« first day (1677 days earlier)      last day (3272 days later) » 

8:01 PM
It's pretty good, eh?
I started a new town recently because a new version of Colonial Charter came out.
 
@CosminIovan Advertise the job you want done, and (hope that) people bid to do it for you.
 
I've been playin some RimWorld
 
Ell
I think they ported it to opengl recently, so maybe a linux port could be in the works
I tried dwarf fortress but I don't have the time/effort to learn it really
I just tried to plug my calculator into my phone charger
 
user1804599
this guy is crazy
 
8:05 PM
> The first item in the collection, which is located at index 0, specifies the length of a dash; the second item, which is located at index 1, specifies the length of a gap. Objects with an even index value specify dashes; objects with an odd index value specify gaps.
Wait, so. Is zero even or odd...?
Oh, wait.
It's even.
I'm dummbmb.
 
Ell
dumbomb
 
so i just discovered docs.gl
 
Ell
sounds like a zelda object
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :(
 
8:06 PM
so much better than the khronos site
 
Ell
@Prismatic why?
I like the khronos site better
index on the left
docs on the right
 
Because you can easily pick the API
 
and a DARK mode
 
Probably better because it's categorised not alphabetical
 
Ell
8:08 PM
oh yeah
that's handy
 
user1804599
how to do integration testing help
 
@EtiennedeMartel I had a math teacher once who literally told us "zero is neither even nor odd"
 
user1804599
or rather, how do you decide what to integration test
 
Zero oddity
 
Ell
I forgot what the definition of even is
 
8:10 PM
Divisible by 2 you butt
 
Ell
meh
 
Divisible by two, or zero
Duh
 
Zero is divisible by two too :v
 
Ell
I feel like you can't divide zero into anything
I know you can and the answer is 0
but you can't split 0 cakes into anything
 
Well, not by 0
 
8:11 PM
@Eli yes you can, two groups of 0
 
You can divide zero by two.
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol I saw that ninja edit
 
user1804599
Not allowing zero to be divided is an invented special case that has no benefits.
 
Your French is showing
 
@Brian Ssshhh
@R.MartinhoFernandes Enfer et damnation.
 
Ell
8:11 PM
I'm just saying intuitively :P
 
Make blogues about dividing zero
 
user1804599
It's a bit like returning null instead of the empty list from getAllInvoices when there are no invoices.
 
@rightfold: cringe
 
Ell
I know that in maths you can
 
Math, not even once
 
8:12 PM
@Ell If you have zero cakes, and need to divide the cakes evenly among three people, each of those three people gets exactly the same amount: none.
 
@khajvah - Please do not harass people providing a good faith effort to answer questions. This is unhelpful and counterproductive: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/255861/19679Brad Larson ♦ 49 mins ago
wtf
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin yeah I guess
 
If you have one cake, and need to divide it evenly among three people, you eat it and pretend you never had any
 
@JerryCoffin They get no cake but a lot of disappointment.
 
user3010322
My sort is soooooooo bad.
 
user3010322
8:13 PM
Oh god.
 
user3010322
This is gonna be great.
 
user3010322
SUBMITTING NOOOW.
 
Speaking of GL, is there caniuse.com kind of thing for it
 
I ate all the cookies
 
user3010322
Yes.
 
8:13 PM
@EtiennedeMartel The cake is a lie anyway (SCNR).
 
user3010322
For Webbrowsers.
 
@khajvah Have my DCV on that one.
 
@ThePhD Yeah no really
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Careful there, you might become fat.
 
@CatPlusPlus You mean like the OpenGL Extensions Viewer?
 
8:14 PM
@MartinJames oh thanks
 
I am infatable
 
I guess usage stats/hardware support more
 
Also I'm cycling 500km; I can eat all the cookies I want.
 
I don't know any other stats database than Steam but that's kinda skewed
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, sure - you ate all your food this morning.
 
8:15 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes How dare you write a word that's so similar to another word.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Give it time
Time makes everything fat
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes that is a long way
 
IIRC, starvation works as a weight-loss diet.
 
@Ell Pfft, it's peanuts to space.
 
It works as everything-loss diet
 
Ell
8:16 PM
eating less is the easiest way to lose weight
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Bla bla bla long way down the road to the chemist's bla bla bla
 
@Cat I exercise regularly. I don't expect to become fat any time soon. Actually, people usually worry that I'm thin.
Imposing their fat privilege on me
 
Horrendous.
 
You're the only skinny guy I've seen here.
Not that I care about everyone's weight
 
8:20 PM
Yes
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I should do that
 
Ell
I imagine @EtiennedeMartel is slim
for some reason
 
@Ell I would say I'm at a correct weight according to my height.
 
I'm getting dangerously close to 100 kg again, want to stay under.
 
I dunno my height nor my weight.
 
8:22 PM
Fat freezes away in Canada
 
Ell
I am overweight
 
Actually iirc LRiO is normal weight too.
 
Ell
oh yeah he is
 
I should exercise more, though.
 
Ell
I should definitely
I should eat less
 
8:23 PM
I didn't exercise today. Well, unless you count climbing to Kaufland to buy commies
Thank you, autocorrect
 
Ell
I walked to the shop to buy a cucumber
that is all
 
I should exercise more and eat more
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see you're still in Eastern Europe.
 
Er.
How is Czech Republic in Eastern Europe and Berlin isn't?
Fucking merkins
 
Berlin is half in Eastern Europe.
 
8:25 PM
I live on the Eastern side
According to the nearby Wall markings
 
You communist scum.
 
Reminds me of Monster.
top tier animu
 
I meant cookies, not commies!
 
I know what you meant
But it's not as funny
 
opengl buffer orphaning sounds so weird
 
8:26 PM
That climb was actually tough.
But the way down was so much fun
 
Will someone think of the buffers
 
When I was in Norway I climbed on top of a hill called Løvstakken.
 
Were you mistakken
 
It was 477 meters high, and windy as shit at the top.
Great view, though.
 
You went to Norway and you already think you know all about European geography, huh?
 
8:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think I know a bit about the mountains of Bergen.
 
would any of you climb everest given the chance
 
Typical merkin
 
What does "given the chance" mean here?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey, just because Tomalak isn't here, doesn't mean you have to compensate.
 
8:29 PM
It's not closed down.
 
You have to prove your worth first by completing a bunch of quests to increase your reputation with that faction.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "You've just won a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to climb Mt. Everest, all expenses paid!"
 
We were fishing and got bored once. Then we picked a mountain we saw and said lets climb it, the hike and the climb took 23 hours. We did not bring any food.
 
Sounds perfect!
 
I remember when we came back to the tent dad was up waiting for us with sandwiches, they tasted good.
 
user3010322
8:31 PM
@CatPlusPlus Steam stats are all I know: you'd have to ask something like the actual hardware sellers and PC vendors to get a better usage state, I think.
 
Or crazy as some wußes here will say
 
@JohanLarsson Did you have water at least?
 
user3010322
Exam finished. Now I can read all those suggestions people made earlier.
 
@Prismatic Np drinking from the streams in the mountains.
 
8:31 PM
Hardware is not as relevant as drivers installed, I'd say
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes wuSSes eh
 
I like "wußes"
 
wub wub
 
Settings>Language & Input>Personal Dictionary> replace ss with ß, please and thank you android
 
8:33 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't be so kraß
 
I keep reading that as a B, despite knowing full well it's uppercase ss.
 
lol
It's lowercase
 
WHAT
Fuck Germany's favorite brand of sausage.
 
Typical merkin
:P
 
you lose your european points you got when you became all QC separatist-y. now you're just a normal canadian.
2
 
8:34 PM
Is it a relatively new letter
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Typical brazilian.
 
ßuttß
 
I remember there being something about replacing street signs that had 'ss' with ß
 
@Etienne hey not my fault that you keep hitting the stereotypes :D
 
Also, I'm not even American.
 
8:37 PM
is there some `define` in boost that allows one .cpp file to compile all required source files?

#define BOOST_THIS_IS_BOOST_SOURCE_FILE
#include <boost/ ....>
#include <boost/ ....>
#include <boost/ ....>

... and then it would auotmatically include all needed source files?
compiling libraries for every possible configuration combination is really space and time consuming
 
Aren't you from the 52nd state?
 
What's the 51st?
 
Thought that was why you wanted independence
 
@Gizmo lol no
 
> C++ string classes are supposed to let you pretend that strings are first-class data. They try to abstract away the fact that strings are hard and let you act as if they were as easy as integers. [...] Amusingly, the history of the evolution of C++ over time can be described as a history of trying to plug the leaks in the string abstraction.
 
8:37 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Australia
 
@Etienne Canada
 
Why would I want to be a part of a place with crappy healthcare?
 
Because FREEDOM
 
luckily there is a utility for extracting all needed header & source files :x at least we have that
 
Quebec prides itself as the most European place in North America.
 
8:38 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Dunno, ask your prime minister. (☞゚ヮ゚)☞
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, they're the wurst.
 
@Gizmo uh. That's what building boost does, effectively
 
Which implies we're the most racist.
Not sure I like that.
 
Yeah it's like the only city in North America that has a wall, I think.
 
Just build boost. Presto.
 
8:39 PM
@Jeremy A lot of things can be described a lot of ways--but most of those descriptions are pretty close to nonsense.
 
@JerryCoffin It's from Joel's blog post about leaky abstractions. I'm not sure I agree, but it's amusing, anyway.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'just'... just.. if you give me a single 1 PetaHertz core, a 2TB raid 10 SSD, sure
 
@Jeremy Yes, I recognize it.
 
Wtf.
If you cannot build boost, you can't do what you suggested
It's the same fucking thing.
 
There's literally two configurations you need Boost in: debug and release
And maybe not even that
 
8:41 PM
Just build it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You don’t understand. We’d rather build it!
 
Every timeeee
 
@Gizmo wat
 
@Griwes I think that's intended as a complaint about the time/resources that go into building Boost.
 
Ugh if I rename a class I just know every goddamn prefab will break
 
8:42 PM
@JerryCoffin Oh come on, a mediocre PC can build Boost in no time.
 
ok so please tell me the time, and list your specs' that took you to build all possible configurations of all possible boost libraries that require source.. :/ static, dynamic, debug, release, etc etc
 
@Gizmo lol
 
You don't need all possible ones
 
are you even reading man
 
You literally asked if it would be possible to build boost in a weird way. Yes, it is possible. The only difference, though, is that you build it in a weird way
 
8:43 PM
Do you also want to build all possible archs? lol
 
Debug, release
Everything else is multithreaded/shared runtime library/shared library
 
hi
again
 
Also, who cares about the time? It's a one-time cost.
 
You don't pick anything else unless you really know you need it (you don't)
 
static-release
static-debug
dynamic-release
dynamic-debug yeah, takes hell alot of time :P so every time someone sends me a project and it's configured for Y and I have only X, I need to go back, recompile with the needed options -,-'
 
8:44 PM
Exactly.
Fucking run it overnight.
 
Don't build static ones
 
or reconfigure the project and hear them complain that git changed their vs projectsettings
 
@Gizmo so you are just bad at this thing
 
What you suggest wouldn't alleviate that
 
Or maybe take time to make the project configurable in a better way
 
8:45 PM
Because what you suggested was building boost
 
If someone's using static builds of Boost they probably don't know what they're doing
And if they do you wouldn't be having these problems because competent people know how to do this shit
In summary PEBKAC
 
user1804599
Cat would you rather use COBOL or Ruby?
 
COBOL is a bit more hipsterish.
So COBOL obv
 
Why would you not build the code into your own application, but as a dll? I know dll allows for hotfixes without recompiling the whole application.. but besides that, why not use static?
 
8:47 PM
that's it
the other issue is licensing
 
user1804599
I wrote two COBOL programs in my life and both were video games.
 
Some parts of Boost straight up don't work when built statically
 
@CatPlusPlus which ones? I use quite a few in one of my projects and it's a static project
 
Boost.Python and Serialization afair
 
I've never built boost dynamically
 
8:49 PM
Will keep those in mind, thanks
 
(static linking is dumb, dont)
 
Ell
I've never build boost statically
 
@CatPlusPlus doesn't it allow the compiler andl inker to optimize all the code better for your specific application?
 
We static link everything at work.
 
You're complaining about build times yet you pick linking mode that wastes time on processing vendor code over and over again
@Gizmo It doesn't matter
 
8:50 PM
I'm going to ßleep. Good night.
 
@CatPlusPlus what about whole program optimization where all functions are expanded into one big function?
 
ßweet dreamß
 
@CatPlusPlus static linking is the best for cross platform dev
just build a giant blob and call it a day
 
you can static link boost serialization
 
@Gizmo lol that's not how that works
 
8:51 PM
too lazy to try boost python
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't know how any of this works, I'm just asking random questions, I'm bored
 
I don't have python dev libs
 
ideally every OS would have a perfect package manager that would resolve all dependencies and you'd never have to bother with static linking
 
@Rapptz On Coliru you can add /usr/local/lib/libboost_serialization.a to the command line :)
 
@Rapptz afair it makes your executable export shit like a DLL and also maybe some other issues
 
8:52 PM
but Windows
 
@Prismatic There's only very specific things that need to be statically linked like that
 
@rightfold Interesting talk. meh, now I want to refactor a lot of code. :/
 
libgcc for one
 
user1804599
@khajvah excellent.
 
user1804599
You have been converted.
 
8:53 PM
Anyway fuck C++
Gotta finish this dumb UI
 
@rightfold that kind of architecture will make web dev not web dev-y
 
user1804599
Web is bad.
 
the best thing I liked is that you can throw away the web part and still have your application
 
@CatPlusPlus what ui technology? web?
 
8:56 PM
@StackedCrooked fok julle naaiers
 
but.. sometimes compiling a library statically is better... kuch kuch QT. wanna ship 50MB of dll's? and use only 500KB of that code in that dll? fine. go dynamic. xD
 
Except Qt is LGPL - checkmate
 
@JohanLarsson Unity
@khajvah What talk
 
@CatPlusPlus this
 
9:03 PM
lol rubby
 
nah, it's not about rubby
 
So what's the architecture
oh god that guy
 
is he famous or what?
:)
good night people
 
I'm bored with that already
 
I don't think he is boring at all
 
9:09 PM
@khajvah Good night.
 
@khajvah Sweet dreams.
 
Ell
well well...
 
@Gizmo It's 10MB last time I checked (which is about 3 years ago). QtGui4.dll was 8.2MB and QtCore4.dll was 2.3MB.
 
@khajvah Uncle Bob? Yeah
 
Never tried to run it on Windows 8 actually. Hope it still works.
 
9:23 PM
@Gizmo Trimming unused code is not that easy
Also it doesn't matter
 
yay Juventus won
 
I think people have managed to make the bare minimum for Qt5 pretty small
since people deploy it with apps on ios and android
 
9:42 PM
i wonder if theres a QT-style framework powered by a web engine
like a mini browser
 
Ell
hmm I need to fuzzy search a string in a big file
 
@nick cef?
 
user1804599
       environment division.
       input-output section.
       file-control.
           select input-fd
               assign to dynamic input-filename
               organization is line sequential.
 
user1804599
Best code I've ever written.
 
@Prismatic nice
 
9:47 PM
@rightfold what lang
its so readable
 
user1804599
COBOL.
 
user1804599
accept input-filename from command-line :3
 
Oh, COBOL actually is readable, once you drop all the uppercase letters.
 
user1804599
Case-insensitivity is nice.
 
user1804599
It allows you to nicely use APIs created by morons who don't get acronyms right and name things JsonParser instead of JSONParser and HttpRequest instead of HTTPRequest.
 
Ell
9:56 PM
json_parser is fine
 
user1804599
Yes, but JsonParser burns my eyes.
 
JsonParser is fine
 
Ell
jsonpArseR
 
user1804599
Tomorrow I'll attempt to use libyaml from COBOL.
 
user1804599
It will be a refreshing experience.
 
Ell
9:58 PM
rammstein sound horrible
 
in WPF, 8 mins ago, by Reed Copsey
btw - gotta love this https://github.com/dotnet/wcf/pull/21/files
 

« first day (1677 days earlier)      last day (3272 days later) »