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12:02 PM
right... so what do you lots think of the fucking noise
 
@thecoshman Boy you're really passionate about this.
 
        void set_etag(std::string const& value)
        {
            m_etag = std::move(value);
        }
 
@rubenvb did you get an eternal yellow screen? if you find any error messages in the JavaScript console do let me know.
 
12:11 PM
I think we should institute the death penalty for those that answer a question in comments.
 
@sehe It's everywhere.
    void set_partition_key(const utility::string_t& partition_key)
    {
        m_partition_key = std::move(partition_key);
    }
 
whoops
accidentally considered Clang types as copy constructible when they clearly were not.
 
Every damn function does the same. hahahaha
 
I bet they claim it's move aware :0
I'm already building my own, but I was peeking at this Apache2.0 licensed source to see whether I could nick some ideas
 
@sehe that's why I don't want to work at MS
oh also because they like DirectX I heard
 
12:14 PM
Different people, different preferences. All there is to it. As long as its helpful to the OP, I'm fine. — N.B. 52 secs ago
Need to calm down
Caaaalm, doooown.
 
hmmm.
 
CALM DOWN JEFFFREY
 
a non-complex non-copyable type?
well fuck me sideways.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes they don't quite get yet this C++ thing
sent spies to github
 
@Jefffrey I don't see how he's not exactly right. Preferences. Yes. For me, it's less mental burden to just debit some truth in a comment than to ponder whether it's worth making it an answer before I do so
@BartekBanachewicz C++11
 
12:17 PM
@sehe there's C++ and "old C++"
let's not be C community
using "old" is perfect because it implies outdated lame and bad
Tomalak is not here so I can make statements like this <3
 
What do you mean, @Lightness is not here?
 
nanananan
 
NaN?
 
@sehe What should it be? string const&& value without the move?
 
@Jefffrey brb, need to check my comments
 
12:20 PM
@BoniTea string value with a move
 
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@sehe el oh el
 
@StackedCrooked Hmm, it seems the command itself isn't in the output anymore. I can echo things just fine, but the command itself is not shown as it was previously. Is this intended? Because now it is difficult to see the button actually did something.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm precising that c++11 is the part they're not getting
 
@BartekBanachewicz Um.. thanks. I better read up on move semantics again.
 
12:21 PM
Just think: you can't move unless you can modify the source. That'll be a copy :/
 
@rubenvb can you show me a screenshot?
maybe command line is wrong or something
sometimes refresh helps (if your browser caches eagerly)
 
Ahaha. I always get invisible source editor on opera :(
Has been since almost the beginning. I think it broke after ~1 month
So, I'm using chrome just to post on Coliru
 
user1804599
Socket.IO is really nice.
 
@sehe Good point. const shouldn't be there. I'm mostly confused about when && and move should be used at the moment, which is kinda basic. I'll just look these up. Thanks though.
 
@StackedCrooked I seem to remember that Coliru showed the command it executed before executing it, but now it doesn't and with a no-op program it seems difficult to see if anything actually happened. screenie
 
12:24 PM
@BoniTea The best place is potentially Scott Meyers talks/articles
 
@sehe I watched GoingNative but that kinda went over myhead.
It made sense while watching it. But when I got around to using them, I kept stumbling.
 
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Q: Should I write constructors using rvalues for std::string?

Bartek BanachewiczI have a simple class: class X { std::string S; X (const std::string& s) : S(s) { } }; I've read a bit about rvalues lately, and I've been wondering, if I should write constructor for X using rvalue, so I would be able do detect temporary objects of std::string type? I think it should...

 
@BartekBanachewicz Right.. I keep forgetting that this is not just a chat and I can search in SO. Thank you.
 
@BoniTea many people forget that :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm always here.
 
12:34 PM
@BoniTea handson is the only way for me to make things stick
@LightnessRacesinOrbit But he can still make statements like that :)
 
Got a manual clock for tests now.
A bit late but fuck it.
Winter is gone! :(
 
it's not
it will come back and rape us with frost again
 
@rubenvb Ah, you can add set -x as the first command to enable command tracing. (In the past this was enabled by default.)
 
Can you wget things from Coliru?
 
@StackedCrooked oh yes, right. Thanks. Firefox remembers the command I previously used. That's why. Thanks for your time :-)
 
12:42 PM
np
 
also dumb Poles
apparently our dumbfuck communist country wants to tax B2B contracts
 
sounds reasonable to me
 
But you're a commie mutant traitor.
 
I think Puppy will end up a politician someday
 
I am not.
 
12:56 PM
I don't know, I have this notion
 
user1804599
Night-watchman states best states.
 
Barb was totally being traitorous.
 
user1804599
Everything else is terrible.
 
and my barrel was totally red.
 
Apparently someone tried to accept an answer of mine exactly 2 years after the answer, but... slipped the schedule by 5 days :(
 
12:57 PM
hehe the barrel thing was awesome.
Running through a corridor with Excessively Lethal Radiation was dumb as fuck, though.
 
I don't see why boost::optional<T>::reset(T const&) was deprecated. It was kinda nice with uniform initialization
 
yeah, I didn't realize that I wouldn't have to be a traitor for my other five clones.
I'm pretty sure you mentioned that only later.
 
They state that
> Deprecated: same as operator= ( T const& v) ;
 
else I would have gone around or just told the green guards we didn't have rad shields.
 
1:01 PM
But it's not, if you did o.compound.reset({a, b});, because now if you do o.compound = {a,b}; overload resolution fails.
@sudorm-rfTelkitty You totally follow the wrong sources for news
having to explicitly name the type sucks (o.compound = CompoundMemberType { a, b }; ... sigh)
 
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@sehe I like that.
 
// Retry  Writing command to board  before Giving Up
static const size_t RETRY_SENDING_COMMAND = 5;
sigh
 
That sort of thing I do the rolls myself
 
@rightfold ...
 
1:06 PM
In case it is a fail, no one gets tipped off that something is going on
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit there's a time and place for everything
 
Hey don't tell that!
The pirate was completely lost about how that happened
 
Even for sighing demonstratively in the lounge
 
user1804599
@sehe vOv
 
I assume you're being serious.
 
1:07 PM
huh
frankly I thought that he was quite clear about what was going on.
totally justified in this case.
 
@sehe Maybe to fall in line with the Standard proposal? It doesn’t have such a member.
 
In case it's not clear: what's going on?! (games, I presume)
 
let's just cover up that one.
 
why don't people know the difference between IT and software engineer?
 
@LucDanton Same "problem" to me. Well, uniform initialization isn't without it's own caveats, so maybe that's a sane route to go. I could do a free function :)
 
user1804599
1:09 PM
@sehe I am.
 
so anyway
when is your plan for the next session?
 
Just to answer the question.
 
next weekend?
 
@Crowz because they don't work as either
 
user1804599
I like it even more when you swap out the braces for parentheses.
 
1:09 PM
He was asking me secretly if he dreamt you had the yellow one.
 
lol
which he totally was.
I did not possess a yellow barrel.
 
and in future
I'll have two pistols to use.
 
Dunno about next weekend. It's my flatmate's birthday on Saturday.
 
master stroke there.
 
1:11 PM
Maybe Sunday.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but of course, people here are dicks, so the reverse view must be taken
 
"yeah let's interpret the votes in a way that serves my purpose"
 
hi bartek
 
1:13 PM
you better?
as in, have you recovered from yesterdays exam disappointment?
 
He must thank you a lot for bring the pain back to his memory
 
@TonyTheLion It wasn't an exam dissapointment, it was personal dissapointment.
Anyway I met her today and she told me to fuck off so yeah.
But I feel better alright
 
@BartekBanachewicz :(
 
user1804599
BARTEKJE! :D
 
hmmm.
I think I really need references to references in my type system.
 
1:21 PM
@rightfold waat
 
@BartekBanachewicz Literally "Fuck off"? You should get into the habit of recording such meetings. You might then be able to blackmail yourself a pass mark, (though I could never condone such action, being illegal and all that).
 
isn't reference defined as "an alternative access to an object"?
@MartinJames not literally :F
 
well I can define them however I like.
 
1:22 PM
all I'm saying is that if you start collapsing references everywhere, then you basically end up special casing them every-fucking-where.
they can't use any of the normal machinery.
 
heh, I am vaguely aware of the existence of references in Haskell
I wonder what is the main factor that determines they are needed to write reasonable code
 
Not the same thing
 
hm
 
@LucDanton yeah, appreciated :)
 
You only need references as a thing for code where mutation is a thing
 
1:24 PM
but I guess that if you don't collapse references at run-time, then you can end up referring to references and stuff.
 
That's why you have some "ref" thingies in ST and IO
 
@rightfold Me too, actually. If explicit ctor, let's drop the trendy ness (except in vexing situations)
 
and that could get icky, I guess?
 
ST-icky
 
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@sehe What I really miss is designated initialisers.
 
user1804599
1:25 PM
They are C’s best feature that C++ lacks.
 
@rightfold C11 FTW
 
ST is nice :(
 
user1804599
I always enable the language extension in clang.
 
maybe I should just stick with special-casing them everywhere.
 
Luc is the only one here who would say that something is nice followed by ":("
 
1:25 PM
Outside of ST it doesn't really matter if things are references or values. They are indistinguishable
And ST refs you can see as yet more of the the same "valences" thingies you have everywhere.
(refalues? I want something in the spirit of "wavicle")
 
brrrrr
 
@BartekBanachewicz because of niceness being unavailable to him?
 
well in general I'm puzzled by the fact that some problems that I commonly meet in other languages just don't exist in Haskell
 
Closely related to emotions as jealousy, melancholy etc.
 
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1:28 PM
I am going to make a videogame today.
 
@sehe Haskell should be available to everyone
 
as opposed to a language yesterday?
 
@rightfold I thought you dropped out of horrendous college practicums
 
@rightfold wanna make a videogame with me someday?
 
user1804599
@DeadMG I did not work on Styx yesterday.
 
user1804599
1:28 PM
@BartekBanachewicz No.
 
@rightfold foei
 
my general point is still valid though
 
user1804599
I worked on Flame yesterday.
 
I guess that I could just lie in the type system.
 
user1804599
1:29 PM
I only need to refactor the querying interface because the query function does way too much now.
 
rightfold's dream is to work on a different project each day of the year.
 
and say something completely untrue but would probably still work.
 
user1804599
Then I can release version 0.01.
 
let's do that, let's lie out our arses in the type system.
what could possibly go wrong.
 
@rightfold :(
 
1:32 PM
I personally maintain 10 apps (which I built) across 3 markets (iphone android & windows phone) and is doing a building construction project, which is almost as exciting as working on a different project each week :p
 
@rightfold you can't release because that would mean something is really done
 
you can always release
 
plenty of (free) downloads & usage, don't see much cash coming in though @_@ ... it is almost like I am running a charity
 
user1804599
Well, it works. vOv
 
My 'Bad Question of the Day' entry:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21578828/how-can-i-develop-an-app-like-airstream-to-access-pc-mac-files-in-iphone
 
1:35 PM
anyway haste haste haste haste
I want to try it butt work
 
user1804599
You can do logical AND queries without grouping and sorting and with only exact matches.
 
need to get back to work now >_<
 
@MartinJames answered
 
@StackedCrooked How very answer as it possible early:)
 
always trying to help :P
 
user1804599
1:39 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Unless you’re into <canvas> and web sockets.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum 3.5k USD is about 10k PLN so there you go :v
 
Yeah, that makes sense. Do you have an adviser yet?
 
I'm not doing PhD
 
@CatPlusPlus Me neither! What a horrible thought..
 
MSc by course ~_~
I guess we will see you a lot for the next 2 years that means :D
 
1:55 PM
@rightfold maybe. Harvest-ts is on canvas, but I wanted to use EventStreams instead of websockets.
 
user1804599
I will use Erlang on server.
 
user1804599
Because Erlang is fun.
 
@CatPlusPlus What are you MScing in?
 

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