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7:06 PM
lol so the app does is you select a list of products you want to purchase that have discounts/offers in the app, then you go to the store, purchase them, then you upload the receipt and make sure the offers are selected. then you submit your receipt
It gets sent to a matching algorithm to make sure the product you bought matches the offer
and then if it does, you get paid back via paypal
Nothing to do with Ads
we don't have ads I believe
we make money off the companies that make the offers for their products
and yes we do collect extra data off the receipt like other products you bought, so we can contact those manufacturers if they're not on our list and see if they want to provide offers
etc
 
So it's like a digital version of the "here's a flyer of everything that's on sale today" in the grocery store? Why don't they just put the items on sale? Or are these discounts coming straight from the manufacturer?
 
They're coming straight from the manufacturer
 
Ah, that makes more sense.
 
We are still working on whether if we want to customize the offers like provide some customers more discounts if they spend a certain amount or not... idk I'm still new here
 
my personal opinion is that people do too much effort and recieve too little (to what the expect)
 
7:12 PM
Well I guess it depends
 
Well first thing is that I would explain what the app does on the website. Since none of us were able to figure it out.
 
I am just trying to understand the downvotes
 
idk, we're still expanding this but apparently our other app works better? BevRage (discounts on liquor)
 
"BevRage" I fucking love it
 
7:13 PM
The MobiSave logo also looks suspiciously like the twitter fail whale.
 
LOL Mike is that where I thought I saw it before?
 
look at the earning potential
 
Quite possibly.
 
7:16 PM
@KalaJ - You should offer venmo as an option for payment.
 
along with paypal?
 
yes
@KalaJ - You should also contact Fry's Electronics because that app would work very well with their current rebate structure.
 
"You"
 
Okay, I'll take a look at the api and what's involved
 
@misha130 - "Yes"
 
7:17 PM
yeah haha, I'll have to ask the lead devs and whoevers in charge of that here
or I can do it :P
 
@KalaJ - Technically venmo is owned by ebay who owns paypal so it shouldn't be too much of an issue.
 
You just got hired, can't pitch anything
 
Why Fry's?
 
user47589
Why not Zoidberg?
 
@misha130 - A plain, and quite frankly boring outlook on things.
 
7:19 PM
what I don't understand is I don't know why they don't deduct the discount while scanning the item
 
user47589
o/ @TravisJ
 
woah sorry, I am just being a negative nancy
 
but maybe it takes too long and you hold ppl up in line? idk
 
can't help it
 
@Amy (\/);,,;(\/)
 
7:19 PM
@KalaJ - They do mail in rebates all the time. A lot of money goes through there, and they are a very large retailer. If you could manage to take over their mail in rebate with your app, ("you") that would be a big boost to its bottom line in my opinion.
@Amy heeyyyy
 
oh I see
I'll bring up mail in rebates
We can get other tech manufacturers
like acer and asus or something
 
Yeah, I suppose that is the larger market. If you were to approach the mail in rebate market with the app that seems like it would be very successful.
 
user47589
i hate mail-in rebates
 
user47589
They make me waste a stamp.
 
yeah they do lol and it takes a while
 
7:21 PM
yeah I dislike them too
 
also I have to go out and mail it
It's out of my way if there's no mailbox near me lol
 
user47589
they should just make the rebate at the register, and leave it at that.
 
Sometimes they do, but they call that an "instant rebate" and also the reason the mail in rebate is so popular with them is because so many people don't actually do it.
 
user47589
yeah
 
@TravisJ what's the point of that? I don't get it. We advertise something for $9, but you actually have to pay us $10, but we'll immediately give you $1 back
Is that it? What's the point?
Rebates aren't really done over here. I've seen mail-in ones once or twice
I understand that; people don't do them
free money
 
7:25 PM
They aren't super common here, but they are for certain sales.
 
@TomW - I think the point is to be competitive. They advertise something at a very low price "with mail in rebate", and without the rebate it is inline with competition. So basically the idea is the mail in rebate will draw in more customers to purchase, and that some percent of them will actually not mail the rebate back thus getting free business on some level.
 
Yes, I understand that. What about the instant rebate?
Do you have to ask for it?
 
user47589
no, its taken at the register.
 
You don't have to ask for it. It is just a clever way of saying discount.
 
user47589
7:27 PM
the sales receipt typically shows the original non-sale price, and then the instant rebate below it
 
^
 
Amy is right (as usual)
 
@KendallFrey glad that I checked the url before I clicked on that
 
But if everybody completes the rebate, where's the advantage to the business?
 
7:29 PM
@TomW that's the thing. Not everybody completes the rebate
 
Jesus we're going around in circles
 
user47589
that video is amusing
 
Hell I just recently found a receipt for...something, some sort of computer hardware that had a rebate from months ago.
Never sent it in.
 
If it's done AT THE REGISTER, which you have to be at in order to pay, and you can't leave without paying, everybody does it and the missed rebate rate is 0
 
7:31 PM
@TomW but they want you to miss the rebate!
 
:29137154I I know! But if it's done at the register that never happens, does it?
 
The rebate that I forgot about was like $20 back from a $400 item. I was more interested in installing that hardware than filling out the rebate for and then totally forgot about it.
 
user47589
you're going around in circles. stop it.
 
Boom. $20 Gigabyte got to keep.
 
JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION FFGSDFSDFDS
 
7:33 PM
What is the question anyway?
 
user47589
No user FFGSDFSDFDS is in this room.
 
@TomW 42
 
@TomW - The issue isn't instant rebates though, it is mail in rebates. Instant rebates just set the stage to be comfortable with mail in rebates.
 
user47589
No, that's the answer.
 
7:33 PM
@mikeTheLiar when there is an instant rebate offer, which I assume means everyone always completes it, what is the advantage to the business offering it?
 
An "instant rebate" is just a sale. That's it.
 
@TravisJ RIGHT. So it's JUST a behavioural tool to get people to accept the notion of rebates in general
 
user47589
instant rebates are just a temporary reduction in price.
 
user47589
that's all
 
The rebate is deducted directly from the cost of the item.
No forms. No mail-ins. No waiting.
 
7:34 PM
@TomW - Yes
 
@TravisJ Thank you! Hallelujah
 
user47589
I think it affects how the store does their accounting. So its not really the same as just dropping the price of the item.
 
You're welcome, I will be here all day and then I will go home and probably end up with some Herradura.
 
@Amy I suspected there would be some BS legal fiction behind it somewhere
 
user47589
i think so
 
user47589
7:37 PM
in the US, "sales" have lasted longer and longer each year. some stores never stop having a sale.
 
@KendallFrey thanks for the weirdly-specific img response btw
 
who doesn't love jesus going in circles
 
user47589
i don't.
 
@Amy there's a sports chain here that is in perpetual sale such that it runs out the legal maximum that it's allowed to say 'sale', to the day, then moves the store to a different premises
 
@Amy - Yeah, and some places constantly even have "GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE". The idea of presenting a price as for a limited time even when it isn't is very popular.
 
7:39 PM
@Amy what about Jesús?
 
user47589
I don't believe Jesus went around in circles. I'm of the belief he moved in ellipses.
 
Sports Direct. One of a number of very shady practices of theirs, the owner is a complete scumbag
 
@Amy but was he a particle or a wave?
 
The whole idea of using mass media to target an audience is founded on the principle of using trickery in order to be convincing.
 
user47589
@mikeTheLiar yes.
 
7:40 PM
@Amy he was a particle crossing atop waves
Is appears that Jesus was really hard to nail down.
 
Waves are made of particles.
 
From a physics standpoint
 
@mikeTheLiar ba dum tish
 
user47589
The earliest forms of advertising were "we have logs in stock". they weren't trying to convince you that you needed a log, or you would be happy with a log. just "we have logs"
 
@TravisJ particles are made of waves
waves are made of strings? maybe
 
7:41 PM
woohoo circles!
 
@Amy these days you just declare that you need ILog and the dependency is resolved for you
 
@Amy were they full of exceptions?
 
some strings are circles
 
Hopefully with timestamps and stack traces
 
user47589
I don't think the stack trace was invented until much later.
 
user47589
7:42 PM
back then they had stock traces.
 
Why wouldn't that place have had logs in stock though? That is all they sold. If they had no logs, the place would be shut down anyway. Placing a banner that says "we have logs in stock" is a subtle suggestion that you need logs.
 
I dunno, I've traced stacks.
 
@TravisJ back in the days before unfettered American imperialism there were things called 'shortages'
 
user47589
PBS Space Time had an excellent video on the nature of waves/particles.
 
user47589
I <3 that channel.
 
7:43 PM
 
"We have logs! So do you. We're in a forest. Come buy some logs! Or just cut down a tree yourself!" Early advertising was not very refined.
 
@TomW - You mean in the good ol British imperialism days? :P
 
I'm of the view that particles don't exist, they're just an illusion caused by the observer
 
Google image search of "stack trace" resulted in that gem.
 
7:44 PM
Seriously though I imagine back in the day, the logging business was such that your crew might be back in a day, or in a week
Or all be eaten by bears
 
@KendallFrey - Particles can kind of be anything, so if they didn't exist, nothing would exist.
 
uh how so
 
Pretty much exactly what I said.
 
the existence of non-particles is not predicated on the existence of particles
 
Anyone here read Concurrency in C# Cookbook?
 
7:45 PM
"Particle" is just a vague description of something with mass.
 
I think I'm going to buy it
 
@TravisJ err, not really
 
@TravisJ hell no
 
That is to say, no.
 
I have good particles. I mean my particles - I have the best particles
 
7:46 PM
You can qualify a particle with a prefix.
 
user47589
@mikeTheLiar great meme
 
But that is similar to using the word "object". Which could basically be interchangeable in many contexts.
 
What if I were to say that I don't believe objects exist?
 
Then you would be saying that you do not believe the physical world exists.
 
@Amy my memes are yuuuge. Look at the size of these memes.
 
user47589
7:47 PM
then i would call you names.
 
user47589
you don't want me calling you names.
 
@TravisJ sure
 
@Names doesn't feel real good, does it?
 
user47589
lol
 
now i want to see @Names coming and yelling stop pinging me
 
user47589
stop pinging @names, guys
 
I think I just got immanuel kant'd
 
user47589
oh god
 
Figures
 
7:50 PM
shit
 
A Canadian Java developer
 
Everything is thought based and there is nothing at all you argue while typing on a physical keyboard to make your point - hurriedly attempting to get past the previously proven point that a particle is a vague descriptor.
 
user47589
He only has 16 rep. He can be saved.
 
Is he even allowed in chat?
 
Yes.
 
user47589
7:51 PM
I thought C# chat required 20 rep?
 
He just cannot talk.
 
^
 
user47589
ah
 
Ah, well.
 
:)
 
7:51 PM
Mr Names, please don't be alarmed. We'd just like to ask you a few questions.
 
user47589
there was that guy two weeks ago who downvoted someone's questions just to boot him out of chat.
 
So now we are calling him formal Names?
 
I expect that tactic was why kick-mute was introduced
 
I have no chat privileges and I must Scream
 
needs more caps
 
7:52 PM
wat? one cap is not enough for you?
 
I honestly think that privileges haven't scaled at all with reputation inflation.
 
!!needs more caps
 
@tweray That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: bees, nerd
 
user47589
caps are capped to: 2
 
BEES, NERD!
2
 
7:53 PM
@tweray - Always need more hats.
 
user5981182
PENINIS
 
Question is, is there anything under the hats?
 
7:54 PM
Only more hats.
 
user47589
pants.
 
guys this is stupid question but I want to add data validation attributes to the models but VS won't let me edit the model class
 
user47589
sets the banhammer out on the table
 
@KalaJ what, it just ignores keyboard input or?
 
user47589
7:55 PM
starts polishing it
 
yeah ignores keyboard input
figured it out
nevermind lol
 
@Amy the noun or the verb?
 
keyboard (non laptop one) was not connected... #fridayfail lol
 
ahaha
oh dear
 
@KalaJ that's the best thing I've heard all day
Bless 'er heart
 
7:57 PM
that was some typical technical troubleshooting
 
lol guys I have no comment
thisn never happened
 
@mikeTheLiar no pls
 
this is a real friday chat
 

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