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8:00 PM
Never not neckbeard
 
No toboggan in restaurants, this is law. #SochiProblems #Sochi2014 http://t.co/0nAdGxqHM0
 
@MartinJames Oops--thinking back, I'm pretty sure it's a 68881.
 
I guess soup is banned on the slopes, too.
 
user1804599
I like soup.
 
user1804599
8:03 PM
What is the intersection of no sets? The empty set? Or is it not defined?
 
@rightfold An empty set?
 
Ell
empty set
 
user1804599
Ah, I see.
 
user1804599
Then this library is borked.
 
Ell
wait a minute
do you mean just an intersection operator on its own?
 
8:04 PM
Can't be an empty set.
 
@rightfold Uh, what
 
The empty set is the absorbing element of set intersection.
 
@JerryCoffin Heh - those old Motorola chips in DIL packages went on forever. 8086 was bad enough - I sat on one once. 40 little holes in my ass. It was bloody painful.
 
It's the universe.
 
user1804599
I have a function that takes a list of sets and returns the intersection of those sets, like a fold.
 
8:05 PM
@MartinJames wat
 
user1804599
But what should be the result when the list is empty?
 
The universal set is the identity element of set intersection.
 
@Jefffrey 68000 had 64 pins - would have been worse.
 
user1804599
Is it the set of everything?
 
There are no elements inside any of the sets inside the emptyset.
 
8:06 PM
Just make it partial, it's not a useful thing to have
 
@rightfold Yes.
 
@BartekBanachewicz, are you high tall?
 
user1804599
Then I think I will just return everything in the index when no operands are given to AND queries.
 
user1804599
Prelude> and []
True
 
That's not set intersection.
(In ZFC there is no universal set, btw)
 
user1804599
8:08 PM
I know, but the principle is the same.
 
user1804599
You just have intersect instead of && in the fold.
 
@MartinJames Yikes. That would suck. The worst I've done was poked a few holes in my fingers pulling them out of sockets.
@Jefffrey yes no.
 
you naughty boy
 
@JerryCoffin Some of the pins bent over. Pulling it out was... 'unpleasant'.
 
8:11 PM
@Jefffrey yep
@rightfold wat
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've seen pictures of you, and you look guuuud.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes post pics then
 
@MartinJames Oh man. Talk about adding insult injury to injury!
 
@BartekBanachewicz It really surprises me that people find this surprising :(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Would certainly be hard to miss if you'd been there.
 
8:13 PM
DIL chips are like inverse toast - they always land pins-up.
 
It's a massive cock.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes nah, I was just watting at the weirdness. I guess the result is reasonable
 
It still surprises me that people find it weird.
 
@MartinJames Unfortunately true (though I always thought they were called DIP chips).
 
Ell
I thought dip too
 
user3010322
8:14 PM
Well.
 
user1804599
Woo set map keys(%$_), values $self->{_exact}.
 
user3010322
Now I'm done with floating point and I'm in my Japanese Section class.
 
user3010322
We're wanking over The Tale of Genji.
 
> One man had gotten in touch with them, offering to buy the wooden cock and take it off their hands at his own expense.

"He has a collection of cocks," Arseny told me. "This will be the pearl."
hahahhaaha
 
.. hilarious...
 
8:17 PM
@ThePhD Otherwise know as going from "high point to Hai! point."
 
BTW
I have an idea for a web app that can earn money
 
user3010322
Share it with us all so it can be indexed by google.
 
Ell
@r.martinho why wouldn't someone find it surprising? wouldn't you be surprised if somebody strapped a giant dick to your car? o.O
 
Reading comprehension level nominal
 
Ell
meh I think I done goofed
 
8:22 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Tell us, so I can steal it :P
 
@Borgleader nah. I can tell you if you want to do it with me :D
 
What would a web app spend the money it earned on?
@BartekBanachewicz Context removed for the greater good.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes More servers
 
Star all the things
 
Fact: web apps are like vampires, only they crave servers
 
8:24 PM
My stars!
 
TIL some german, Blutengel, Blood Angel :P
 
Oh cmon, the robot's comment was funny! :(
 
user3010322
My steaks were had.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you must have mistaken me with someone
also fuck bzlib-dev
always forget the package name
always
 
Wasn't me
 
8:25 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Hehe you wouldn't want me on your team. I use tabs ;)
 
user3010322
I would join too.
 
user3010322
But I, too, use tabs.
 
@Borgleader fine with me if you run a git hook that will retab to spaces
@ThePhD same ^
 
oh, and I read a German song name as 'over the horizon' :P
look at me, learning German on the sly
 
@ScottW heh
 
8:27 PM
I don't like that bad though :S
 
@Borgleader that shouldn't be a problem anyway because python
 
man its been snowing all day =/
 
Also fuck having to add cabal bin to PATH manually
Y. just Y.
 
@BartekBanachewicz wrong way round
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit spaces in codebase.
that's the right way
 
8:31 PM
@BartekBanachewicz wrong
 
yeah you suck we all know that already
 
lern2semantic
 
how many GH projects do you have again?
 
that's a serious question
I want to see his GH project with tabs
and indentation that's fucked over
 
8:32 PM
Come on.
 
oh god
 
Searching for a job/internship always has a way of making me doubt my koalafications :(
 
spaces vs tabs again
 
Do we still have that spaces vs tabs room?
 
@BartekBanachewicz zero. you won't catch me using fucking git mate
 
8:32 PM
Whenever I try to bin to it it doesn't exist
 
oh right SVN and C++03
 
don't see what that has to do with it though
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit m8
 
no, C++11 now
SVN is great
 
yeah 11 years ago that was totally hip
 
8:33 PM
Shut up about tabs/spaces tia
 
oh yes the "arbitrary amount of time has passed since technology was first used" argument
 
no SVN is as good as it was
 
are you enjoying that oxygen you're breathing?
 
it's perfectly usable, but here's the thing: tools. evolve.
 
@BartekBanachewicz evolution doesn't automatically imply improvement
 
8:33 PM
Windows 98 also is a great OS
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 2 right budda
 
No, it isn't
 
git and svn are different ways of approaching VC
 
you use new things because they're new and for no other reason
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit in this case it does.
 
8:34 PM
it's a bit stupid to compare imo
 
@BartekBanachewicz nah
 
@BartekBanachewicz Nope. Was never great (nor even good).
 
@Rapptz you're right
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have used SVN for a long time
 
@BartekBanachewicz good
 
8:34 PM
it has nothing to offer over Git
 
yeah it does
 
right, okay then
 
@CatPlusPlus Tia: A really amazing person who i am glad that came into my life, she is so beautiful and means the world to me, her eyes are so beautiful it's unbelievable and she is just so beautiful.
 
'cept commit numbers that are sequentinal numbers
 
vOv I found SVN fine when working by myself, but when it came to working with others git has proved so much nicer for me.
 
8:34 PM
@Rapptz like what?
 
I guess you know best then. carry on
 
it's a centralised VCS
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No come on, why is SVN better than Git?
 
Like small working copies
 
@Jefffrey nice name
 
8:35 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That's pretty clearly false, especially for somebody who already knows how to use SVN.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't have the three hours spare to explain it to you
plus my Halo 4 game is about to begin
 
People still play Halo 4?
 
perhaps one day you can come over and I'll give you a $500 course in version control
:)
 
@CatPlusPlus oh right I forgot you're the advocate of saving disk and ram
 
8:35 PM
user image
2
 
How many people are online/day there?
 
@BartekBanachewicz A minimal advantage is an advantage.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ... not sure if you actually teach course or not...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit or you simply are afraid to learn git maybe
 
@BartekBanachewicz google.com/trends/explore#q=svn%2C%20git git surpassed svn twice :D
 
user3010322
8:36 PM
@Griwes +1 great UI.
 
@CatPlusPlus you are also spared from the tedium having to wait for that initial clone to pull down.
 
@StackedCrooked WTF GOOGLE WHY DO I HAVE TO LOGIN TO SEE THAT
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You also need G+ account
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ugh by the same reasoning Windows 98 takes less RAM
 
8:37 PM
@BartekBanachewicz you assume I don't know how to use it
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't. :D
 
Because you already are?
 
huh, proof people prefer asses over tits.
 
Stop bringing up Windows 98 jesus, it was a shit OS that was built on a shitty, barely working technology
 
8:37 PM
WTF
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That and also I've learned that your opinions are often based on your personal reasons that don't apply to pretty much anyone else
 
It's nothing like SVN vs git
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
I can see it if I don't login, but otherwise I need to type my password.
FFS/
 
@CatPlusPlus then stop using such lame arguments
 
8:38 PM
@BartekBanachewicz .... right...
 
@BartekBanachewicz What
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yes. right.
@CatPlusPlus like the size of working copy.
 
@BartekBanachewicz you have a funny way of debating technology. straight for the baseless ad homs.
 
It can be a huge thing
And it has little to do with disk space
What you're doing is fanboying over git right now
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, I merely just said that your arguments are very often based only on your particular usage scheme which is apparently extremely weird. That might mean that maybe using SVN works better for you and that's cool, but makes your suggestions pretty much useless to me.
 
8:40 PM
@BartekBanachewicz "weird" = "not the same thing you use", in your mind
 
@CatPlusPlus Meh, doesn't have to be Git really
 
you're being a hypocrite
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit not the same as most people use, actually
 
[citation needed]
 
@BartekBanachewicz Er, prove it?
 
8:41 PM
4 mins ago, by StackedCrooked
@BartekBanachewicz http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=svn%2C%20git git surpassed svn twice :D
here.
 
That's not a proof of use
 
SVN down, Git up
 
Hardly damning proof
 
Yeah totally.
 
8:41 PM
but, sure, one little study with some random stats, sure
 
Noone uses Git
everyone uses svn
 
Who's Noone?
 
Were you that bored to start shit Bartek?
 
Strawman
 
SVN master race.
I'm done.
 
8:41 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Unrelated stats.
 
this guy is rapping about kill -9
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nope, I logged in and then logged out just to be sure.
 
user1804599
ClearCunt.
 
user3010322
I can see it.
 
8:41 PM
You used to be vaguely interesting and fun to talk to, @Bartek. Now you're just a liar and a fool :(
 
@Borgleader I was expecting the giraffe gif
 
Ell
stop being bundles of sticks guise
 
I'm such a liar. It's obvious that much more people use SVN that Git.
 
@ThePhD It's the stupid "please type your password again" bullshit.
 
8:42 PM
@Ell haha :D
@BartekBanachewicz I never said they did. Stop strawmanning me ffs. I know it's your favourite pasttime
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOv I don't get it.
 
@Jefffrey Hmm? I don't see why you expected another one, I always use that gif
 
can we all just get over the fact someone is being a complete nipple?
 
@ThePhD From time to time Google decides I should type my password again vOv
 
@thecoshman no
 
8:43 PM
@thecoshman Nipples are good.
 
I wanted to say that
Damn you robot and your mind controlling devices
 
@Borgleader I was expecting that gif... because you always use it? :/
 
this game is HARD
 
user1804599
I wish Marin Mersenne were actually called Marin Nipple, so we would use the Nipple twister.
 
8:43 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOv I guess you can rub mine if you really want to
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah, you argue just to fucking argue not to get to any conclusions. You'll debate the validity of what I will say just to either prove how good you are in misinterpretations, or to hide that you have no real arguments yourself, regardless of whether you agree or not.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit said the duchess to the vicar
 
@BartekBanachewicz Or maybe I just disagree with you? Maybe that's okay?
 
ITT thecosh comes to Berlin and sleeps under the bridge.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you can then fucking say you disagree. But you won't do it.
You'll lose everyone's time by useless nitpicking
 
user1804599
 
@BartekBanachewicz What? It's all I've ever said to you. I'm just going to plonk you now because you're being a total dickwad
 
and then state how great you are because everyone is just too tired repeating the same over and over until your overblown ego is satisfied
 
W/ jekyll is there a way to tell markdown to not parse in an area?
 
Ell
how many of you here have a laptop?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah do it hth
 
8:45 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOV it's an offer
 
user3010322
I am on a laptop!
 
@NoahHuppert Put up a sign
 
@Jefffrey I always use deer_popcorn.gif =/
 
user1804599
@NoahHuppert <div>/</div> should do.
 
8:45 PM
@ThePhD I'm on a horse.
 
user1804599
@Ell I have a laptop.
 
@ThePhD they are not for sitting on!
 
I'm on a blanket on a chair
I clearly win
 
Xeo
I'm on a bed.
 
user3010322
@thecoshman But... but it's so warm. ;~;
 
user1804599
8:46 PM
I am on a bed with a laptop.
 
Beds have no back
 
should have done this months ago!
 
@rightfold To not even parse. Not just to not show.
 
Walls are not comfy
 
@CatPlusPlus silly cat, wrap up in it
 
8:46 PM
@Borgleader that's my point? :|
 
Ell
@rightfold what do you have and is it good?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Chairs are good. Charis, maybe even better.
 
user1804599
@NoahHuppert indeed.
 
@thecoshman It's a poor cat's pillow substitute :(
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm lying down
 
8:46 PM
I only have one pillow
And it's on the bed
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh come on, don't be an ass
 
user1804599
@Ell I have a MacBook Pro and it is good.
 
@CatPlusPlus for the 'roids?
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is it amazing?
 
Ell
hmm I need a good Linux laptop
 
user1804599
8:47 PM
I have three pillows on my bed.
 
@rightfold sametiez
 
@thecoshman No, for the chair that's near EOL
 
user1804599
There are no good Linux laptops.
 
Ell
inb4 Linux is bad
 
@rightfold wtf
me too
 
8:47 PM
@Jefffrey I'm just being honest. If assery is involved, then it's due to the facts alone!
 
@Jefffrey But you said giraffe! (I didn't see the link before)
 
@rightfold s/Linux //
 
The sponge thing inside is dead p much
 
@JerryCoffin DAMN YOU!
 
@Ell By now you know not to listen to rightfold, right?
 
8:47 PM
@Borgleader oh, right... it's a deer
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey I go crazy when I have to sleep with only a single pillow.
 
There are no good laptops period
 
user3010322
Aha! Now we know Rightfold's weakness.
 
user1804599
@Ell Linux is good, especially Gentoo.
 
8:48 PM
@thecoshman No need. I'm already in hell.
 
@rightfold stop
 
@Jefffrey It's not a giraffe.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, he's right. There are no good linux laptops, or osz laptops, or any sort of laptop.
@JerryCoffin oh yeah, married.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey It is a dog.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes google says so
 
8:49 PM
@Jefffrey it's not an advark
 
It's clearly a hamster
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey it is an Om nom nom, duh. goo.gl/nOnmjF
 
ITT Google doesn't know shit what animals are.
 
8:49 PM
ITT Google contradicts itself
 
@Borgleader fuuuuuuu
 
oh also
24
Q: Are there any statistics that show the popularity of Git versus SVN?

JakobI'm writing an essay, and would like to have some empiric evidence, perhaps longitudinal data where the popularity of these technologies is compared over a period of some years. Are there any statistics that show the popularity of Git versus SVN?

 
you win
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's a very clever group of spiders.
 
Ell
8:50 PM
@r.martinho his hipster entertains me :)
@rightfold Linux mint ftw!
 
my ears are dying
 
Ell
so user friendly
 
@BartekBanachewicz Interesting how the top answer shows stats that contradict your previous assertion.
 
@Jefffrey no
@Jefffrey see here
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey dat theme.
 
user1804599
8:51 PM
Y u no shadows and noise.
 
@rightfold because it's noisy
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's almost like git is not always better than SVN in every possible way
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes It seems that SVN repos are slowly declining in popularity byt the numbers, though?
 
and because I'm reading a CSS3 book
 
user3010322
While Git is still heading up.
 
8:52 PM
It doesn't matter, though
 
and I just felt like editing
 
user3010322
There's still like, 30%+ SVN share though
 
@BartekBanachewicz I just tried to explain what monads are to the JS room. I was told to stop with my pedantic analogies and stop wasting their time :D
 
user1804599
More people should use SVN so I can feel more hipster.
 
@ThePhD What
 
user1804599
8:53 PM
The only person of which I know that he uses SVN is Francis.
 
> from Burlesque to Fetish theatre - :D
 
That's for a single site though
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes From Eclipse COmmunity Survey
 
user3010322
The Ohloh has opposite data, though.
 
user1804599
@VirtualBlackFox hey man what’s up.
 
8:53 PM
@ScottW :c
 
user3010322
I would be interested in Bitbucket percentages, but they don't allow SVN. =[
 
user3010322
Just Mercurial and Git.
 
You should be kept away from statistics.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes s/from statics//
 
acetaminophen pls
:(
Yeah I'm getting some later
 
8:54 PM
@ThePhD Your conclusion does not follow.
 
user1804599
Ibuprofen.
 
@ThePhD assembla do
 
@ThePhD Does it?
 
@rightfold paracetable :S
 
user1804599
Zopiclone.
 
8:55 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum what
 
user1804599
XTC.
 
hf
 
@rightfold rohypnol
 
in JavaScript, 21 mins ago, by SomeKittens Ux2666
^^ exactly what's going on here
 
8:55 PM
@ScottW don't forget to pay for them this time.
 
user1804599
I want to hug a human.
 
@rightfold soon o_o
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, Ohloh has more SVN and has had more SVN for a number of years, and it's steadinly hanging around low 40s to high 30s, while Git has increased somewhat over time.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum sorry Benjamin, but some folks there are so fucking closeminded idiots that even my worst baseless dumb JS rants can't compete
 
@ScottW vOv jus saying, don't forget to pay.
 
8:56 PM
@ThePhD Keep going.
 
user3010322
While the Eclipse Community Survey says that Git is increasing, while SVN is suffering a (very small) decline in usage.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes, I was wrong. The trend is pretty visible tough.
 
@BartekBanachewicz he is not an idiot, I just suck at explaining monads - everyone sucks at that
 
user3010322
So it seems overall Git is gaining popularity, while SVN is more or less stable in its shares.
 
user1804599
 
8:57 PM
pwned
 
@BartekBanachewicz What trend?
 
@ScottW my css3 book is basically 2/3 about how to deal with IE
 
The trend that doesn't have anything to do with technical merits of either solution
 
@ThePhD could be a lot of companies slowly realising that shit like clearcase is costing too much
 
> Subversion: 2,844 jobs (down from 3,377 on 18 June 2012)
> Git: 2,107 jobs (up from 1,208)
 
8:58 PM
And there's no clearly visible trend.
 
I mean, seriously, stop looking at usage stats, they mean fucking nothing
 
You too should be kept away from statistics.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that Git usage is growing and Subversion usage is shrinking
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's not shrinking.
 
One bit of data is not trend
 
8:59 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I passed my Statistics class with a reasonably good mark
 
Me too. I didn't know shit back then.
 
@CatPlusPlus they 'prove' somebodys point
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
Also PHP has probably more users than C++
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well okay that's actually a valid thing
 
8:59 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes you keep adding two too many words at the end
 
Clearly PHP is better at C++ at everything
 
@ThePhD Something like ohloh probably under-represents Git somewhat though. Since Ohloh is (or at least acts like) a centralized repository, it loses some of the advantages of a distributed system like Git or Mercurial. That's not to say it renders Git or Mercurial useless, but they provide more advantages in other scenarios.
 

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