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3:00 PM
to hopefully move all my hobby projects to Haskell by the end of Q1'2014
 
@User17 so, you just want something like Levenshtein distance? what would be special about the strings being names then?
 
Man, having to fool the GLSL compiler so it doesn't kill attributes when I'm debugging a shader is annoying.
@Bartek any tricks?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes
 
@Xeo Sorry, I haven't used the existing lens packages much.
 
Xeo
:(
 
3:01 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes well phony output should work, no?
 
@BartoszKP my problem is this: I am getting results from a couple of different sources. I want to be able to merge them so the same results don't appear twice
 
Debugging shaders is a major PITA anyway... are you using some tool for that?
@User17 set union.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, but phony output kills some attributes. I need to add some slightly convoluted ways to compute zeros using those attributes so that the final phony output depends on those attributes.
The damn optimiser is quite smart.
@BartekBanachewicz I know of some tools, but none of that really helps when you need to inspect values mid-shader execution.
 
@User17 yes, that's clear that you want to match people who have the same name spelled differently. I was arguing that there is nothing special about these strings being names - you can just use Levenstein distance. Perhaps - one thing - you can compare name and lastname separately and give different weights to the comparison results
 
I use the tried and true technique of printf-debugging by writing magical frag colors.
 
3:04 PM
Levenshtein finally got the correct pronunciation ;0
 
@BartekBanachewicz Any suggestions?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think good frame debuggers should be able to do that
 
@BartekBanachewicz Like?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think newest NSight
 
I am asking for code sample on which I could modify .. coz I am lazy :D
 
3:05 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Hmm, no Linux, right?
Eclipse :(
 
> Download Nsight Eclipse Edition
> Support OpenGL 4.2 for frame debugging
 
hmm
 
nevermind I will work on it when I wake up tomorrow ... 99
 
I have an executable file in my folder, and I definitely did remember to set permissions, but Bash still won't find it, wankers.
 
3:08 PM
@DeadMG What does "my folder" mean?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes if that's not top GL, I think glslDevil worked for me too
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The folder which I am currently in with Bash.
 
I rember using it once or twice very vaguely
 
If you mean the current folder, current folder is not in the PATH by default (security shit).
Prefix it with ./
Like ./my_executable
 
I tried that, but Bash still won't accept it.
 
3:08 PM
What's the error?
 
no file found.
 
Sounds like you made a typo.
 
puppy@ubuntu:~/Wide/wide$ ./premake4 --boost-dir=~/Boost/ --llvm-dir=~/LLVM/ gmake
bash: ./premake4: No such file or directory
puppy@ubuntu:~/Wide/wide$ ls
cloccommand.txt premake4 premake4.lua todo.txt Wide
puppy@ubuntu:~/Wide/wide$
 
@User17 in the link I've provided you have a code sample, also consider addressing your messages directly - it was hard to track your replies through the jungle of other conversations : )
 
@DeadMG Hmm, that's weird. Can you ls -l?
 
3:10 PM
are you sure premake should be run like that?
 
yeah, I've run premake a few times, you know.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Clearly shows executable permissions
-rwxrwxrwx 1 puppy puppy 274608 Nov 16 2010 premake4
 
Oh well. Something's borked.
Really badly borked.
 
I hate Linux so much.
 
meh, you fucked up something
and you're blaming the OS
 
@DeadMG Does it work if you rename it?
 
3:12 PM
all I did was download the file, copy it, and place it in the folder (and set the permission).
it's hard for me to break the entire system by copying a single file.
 
@DeadMG is it a x64 binary on x86 distro?
 
@BartekBanachewicz That would cause a different error.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nope.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes are you 100% sure? (I am not)
 
@DeadMG What does file premake4 say?
 
3:14 PM
no such file or directory.
 
@DeadMG $ /home/puppy/Wide/wide/premake4 ?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Barring bugs, yes.
 
oh, ahem.
I renamed it so of course it doesn't exist.
 
3:14 PM
lolmake: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped
 
zch
ldd premake4
 
let's just rename that back now before things get confusing.
 
That's fucked up.
 
what, that Bash won't execute it?
 
zch
to check if you lack some libs
 
3:16 PM
if I lack libs, it would fail to execute, not fail to find the thing in the first place.
 
hehe someone replaced that with echo "No such file or directory"
 
zch
But error is the same I think
 
Does the full path work?
 
zch
(possibly)
 
3:17 PM
@zch But complaining about a different file. And coming from the loader, not from bash.
 
nope, same outcome- no such file.
 
@DeadMG Does tab-completion complete that file's name?
 
no.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sure, why not
 
3:18 PM
so it's there but it's not there
 
some programs think it's there, others think it's not there.
 
Xeo
you fucked up royally
 
... could it be an issue with symbolic links?
 
lol "so it's there but it's not there" vs "some programs think it's there, others think it's not there." -- philosophy vs. practice
 
seriously all I did is copy it from downloads folder and set executable permissions.
 
3:20 PM
maybe some applications are refusing to look at links...
 
it's not a link
hurp.
cp it to home and try running there
try sudo running it
 
sudo doesn't want it either.
 
Sorry, I really don't know what could cause this. It's... hard to believe (not that I doubt you, but it's really messed up)
 
zch
btw, why don't you use packaged premake?
 
3:22 PM
@zch Too old
 
package premake is only premake3 and I'm using premake4.
 
@DeadMG Does apt-get install premake4 work?
(I have that, but I might be using a PPA)
 
yeah, I found some external packages purporting to offer premake4 package
let me just figure out how I'm supposed to register those external source thingies again...
 
o_0 code coverage report is some how finding a second function in a class that is not being unit tested...
 
@thecoshman that's the point of it, no?
 
3:25 PM
there are no other functions in that class...
 
unless it means the constructor... but it's an abstract class... so erm... yeah...
 
@DeadMG apt-add-repository ppa:codegear/release is what I have.
 
yeah, and then sudo apt-get update on top.
 
It has builds from this month.
 
3:27 PM
aright, that worked.
 
@thecoshman Ha, either broken tool, or normal Java braindeadness.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes or?
 
Ooh, Herb answers on SO.
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A: Is there a way to use standalone `std::begin` and for a const_iterator?

Herb SutterC++14 has cbegin/cend/etc. and it is starting to be available in major compilers.

 
argh.
 
Precisely 6 answers to date
 
3:29 PM
try to build Wide -> missing include from a stdlib header.
 
zch
Not his best answer.
 
Xeo
ASDASOFD I don't get how traverse and co. are supposed to work
 
@DeadMG What include?
 
bits/predefs.h
sorry for the delay, SO randomly decided to kick me out for a minute
 
Argh, that sounds like the usual Ubuntu silliness.
 
3:33 PM
uh oh.
 
Dev stuff is spread all over a bunch of packages.
 
hmm
 
libstdc++?
 
4.7.2
I pulled the g++ package so that should have come with libstdc++, no?
 
I meant the package.
 
3:34 PM
oh
 
Actually, that would be libstdc++-dev.
@DeadMG Wouldn't be the first time that installing a compiler on Ubuntu turned out to be useless because said compiler could not compile a hello world.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes if it's really him.
 
well, I tried libstdc++ and libstdc++dev and Ubuntu said I already had the newest version available- 4.7.2
 
53
A: C++ alignment when printing cout <<

Herb SutterThe ISO C++ standard way to do it is to #include <iomanip> and use io manipulators like std::setw. However, that said, those io manipulators are a real pain to use even for text, and are just about unusable for formatting numbers (I assume you want your dollar amounts to line up on the decimal, h...

 
¬_¬ fuck sake Java pisses me off
 
3:36 PM
this one ins another Herb Sutter
 
yes, we get it, Herb has a user account, just to link that already and fuck off with ya
 
@ArneMertz He has trouble with accounts.
 
would the real Herb Sutter please stand up
 
We could email Herb and ask him what his current account is.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I doubt that. The older account still posted after the newer one was created.
 
I must have libstdc++ else <functional> wouldn't exist.
 
Apparently the Eclipse edition really really really looks like Visual Studio.
 
or we you could all stop sucking Herb Sutter's cock ¬_¬
 
@ArneMertz Could just be logged in in two different machines with different OpenIDs.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That is VS, at least as far as I can tell.
 
3:40 PM
@DeadMG I know. Sarcasm and stuff.
 
Gawd! I am starting to hate this Java/Spring crap. I have not been able to set up a testing environment for like 2 weeks.
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@R.MartinhoFernandes tadaa
 
orite.
 
@DeadMG The joke flew so high above your head it might as well be Superman.
 
@wilx ¬_¬ I feel ya bro
 
3:44 PM
Premake sucks.
It has no way to add custom build actions.
 
zch
Is there any *make that doesn't suck?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes commands key should work
 
JBL
@zch SCons.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You can specify post build actions. But they're inherently platform-specific, IIRC.
 
@DeadMG But I want pre-build :( With dependencies and shit.
 
3:47 PM
there should be prebuild, prelink, and postbuild, or something like that.
 
@DeadMG But no dependency tracking for prebuild things, right?
It just blindly executes them.
 
right
it's just a command-line that premake executes.
 
Yeah, that doesn't cut it :(
 
so you would have to invoke something that does dependency tracking
 
lol, I've found this in my .emacs:
(defun butterfly ()
"M-x butterfly"
(interactive)
(insert " / `._ _.' \\\n")
(insert " ( @ : `. .' : @ )\n")
(insert " \ `. `. ._ _. .' .' /\n")
(insert " \;' `. `. \\ / .' .' `;/\n")
(insert " \`. `. \\ \\_/ / .' .'/\n")
(insert " ) :-._`. \\ (:) / .'_.-: (\n")
(insert " (`.....,`.\\/:\\/.',.....')\n")
(insert " >------._|:::|_.------<\n")
(insert " / .'._>_.-|:::|-._<_.'. \\\n")
 
3:48 PM
Yes, this shit exists.
 
@BartoszKP Is that supposed to be an alien smiley face?
 
@EtiennedeMartel awww
 
@GamesBrainiac no :) the name says it - it renders an ASCII butterfly : ), read the comic I've linked at the bottom
 
zch
Should be named monopony, I think.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Incidentally, both My Little Pony and Monopoly are owned by Hasbro.
 
Xeo
3:50 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Monopony?
 
@zch lol :D
 
-I../../~/LLVM/include
that's strange.
 
@Xeo They prefered keeping the brand intact rather than doing a pun.
 
Xeo
@BartoszKP lolz
 
Such a waste.
 
3:51 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Not Monopunny then..
@DeadMG lolzors. I didn't even know that was allowed.
 
I don't know it either.
 
Oh it isn't.
 
GCC doesn't reject that path but I have no idea if it functions.
 
It doesn't.
 
that would explain the whole "Missing include" thing
 
Xeo
3:53 PM
Puppy's Adventures in Oz Linux
 
@BartoszKP not related at all :s
 
Xeo
@A.H. uh, what
 
ASCII butterfly and xkcd 'real programmers'
 
Xeo
very related
> defun butterfly ()
"M-x butterfly"
now read the comic again
 
hmm I have 16.4k on Tribunal and that's still unranked
 
3:55 PM
yeah but the comic wasn't about draw a butterfly !
 
I wonder how you can get ranked on the Tribunal.
 
Xeo
sigh
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@EtiennedeMartel in june this year 36k was ~400th
top 1000 is ranked
 
I like how they gamified moderation, though.
 
@A.H. it is about M-x butterfly and this is that command. Maybe you think that it only draws a butterfly, but under the hood it does what it says in the comic. really.
 
3:56 PM
@EtiennedeMartel before that you got IP for tribunal :P
 
Well, well.
 
ok related
 
Speaking of the Tribunal, did you know about this?
 
I fucked up two cases recently :/ and dropped to 94.6%
@EtiennedeMartel lol, not that one in particular
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's hilarious.
 
3:58 PM
@EtiennedeMartel sure is
 
The other day I met a guy who instalocked top despite not calling his lane first.
 
Vayne [51:24]: dont let them focus me
Wukong [51:55]: ok
Wukong [All][52:01]: DONT FOCUS VAYNE
 
I was jungle, so I decided to never gank top.
We ended up losing because of that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Solo Queue is more about psychology than mechanics :/
 

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