery things, not that it's practically ever been really necessary for anyone to do anything
so i'm certainly not intending to criticise him by saying that
Cat++ & robot are decent too, but they don't act as nearly as fast as deadmg
He acts fast on stuff that doesn't need acting on
I'd have been a Catlike owner
#BBL
That's why you need Jerry - to balance things out ...
sehe is a sh!tty room owner too
yeah Jerry's good
#REALLYBBLNOW
08:05
@chmod711telkitty don't worry, be it new or old you get binned the same
@chmod711telkitty sbi is not an owner
also lol it's 10am and I am already correcting your BS
I wonder why some people like to sort out other peoples' problems when they can not even sort out problems of their own ...
I don't doubt you wonder about many things.
still in love with Cicada? Rofl
@chmod711telkitty isn't everyone?
08:11
how can I save another file in Coliru
there was a way to do that
@jalf is it? ;)
@StackedCrooked I am going to turn my assignment in an hour on Coliru, don't turn it down! :)
DDos attack
@rightfold Currently only Vagrant VM, but adding new servers is not a lot of work if you have the basics down
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Cool.
08:26
Depends on how you want to approach things, too, I went with pure Hiera-based config, so I had to write some scaffolding to declare type instances there
If you go with node inheritance it might be slightly less work? Dunno really, I was p much learning the system there anyway
I want to explore deploying servers as those virtual appliances
The idea of having, say, a web server, a static server and a log server as separate tiny vms sounds tempting
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Meh, PE doesn't support Gentoo.
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I think I'll set up a Debian VM on our Gentoo VM then. :v
08:27
(Docker isn't production-ready yet)
OpenShift ships with Ubuntu I think
> Announcing xPaaS: Middleware on OpenShit
thank your keming.
That's not kerning, that's you being blind
shh.
wut there's Free and there's Bronze which starts at ... $0?
I have bit of a pickle right now, dunno if writing this server in Python/Twisted will work when the target platform will have like 64MB RAM
(haha getit pickle)
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@CatPlusPlus lol
08:30
I might deploy another hardware server in the future
maybe I should start renting my Overminds :P
I think OpenShift pretty much requires 2 boxes anyway
The prices are for hosted version btw, the software itself is OSS
you could have basic plan and that would be for one beer / week.
@CatPlusPlus typically products starting with "open" are OSS.
Altough I'm looking at you OpenVPN.
@CatPlusPlus target platform for what?
@melak47 A controller thingy
@ThePhD Does it have to?
08:32
Maybe I should go with Erlang
I shudder to think that I'll have to code user-friendly updates for this shit probably
Fucking embedded noise
I mean, when you're switching from VS, you shouldn't notice a difference if you switch to a talking brick instead.
Eclipse is not a brick
Bricks are useful
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Excuse me I set plenty of funny and/or informative topics
But use termite treated timber ...
08:37
Binning is a largely useless thing, so cba most of the time
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@CatPlusPlus yes!
developing IDEs should be easier
> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is the first enterprise grade Linux distribution to ship with Docker natively packaged, continuously tested, and instantly installable
hey that's interesting
Oh hey they released 1.0 RC
I started writing a console-based GUI
might be funny to take it another reasonable spin again
and create a funny console-based IDE
Don't, it's a pain and it's not worth it
Besides you won't beat Turbo Pascal 7.0 so why even try
08:40
that was a thing
I mean portability of console based stuff is much easier
and with unicode terminals everywhere and fonts with ligatures and whatnot...
Not really
Windows
Your console thing is useless on Windows
Whatever it is
well you could package a console wrapper with the build
And ahahaha Unicode no don't even hope
Use GTK or Qt and there's no problem with porting anything to anything
eh, I guess I'll go back to writing compilers for Visual Scripts
@CatPlusPlus I'm not going to use GTK
GTK3 is decent
08:43
I still suffer on the inside
I just wanted to install a text editor
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gtkmm is nice.
@CatPlusPlus also Qt builds to javascript from what I heard
also wut
my comment pointing a guy to google was removed
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I want syntactic sugar for Backbone.js get and set.
it had 3 upvotes
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I could write getters and setters manually but beh.
08:45
you just took a comment with 3 upvotes down because it told the OP to fucking use Google.
god what the hell is going on with this "let's be nice" policy
also on the question that I myself closed and sits at -7
pff
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I think I could write a library that generates getters and setters for me.
@rightfold better write a library that generates such a library
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A programming language that has built-in support for Backbone.
Backbone is so horrible :(
God, who the fuck thought that was a good idea :(
</rant-on-time-wasted>
> All in all Dbus is a piece of bloatware:
> dbus-daemon is 300KB and libdbus-1.so is 240KB.
FIVE HUNDRED KILOBYTES
programmers.txt
08:53
Anyone here ever had to work with FUSE?
morning
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u.u
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So Eclipse is absolute shit. I guess I won't use it.
@Maxpm I have been working with Eclipse just fine the last couple of years. What version did you use exactly?
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Still trying to set up QtCreator to.... do... regular stuff.

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