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9:00 PM
There is literally zero evidence that it would
How is that a strawman jesus christ
 
Can't you see these usernames are tearing us apart?
 
This is obviously not a duplicate of a list of books. Stupid people. — Lightness Races in Orbit 10 secs ago
 
:lol:
 
I reopened this question. Please don't mark stuff as dupes of the book list
 
@CatPlusPlus Someone says having that feature here, in particular would be bad. You say "it won't be" because it works elsewhere? Well, great! Nobody's talking about elsewhere though.
 
9:01 PM
Just delete and forget about it
 
@Praetorian Beat me to it.
 
and where exactly do you see StackP defined in OPs code? — Tony The Lion 1 min ago
 
@TonyTheLion Naughty.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Cause I told OP to learn C++?
Yea true, C++ is too terrible. No one should be exposed to it.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Ugh, yes, analogy to existing things is never useful, esp that the system is not implemented here so there's no local evidence
gg
 
9:02 PM
@TonyTheLion No, because you tried to close and tried to recruit people to close a question as a duplicate of a completely different question. Don't be a twat.
@CatPlusPlus Exactly. So, all we can do is theorise. Meaning your references to some other websites is totally pointless.
 
It will happen here because IT OBVIOUSLY WILL, we can tell the future, even though it NEVER DID
 
@CatPlusPlus Doesn't mean it wouldn't.
 
No, it doesn't. But it does make it unlikely
 
What would you guys call a map-like function that does it in-place?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit "Don't be a twat." Says the hypocritical bastard that was complaining about other people being rude a few days ago.
 
user1804599
9:04 PM
@Rapptz map!
 
@Rapptz ugh
 
I didn't mark that question as a dupe of the book question either
 
atm I have map which returns a new table and apply which... doesn't i.e. it just modifies the existing one.
 
@TonyTheLion hahaha
Complaining about people being rude === being a twat === can't tell people not to be a twat
 
but I feel like the naming is weird
 
9:05 PM
lion logic
 
user1804599
@Rapptz map_in_place
 
@CatPlusPlus No, it leaves us with zero evidence either way. Which is what you were just saying yourself.
@Rapptz seems alright
 
user1804599
apply would apply the function to the collection, not to all elements. :V
 
transform is different?
 
I guess I could call it transform.
 
9:07 PM
fuck it must be like 35º in here
 
but that's weird too. I think only C++ uses that term.
 
mutate
 
@Rapptz I think not
 
user1804599
map! or map_in_place.
 
In mathematics, a transformation could be any function mapping a set X to another set or to itself. However, often the set X has some additional algebraic or geometric structure and the term "transformation" refers to a function from X to itself that preserves this structure. Examples include linear transformations and affine transformations, rotations, reflections and translations. These can be carried out in Euclidean space, particularly in dimensions 2 and 3. They are also operations that can be performed using linear algebra, and described explicitly using matrices. Translation A...
 
9:08 PM
In-place maps are uncommon
 
try the entirety of mathematics
but, sure, only C++
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus so the name should be as clear as possible.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ...? Are we thinking of something else?
 
@Rapptz possibly.
If so, I forgive you for your mistake.
 
I never will
 
user3010322
9:11 PM
Never forgive.
 
user3010322
Never forget.
 
user3010322
Always hate Convolution.
 
user3010322
Fuck me, why is convolution so hard.
 
Xeo
@Rapptz Which language? If it has namespaces, map and inplace::map :D
 
OMG
did you hear???
 
user3010322
9:12 PM
@Xeo Kinky.
 
@Xeo Lua.
 
Xeo
k, I have no idea about Lua
 
oooooooooooooooooooooomg guys
 
inplace keyword argument
 
user1804599
9:13 PM
@Xeo in_place = { map = … } :v
 
Oh wait Lua doesn't have that either :v
 
there's this guy trying to convince me that Firefox is better than Opera
 
You could use a string but that's ugly lol
 
stuff:map("inplace", f)
 
9:15 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I smell micropayments
Also game budget 20% game 80% trailer
:v
 
user3010322
@EtiennedeMartel I saw that "3m 17s" timer.
 
@CatPlusPlus Of course there's micropayments. It's the fastest way to make you feel like you invested something, thus converting you.
 
user3010322
Smells like you're going to have to pay to make that go faster.
 
Hi,
do you know what does "process exited due to signal 8 exit code: 2048"
mean?
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
Xeo
9:17 PM
Your program went off to play 2048
 
user1804599
It means that the process exited because someone sent it signal 8.
 
user3010322
"Would you like to hatch the egg now? Use the Chrono Booster, which you can get at the store!"
 
Ok, but what does signal 8 mean?
 
user1804599
Google it.
 
user3010322
9:17 PM
Look it up.
 
user3010322
You have fingers and google.
 
^^
Maybe he don't have fingers?
 
user1804599
Or check signal man page.
 
user3010322
Toes.
 
hahaha
 
user1804599
9:18 PM
Toe fetish.
 
@Ty221 first result on google m8
 
Use your MIND
 
Xeo
@ThePhD Fun fact: those are called 'foot fingers' in Japanese
'ashi no yubi'
As I just learned
 
Why do pointers point?
oh wait... no dumb questions
 
user1804599
Digit digits.
 
user3010322
9:19 PM
Reminds me of that one time when someone would look at my dog and call their paws "foot paws" and "fore paws"
 
user3010322
and "hand paws"
 
@Xeo In French, most people say "orteils", but sometimes you'll hear "doigts de pied". No points if you guess what the second one means.
 
user3010322
Never made fucking sense.
 
user3010322
It's just paws. <_>
 
I always zero-index my animals' paws
 
9:19 PM
Ok, now I've got - SIGFPE - thank you.
 
Probably never understood the word 'paw' then
 
user1804599
Lightning!
 
Where?
 
user1804599
Schijf.
 
oh I see
 
user1804599
9:21 PM
Well, you can see it from Schijf.
 
user1804599
If it were actually in Schijf I would be dead.
 
39 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
@rightfold Dit is een Engels-sprekende kamer, klootzak.
 
Xeo
... neck: 'kubi' - wrist: 'tekubi' - ankle: 'ashikubi'. guess what 'hand' and 'foot' mean
 
How does a computer know when a byte is a character and when it is a number? For example how does it know when 11111111 is character ÿ (represented by the ASCII table) and when does it know that it is number -1 (when it is a signed number)?
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey So I cannot talk about Amsterdam either, because that’s a Dutch name.
 
Xeo
9:22 PM
it doesn't
 
^
 
user1804599
@SineLaboreNihil You have to store the type somewhere.
 
user1804599
Or use operations that assume those types.
 
user1804599
@SineLaboreNihil Just like you cannot know the length of an array if you don’t store or assume it.
 
@rightfold Ok, and how is the type represented? I would imagine it is represented by more than one byte otherwise there would be confusion?
 
9:23 PM
can this code by simplified: pastebin.com/2iwDhsYW?
 
Xeo
geez, what's with this flood
 
user1804599
It’s rotten.
 
user1804599
Deal with it.
 
user1804599
Oh, flood not food.
 
Xeo
@mrpyo drop the inner ifs?
they buy you nothing
 
9:24 PM
@mrpyo changeDirection = (direction * d > 0 && changeDirection);
or something
 
@rightfold So ok, when I tell the computer im using a certain type, like a character, I am basically sending it bytes that tell it that what comes next is a character and probably another set of bytes that tell it that the character ended so don't interpret anything else as a character?
 
user1804599
What is it with all these weirdos joining.
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey changeDirection = direction * d <= 0
 
@DeadMG bin please
Oh wait.
 
9:26 PM
He can't
 
Sorry.
@Xeo yes that
 
is it the same?
 
depends on what is the initial value of changeDirection
also use your brain FFS
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey the initial value doesn't matter
 
yeah
these are signals that it's time to sleep
or that I'm dumb
 
Xeo
9:28 PM
obviously the latter
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey SIGALRM
 
Xeo
hm, I should probably sleep too
 
When I tell the computer I'm using a certain type, like a character, I am basically sending it bytes that tell it that what comes next is a character and probably another set of bytes that tell it that the character ended so don't interpret anything else as a character? Is this the right interpretation?
 
user1804599
Ich am going to take a douche eerst.
 
Xeo
you don't send the computer anything
@rightfold You're taking a douche first?
 
9:30 PM
I was going to answer that, but then I realized I would have probably said something terribly wrong again.
 
user1804599
EIN(E(R/N)) DUSCHE
 
When you declare a type for a variable you are telling the computer you are going to use a float or a char, so you must be sending that information somewhere, otherwise how does it know how to interpret the same sequence of bits?
 
Xeo
it does different operations that interpret them differently
 
@Xeo I guess you are right
 
Must.. resist.. temptation.
 
user1804599
9:31 PM
Within Temptation
 
thx
 
Xeo
you're missing something fundamental about how compilation and execution / interpretion works
 
user1804599
A brain.
 
Xeo
try reading up on it, I don't have time / will to teach that
 
Basically I am trying to understand when a computer gets the sequence of 8 bits how does it know how to interpret it... if it's going to be an ascii character or a number value.
 
user1804599
9:33 PM
A colleague wants to learn C++.
 
42 secs ago, by Xeo
try reading up on it, I don't have time / will to teach that
 
user1804599
Accelerated C++ still any good? Because C++11 and stuff. :v
 
Xeo
a computer doesn't just 'get a sequence of 8 bits'
 
@rightfold I prefer Learn you a Haskell.
 
I tried looking that up online but found little info that would explain it clearly to me that's why I am looking for help here.
 
Xeo
9:33 PM
@rightfold Try the new C++ Primer, that was updated IIRC
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey You cannot learn C++ from that, you fool.
 
I can't fool you, you smarty.
 
Probably fake.
Also WTF IS WRONG WITH THAT PURPLE
it's giving me hallucinations
 
@Jefffrey The purple is normal.
> we don't do that kind of thing
lol
 
9:36 PM
@Jefffrey Huh? It's black on white. You're going mad.
 
Nice try Tony.
This is so cool. If I watch it from above it is purple. If I watch it from below it's blue.
Magic.
 
you need a doctor?
 
Do you ever think this is just a dream?
 
> Next, camelCase is easier to type. For each word-separator, you have only to press "shift" and the next letter, rather than shift, minus, release shift, next letter. Especially given the inconvenient placement of minus on US keyboards, this has probably saved me enough time that it's added up to at least six minutes in the last ten years. (Or, a little under one-tenth the time it took to write this article.)
 
And then suddenly ninja obama slaps you in the face.
 
9:41 PM
SIX MINUTES
 
@CatPlusPlus source?
 
It's for the same reason you can't change the address that you currently live at. Sure, you can tear down the house and build a new one, but you can't change the number that has been assigned to that plot of land. — Mysticial 19 secs ago
 
It is a building analogy
 
9:44 PM
> For starters, camelCase harkens back to a long and venerable tradition. Did you camelCase haters-because-of-Java ever ask yourselves why Java uses that convention? It's because it's copied from the very first object-oriented language. If you like consistency, then Twisted is consistent with 34 years of object-oriented programming history.
 
starred before bin
 
lol nice logic.
 
it's a png :ppp
 
lol
 
it's an optical illusion
which only works on crazy people
 
9:45 PM
I wish PascalCase were the convention. It's prettier. :(
 
I like it more than camelCase
but I like snake_case too
 
Heh, Alf's nudge did the trick. The <I>first</I> error is not learning the language I am working in. I have done most of my OO coding in Java, where the above wouldn't be a problem. — Stevens Miller 3 mins ago
Java is a very nice language.
 
@Rapptz It's called snake_case? What's the etymology of that?
 
no rEVERSEpASCALcASE?
 
@Maxpm A snake is usually represented like this: \/\/\ etc
 
9:48 PM
best explanation ever
 
at least that's what I think anyway
I know, I have amazing artistic ability in text :v
 
@Rapptz looks like jsoncase to me :p
 
I dunno why I keep laughing at everything.
 
escape all the slashes!
 
You're probably high
 
9:48 PM
I'm beginning to think my mum drugged me.
 
Contact high from DeadMG
 
wat
Oh, that's the joke.
 
I defeated a giant rock today
 
Congrats
 
user1804599
I defeated a chest today.
 
user1804599
9:54 PM
In Candy Box.
 
it was funny when I used a skill that blew the rock back a few spaces
and when I was done the rock came back to its place
 
nothing like a bit of karaoke
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 1b
 
user1804599
9:57 PM
> Your Dashboard is literally on fire.
 
user1804599
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit When that guy learns Daft Punk is French... oh oh!
It's gonna be one hell of an existantial crisis.
 

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