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8:00 PM
Fucking box renames fail intermittently for whatever reason
VirtualBox is too stupid to remove the log when old VM is destroyed :cripes:
 
Why am I so terrible ;_;
For a moment I forgot that I am limping and dashed out of the pizza joint.
That hurt.
 
@JerryCoffin Not my favorite
 
Xeo
wtf
 
8:02 PM
You know
 
Xeo
why are you still writing here at that time.
 
I don't like how std::integer_sequence is in the standard
 
lol
 
Xeo
Better question
 
8:02 PM
How do you forget you're limping
 
At what time?
 
Xeo
why were you limping
 
22 is not too late to finish diner.
 
he was impersonating house of course
 
Xeo
@Rapptz ?
 
8:03 PM
@Xeo I look at it as a sign that we're never going to get better ways of unpacking.
 
Nobody needs unpacking
 
Xeo
@Rapptz err
what
 
All we need is love
 
@Xeo I hurt my toe.
 
why are you telling us
 
8:04 PM
@Sofffia I do--a lot of my stuff is in storage right now.
 
@Xeo The indices trick is a work around for how shitty it is to unpack a tuple (or tuple like) objects.
 
;9
 
Tuples should have been in the language
 
to the pub!
 
user3010322
WTB implicit 0->n unpacking indices from variadic packs.
 
8:08 PM
Why can I edit other's people deleted answers?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Any opinion on handling (a) vs a?
 
@Sofffia "Other's"?
 
@Luc not sure I understand.
 
Tuples of a single element should not be allowed
 
Xeo
@LucDanton s/vs/==/
 
8:09 PM
Oh. You mean that.
 
Haskell handles it the right way.
 
user3010322
Tuples of a single element should be exactly equal to a single element.
 
Python on the other hand has (a,)
 
That would not work in C++
 
probably because in Python users use tuples basically as lists
 
8:10 PM
Tuples in Haskell are used quite differently.
 
e.g. recently I implemented an n-ary cardinal product at the type-level. Decided to have cardinal_product<list<a, b, c>> (i.e. unary) be list<list<a>, list<b>, list<c>>.
 
The untyped { a, b, c } should've been tuples.
 
at least that was the impression with django
 
Python has a,, the parens are not part of the tuple
 
But I guess that ship has sailed :F
 
8:11 PM
Except for ()
 
user3010322
@Griwes Totally agree.
 
I LIKE HOW SOURCETREE SOMETIMES STOPS PULLING SUBTREES AND YOU HAVE TO RESTART IT
 
ME TOO
 
no need to yell
 
You can't take, say, arbitrary-sized tuples in Haskell.
 
8:11 PM
Caps is cruise control for cool :D
 
In C++ that is quite useful, though.
 
yeah, because tuples are not made to be arbitrary sized
the number of elements is implicit in the tuple type
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It’s still telling that some Haskellers do go out of their way to use HList though. (Or maybe it’s not that much actually—I’ve never really used the thing.)
 
Arbitrary-sized tuples without null tuples or singletons is dumb.
 
there's no such a thing as "arbitrary-sized tuples"
those are dumb
 
8:13 PM
@Luc I would consider that a niche.
@Sofffia they're useful in C++.
 
how
oh wait
i guess some template magic trick
 
Storing an arbitrary number of parameters for forwarding later.
 
of course
 
Xeo
Of course you wouldn't need that if functions couldn't take an arbitrary number of arguments
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Lenses such as _1 and so on, too.
 
8:15 PM
@Sofffia C++ is useless. Anybody who thinks otherwise is a product of a misguided patriarchy deluded.
@Xeo ...which you wouldn't need if C++ had proper Currying. Oh well, life goes on.
 
Xeo
mmmmh, curry...
 
is curry any good?
i have yet to try it
 
Xeo
depends on the curry :P
 
makes sense
dumb question
 
@Sofffia Good curry is awesome (I'm partial to green curry, but...)
 
8:17 PM
Spicy curry is good curry
Very spicy curry is very good curry.
 
Don't put curry on pizza.
 
@Nooble Curry doesn't have to be spicy to be good though.
 
Ell
Too spicy curry is bad curry
 
But it is optimal when spicy level is high.
Sofffia I was just about to answer that question.
Aghaghagha
 
Ell
I bought a curry sand which in Switzerland and it was coronation chicken
 
8:20 PM
> Defaults? Been there fought that! Any defaults would give those who want alternative hard time to remove them.
 
Ell
Not curry at all
 
programmers.txt
 
@Ell Curry sand sounds...gritty.
 
@CatPlusPlus wa
 
Too spicy curry is Too good to handle.
 
8:22 PM
@Jerry apparently it was just the sand.
 
The sand gives it texture, man!
 
Xeo
@Sofffia わ
 
TIL Schnapsidee
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes But which sand was it?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
8:25 PM
It's a cool word.
 
@JerryCoffin Spicy sand
 
#define DELTA 0x9e3779b9
#define MX (((z>>5^y<<2) + (y>>3^z<<4)) ^ ((sum^y) + (key[(p&3)^e] ^ z)))
 
The hell is that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Gotta be some crappy cipher (or at least a crappy implementation of a cipher).
 
Also Kopfkino.
German is cool.
 
8:28 PM
Clearly MX could not be put in some function.
The point of cyphers is not to encrypt the code itself
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You seem pre-occupied with...wild ideas today.
 
:(
why can't I do struct stuff<T, static_cast<T>(0)> {};?
 
So I was excited for registering for an AP Computer Science class in high school... Turns out they teach Java and Java only.
No going back either, already signed up.
:C
 
wat
Because static_cast<T>(0) is not a type?
 
no shit
 
8:32 PM
@DavidPeterson Think I'm going to start answering these more...basic questions and see how things pan out, hinting that they should have researched it themselves first in the answer with resources for them to learn from, nice middle ground possibly.
 
you can store non-type parameters in a template parameter list ya know
 
@Rapptz It’s kinda hard to match.
 
@OMGtechy that sounds like a good approach.
 
std::integer_sequence is broken :(
 
Arbitrary expressions, that is.
 
8:32 PM
I have no idea how to write it
 
One of my students asked me why these talks advocated raw pointers. Any idea what talk that might have been?
 
@CaptainGiraffe nope
 
@CaptainGiraffe Too many crappy talks around for that to narrow it down much.
 
@Rapptz template<typename T, T... Indices> struct integer_sequence { static constexpr auto size = sizeof...(Indices); };
 
Probably should have asked them, no?
 
8:33 PM
@Rapptz wait
What is that?
 
-4
Q: Well. Is that really a girl that pretty-looking?

knitevisionhttp://stackoverflow.com/users/560648/lightness-races-in-orbit I simply got no idea where else I can question that :-)

 
@LucDanton Sure. (size is supposed to be a function) But how do I make them?!
 
It's not a struct declaration.
Why are you using the struct prefix?
 
It's specialisation
 
8:35 PM
@CatPlusPlus That would require template<> at the beginning IIRC
 
It's probably there
 
He omitted it for exposition.
 
@Rapptz std::make_integer_sequence, duh :D
 
@TemplateRex the "related works" section should probably come before the "design goals" section, right?
 
Yeah I simplified because I assumed everyone knew what I meant
template<typename T>
struct generator<T, static_cast<T>(0)> : integer_sequence<T> {
    using type = integer_sequence<T>;
};
just for you Jeff.
 
8:36 PM
Thanks
 
@Mysticial He coulda asked in the lounge.
 
@Rapptz I don’t remember how I dealt with that the last time I wrote one. Possibly just put in 0.
 
@LucDanton imba
@LucDanton would that really work though?
I kind of figured it wouldn't, but who knows
 
Just do the static_cast later, no?
I don't know why I'm talking.
 
error: type 'T' of template argument '0' depends on a template parameter
 
8:38 PM
Yes. The problem are type-dependent expressions, when they depend on other template arguments of the specialization. That one is an… interesting problem.
@Rapptz Then I probably ditched the template parameter and restricted myself to std::index_sequence.
You could try an SFINAE match on an N == 0 test :s
template<typename Int, Int Size, bool SFINAE = (Size == 0)> struct gen; deal.
 
writing workarounds for the workaround
 
Why not a plain specialization?
 
only in C++-land
 
@Nooble Or used his crust
 
I looked at how libstdc++ does it
 
8:41 PM
Lounge, editor, shell—but where to put streams/videos? I need a fourth screen.
 
and they make indices to make their indices or something
idk how to describe it
 
@LucDanton sudo apt-get install screen
 
omg, wohnzimmer channel
sehr gut
 
@Rapptz Johannes-style perhaps? gen<T, Arg, Args...>: gen<T, Arg-1, Arg, Args...> IIRC.
 
8:42 PM
@MarcoA. 18
 
This is getting out of hands
 
@CaptainGiraffe do you suggest mplayer with libcaca?
 
@LucDanton Yeah.
 
@sehe I have had only joy with that.
 
@CaptainGiraffe I use tmux.
 
8:43 PM
@Sofffia because you fuel it
 
@CaptainGiraffe I don't get it
 
@sehe How?
 
@Sofffia boys and lesbians, actually
 
@LucDanton I'm sure the inferior tmux can also execute mplayer in a frame.
 
Bah screens tmuxes
i3 or bust
 
8:44 PM
it seems my laptop sucks too much for building clang
man I don't wanna buy a new pc
 
While googling
I stumbled upon this:
14
Q: Implementation C++14 make_integer_sequence

KhurshidI've tried implement C++14 make_integer_sequence. For information, make_integer_sequence compile time defined integer_sequence template< class T, T... I> struct integer_sequence { typedef T value_type; static constexpr size_t size() noexcept { return sizeof...(I) ; } }; template< cla...

 
@CatPlusPlus Link or I'll give you catnip
 
github.com/at-import/Singularity Something for you css purists @Sofffia @rightfold
 
I don't get why @Xeo got the accepted answer.
 
@CaptainGiraffe i3wm.org you lazy butt
 
Xeo
8:45 PM
@Rapptz Because I'm awesome, duh.
 
integer_sequence depends on type T but he just uses unsigned
boos
 
@rightfold gemist. wat was er?
 
@CatPlusPlus Thanks, you resourceful furball.
 
Xeo
@Rapptz oh noes, so hard to generalize!
 
it is
surprisingly
I'm having a harder time with this than I thought
:v
 
8:47 PM
And for generally( not only for unsigned, for general type T), you couldn't specialization with N = 0, and N=1. Compiler shows following error: error: non-type template argument depends on a template parameter of the partial specialization. — Khurshid Jul 3 '13 at 4:18
 
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A: How exactly is std::make_integer_sequence implemented?

ecatmurNone of the major compiler standard libraries currently provide a sub-O(n) (logarithmic or otherwise) implementation of N3658 compile-time integer sequences. libstdc++ (gcc): Standard O(n) implementation walking a chain of typedefs. This is equivalent to a FP function concatenating to the end o...

it seems everyone just uses the ezpz way
 
Xeo
BLOODY HELL SHUT UP UP THERE
 
?
 
Xeo
Can you please not moan through the whole house WTF
 
Starting early tonight, no?
 
Xeo
8:52 PM
my neighbours are at it again
 
are they sexing it up
 
Xeo
I don't wanna be "that" guy to go and bring them back to reality by knocking at their door or something
but jeesus fuck it's annoying
I can even hear it through my headphones
 
The solution is clearly to play porn even louder
8
 
@Rapptz Sexing it up to eleven, apparently.
 
@Xeo leave a note. could be anonymous
 
8:58 PM
so that was pretty good
enjoyed it tho it didnt stun me
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Are you his neighbour?
 
:D
 
Oh, you're talking about the movie.
 
Xeo
I swear, next thing they're vibrating through the bed and floor
 
Don't join them
what if they are carrying ebola
 
Xeo
8:59 PM
I've opted for loud music for now
 
@Sofffia by continuing to post stuff like that. So, someone wrote an dissentious note. He/she had a bad experience. (Now, someone else wil write a note saying that boys simply take school much more seriously, hence they dress appropriately etc.).
BREAKING: We don't need to know who is slinging mud the farthest
 
@Sofffia Wait, people do that?
 
If you go to school dressed like a prostitute, yes they do.
Just like going to school in boxers is not tolerable for men.
 
Xeo
Okay, it's starting to sound like they're starting to work the ground with a rubber mallet.
 
inb4 it's not the same thing
 
9:04 PM
Well, it's not what it says on the text.
 
@Sofffia ugh
 
@Xeo Why do you think they are away from reality?
She is clearly faking it
 
@Sofffia Who gets to decide what "dressed like a prostitute" means? According to some, that could be: "I could see her eyes" or even: "I'm almost sure a hair was visible."
 
The dean gets to decide.
It's his school.
or her school
 
user1804599
@sehe docu over een zeker IT-bedrijf dat de overheid oplicht.
 
9:12 PM
@JerryCoffin Everything is relative but at some point you can be fairly certain stuff falls into a category.
 
@rightfold oh. welk bedrijf?
I would very much vouch against "restoring" sanity, by using deprecated parts of a library (that have been deprecated since August 14th, 2008). — sehe 39 secs ago
 
user1804599
@JerryCoffin You are dressed like a prostitute unless you wear a burqa, duh.
 
@JerryCoffin if it's pubic hair...
 
ew
 
user1804599
@sehe Een Ordinair bedrijf.
 
9:16 PM
wowzers. What was the main transgression?
 
@sehe Hok ilyu lopegh
 
@Sofffia Barbatu corni el pilio
 
user1804599
@sehe leaking of confidential government information by consultants.
 
user1804599
And prijsafpraken e.d.
 
@sehe Tyshzk ilu yaveh
 
9:18 PM
Whouch. That's technically not "swindling the government", rather it's breach of contract and "economisch delict" ("trade crime"?)
 
Fraud?
 
I think this is the best code I have ever written.
 
user1804599
@sehe Yes.
 
user1804599
Hmm, let's look at their stocks.
 
user1804599
 
9:20 PM
yesterday, by sehe
Phurlong hoists the do-cackle minus loindroin blartfast czyrpinsky flail
(with sprinkles: …⋱⋰⋯︙⋮…⋱⋰⋯︙⋮…⋱⋰⋯︙⋮)
 
What's going on?
 
The raging inferno
 
Holy fuck
-24%
 
@LucDanton close; in Dutch law there's a distinction between "individuals" and "corporate" perps.
 
Corporate misdemeanor!
 
9:23 PM
In short, exceeding cargo limits as a lone citizen will be fined €200-300, doing the same as a business constitutes economic fraud and will be fined €3,000-10,000.
@LucDanton Nice. That sounds close to the mark (if not on it)
 
> Ordina is the largest independent services provider in the field of consulting, solutions and IT in the Benelux. We focus on the financial services sector, public sector, healthcare sector and a number of specific segments in the industry sector.
That's gonna leave a mark.
 
@rightfold I don't think a burqa is nearly sufficient. I find bilateral symmetry very sexy, so disguising that is a bare minimum...
 
@JerryCoffin Bare?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Bare! (Those minimums can be really sexy too...)
 
Yay, I saved a spider. A pretty big one, actually.
I won't pretend that my reasons weren't selfish, but I do feel good that he'll now be free to roam the great outdoors, finding food and doing spider activities. Sure, it helps that I can now roam my house free of fear.
He'd been perched on my living room wall quite contently until the moment I finished Edge of Tomorrow, choosing that moment to make a dash for it, possibly detecting that his capture would be imminent. My insistence that he wouldn't be harmed didn't seem to make him any calmer about the matter.
... so now you know.
 
Xeo
9:32 PM
*pachi pachi pachi*
 
I don't care about spiders in my house.
I let them stay.
 
Has somebody tried 1Password?
 
Xeo
they're still at it...
gaaaaaaaaaaaaah
 
What a fucking champ.
Literally.
50 minutes?
 
Xeo
they had periodic pauses
 
9:46 PM
Still impressive.
 
 
3654
 
user1804599
Eww, public buttons.
 
@LucDanton I'm guessing 3456.
 
I used to live in a place with a passcode. All the codes we had were L-shapes.
 
9:48 PM
1479
 
Yeah, I don't find that strange. I've seen 3/456 style series though (456/2, 123/9 etc.)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You monster
 
@Rapptz I let them stay on windows outside but inside I worry about them crawling too close :(
 
Kill all spiders with fire
 
Okay. This looks more like a rant or an open letter, but, okay. Removing downvote. — sehe 41 secs ago
 
user1804599
9:55 PM
LinkedIn is borked.
 
user1804599
 
We can only hope it stays that way
Forever
 
Wow yeah that's proper fucked. All the words in the screenshot make no sense.
 
You suck
 
9:59 PM
LinkedIn isn't here and therefore can't hear you, @sehe.
 

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