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5:00 PM
@EvgenyPanasyuk I didn't try very hard to read it the assembly output.
 
@BartekBanachewicz so did you mean that Window keeps a queue of messages itself, which it dispatches to callbacks when I process, or that it stops pumping windows' message queue while I'm not processing?
 
@melak47 when you call .process(), it gets the messages from OS queue and fires its callbacks
 
so..it stops pumping
 
@melak47 Sure - the GUI thread is a loop around the message queue wait. If it's in the body of the loop, running your callbacks, it can't be at the top, getting messages!
..unless you do something sucky..
 
isn't that kind of...bad? if for some reason I don't get around to pumping for a little while, my window will be unresponsive
@MartinJames also, what. I don't want to wait for messages?
 
5:08 PM
@melak47 Yes, which is why you don't wait or delay excessvely in GUI event handlers.
@melak47 'I don't want to wait for messages?': don't use a Windows GUI.
 
I'm not
 
@melak47 true
so you want to call that .process rather frequently
now if you don't want another queue, you don't need it
also for some strange reason my WndProc is called before my CreateWindowEx
 
@BartekBanachewicz o.O
 
@BartekBanachewicz You don't have the Will of the D?
 
@StackedCrooked ...
also SetWindowLongPtr is not working
 
5:15 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It's actually a really, really good article.
 
ahahha
> EDIT: Its defiantly the right PID.
except that guy did it by mistake
@DeadMG I'll read it then
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't suppose you would have any idea why the taskbar becomes unresponsive for a little while when my app starts o.O
 
@melak47 nope-ish
 
it recovers after a variable amount of time on it's own, or when I move or resize the window o.O
switching to the window via alt+tab doesn't do it, though
 
Check your message responses.
 
5:20 PM
@CatPlusPlus what message responses?
nothing happens until I move or resize it
meh, now I can't even reproduce it myself
 
Have you guys seen the trailer for GTA 5 yet?
Epicness.
 
eh
it's a trailer
you can make an epic trailer for anyshit.
 
If it's anything like GTA4 it'll be boring as fuck.
 
@CatPlusPlus and run pretty crappy on modern hardware
 
user142019
Hmm.
 
user142019
5:30 PM
Bacon crisps that taste like bacon.
 
@DeadMG Big Rigs?
 
user142019
It's a miracle.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Probably. Just make sure it's pre-rendered.
 
user142019
Meh GTA.
 
user142019
GTA 2 was cool. And San Andreas.
 
5:31 PM
the simple fact is, the gaming media is incredibly untrustworthy
 
GTA2 had no bikes, fuck that game.
 
user142019
So there was Grand Theft Auto: The Ballad of Gay Tony. Hmm.
 
hey guys
what's up
 
user142019
My cockhead.
 
Well, there will be jets to fly around this time as well as helicopters, so I hope its good.
 
5:32 PM
yay found the bug
 
@AshKetchum I flew jets in San Andreas.
 
> Teach pupils to text in a foreign language with our exciting new txt spk resource packs.
 
all I'm saying is that GTA hasn't done anything new or interesting since GTA3
 
vice city was good
 
@DeadMG Swimming!
 
user142019
5:33 PM
Vice City is meh.
 
user142019
San Andreas was quite fun.
 
What new things can they add?
 
@BartekBanachewicz It was GTA3 but in a different city.
 
Deadly water was annoying as fuck.
 
user142019
IV was a disaster.
 
5:34 PM
vice city was much better than san andreas
 
@AshKetchum That's not my problem.
 
@DeadMG and that changed a lot
 
@BartekBanachewicz Except for water.
 
the story was good.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It changed basically nothing.
 
user142019
5:34 PM
@AshKetchum They can remove cheats.
 
@DeadMG it changed the story
 
the stories were virtually identical, and pretty forgettable too
 
Its an open-world game.
 
well I still can't forget story from GTA 4 :/
 
not to mention that nobody plays GTA for the story
 
5:34 PM
ITT overpowered game characters who can't swim
 
@AshKetchum no shit, sherlock
@DeadMG I do
anyway Saint's Row is much better than GTA
 
^So you can't add anything new.
 
I can't forget story from GTA4, because I never managed to play for more than an hour.
 
they play it to steal a car and drive-by policemen and see how long they can avoid the cops
 
@AshKetchum bullshit
 
5:35 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Nico comes to america and...does GTA-ish stuff. that's as much as I remember :S
 
Is GTA's story any good?
 
Other than a new story, what can you add?
 
@kbok No.
 
@BartekBanachewicz this
 
lol, GTA story.
 
5:35 PM
@kbok It's not just not being able to swim. It's more like the Wicked Witch of the West.
 
@AshKetchum in Saints Row you jump the plane with a fucking tank and shoot the jet fighters
 
user142019
@AshKetchum Oculus Rift.
 
user142019
:P
 
@BartekBanachewicz TWICE.
 
@AshKetchum Interesting gameplay.
 
5:36 PM
@AshKetchum Really, not my problem. If Rockstar want my money, they have to come up with something worth paying for. If they can't come up with something worth paying for, that's their problem. I'm happy not buying GTAV.
 
@BartekBanachewicz lets play sometime? :D
 
Well not the first time but it's the tutorial, sorta.
 
SR was cool because it's totally crazy and doesn't take itself seriously.
 
user142019
Minecraft is best video game anyway so who cares about GTA.
 
@rightfold except it's technical mediocre
 
5:36 PM
SR is just all around no-pants fuckery.
 
dude, seriously
 
I for one would have loved it if we could have offline-multiplayer. Imagine that. You have 6 guys on local multiplayer, one game shoots the police officer, everyone has to run because they all have stars now LOL.
 
out of all the video games, ever, you have to pick Minecraft?
 
I'm glad I'm not the only one who liked SR. People gave me strange looks
 
5:37 PM
> offline multiplayer
 
And the cars in SR don't handle like they have an elephant strapped to the front.
 
@kbok gigantic purple dildo anyone?
 
@kbok SR?
 
@ThePhD Saints Row
 
Oh, Saints Row
 
5:37 PM
@ThePhD Saint's Row
 
That game is beyond silly.
 
somehow I am not surprised he doesn't know it.
 
@ThePhD That's why it's cool.
 
anyway, time to watch LOST.
 
no System Shock, no Half-Life, no Enemy Territory, no Total Annihilation or Starcraft, or hell, even Doom or Command and Conquer, or Pong
 
5:38 PM
@ThePhD silly > boring
 
@BartekBanachewicz Poor sod.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yep.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes why? I like the series
 
The best part is that I got it in the THQ pack for like 15$ with other games
 
@BartekBanachewicz What season are you in?
 
5:38 PM
@DeadMG System Shock 2 was a damn masterpiece
@R.MartinhoFernandes 2
 
@BartekBanachewicz Pat pat. Just keep watching, you'll see.
 
@BartekBanachewicz hahahaha, that explains it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I agree.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Then stop at the end of this one
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but I've watched pieces of later seasons. I just want a whole picture
 
5:39 PM
anyway, Minecraft may be an epic fad, and maybe even a genre-spawner, but as a pure game, it's really not that great at all.
 
I want to fucking know what's going on there.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I know that feeling. You'll regret it.
 
No offline multiplayer, WHAT THE HECK?!
 
@BartekBanachewicz There is none. There is no real ending either. Nothing gets explained at all
 
@DeadMG +1, Minicraft.
 
5:39 PM
@BartekBanachewicz You won't, even if you watch all the intervening episodes.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You don't. You want to know a decent explanation for what is going on there. But that is not what is going on there.
 
fuck my life then, I guess.
anyway S2 is still good, so...
cya in 45 minutes.
 
It gets crappy just like Community
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Multiplayer is pretty nice. Also, mods. mods mods and mods
 
Or Star Wars or Matrix or Indiana Jones
 
Xeo
5:41 PM
Or adventure maps
 
int Peek ( );

int Read ( );
 
What do you mean Matrix? They made sequels?
 
^ Signed, or unsigned?
 
Is there a demo for the game out already?
 
Like a scrub I return -1 on error.
 
5:41 PM
@ThePhD What?
 
Is that bad?
 
Should I throw instead?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No.
 
What is even that.
 
5:41 PM
@kbok Eh, I'm still watching Community. I agree that it's kinda gone downhill a bit, but it's not unwatchable, not like Lost.
 
Oh. Uh, context: it's for a reader reading from a streambuf or a stream of some sort.
 
@Xeo Other games have had mods too.
 
@ThePhD Reading what?
ints?
 
@DeadMG Yeah, it's more "less good than before" like HIMYM
 
user142019
@ThePhD int is signed.
 
5:42 PM
It's reading a single byte.
 
user142019
What are you doing?
 
@ThePhD Then why doesn't it return a byte?
 
But I also want to return -1 on error condition.
 
user142019
@ThePhD Return a char or unsigned char, not int.
 
@ThePhD optional<byte> f()?
@ThePhD You suck, hardcore.
 
user142019
5:42 PM
You fool, an integer isn't a byte.
 
Is that bad api design? I guess it is, from what everyone is saying.
 
user142019
You don't return std::string when you want to return a list of zombies, so you don't return int when you want to return a byte.
 
-1 on failure is one of the worst shittiest ideas you could possibly come up with for error handling. It's the kind of thing that makes me feel shitty just by association.
 
JBL
@rightfold zombie inb4 built-in type before the 2030 standard.
 
std:: types are not built-in
 
user142019
5:44 PM
@JBL I think std::weak_ptr should be called std::zombie if all its shared pointers are gone.
 
user142019
@ThePhD optional byte or exception.
 
Hm. Guess I'll just have to do the comparison internally, then.
 
What's wrong with istreambuf_iterator btw?
 
JBL
@kbok What was I thinking... ~~
 
*it is peek, *it++ is read.
 
5:45 PM
did you really just say "What's wrong with an iterator" and "What's wrong with something that has to do with iostreams"?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Uh. There's more functionality than that. I was just wondering what I should be doing for those two functions specifically.
 
@DeadMG It's not like his interface is a great improvement.
 
@DeadMG streambuf iterators are awesome
 
*NULL is pop application
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I agree.
 
5:47 PM
Well, I'm trying to get a better interface.
 
JBL
Fuck it, too many fails in one day, should go right away to sleep @ 8:00pm...
 
user142019
> What's wrong with something that has to do with iostreams?
 
user142019
lol
 
Xeo
Yay, so many anime to watch
 
user142019
Reminds me, I still have to learn how to do file I/O in COBOL.
 
5:49 PM
I suppose I'll fix the stream interface later.
But right now I'm trying to fix the reader/write interface to something better.
 
user142019
Is your interface web scale?
 
I don't have any kind of networking ability.
And I like it that way.
 
FFS where the heck do my iterators get invalidated :'(
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes In your program.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ableism.
@ThePhD But is it at least scale?
 
5:52 PM
@EtiennedeMartel It's whatever scale you need it to be sugar pie. <33
 
@ThePhD How's MLP going?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I haven't started it yet.
 
Am not. D:
 
Are too.
 
5:55 PM
TIL beer != ale
 
I haven't watched it just yet. :c
@kbok Aren't they like, brewed differently?
 
@kbok Ale is a kind of beer.
@ThePhD Lager is another kind of beer.
 
Skipping target "CustomBuildStep" because it has no outputs. :E
 
Oh.
@melak47 Get fucked. :3c
 
@EtiennedeMartel Ah, okay.
 
5:56 PM
Ahahaha a time tracker with achievements.
 
@ThePhD :O
 
 
@kbok The two major categories of beer are lager and ale. The main differences are what kind of yeast is used, and at what temperatures they're fermented.
 
@melak47 Nah, I'm just kidding. Why are you getting that error?
 
@EtiennedeMartel IC. I'm not familiar with english terminology unfortunately
 
Ell
5:59 PM
And there is bitter
 
@Ell It's an ale.
 
Ell
Oh right
 
@EtiennedeMartel pff. The only beer ever needing to be labeled are pale ales, india pale ales, and double india pale ales
 
Ell
I only drink cider, I'm not a real man.
 
The rest is water, or sugar
 

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