« first day (1130 days earlier)      last day (3827 days later) » 

4:00 PM
You just described any competitive game.
 
but I'm socially retarded and that's why I'm in Gold 3
@EtiennedeMartel meh, when you have a premade team it's really more about playing well
 
I played with a Gold 3 the other day. Guy played Nid mid. Kept being caught out of position, went alone in areas with no vision, never warded, roamed all game (thus letting the opposing Zed farm), and in the end blamed us, claiming he "can't carry noobs".
 
Xeo
Okay, I don't get that one
 
If Gold 3s are that bad, why am I still in Bronze?
 
2 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@EtiennedeMartel Solo Queue is more about psychology than mechanics :/
 
4:02 PM
Did I tell you about the DST?
 
@Xeo he prolly drugged himself vOv
@EtiennedeMartel about what?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Daylight Saving Time.
 
@EtiennedeMartel is that the guy who made this video about ADCs?
and claimed it's the easiest role "because you have support"?
 
@BartekBanachewicz "Marskmen", yes.
 
4:04 PM
Coworker sees package for me on my desk, emails me if he can open it. (I'm working at home) WHAT???
 
well the video was a piece of fuck (but it was kind of funny)
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion wtf
 
@EtiennedeMartel this term is dumb as heck
 
They were looking for something that did not contain "carry".
Because when you think about it, most roles can carry, not just ADCs.
 
@EtiennedeMartel except no, they can't.
some linear-damage ap mid champions scale well enough
 
4:07 PM
ergh
 
apart from that and Nasus, meh.
 
make a change to the Optional header -> have to recompile practically every fuckin' file.
 
@TonyTheLion He's polite!
 
@BartekBanachewicz Also Veigar.
 
@EtiennedeMartel his cooldowns are too high
also he has no mobility whatsoever
 
4:08 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Its an odd question, I'd never even consider asking someone to open their mail.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Doesn't matter when everyone is dead.
@BartekBanachewicz That's why he needs tank in front of him.
You seem to forget the concept of team. The idea of "carry" is a load of bull because it implies that a team won because of a single person.
 
note to self: if you want it to build faster, pass -j
 
@EtiennedeMartel you seem to forget that counters for high cd APs and resetters are played by teams more or less starting in middle-high gold
lower than that and people just lack personal mechanical skills.
so yeah sure, you can carry with veigar in Silver
but no tank will shield you from a Vi, Malphite or Jarvan.
that's why the "carry" concept exists to signify the champions with either extremely low or no cooldowns (pure ad) that can consistently output enormous damage and have the ability to quickly reposition themselves if needed.
And the common trait shared by those is being much worse in the early game than other champions
 
You've just described "marksman".
What you've said has nothing to do with "carrying the team".
 
@EtiennedeMartel tell me more how Fiora or Master Yi are marksmans
 
4:14 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Fiora is Fighter/Assassin and Yi is Assassin/Fighter
 
@EtiennedeMartel because the tooltip says so or because you really think so?
Both are (can be played as) AD carries.
 
does GCC need a runtime export library attribute, like __declspec(dllexport)?
 
I can play Thresh as an AD "carry".
 
Heck, I've played Fiora on bottom long enough in S2
 
Doesn't mean it's viable.
 
4:15 PM
@EtiennedeMartel no, you can't.
 
or are all symbols exported from shared libraries by default?
 
@EtiennedeMartel that's the point.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Did a pentakill once with it.
 
> once
I've played about 60 games with a melee ADC
 
Hell, there's this guy who made an entire YouTube channel around breaking the meta.
 
4:16 PM
that's why I despise the term "marksman"
there's no "marksman" role. There's the ADC role.
 
There's no carrying. Everyone works together.
 
make it "Attack-Damage Dealer", ADD if you prefer
@EtiennedeMartel it's not that simple
some champions exhibit a property of extreme snowballing given early advantage
however, not all of them keep that power until lategame
now, there's a significant difference of, say, keeping the damage dealer alive compared to keeping a support alive in teamfight
Of course the whole team is working together to win, which doesn't change the fact that once some champions gain power, they are prioritized by both their and enemy team.
Thus, "carrying".
 
@BartekBanachewicz can these people who 'carry the team' do it without the team?
 
JBL
No.
 
@thecoshman nope.
 
4:22 PM
@BartekBanachewicz then they are not carrying the team
They are simply performing most of the damage.
or what ever number it is they are increasing/decreasing
 
@thecoshman read what I wrote above again
 
yes, I did read it, you are wrong. That is not carrying.
 
@BartekBanachewicz They're carried, actually.
 
@thecoshman and you are telling me that based on what exactly?
@EtiennedeMartel ahem.
 
by your logic, the heal 'carry the team' as without healers the team will wipe.
 
4:24 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I mostly play tanky bruisers, usually in the jungle.
 
is it okei to ask yes/no questions on stackeoverflow
 
@BartekBanachewicz knowing what it means to 'carry some one in a team'
 
@thecoshman and you know that from where?
 
@EwokNightmares yes
 
@EtiennedeMartel what has that to do with anything?
I play all roles.
 
4:24 PM
And no amount of snowballing is gonna prevent a fed Vayne from getting insta melted by an incoming Fizz or Zed with designs on her proud nipples.
 
@BartekBanachewicz just shy of 25 years of speaking, reading, writting, listening, living English natively
 
@EtiennedeMartel have you watched some matches from World's Finals?
@thecoshman ahem. LoL hasn't been there for 25 years.
 
So. What I'm saying is: the word "carry" is wrong, because its real world meaning has nothing to do with what it has evolved to mean in the context of League.
Just like marskman.
 
still, marksman is more wrong than carry
all I'm saying.
 
That's bullshit. You can't have your cake and eat it.
 
4:26 PM
Well also it dates way back before you started playing
Because when I started playing, carries were carries
 
i play hon
 
Are you saying that terminology should never change even if they no longer describe what happens?
Yes, what I'm saying is tradition can go fuck itself.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Terminology evolves too
@EtiennedeMartel what I'm saying that bullshit classification invented by riot is not changing a thing there
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel new blogpost topic?
 
@Xeo Could be. I would need to gather more intel though.
@BartekBanachewicz Your point seems to be "it's new so it sucks".
 
4:30 PM
anyway, what we should be talking about is S4
 
My two most common roles are jungle and support. So I'm quite happy with S4.
 
because the changes to vision are way more important than those stupid "adc is a wrong term" discussions
 
@BartekBanachewicz You brought the "stupid discussion" up.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I am kind of scared about the ap -> slow/speedup ratios
 
@BartekBanachewicz Lulu is going to be viable mid now!
Woop woop.
 
4:31 PM
@EtiennedeMartel meh. I merely said I consider "marksman" totally and utterly wrong
 
@BartekBanachewicz Because it's new. Face it, it's your resistance to change.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't think so. People tried playing her mid a while ago, but it boils down to mechanics again, I'm afraid
 
@BartekBanachewicz I mostly play her top. People are all like "omg troll", then I end up fucking everyone up and I'm like "what did we learn?"
 
@EtiennedeMartel No, because it's completely useless.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Just insert a typedef marksman adc somewhere and you're set.
No need to get your knickers in a twist over that.
 
4:32 PM
@EtiennedeMartel it's not correct.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Alright, Mr. Pope.
 
there's no "marksman and support" on bot lane
 
Indeed, I've seen pros send their bruiser on bot lane.
 
@EtiennedeMartel that's a called a lane swap
doesn't change a thing about the meta
 
The meta that's set in stone.
Went Taric top recently. Worked pretty well. Dat burst.
 
4:34 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Tell me more how it's not used then
@EtiennedeMartel And what has that one match to do with anything? Nevermind the fact that Taric is normally played top.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It has to do with the fact that I'm having fun.
Also, AD Malzahar is the lulz.
 
@EtiennedeMartel um and we've come to this from the meta how again?
@EtiennedeMartel doesn't work.
 
@BartekBanachewicz 1 for 1 in my case. That's a 100% win rate.
 
it sounds like ad malz might work, but it doesn't.
@EtiennedeMartel that's an impressive statistical data you've gathered
 
You seem to think that we play LoL for the same reasons.
 
4:37 PM
What has reasoning to do with anything?
I thought we were discussing game, not psychology
 
It's part of the game.
 
s/game/mechanics/
 
You were talking about the meta itself. I'm saying fucked up matchups exist, and can work in some circumstances.
 
hmm
 
@EtiennedeMartel of course they can. So what?
 
4:38 PM
how can I convince LD to tell me why two libraries are incompatible?
 
I'm saying you don't need a "marksman + support" bot lane.
(See what I did there?)
 
of course you don't
 
it thinks that my build of Wide is incompatible with libstdc++ and my LLVM/Clang build.
 
but you play adc + support most of the time because it's the most effective way to play
 
Indeed, that's why the meta is shaped that way.
 
4:39 PM
anyway, you've asked me why you're still in bronze
 
But I don't care about that. Incidentally, I'm gonna do some Pantheon jungle tonight.
 
I think you kind of answered yourself already
 
Meh, leagues.
Normals with friends is where the fun is at.
 
"meh playing the game better"
@EtiennedeMartel indeed, that's what people that lack skill or determination to obtain one say
I mean, I'm all for social ARAMs and stuff
I like playing them too
 
I used to platinum at SC2. I don't care about competitiveness anymore.
Now I just want to unwind after work.
 
4:41 PM
that's why normal and ranked are two different games
 
@BartekBanachewicz Because everybody, always, wants to play in the most competitive fashion possible, right?
 
and I've said that already
 
And that's why I said we're not playing for the same reasons.
 
@DeadMG well, no, of course not.
 
then how does your statement make any sense?
 
4:41 PM
@EtiennedeMartel we're not even playing the same game.
 
I'm having fun. You're getting pissed about words.
 
I'm having fun too.
As if people playing "the other game" couldn't have fun :/
 
What is the topic here?
 
> Together we can achieve averageness.
 
League of Legends
 
4:42 PM
That too.
 
also Puppy Hates Linux.
 
PHLâ„¢.
 
Hrm.
Anybody use a VM here?
 
Ell
@DeadMG howc ome? o.O
did I miss a rant? :P
 
eh, everything is just a colossal amount of dicking around
 
4:44 PM
also that's suckage :(
 
@BartekBanachewicz Is that a beer tank?
 
oh, the compiler doesn't come with libstdc++, oh, the libstdc++ package didn't come with 32bit libs, and you have to install five different packages of libs before the goddamn Standard Library works correctly.
 
Although it looks more like piss.
 
@EtiennedeMartel that's my pseudo-MMR graph
 
Ell
@DeadMG Do you want help with anything?
 
4:45 PM
oh, Bash can't find the file ls can find right there.
 
You should go Lulu jungle.
 
3 promotion series lost in a row
 
Free ELO.
 
:F
@EtiennedeMartel ... for the opponents :)
 
Ell
@DeadMG is this a newly installed system?
 
4:45 PM
@DeadMG Did I mention Ubuntu sucks?
 
YouTube has a serious problem.
 
Also, runes are so fucking expensive holy shit.
 
@Ell Right now, I'm trying to coerce ld into explaining why the LLVM libs I built are not compatible with the Wide object files I built.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I only keep 3 sets and I don't feel I need more
 
4:46 PM
The thumbs up icon is off by one pixel :<
 
STOP
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THINGS OFF BY ONE PIXEL ANYMORE.
 
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Calm down. Everything will be fine.
 
I've spent the day debugging with a freaking image viewer zoomed in to all hell because our kerning is off.
 
Close your eyes, take a deep breath, and think about your Happy Place.
 
4:47 PM
Also there's still a bug that makes my platinum border visible in Solo Q
 
Ah, that is the worse, I hate those :\
 
and then people rant like "OMG platinum and he sucks so much"
"only 3/0/3"
 
First world problem.
 
@EtiennedeMartel they were supposed to fix that
 
They only have 400 employees. Cut them some slack.
 
4:48 PM
I won't until people start cutting some slack to Intel GPUs :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz haha, you suck.
@BartekBanachewicz haha, they suck.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was only Gold in Solo 5v5
 
JBL
Not 'nuff DotA here.
 
haha, DotA sucks
@JBL better?
 
haha, you suck ;_;
 
4:49 PM
I made a chicken sandwich, but when I got round to eating it, it was one pixel too tall.
5
 
JBL
@BartekBanachewicz Yes :) (Disagree, but yes !)
@MartinJames And now you're overfed by one pixel ?
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I think they are good
 
You know what annoys me the most? Deep down I kinda enjoyed spending the past days at work debugging one-pixel-off issues with the text.
 
JBL
Accept your true nature.
 
4:50 PM
"you need to get out more"
 
@JBL I threw the extra pixel to the dog.
It was a bit thin, and only bread, but he ate it anyway.
 
ok
maybe LLVM built as 64bit by default.
 
Also I need to squeeze my Monads presentation in 10 minutes
gonna be fun.
 
JBL
@MartinJames You downsized the resolution of your sandwich by generosity !
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Where everything is off by one pixel. [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [no-gotchas] [no-questions] [no-tricks]
 
JBL
4:53 PM
But that's nitpicking.
 
@BartekBanachewicz "Monads are like burritos. I like burritos with chicken, but other burritos can also be tasty." and then you spend the other 9 minutes and 52 seconds eating a nice tasty burrito.
 
Ell
@DeadMG what did you compile wide with on linux?
 
g++ 4.7.2
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes aw yiss
 
Ell
@DeadMG is the new code pushed?
ah food time, back soon
 
4:54 PM
I am certainly going to use the word "burrito" at least twice
 
Ell
if new code is pushed I'll pull and compile
 
no, I just finished fixing it up and a couple of the changes are gonna break Windows.
and also, I haven't gotten to the whole, " Mysterious undefined reference" thing yet.
 
okey, time to head on for the bus
 
@BartekBanachewicz Make sure the smell fills the room.
 
whew
saved from horrible bug by override.
7
 

« first day (1130 days earlier)      last day (3827 days later) »