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1:00 PM
yeah, let's talk about it tomorrow
 
@thecoshman It has almost 200k followers.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't care how many idiots their are. ಠ_ಠ
 
@thecoshman You're missing the point.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no you are ಠ_ಠ
 
trust me, each idiot gets as many vote as you do
 
1:02 PM
@thecoshman Pretty sure the vast majority of those followers are aware it is a spambot.
That's why they follow it.
 
so yes, the quantity of idiots will affect your life
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
What if you could do the very
 
@rubenvb The >o< looks like a "d'oh/grr" to me
@thecoshman No, they're not.
 
think about it, if each idiot plucks a hair from your head. You will be bald if there were enough of them.
 
1:05 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit | @thecoshman ಠ_ಠ
 
and one hair would not affect in the least way of how you look
bald, on the other hand, is totally different ... although I assumed you were not bald to start with ...
 
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type_t
 
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Moving up in the world.
 
@ThePhD wait till you start buzzing over type_coffee
 
@thecoshman if it comes with "beans" I want nothing to do with it
 
1:18 PM
i should do some work -.-
 
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@Rapptz When yuo wrote your symbolic stuff, why didn't you do something like use a tagging typedef to separate symbol from other kinds of things?
 
'tagging typedef'?
 
am I the only one who loves to add "..." to logging messages?
"Sending event..."
"Game already installed..."
I have no idea why I like to do this
 
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I do it too. <3
 
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Soulmates. <3
 
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1:22 PM
@Rapptz Like, for the is_symbol test, you just check if its a function that returns a turn when given a double.
 
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I thought there might need to be a stronger test... or something. I dunno.
 
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Grah.
 
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Fuckin' MSVC doesn't ahve Expressino SFINAE
 
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And won't for at least another two years.
 
Best log messages.
 
1:26 PM
Maybe Herb doesn't like expression SFINAE.
 
@AlexM. I do it only if I add "OK\n" later. e.g. write("xxx..."); xxx(); write("OK\n");
 
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No, they're completely incapable of implementing it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol, that's software with personality
 
I forgot how much I can enjoy blanking out the world via Industrial music
 
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STL already twisted their arms to get select pieces of Expression SFINAE into VC++ so he could use it for the standard library.
 
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1:27 PM
But it's completely unsupported and basically prone to snapping in half.
 
Do you guys know why this doesn't work but this does?
 
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Without an AST, they're not getting any expression SFINAE. And I dont' expect an AST (clarification: one that actually works) out of them for 2 years, so.
 
@Rapptz what is S? you defined list but not S?
 
er.. it's a template template class
 
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@Rapptz template<typename...> for class S better matches the base case than template<typename> class S on the lowest case?
 
1:33 PM
@ThePhD Dude, stay away from that.
Avoid it at all costs.
It will consume you.
 
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But...
 
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But some of it works!
 
That's the problem.
It's a trap.
 
@ThePhD meh that'd be retarded
lemme see
 
@ThePhD I would say four to five is realistic, it's not coming in VS"14" so it would have to be VNext +1
 
1:36 PM
@ThePhD hahaha two years
 
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@Mgetz I'm more hopeful since in VS 14 there already IS some expression SFINAE (hacked in, but way better than the CTP).
 
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It can handle the (basic) expression SFINAE done in sol
 
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(But it regressed on other completely retarded things, so...)
 
@ThePhD doesn't work if you SFINAE it out
 
@ThePhD I wouldn't get my hopes up, and even if it does work I would expect a lot of strange corner cases that will break cross platform compatibility
 
1:38 PM
It won't.
 
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Robot's right, it won't work, but as long as it can compile sol I'm game.
 
I hate template template hell
 
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Because if it can handle sol it can handle what I do in Furrovine
 
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@Rapptz But why are you doing S<> anyways?
 
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Are you handling the case of lists of lists?
 
1:39 PM
no?
I don't understand the error tbh
it recurses too much
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes repost, right?
 
:) I cognized it again
 
If it makes you feel better, I fished it out searching for your last usage of "chatty".
 
@ThePhD You're right apparently.
Changing template<typename> to template<typename...> fixes it
 
1:41 PM
It is almost complete now. I'll remember to make pics of it when I do the on-the-tube assembly. Then it's Java all the way down.
 
kinda retarded but I'll just pretend it didn't happen
 
I lost the one LCD I had, so I'm waiting for a new one.
 
@Rapptz Wow, with GCC this exactly exhibits the mangled instantiation stack I’ve been looking for.
 
lol
 
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@Rapptz Variadics are slightly evil.
 
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1:43 PM
Or, well. Not evil. Mostly greedy.
 
@Rapptz Never not use template<typename...> class.
 
template<class...> typename
 
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template<class...> class // extra classy
 
@LucDanton I'll keep that in mind. Pretty silly. :v
I remember I ran into this issue a year ago or something
 
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Probably.
 
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1:45 PM
I remember something like that from you.
 
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Buahaha is_symbol is proc-ing on an Expression SFINAE for an int in MSVC.
 
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Why would they assume true is a good default?
 
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Why not at least false ?
 
Or all the other possibilities
 
@Rapptz Yes and no. Think of template<typename...> class Alias as template<typename...> using Alias or something. For your error though it’s pretty straightforward that list cannot match template<typename>.
 
1:48 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D We have similar search strategies
 
I'm just making my own mpl::vector thing since I'm sick of using tuple as my poor type list
and I just wanted to generalise it a little more :<
@LucDanton Thinking about it makes sense, I guess.
but template<typename> using Alias makes sense to me too
 
Ya I don’t like special-casing.
 
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Q: detecting typedef at compile time (template metaprogramming)

LiKaoI am currently doing some template metaprogramming. In my case I can handle any "iteratable" type, i.e. any type for which a typedef foo const_iterator exists in the same manner. I was trying to use the new C++11 template metaprogramming for this, however I could not find a method to detect if a ...

 
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Kinky.
 
@Rapptz Remember this was in C++03, i.e. pre-alias templates.
You could possibly create a C++03 program that would break if you liberalized all template template parameters.
 
1:56 PM
@ThePhD old :v
 
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@Rapptz It's all I've got. :c
 
Fucking bug-chasing is burning me out.
 
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Q: How does this code optimize minification?

MarkI saw some code here that had these variable declarations: var equestAnimationFrame = 'equestAnimationFrame', requestAnimationFrame = 'r' + equestAnimationFrame, ancelAnimationFrame = 'ancelAnimationFrame', cancelAnimationFrame = 'c' + ancelAnimationFrame According to a comment on...

amazing
also I learned today that you can't do int x; return alignof(x);
have to do alignof(int) or alignof(decltype(x)) instead
oversight?
 
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Probably.
 
@LucDanton that's not nice
 
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1:59 PM
alignof should behave like sizeof.
 
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And auto-decltype.
 

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