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user1804599
2:00 PM
Because concurrency is one of the few fun things you can do.
 
Your specific stuff aside
 
@MartinJames s/if/when/? :P
 
@AlexM. Yeah:)
 
@AlexM. nothing, move on to the next batch and do something else. This year all of them signed up for the next year (and took the test) and we did JS which was ok-ish.
 
Xeo
2:00 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Who told you UIs are fun?
 
I'm so terrible for reading that as restricted isoperimetric property
 
UIs are bad
 
the program that my classmates back in the day enjoyed the most
was this thing I wrote that simulated spying on professors
 
@Xeo they're not fun for us. They're fun for first timers, we see them as messy trivial and boring - they see them as challenging and getting results first.
 
they all took it on pen drives for some reason I was baffled
 
2:01 PM
They can show their dad their android app full with pride, they can actually get shit done.
 
because it was so silly and pointless
 
Xeo
@BenjaminGruenbaum UI and trivial? Wow, teach me sensei!
 
user1804599
#asaincepe – Police find 1,000 stolen eggs in man’s fridge - for personal consumption http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/19/police-find-1000-stolen-eggs-in-mans-fridge-for-personal-consumption-5205353/
 
user1804599
Oh, Metro has a new web design.
 
@Xeo compared to other kinds of code? It's just boring placing stuff and hooking things with an architecture. Not really sure why that'd be challenging - there are challenging aspects but most people who do UI never come close to them.
 
user1804599
2:03 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Android Pride World Wide
 
I don't see what you guys find challenging in GUIs :\
drag a button onto a form
 
@rightfold you do see my point though, right?
 
double click on it
MessageBox.Show("I got clicked!");
 
user1804599
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yes, and I agree.
 
depends on the GUI I guess
 
2:03 PM
ez for kids
 
user1804599
Even if only so that they can do the UI so I don't have to.
 
@AlexM. but but... it needs to be structured and layered and SoC'd and so on :P To be fair a ton of people get UI wrong but it's ok to get it wrong if you get things done.
 
our GUI is not trivial
 
just let the kids have fun lol
 
Ell
android is terrible
 
user1804599
2:04 PM
@AndyProwl Was it something with X-rays?
 
@AndyProwl Right, but basic ui is.
 
user1804599
Or was that jalf?
 
they're not going to be excited to learn programming if you go at them with this bible about how to do programming right
 
@Ell but all the things that bother you about it don't bother them :)
 
"Hello Mr. Benjamin, I heard that Minecraft was programmed in Java, can we try some Java maybe?"
 
2:05 PM
@Ell why so ?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum True that, but everything tends to be trivial as long as it's basic
 
"NO JAVA IS SATAN'S LANGUAGE IT'S THE BIGGEST CRAP KILL IT"
 
@AndyProwl GUI < CLI
 
How do you even display an image with a CLI
 
@AndyProwl but GUI is trivial amongst the things you can show your parents and classmates that you built.
 
2:06 PM
@AndyProwl vOv give them a path to a file to open up
 
That doesn't work for everything
 
what if you have to display a live image?
 
@AndyProwl XY problem :P you don't need to show such things
not really
 
@rightfold We don't work with X-rays, it was probably someone else
@thecoshman How do you know? We do need to show live images of what happens in a microscope chamber
 
2:08 PM
XY-rays
 
hahaha
 
@AndyProwl ascii art, noob.
 
user1804599
Which language is the best for starting learning programming with depends on the person in question and on what they want to make.
 
@AndyProwl ascii animation
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl open window with just that image and a close button.
 
2:09 PM
You guys are evil
 
@rightfold Sounds graphical to me..
 
@AndyProwl bah
 
I see what your point is but we're generalizing too much
 
user1804599
@buttifulbuttefly You have a hedge fund? Nice.
 
GUIs can be very useful
and also non-trivial
 
2:11 PM
Our GUI is non-trivial and it's a horrid mess
 
@AndyProwl Unfortunately there's the 'GUI is just dragging buttons onto a form' cargo-cult from command-line developers.
 
@AndyProwl wow - that's so sexist
@AndyProwl lounge always generalizes too much
 
user1804599
@sehe NOT ALWAYS
 
good job, WTP'--
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's not usually because of the GUI framework itself, it's often because the GUI designer was actually clueless re. customer requirements.
 
user1804599
2:13 PM
@sehe Don't call me that. :(
 
@MartinJames I think they might not use a framework
 
@sehe Oh... :(
 
user3790646
win32 is nuts!!!
 
user3790646
xD
 
@sehe E_SEHE_TOO_CRYPTOGRAPHY
 
2:14 PM
ECKSDEE!!
 
I surely don't think they use win32 either. But I might be wrong on that
@buttifulbuttefly xD
 
Well, thanks for the adevice
 
user3790646
there should be a way to subclass wndprocs...
 
user1804599
Why would you use HDMI instead of VGA when your display is 1080p?
 
2:16 PM
@sehe nice
 
user1804599
Does HDMI support higher frame rates?
 
user1804599
I see.
 
with vga you'll get 30 fps maybe
 
because there are artifacts involving VGA at high res
 
Ell
2:16 PM
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Q: wire gauge for solderless lithium batteries in series?

ufomoraceI am making a prototype lithium battery of 2kw / 40 amps. it's 8p14s, and every bank of 8 parallel is joined with copper sheet in solderless contacts. I have bought some 0.1mm thick copper sheet and i have measured that it can be maximum 70mm of trace width to carry the current. It is too thi...

 
@AndyProwl To compare one's sister to her pussy is a pretty grotesque pars-pro-toto
 
Ell
I hope he videos this
 
user1804599
@AlexM. never noticed them.
 
me neither, until I noticed the difference when switching to DVI
 
@sehe How on Earth was I supposed to decode that?
 
2:17 PM
you can configure your OS to use vga on 1080 though
but it won't run at 50/60 hz
 
@AndyProwl If you kow me, it becomes rather predictable
 
I'm bad at sehe
 
@Ell inb4 'Massive fire out of control at battery factory'
 
Ell
@AndyProwl framebuffer device :P
 
I think DVI is still the nicest option for monitors
 
Ell
2:18 PM
@AlexM. DisplayPort is the best
 
or that, though DVI is still more widespread
 
My screens only have DVI and DP
 
I'd never use HDMI on my monitor, HDMI can't do 144Hz without some new revision that I'm not sure is released yet and I'm not sure I have it
 
user3790646
I played Skyrim on VGA for one year, then I put HDMI on the screen, oh my, it was so amusing!
 
DVI can do 144 just fine tho
 
Ell
2:20 PM
DisplayPort can do 1440 just fine
it can do 4k also
and with audio if that's your thing
 
I know
 
Ell
but yeah hdmi is bad
in comparison
to dvi
 
it's good for movies I guess
TVs I mean
 
Ell
hdmi?
because of hdcp?
 
all home cinema systems have HDMI support
whatever you buy for your TV chances are it has HDMI support
 
Ell
2:22 PM
I wish I could understand this i.imgur.com/c9FGgCl.png
 
> "My salary was $70/m. My wife was working so I felt very bad. I asked her to give me some time. CS would be very big, I told her"
 
user3790646
this is obvious
 
lmao 70 :\
 
user3790646
it's a blueprint!
 
user3790646
wait, it isn't
 
2:23 PM
even for CS back in the day it seems too low
 
@AlexM. per minute?
 
@buttifulbuttefly month
 
oooooooooooooh
 
esports only turned really big for players recently
 
how did i not think of that!!!!
 
Ell
2:24 PM
I wonder if I could even solder a chip like this at home
 
some asian moba players get like $1mil per tournament
 
user1804599
 
Latest on Amazon Kindle PC reader: using scroll wheel on library page either does nothing or AV's. What a pile of utter shit.
 
CS is still lagging behind
@khajvah he's polish
 
EE is boring
 
2:25 PM
The International is an annual electronic sports Dota 2 championship tournament hosted by Valve Corporation, the game's developer. Sixteen teams are given invitations to compete in the tournament. The first tournament was held shortly after the full release of Dota 2 in August 2011 at Gamescom, with a total prize pot of $1.6 million and a grand prize of one million dollars. == Tournament history == === The International 2011 === Valve announced the first edition of The International on August 1, 2011. 16 teams were invited to compete in the tournament, which would also serve as the firs...
 
he probably took his old salary in polish currency
and did a conversion to $$$
anyway the guy is OK now, especially since some rich guy from dubai donated $30k to him on his stream
and keeps on donating
 
Current prize pool : $8,608,756 dota2.com/international/compendium
 
@buttifulbuttefly meh, read my mind
 
@Ell It's a ball array so, unless you have some serious soldering equipment, no.
 
@SeçkinSavaşçı This is the major problem of free market economy
 
Ell
2:27 PM
@MartinJames I saw some guy doing it on youtube with a toaster oven and some carefully placed solder paste :P
 
some gamers earning more money than doctors
 
Ell
oh no he used a griddle
 
@Ell Did he demonstrate the chip actually working afterwards?
 
Ell
@MartinJames hmm not sure :P
 
a doctor in pakistan earns less than 70$ a month
 
2:28 PM
but some dota players earn millions, fuck this world
 
I don't want to work
I feel like doing something brainless
damn it
 
@AndyProwl play dota
 
Nah, I need to fight this
it's just the consequence of not obtaining results
 
user1804599
I should make millc optimise !a && !b to !(a || b).
 
@AndyProwl play dota
 
2:30 PM
Made a few wrong decisions some time ago
 
make a new one so the others feel not so wrong
play dota
 
lol 'Please help me send spam': stackoverflow.com/questions/30352532/…
 
I shall not play
 
Ell
yep I think the chip did work vOv
 
YOU SHALL NOT PASS
 
2:31 PM
I shall make this shit workz
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl The Workplace
 
Rain is stopping but it's almost 5pm.
 
@rightfold lol, I'm saving that for later:)
 
my top answer on workplace.se is a lie
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A: How do I stay awake during work without the use of coffee?

Alex M.The best long term solution is to try getting enough sleep. It's the healthiest way to be productive and realize caffeine doesn't necessarily give you the productivity boost you'd get after a good night's sleep. Is your schedule so full that you cannot get at least 6 to 8 (though this number can...

 
user1804599
@MartinJames lots of stuff here: area51.stackexchange.com/?tab=launched
 
2:34 PM
well it's not a lie
 
(YT comments never fail to deliver)
 
it's just that I do not follow my advice
 
@rightfold lol, I've been in there and was nearly captured. Not risking it again:)
 
@AlexM. lol
 
I'm basically the opposite of everything I said there
but hey
I know what people wanna hear
and I guess it's good advice regardless
 
2:36 PM
you are a shrink
 
no I'm an enlarge
 
you know the way some cli programs tend to have a 'final' 'argument' that is a double dash, and then you treat the rest as 'just things to run'... what do you call all that? like the way you might do git add [options] -- file1 file2 file2
 
Double dash
 
user1804599
double--dash
 
I mean, what do you call those 'things' after the double dash?
 
user1804599
2:42 PM
I have a weird grammar to parse.
 
> For white hat hackers interested in offensive hacking techniques in a legitimate scenarios, analysis of malicious code
suuuuuuuuure
 
the things before are actual options/flags that control the way the program runs, but those after the double dash are like 'pure data' arguments.
 
user1804599
foo ::= a? b? c? 'end' X
a ::= 'a' ...
b ::= 'b' ...
c ::= 'c' ...
 
user1804599
Where X must be 'a', 'b' or 'c' depending on the first of the three that occurs.
 
user1804599
So a 1 b 2 end a and c 1 end c.
 
2:45 PM
@SeçkinSavaşçı look
 
user1804599
I want Stack Overflow in Dutch.
 
@khajvah Very old story. It's a shame actually.
 
@rightfold you're right, evry weird grammar :\
 
Almost every Dutch person speaks English. what's the point
 
Turkish SO is one of the earliest proposals there.
Waiting for 3 damn years.
 
2:46 PM
why is it shame?
 
@rightfold why you use google translator
 
@AlexM. Alternatively: "Get someone to shout directly into your face every 3 minutes"
works every time
 
@khajvah It is a shame because it will not be launched in near future
 
> Many Indians how browse the net and all (I mean at least 98%) who use stackexchange are comfortable in english.
 
user1804599
@khajvah Not all do and it would be racist sexist discrimination to exclude those who don't.
 
2:47 PM
probably it will take another 2-3 years
 
@buttifulbuttefly How's the pay (asking for a friend)
 
Story time : SE decided to have community managers before launching sites with non-english languages.
 
@MarcoA. lol. 'vi beta'
 
user1804599
2:49 PM
@khajvah I like the broken English in the question.
 
yeah :)
 
I have opened this one, yet no answers:
 
well, you have one vote. I guess it is a start
 
fuck agar.io
 
-1
Q: Announcement change suggestion

Seçkin Savaşçıhttp://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/271998/fluent-in-spanish-were-hiring-a-community-manager-for-a-spanish-stack-overflow According to the link above, SO in Turkish is not launching anytime soon. I'm not here to discuss the decision behind it, even if I found the decision extremely disappoin...

 
2:51 PM
@buttifulbuttefly ikr
 
how can i blockquote?
 
just click on him and then "ignore this user everywhere"
 
@buttifulbuttefly lol didn't see
 
@buttifulbuttefly it's a great game isn't it :P
 
oh that's pretty good
 
Ell
2:54 PM
fuckit I'll just buy a beaglebone black
 
pour un jeune diplômé c'est très bien oui. ça peut monter très vite si tu as de l'expérience. en revanche le coût de la vie est élevé aussi
 
@Ell you wanna learn boring EE?
 
Ell
@khajvah I want to learn not boring EE
 
@buttifulbuttefly plz I live in Paris
 
Ell
actually I'll attempt again with my arduino
I found new datasheets since then
 
2:55 PM
@Ell what for?
 
That's like the worst salary to cost ratio
 
@Mr.kbok everything but rent is cheaper than paris. the rent is much higher though so it kind of offsets that in some ways
 
@buttifulbuttefly wee
 
Ell
@thecoshman I want to make a calculator
 
i mean you can eat in a miichelin-starred restaurant for what, 12 €
i eat out every meal lol
 
2:56 PM
can I buy a fucking boat and live in it
 
@Ell I see...
 
i'm not sure the bay is kinda saturated already :D
 
maybe a regular boat then :)
 
Ell
@thecoshman but currently I'm just trying to hook up a TFT LCD
 
user3790646
this code compiles but the window is not showing up, any help? puu.sh/hUdfY/a6235674f9.txt I know this is not the place to ask but creating a question about this would be crappy
 
2:58 PM
@Mr.kbok lol
 
@AndreyErick you are still trying to do WINAPI stuff
switch to qt
 
@Ell I have a problem with going low level... with most things. I keep thinking it'll be fun to make an low bit count computer with low level components... maybe even transistor low level :\
 
Ell
it's just hard :P
I don't have the desk space to do it
 
user3790646
Some of my projects already use Qt, but I don't think it's the way I'd like it to be
 
Ell
or the tools
 
2:59 PM
oh btw thanks to whoever pinned / starred the announce!
just noticed
 
@buttifulbuttefly I did it expecting you to share some revenue
 
how much would you pay me @Butt
 
@buttifulbuttefly remote or move there? you tell me if you think I'm good enough.
 
not bad
 
There's no good salary for C++
 
3:01 PM
@buttifulbuttefly Is this another pun of yours?
 
@khajvah he's saying you can't pay enough to suffer C++
 
@CatPlusPlus there is, believe me : )
 
@butt I presume you'd rather not have such values public
seeing as you deleted
 
3:02 PM
@thecoshman I was talking to butt
 
user1804599
I don't mind writing C++ for 10000000 USD per day.
 
i don't think i'm supposed to say that
 
Everyone is talking about salaries, here I try to implement my thesis in Java.
 
user1804599
I'd only have to suffer for one day.
 
but who cares
 
user1804599
3:02 PM
And then never work again.
 
BTW, I'm available for offers, I will graduate eventually.
 
How can I test for a port on windows?
 
@rightfold You would actually work for few days.
 
We don't recruit below 10k rep sorry
2
 
lol
 
3:04 PM
Googling only gives shitty "download this tool" answers
 
download nmap I guess
 
Working with C++ is not that bad that 10 billion dollars a day is not worth it.
 
@Mr.kbok install gentoo
 
I'm not going to download nmap to ping a single port
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey yeah probably :P
 
3:05 PM
also that will probably get me fired, too
 
@buttifulbuttefly Here I am. I have a whole 38k+ reputation and a golden badge in C++. Also I'm hardly competent in anything, but that's irrelevant right?
 
@Mr.kbok What's "test for a port"
 
@Mr.kbok then write a programming
 
user784668
ahahahahaha lol btrfs
 
user1804599
@Mr.kbok call connect and check errno.
 
3:06 PM
code* a programming sorry
uh if it's local just use netstat
 
user784668
There's a 475G partition with 131G of data. Btrfs reports 177G of free space.
 
user784668
Because 131+177 = 475
 
not local
I think the port is being blocked from a certain host
 
then code a programming or use a third party tool, there's no such utility by default on wangblows
(telnet maybe)
 
nmap has ncat, which is a better way to do raw TCP/UDP connections than telnet
 
user1804599
3:08 PM
@Mr.kbok if you get fired for installing and using nmap, you want to get fired, since you apparently work for a shitty company.
 
@Fanael math checks out
> help how do i create a cuda
why am i following this tag again
 
user784668
Because you're a cicada
 
what if i identify as a buttefly
 
user1804599
fly butt
 
@rightfold That's 100% dumb
 
3:15 PM
if your network and system are too crippled to let you solve the issue on your own just delegate to the appropriate team
massive loss of time but who cares, it's ~by design~
not being root on a dev machine because reasons is terrible
 
> What to expect in C++ 1
probably another digit
 
user784668
Give me C++21 already
 
I'm root on mine but not on the jenkins server
 
user1804599
I'm root everywhere.
 
I think the oracle db refuses connections from jenkins but I don't know how to check that
 
3:20 PM
sniff the network and check for the tcp buttshake never completing?
 
user1804599
sniff the butthole
 
@AndreyErick If you want to improve your code, improve your code instead of switching to another library that makes writing good code even harder.
 
@buttifulbuttefly That's really impractical
 
well you said you can't install anything on that machine
i'm trying to find solutions for you
vOv
 
vorld Of varcraft
 
3:26 PM
incredible
sqlplus connects
 
user3790646
@milleniumbug Thanks, but I don't like Qt, I like to reinvent the wheel if you know what I mean :D
 
user3790646
I got it to work
 
oh I have a clue
 
user3790646
@Mr.kbok that's scary
 
we need more lenny face in here
and less creepy cartoons
 
3:30 PM
@AndreyErick If the questino would be crappy on SO, why isn't it crappy when asked here?
 
@Mr.kbok SHARE
@jalf Is it a questino from cupertino?
 
@buttifulbuttefly Is there any other kind? :p
 
@buttifulbuttefly "connection refused" actually means "invalid password" in secret shittyprogrammer language
 
lol that's not even on the same layer
 
user784668
Oh noes
 
user784668
3:37 PM
The array is rebuilding
 
The catch is that the password is a hex passphrase
 
user784668
Now one of the disks will fail
 
deadbeefbadcodebi6boob5
 
But you may have to override the passphrase-decoding DLL with your own DLL
 
user784668
Probably the one holding all data
 
3:38 PM
Actually I have to test all possible DLL/passphrase couples because I know the password but you know that's useless
 
> my data are insize a mat file and I wan to transfer them to GPU memory, so I like to use UMat so I can access them easily on GPU.
yeah ok
@Mr.kbok inb4 there's some kind of fail2ban mechanism
 
Additional fun
there are like 5 versions of the software
 
there's this mentally disabled kid streaming CS GO and there are people who join the chat just to make fun of him wtf
what kind of reason would one have for that
 
okay maybe it's the oracle version
 
> mentally disabled kid streaming CS GO
pleonasm
@AlexM. welcome to humanity!
 
3:58 PM
@AlexM. Lack of consequences.
 

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