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5:00 PM
I don't like remove_reference_t and friends
 
@JerryCoffin It gets better: 'I do not have a great deal of experience writing makefiles, and unfortunately due to the size of the codebase there are multiple nested levels of them (upwards of 2,000 makefiles in the SDK) with all sorts of dependencies, all spawning from the One True Makefile in the root folder.'
 
the naming scheme is just weird to me
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's German law. I think German is fine for that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Then I think that you should confine discussion relating to it, to the Wohnzimmer<C++> room.
 
@MartinJames Okay, now you're scaring me.
 
5:01 PM
Or perhaps chat.de.stackoverflow.com (you know it's coming)
 
I'm not making this up:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26165177/correctly-including-posix-libraries-in-deeply-nested-source-makefiles
 
> We have a large SDK containing ~1Gb of hairy code hacked together by Elbonian Code Slaves
lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It would be cooler if other governments did the same :P
 
Obviously we should settle all this with namespaces: trait::remove_reference and alias::remove_reference!
 
librarian-puppet is so shitty
 
5:05 PM
room topic changed to Wohnzimmer<C++>: Please send help! We can't find the reset button! [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
 
I think for the sake of being consistent with the standard I should just give up and use the _t suffix
:(
 
haha
@R.MartinhoFernandes Okay you may talk about it now
 
lol
Ha! found a commit message in English github.com/bundestag/gesetze/commit/…
 
#Russia, good luck trying to block people from viewing public websites.
lol
 
5:07 PM
Another one living under a rock?
 
Is it easier to block a non-public website?
 
It's not like it wasn't tried (with some degree of success) before.
 
Great Firewall of China
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What "some degree of success"?
It's a complete failure.
 
no it isn't
 
5:08 PM
@Sofffia 49.2 degrees
 
China's blocking of sites is rather successful
 
Depends on how you define success.
 
Do they block every other proxy website as well?
 
They blocked satellite providers?
 
I read they're working hard at blocking all porn in China
 
5:09 PM
The general public generally doesn't try to circumvent it.
:p
 
yea because they're mostly unaware of other things
 
lol
 
@Sofffia Do they need to?
 
We should block all China. I can drink out of earthenware mugs, if I have to.
 
I said "some degree of success" because it obviously isn't perfect.
But "not perfect" is bad enough.
 
5:10 PM
I wish mosquitoes were extinct.
 
... according to Western ideals.
 
Pretty much anyone is capable of connecting to proxy servers these days.
 
You just need to share a link on Face...
Oh.
 
What's "Face"?
 
5:11 PM
I think China doesn't do FB
 
Nothing
 
it's the first syllable of "Facebook"
a cool new site
 
@Sofffia Reminds me, must check this week's TPB proxy for TV shows.
 
You are all bad at jokes, except LRiO
 
5:12 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit why does it relate? Well a large body of statistics, behavioral genetics and social science seems to imply that it does.
 
@Sofffia He has the advantage of orbit
are you kidding me?
 
@TonyTheLion Meh - his jokes are decaying.
 
can you take this dumb conversation elsewhare
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Not sure what you're trying to say now
 
Also fuck
 
5:13 PM
fuck
 
Could you two please stop it?
 
I should have stayed away from the lounge for a week
 
Which two
Stop what
 
you and Kyle
 
Couldn't even stay away 24 hours
 
5:13 PM
I'm not doing anything?!
 
alright I will not discuss this further if you're interested see this spawktalk.blogspot.com/2014/07/…
 
@Sofffia I know the feels
 
@Rapptz, so covering it is outside of the scope of the question because other existing answers might cover it? The actual explicit questions from OP are: 1) Is my understanding of new correct? and 2) Why doesn't C++ allow the first version of my code?. You haven't addressed either of these otside of an "oh well, C++ doesnt support this". But somehow SO thinks you have because you have said "use std::vector". So, your answer doesnt cover any of the scope of the actual question. OP might actually have been aware of alternatives already. he/she wants clarification, not necessarily an alternative. — Preet Kukreti 48 mins ago
 
Kyle is posting graphs about black people's IQs and I'm saying "huh?"
 
man
 
5:14 PM
Also
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh sorry. I just saw what he replied to.
WTF.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you asked me a question about why someone's behavior is related to their race, so behavioral science I feel is relevant.
 
wat da fuck have you done with the name?
 
People are v bad at this whole "you're not answering only to the OP" thing
 
Can we please get rid of the troll now?
 
5:14 PM
@AaronKyleKilleen SHUT UP
GO AWAY
 
@AaronKyleKilleen I will kick you if you fail to abide by that statement.
 
@CatPlusPlus It’s kinda hard to explain. At least I’m stumped whenever it comes up.
 
@TonyTheLion Wait
 
AKK what are your views on eugenics
 
We can push him out :3
 
5:15 PM
So we can hit trifecta
 
@AaronKyleKilleen You hit "reply" on the wrong message, then. Beyond that, your response not only does not answer any question I've posed to you today, but is clearly massively racist and annoying and just fuck off now please
 
Those details should not have been revealed - they're from a black project.
 
dat pun
 
black ops
 
@Sofffia Nothing it is the same as it has always been! Perhaps something is wrong with your computer?
 
5:16 PM
@CatPlusPlus are you sure you want to know?
 
Why are you guys giving him attention after posting such low quality bait?
 
@CatPlusPlus s/A/K/ :P
 
He already knows he's getting reactions from you guys and you still feed it
 
oh noes
 
5:16 PM
There's something wrong with mine - I can see the screen from here.
 
@Rapptz Yeah sorry if I came into a chat room to chat and have fun with trolls. If you're not in the Lounge for that then gee I don't know what you're here for!!
 
@jalf I mean we can guess
 
To talk about things.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit talking about C++, probably
 
@CatPlusPlus Humane, noncoercive eugenics, (I imagine paying dumb people to not have kids) is a great idea, given that the heritability of IQ is usually estimated to be between .75 and .8
 
5:17 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You mean there's no free keg at 20000 rep?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You have autogoogletranslate installed?
Or whatever
 
@Sofffia or you're going mad...
 
@TonyTheLion this is not the C++ room
@MartinJames sorry
 
5:18 PM
Puppet sucks
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yea Wohnzimmer C++
@CatPlusPlus You're repeating yourself
 
So how come every time someone moans about this place on meta, you lot jump on it to explain that this is not the C++ room?
 
Come on sam
Post the damn proposal
Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam
 
@CatPlusPlus it would be much better than our current policy of paying people who are disproportionately borderline intellectual functioning to have as many kids as they want.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit chill man, I was kidding
 
5:19 PM
I'm such a pain in the ass, it's almost enjoyable.
 
@TonyTheLion yeah so was I
one day you'll invest in a sarcasm/troll detector d00d
 
but again is talking about behavioral genetics independent of race going to get me kicked?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm bad at sarcasm
@AaronKyleKilleen most definitely
 
We can but hope
 
5:20 PM
I'm really close to doing it
 
@AaronKyleKilleen can you switch to something else? C++ perhaps?
 
I was wondering why its so cold in my flat, then I saw all the windows are open. Derp
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smh in this room. thursday is flag day?
 
0 flags again wha
 
@rlemon I think it's troll day
 
5:22 PM
@rlemon Aaron has a history of stirring up shit.
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Due to the precognition of your name and the past opinions you've expressed in this room I don't think anyone is going to take anything you say seriously or give you any respect to your opinions whether they're deserved or not. I'm sure you know that though.
 
I gave him a 30-minute break.
I won't give @AaronKyleKilleen any slack next time I see him.
 
Thank you man
I had cramps from all the laughing.
 
Try to stir up trouble, and you're out.
 
5:24 PM
Ho ho ho
The cops are here
 
Meh I need to change my preseed template
 
@Sofffia Probably from my actions.
 
Shouldn't upload guest additions ISO at that point
 
Repeated kicks automatically summon mods.
 
5:25 PM
Oh
Nice I guess
 
@MartinJames Well, there is one positive point here: he at least seems to have some notion of what kind of mess he's in. That may not make his current situation a lot easier to deal with, but may help keep him away from causing even more problems.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: I'm trying to get my head around your deleted MSO post. What's going on?
 
Address him as "officer" please
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah - just glad it's not me.
 
5:26 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes How many times did you kick him?
Only the 3rd kick summons mods.
 
Xeo
nice
 
@JonEricson Someone was disputing my legitimacy for kicking someone.
 
How long is the maximum for each kick?
 
5:27 PM
@JonEricson A certain amount of nasty stuff. It's been around, on and off, all day.
 
@Sofffia First one is one minute. Second is thirty.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Link?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, it's automatic?
 
Someone probably kicked him in the meantime
Wasn't me
Dunno who, no audits because
 
@Sofffia Yes, the lengths of time are defined by the system, not the owner doing the kicking.
 
5:28 PM
@JonEricson haha
 
Not me either, but it was tempting.
 
lol @ the kick of 1 minute
 
5 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I gave him a 30-minute break.
 
Robor you were trolling meta admit it
 
5:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, it's 1st is 1 minute, 2nd is 5 minutes, 3rd is 30 minutes + auto mod flag
 
@TonyTheLion Yeah but that's 3rd
 
@Rapptz Ah.
@Rapptz This one was 30 minutes, but it was only the second time.
 
Someone must have done the other.
 
1 min ago, by Cat Plus Plus
Someone probably kicked him in the meantime
 
5:29 PM
I WANT FUCKING AUDITS
 
No, he got flagged.
 
Flags are not kicks
 
yeah, dem initial 6 minutes are really gonna slow them down
 
I threathened a kick, but didn't execute
 
lol
 
5:29 PM
@Rapptz That too, but my kick notification said "30 minutes".
 
He got kicked for 5 minutes
and in that 5 minute period, he got flagged and deleted post
 
I don't understand how it's possible to implement kicks without spitting out a message regarding it.
 
I don't recall kicks having a notification
 
@Rapptz How do you know?
 
why not start at 15 FFS?
 
5:30 PM
I couldn't bring myself to fail at that
 
@Rapptz They do, if you're the one doing it.
 
@Rapptz That's the contention point here :v
 
A slide-down thing.
 
15 hours.
 
We don't know who did that!
 
5:30 PM
@Rapptz Unless the notification lied, I kicked him for 30 minutes.
 
Flagging is orthogonal and irrelevant
 
@MartinJames prolly too much
 
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 23 minutes
 
yeah that ^
 
5:30 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, and that was the third time.
 
Flagging is global, kicks are 30 minutes for the room only
Why are you even bringing up flags
 
Also, can you other owners please announce your kicks?
 
Because he was flagged.
 
We are not going to spend the next 23 minutes arguing about the guy, are we?
 
5:31 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes yea
 
@CatPlusPlus Because he got flagged and hence suspended.
 
I shall when and if I kick someone
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes gist.github.com/rlemon/272864a44e6ceba1e4fb no gui. see global functions at the end of the file.
 
Right, next person to mention Aaron Kyle Idiot shall be banned by me.
 
Where's the meta question on audits? I want to waste another bounty.
 
5:31 PM
That's irrelevant to kick talk
 
Fuck that guy, enjoy the peace and quiet and the absence of racism, misogyny and whatever other bullshit came from him. New topic!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ok. Feel free to ping me if a suspension needs to be extended. It just occurred to me that the MSO post you wrote was from the point of view of someone else. (I'm slow on the uptake, I guess.)
 
If I got kicked for 30 minutes, I'm sure I could find something to fill in the time. Make pot of coffee, make a sandwich, read news and I'm done with my 30 min.
 
I've got delicious rhubarb pie
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I only left a comment under original announcement, dunno if someone made a post
It'll be ignored anyway
 
5:32 PM
Oh, there isn't one?
 
@jalf I'm immune - I had garlic chicken earlier.
 
Time to get meta rep to waste on bounties.
 
@jalf I'm on my way. Love Rhubarb pie.
 
@CatPlusPlus They are apparently taking good care of chat now
Totally serious
 
If I could be banned from this room from the hours of 8:30 AM to 5:30 PM, I'd find myself being extra productive
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5:33 PM
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes can't see one
@TonyTheLion Puppy managed it. Fuck, Bartek banned himself for a whole month. Weirdo
wtf Subway delivers through this takeaway site LOL
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I tried that.
 
> Types of food: Subways, Sandwiches
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looooool
 
Don't eat subways, folks
 
5:34 PM
delivery fee only £1 to have a fucking SUBWAY delivered to your door
 
@jalf I saw some at the bakery next door, but it's already closed :(
 
a whole new era in city development
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you gave me an idea
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit An actual ban, or self-imposed? Did he ask the mods to ban him?
 
@MartinJames self-imposed ;p
 
5:35 PM
@MartinJames self
 
sorry, "managed it without mods/bans"*
 
Orite. So gonna be a week, then.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit They're delivering here too but only catering-level minimum price
 
Bartek's doing really well and Puppy's barely been here
 
@MartinJames yea right, see you in a few hours
 
5:35 PM
@MartinJames Just stomped out, slammed the door and yelled at us as he left.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm surprised about Bartek, in a good way
 
me too
i'm proud of our little banana chewit
 
Someone go knock on his door and force him to log back in.
 
5:37 PM
that would be funny
 
So, on a different topic.
What do you call things that are not 'bugs' or 'feature requests'?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit from now on bartek is banana chewit for me
 
user1804599
dat living room
 
Tasks
 
that nickname sticks
 
5:38 PM
@CatPlusPlus Thanks.
 
@Rapptz 'Failed projects'
 
@Sofffia yes, as evidenced by the fact that this is the first out of nine or ten times I've used it that you've actually noticed
 
i'm not here all the time ok?!??!
 
Huh? What did bartek do?
 
@jalf he left for a while so he could study for his exams, and so far he's stuck with it.
 
5:39 PM
you basically are
 
Leave Bananaman alone, less of the nicknames.
 
no
i did a whole 10 hours without the lounge today
 
Was your power out
 
@Sofffia You slept in?
 
I barely managed 24hrs once
Thought I'd find another hobby
I failed, ended up back here
 
5:40 PM
@TonyTheLion Lockup?
 
@MartinJames without the Lounge
 
lol how is 10 hours a sleep-in
 
@MartinJames Ok, maybe just 6 hours without counting the sleeping
 
10 hours is MINIMUM
 
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Q: Can we get log messages for kicks?

R. Martinho FernandesIf you kick someone in chat there's no notification of that for anyone but yourself. This is not good. I just applied the third kick to someone thinking it was the second because someone else applied another one without my knowledge. When I kick, I have to announce it manually out of a personal ...

Just for kicks.
 
5:42 PM
Couple years ago, I was Lounge-free for more than 24 hours when my phone provider decided to cut me off because I had the audacity to hop on a plane and go somewhere else without advance notification.
 
7 hours is minimum
wat
 
7 hours is a short nap
 
@MartinJames That's actually a good feature. You should have informed them!
 
you guys sleep way too much
 
Winds me up when people bitch about their banks blocking their cards cos they went on holiday.
 
5:43 PM
12 hours is short sleep
 
You would be moaning about them not doing it if you started seeing random charges from Ebolaland on your card
 
unless you actually want to live for some hours
 
Not really no
 
are you actually serious?
how much do you sleep usually?
 
Depends
 
5:45 PM
if on holiday I'll usually get around 12 hours
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I went to Portugal. The Algarve. In the summer. The sort of thing that Brits often do. Provider bastards!
 
stuck on ~7-9 during working week
 
NACHOS are in the oven :D
 
@MartinJames Many criminals also go to the Algarve in the summer
 
I get 6-7hrs during the week
 
5:45 PM
just inform your provider; it's not hard!
right imma try a place called "Pizza Palace"
 
@MartinJames Yeah, no British bank should do anything if you go to Beefland Little Britain in Portugal Algarve.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Heh.
 
They have tourism advertisements that spell it "Allgarve" just to seem more British or something.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Fuck 'em. I was paying every month by direct debit.
 
I'm surprised they didn't have a referendum asking for independence from the Union already.
 
5:47 PM
@MartinJames they were doing you a service!
@R.MartinhoFernandes All garve, all the time.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That is exactly what they were not doing!
 
Tropicana 12" Thin Crust
this place has a 4.5/5 average rating from a staggering 100 reviews
looking forward to it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Still not hungry.
 
@MartinJames ok i'll keep trying
 
Some fucker downvoted my request for kick logs.
 
5:50 PM
lol
 
It was me.
I admit it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's at +6
 
@Rapptz I should kick you.
No one would know!
 
@MartinJames It's at +7/-1, to be more complete.
 
5:52 PM
If the same room owner kicks > 5 times in 24 hours there's an auto mod flag for that too :p
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ahaha
 
alright, enough waiting. NACHO TIME IS UPON US!
 
Still not hungry.
 
PIZZA IS ORDERED
 
I've done my time and am now ready to reenter society
 
5:56 PM
...And I am hungry.
 
OK, slightly peckish...
 
later maybe some of this
 
Someon tied a yellow ribbon round the Lounge?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit that looks like frozen pizza though
 
@MartinJames Please look for me; I can't bear to see what I might see
@AndyProwl Looks fairly well cooked to me
 
5:58 PM
@MartinJames yes someone is riding around in a ban wagon
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jesus apt-get can be so slow in VMs
 
lol
that was actually quite good
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah I mean, pizza that was once frozen :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Stop please.
 
@AndyProwl it's possible
I'll be sure to take a photo of my real one
 

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