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Ell
10:00 PM
I wish I had a payroll.
 
Xeo
Oh well, it's an FF14 problem
 
Ell
I think flash's most recent release is buggy in general
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes wokay then, have an upvote :)
 
Today I made a website for a client and I found that it worked better in IE7 and IE8 than in Firefox.
 
Pro tip: all Flash releases are buggy in general
 
Ell
10:03 PM
the most recent moreso
 
Xeo
> Well, other browsers also have problems. YouTube broke this and (as far as I know) they're working on it to fix this. This problem has nothing to do with the update to Firefox 14.0.1, it's also broken in Firefox 13 (I checked).
Hm
screw whoever then
I wanna watch mah vids :s
 
Ell
meh everythings broken
 
I think Firefox is slowly coming to an end.
 
@sehe What, you hadn't upvoted that yet? Shame on you.
 
Xeo
Atleast disabling html5 beta on youtube orks
 
10:04 PM
@Ell Flash is just as bad as PHP. They are both bugs. HTML5 is better, from my understanding anyway.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey. Don't be mistaken. I gifted you the question itself :)
 
It was awesome, but the last two years or so, Firefox got behind.
 
Ell
Can you do anything in html5 + js that you can do with flash?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I just noticed the OP doesn't exist anymore
 
@Ell not everything, but you can do everything that's actually useful and sane.
 
10:05 PM
@Xeo He made another account with the same name, and then spammed here with drive-by links, and then we never saw him again.
 
Xeo
7k/26k
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh boy
 
Ell
then i suppose it is better. but what about giving your code away, etc.?
 
Xeo
btw, shouldn't we ize the question?
 
Ell
it is difficult to decompile a swf
 
@Ell write sensitive code server side and use AJAX. Problem solved.
 
Xeo
10:07 PM
@RadekSlupik Unless the script is buggy :P
 
@RadekSlupik CSS3. People always forget CSS3.
@RadekSlupik That makes other potential problems though.
 
Ell
Writing code server side doesn't solve the problem
you can run a .swf locally
if all the js is serverside, that sucks a little :L
 
Putting your code on a server and providing an API is the only way of preventing others from getting it.
 
@Ell But, is it that difficult to decompile an swf?
 
Ell
I think so?
isn't it as easy as getting source code from assembly?
 
Xeo
10:08 PM
(Btw robot, that was a question to you)
 
@Ell It's probably some kind of bytecode.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That has got to be my favorite answer on SO.
 
Googling "SWF decompiler" produces lots of results, including ads for commercial products.
 
what would you decompile a swf to?
 
@Xeo Hmm, yeah. I link to it often.
 
Ell
10:09 PM
@DeadMG .fla ? or as source and whatever
 
@DeadMG actionscript I think
 
@DeadMG Resources and ActionScript.
 
ok
 
Decompiling an SWF is possible, decompiling a web app behind an API is not.
 
@DeadMG SFW is just a collector iirc, just like .jar
 
10:10 PM
Assuming no security holes. :P
 
well it is if you give out the source
:P
 
Nothing is secure. A server or account can be breached also.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes done
 
@rubenvb You benchmark IO?
 
Ell
@RadekSlupik but you can't run a serverside reliant js app without teh internetz
 
10:11 PM
@JimNorton Anything with enough time, and computing power.
 
@Ell that is fucking true.
 
Xeo
Wtf is ?
 
Ell
@RadekSlupik for example I use Regexr for my regex testing needs, I couldn't use that offline if it was js + serverside stuff
 
Xeo
10:12 PM
oh. Makes sense
 
@Ell Who the heck lets you run regexes serverside?
Besides Google.
It's a DOS invitation, basically.
 
Write your code in Malbolge and run it in a VM written in JavaScript!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes gskinner.com/RegExr Er... I have no idea what we are talking about.
 
Ell
@RadekSlupik exactly! so how do you protect your regex-reliant js code? :L
 
@Drise That's Flash. That runs on the client.
 
10:14 PM
Regex-reliant JS code?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Fair enough.
 
Regex engines are very easy to exploit for DOSing.
 
Ell
@RadekSlupik like regexr, how would you protect code like that?
 
@Ell precompile? I don't know what you mean.
Every regex that's longer than fifteen characters should be rewritten in a real programming language to be even understandable.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes also pock sucketing big time
 
10:16 PM
Oh yeah, that too.
 
Ell
@RadekSlupik I mean, js code is easy to copy, how do you protect something which can't be put into the server? (for example regex stuff, apparently)
 
@Ell obfuscation.
 
Xeo
I'm afraid for when ckdsk will reach my 10 & 12gig Rebuild of Evangelion movies..
 
@Ell Oh, it can, but it needs more care.
 
Xeo
A regex for validating that the regex isn't harmful!
 
10:18 PM
@Xeo is it still running?
 
No really, any code that runs on an interpreter you have access to (including processors) can be reverse engineered, Flash or not.
 
Xeo
@keith.layne 2TB disk, 1TB filled.
of course it's still running
7.5k/26k files processed
RegException. :D
 
@Xeo Then, just put that check on the engine itself, and pick a non-DOSy strategy for that particular regex.
 
don't be a poophead :)
 
@RadekSlupik Calling obfuscated code is as easy as calling non-obfuscated code.
And obfuscation if done by a machine is, for obvious reasons, not hard to undo.
If done by programmers, then... Shoot the bastards.
 
10:20 PM
> Why is it a memory leak? What could I catch if I shall use such things in C++?
 
Was there something in c++11 about obfuscation?
 
Xeo
 
C++ itself is obfuscated enough.
 
@CatPlusPlus You'd be thouroughly surprised
 
10:20 PM
Jul 14 at 5:58, by Domagoj Pandža
Hello. C write I. Me no know English but good programmer very.
 
@CatPlusPlus In my youth I practically spelled that book from begin to end, several times, studying parts and memorizing them too. Yeah, I was doomed. But I still ended up, fairly well :)
 
Xeo
I get a feeling that chkdsk is indeed currently at one of my 10gig files, it's been sitting at 7555 for a while now
 
Are you looking at a progress bar?
Sounds boring.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yup. Hard impossible to evade though, as a child
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nah, I'm looking at the cmd window telling me that :P
 
Ell
10:28 PM
I remember as a wee little kid watching street wars construction install to 99% then fail :L It crushed me!
 
Xeo
oh, it finished it finally
and is now apparently at the second one
nope nvm, just a small file
I wish they'd show MB_done/MB_total
and not files...
 
Write a wrapper that shows you that.
 
Xeo
the top comments on this one...
@RadekSlupik Maybe there was even a flag to have that shown, whatever
 
@keith.layne Me too /cc @CatPlusPlus
 
sehe is replying to messages that are already a thousand years old.
 
Xeo
10:32 PM
> Abortion jokes are stupid, seriously guys, cut it out.
> Vagina jokes aren't funny... period
> Gay jokes ain't funny, butt fuck it anyway.
> I don't think that vagina jokes are funny, but maybe I'm ovary-acting
 
@keith.layne Hey I'm using linux and the wife and kids are fine with that. I only keep an XP64 VM to run VS2010
 
@sehe I think we might have had this discussion before
 
Yeah I was wondering about that myself, must be true then
 
@sehe What VM software are you using?
 
VirtualBox. Just the easiest IMO
 
10:35 PM
My kids are little and they play "educational" flash games and such, I don't know the current status on linux. I only use it on this netbook.
 
@sehe VirtualBox is awesome. I use on Windows to host Linux... works very well.
 
Xeo
I play way too many Visual Novels to have Linux as my main OS :/
 
@keith.layne I make sure they don't get near flash games. Don't like it. Also, it more or less implies 'online' and they don't need to be online yet, IMO. So, gcompris, mypaint, tuxpaint, stuff like that. Oh and sometimes the Wii
 
I flip back and forth between that and vmware as they compete over features.
 
I use VBox to run OS X in Windows and it works pretty good.
 
10:36 PM
@keith.layne Which features does VBox lack?
 
@sehe I envy that...I was gone for a year and lost control over some stuff.
 
But I usually use VMware to run Windows or Linux in OS X.
 
Um...not sure about vbox...but there's one that didn't do 64bit guests recently, and I needed to test some stuff, so I switched based on that.
 
@sehe not being from Oracle. :P
 
@keith.layne I think I know what you mean there. Yeah, I try not to control freak too much.
@RadekSlupik Meh. It is hardly 'from Oracle' you know. It was InnoTek. SUN bought it. Oracle will probably suck some more moeny and leave it to rot (not being fair here, but hey)
 
Xeo
10:39 PM
@keith.layne I can atleast confirm that Vbox does well with 64bit guests, running Debian 64bit myself on it
 
that must have been my last switch then, back to vbox.
 
@keith.layne But I'm so happy my kids don't crave television (or even care for it at all - they enjoy it, but we can go a week with anyone asking) or the Wii (likewise, we usually go two weeks, and I'll use it as the 'wildcard' so to speak)
 
Xeo
@sehe Fuck television, really.
 
my kids don't see commercials at least, but they're hooked on netflix
 
@Xeo Pervert.
 
10:40 PM
@Xeo Yup. I have a 64 bit guest and I used to run it on 32bit Linux. Kept on working unmodified (but probably faster) when I switched to 64bit linux
 
I only watch the news in the morning and that's it. :P
 
so's my wife. I hardly watch anything except during football season.
 
@Xeo You mean, use reddit, YT?
 
When I live on my own I won't even bother buying a TV.
 
@keith.layne What's netflix
 
10:41 PM
yeah, right
 
Xeo
@sehe Yeah, running it on 32bit Windows. With an underlying 64bit CPU, of course
 
@keith.layne Oh online television
 
Xeo
yay, 16k/26k
 
@Drise: k, I got ideone.com/y4VHD to run on my machine without spaces (FILE=file.libr#a b) Unfortunately, due to passing around the handler functions and other limitions, it kinda stopped being pretty. A lexer/parser would have been the way to go.
 
Why would you run 32-bit Windows on a 64-bit machine?
 
10:42 PM
somewhere a while back I read that like 30% of the bandwidth in america was used by netflix
 
Xeo
@RadekSlupik because 2gig ram and I had no 64bit installer handy
so no real need for 64bit
 
Download the installer! :P
 
Well, I bought myself a very very nice and expensive media centre PC. Supposed to run my music collection and TV tuners. The only it comes in handy for is as a "TiVo": we can use it to run shows from educational series on demand after recording them.
We have a backlog of some dozens by now. Last week, I skipped one that was themed for the European Football championship ... :)
@RadekSlupik (a) because you save 10Gb on a bare install (Win7-32: 20Gb, Win7-64: 30Gb) and the memory usage is about 1.3x on 64 bit as well
 
I used to run a mythtv box, that was great too, but now all I have is OTA tv with weak signal
and my hdhomerun died
 
Windows is 20 GB??!
 
10:45 PM
@RadekSlupik 30Gb, FTFY. Yeah fuck that. It doesn't come near my SSD for that obvious reason
 
I loved then that I could skip the commercials
 
Xeo
@sehe ugh, 30gig? My SSD only has 60 :(
 
30GB is half my SSD at work.
 
@Xeo Mine too. I have two, though, one has been in my work PC for a while now, to make my life bearable
 
Xeo
My PC only has the SSD
 
10:46 PM
Time to install Gentoo or OS X at work…
 
Xeo
and my external HDD
that's all I use xD
 
My barebones Win 7 Ult install is less than 20 GB on my 64GB SSD.
 
heh, you know something is wrong when your error messages still linewrap is 1pt fonts
 
@MooingDuck you are using GCC and templates?
 
@Xeo Used to have, but I got fed up with running VMs over iSCSI and migrated to an eSata drive when I changed my fileserver from OpenSolaris to Debian (Fuck Oracle).
 
Ell
10:47 PM
how can windows be so big? when it fit on like, 20mb a decade ago?
 
@RadekSlupik this was a java error
 
@MooingDuck Owwwwwch.
 
Ell
what have they added that takes up so much space?
 
@MooingDuck oh yeah I know those.
 
@Ell because it now has, what? 8 different APIs you can use?
 
10:47 PM
@Ell Moore's Law, of course
 
@Ell 7 more versions of windows
 
a decade is forever
 
@Ell Mainly, WinSxS
 
@Ell corruption! They get money from hard drive companies. :P
 
Xeo
@sehe Well, I run everything on my external HDD, that's why I'm especially scared that something happens to it
 
10:47 PM
@MooingDuck Truth in that too. They keep compatibility. And all kinds of runtime versions.
 
Xeo
All my code, all my docs (I back those up on my USB stick, but that's it), all my games, tons of other stuff...
 
Is Gentoo really as difficult to install as people claim it to be?
 
@Xeo No backups?
 
Xeo
@Mysticial No money for a backup disk :(
 
Ell
also what server OS can run with 256mb of ram?
 
Xeo
10:48 PM
Since that one would need to be 2TB too
 
@Ell iOS, Android. :P
 
@RadekSlupik not as bad as before, apparently
 
Oh server OS.
 
ask Martinho
 
Data is something that I would have at least 1 backup at all costs. The consequences of losing it are... well... costly
 
10:49 PM
@Ell Linuxen
 
@sehe You exaggerate. WinSxS is only half of it! :-)
 
Xeo
@Mysticial They'd be pretty devastating to me
 
@JerryCoffin Good one
 
The only data I care about is on GitHub.
All other data I can wipe my ass off with.
 
Xeo
Since literally all of my stuff is on that HDD
not that I'm actively trying to keep it safe, carrying it around day after day in my bag...
 
10:50 PM
@Mysticial No... just takes time. The documentation is very good.
 
Ell
@sehe which one? ubuntu needs like 512 for reccomended or something. I think debian is possible but i really thought there would be something that could run on 128mb while still being user friendly
 
@EtiennedeMartel yes. Perforce slowed my computer to a crawl yesteray an then crashed when I tried to compare a folder.
 
@RadekSlupik Wait till you start making family pictures. Yeah, 'ver van mijn bed'
 
@Xeo Then you better get a backup for it...
 
My pr0n collection is in an AES-256 encrypted disk image with a 30 character password. :P
 
Xeo
10:51 PM
@RadekSlupik Why would you encrypt your porn collection, unless it's child porn?
 
@sehe I'll put them on Facebook. Back-up problem solved.
 
@sehe Yeah... Anime is one thing - it might take half a year to DL it all again, but family photos... it's gone, it's gone...
 
@Ell Just use distrowatch.com, puppy linux, tiny linux, knoppix, etc. should all be game
 
@Eli you could try Lubuntu.
 
@RadekSlupik Ahuh. Privacy much?
 
Ell
10:51 PM
besides a deadlock, or infinite recursion or something which is inherently not able to finish, when the computer "freezes" will it eventually wake up?
 
@Xeo No, I still live with my parents. :P
 
Xeo
@RadekSlupik And you let them at your PC?
 
@Xeo do I know what they do if I'm not home.
 
Xeo
put a password on your user acc, done
 
@Mysticial Same thing with my music collection (I'd rip it again from source media, but I still have it all in offsite backup in 320kbps. Of course the fileserver has it all in flac).
 
10:53 PM
My home folder is not encrypted. Anyone could take the hard drive out and mount it on a different machine.
 
Xeo
If they're sophisticated enough to take out your HDD, well, you need to talk a word or two with them
 
Ell
can't you just use a windows box to access it then?
 
Xeo
about privacy
also
Owning porn is normal
 
@Ell sometimes
 
Xeo
for most, anyways
 
10:54 PM
I know a guy who has a hard drive shredder. “Just in case the police comes a long,” he said. I have no idea what he is storing on it, and I don't want to know. xD
 
@Xeo Now, I used to keep porn. Nowadays, I can be arsed. The web is full of it. And it gets old
 
Xeo
@RadekSlupik Sounds dangerous.
 
@Xeo guess what his start page is in Chrome.
 
Xeo
@sehe Indeed, I don't have any "porn" on my HDD either. Only Doujinshi. :)
@RadekSlupik about:blank ?
 
and hentai?
 
10:55 PM
@Xeo /b/
 
Ell
ecchi yuri FTW :L
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Nah, I don't like Hentai Videos
@RadekSlupik lol
 
Facebook is the best porn site.
 
Xeo
If I can imagine what he might be storing, is that bad?
 
Ell
my ex used to be a bit weirded out that "cartoons turned me on"
@radek hehe
trudat
 
10:56 PM
@Xeo No. That's common sense
 
Oh yeah that's why I encrypted it. I didn't wan't my friends to see it. They often use my computer.
 
Xeo
@RadekSlupik Err...
Friends should be especially fine knowing you're storing porn
I really wonder why everyone is so ashamed that they watch / own porn, really.
(I know I said "really" twice there)
 
Really?
 
@Xeo Well from his recent affidations I infer that he might have the type of friends that you don't actually bond with so closely?
 
Xeo
Don't throw such complicated words at me! opens dict.cc
 
10:58 PM
@RadekSlupik Ok, you must be surprised about the twice-'really' thing there
 
I'm working on a social networking site called O(n), and I have zero friends. :(
 
At least you can say you are a user, and nobody minds your habit
Have a star.
 
O(0) complexity!
 
Xeo
@sehe Okay, I really can't find the meaning of "affidations"
 

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